From hans at cyberxdesigns.com Fri Aug 1 16:47:26 2008 From: hans at cyberxdesigns.com (Hans Kaspersetz) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:47:26 -0500 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] iPhone Development Message-ID: <4893765E.9020503@cyberxdesigns.com> I am a partner in a small company and we are looking for an iPhone developer. We have been in business for 8 years. We have an existing application for Windows, Palm and Windows Mobile and would like to port it over to iPhone. We are looking for someone to do the initial development and then support the application. All work would be remote. If you are interested in bidding on the job or know someone who would be interested email me directly at: hans at cyberxdesigns.com. Hans Kaspersetz http://www.cyberxdesigns.com From ivan at upcompany.com Tue Aug 5 15:52:48 2008 From: ivan at upcompany.com (Ivan Gevirtz) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:52:48 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] UpCompany Jobs Message-ID: <9b5ca76f0808051252p3033eb91v5e03e8ca09e563fc@mail.gmail.com> I am building an extremely talented team and am looking for people that might be a great addition to our team. I have posted some sample job descriptions on my blog: http://www.ivanism.com/Articles/WereHiring.html Specificially, I suspect some of the Nyphp folks may be interested in the "Web Data Architect" position. UpCompany is an ambitious, early stage startup with a talented and deeply experienced team of successful individuals. We are building an extremely data driven website, in a multi-billion dollar marketplace. Sincerely, Ivan -- Ivan Gevirtz CTO UpCompany.com From fred.segro at scivantage.com Tue Aug 5 15:56:26 2008 From: fred.segro at scivantage.com (Fred Segro) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:56:26 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Post a new job Message-ID: Hi I would like to post this the attached job posting. Please let me know what I need to do next. Thanks fred segro sr director, resident consulting services scivantage 172 broadway, 1st floor woodcliff lake, new jersey 07677 646 435 4910 direct 646 825 9770 fax fred.segro at scivantage.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: SciVantage_FE Developer.doc Type: application/msword Size: 67584 bytes Desc: SciVantage_FE Developer.doc URL: From gary066 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 6 11:30:56 2008 From: gary066 at yahoo.com (gary066 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [nycphp-jobs] J2EE and Java Teamsite developers In-Reply-To: <9b5ca76f0808051252p3033eb91v5e03e8ca09e563fc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <636345.25145.qm@web32701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> A successful and cutting edge media company is seeking J2EE developers for an array of online magazines. The biggest need is in the Content Management group, where experience with Teamsite would be a big plus. This group builds applications that support all aspects of bringing dynamic content to all our online sites. There are other J2EE roles to work on the server side of the online sites. The technology is cutting edge. A typical skill set is J2EE, Spring, Hiberate, ad delivery technology, CMS. Building new features that can handle millions of users. The working environment is cutting edge and what you would expect of a magazine. Not your typical boring computer cubes by any means. The design and technical teams are top notch, you will be working with smart people. I know, I used to be a Java consultant there myself. Please send your resumes if interested. Gary From daniel at reflexionsdata.com Wed Aug 6 16:02:04 2008 From: daniel at reflexionsdata.com (Daniel Leslie) Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:02:04 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] PHP Developer at small, fun web shop in Westchester Message-ID: <08EE0CF3-FB95-41A2-92B2-0FBCE19CE800@reflexionsdata.com> Hi everyone, Reflexions Data is a small group of folks who design, architect, and build web applications for clients in a wide range of industries, from internet startups to Fortune 500 companies. You can learn more about us here: http://www.reflexionsdata.com/ We're seeking applicants for a full time PHP Developer position at our White Plains, NY office. Candidates should have experience with the following: * PHP v5.x with knowledge of OOP principles * PHP-based development frameworks * SQL-based database engines such as MySQL or PostGREsql * Query optimization and database normalization principles * XHTML/CSS * Javascript and AJAX A bachelors degree in computer science or a related field is preferred but not required. You'll be exposed to a variety of client and internal projects and will play a key role in building high performance web applications using the latest development tools. This is a great mid-level position for someone with 1-3 years experience. To apply for this position please fill out our employment application form here: http://www.reflexionsdata.com/company/employment Thanks very much, Dan Leslie -- Partner / Director of Business Development r e f l e x i o n s d a t a business solutions for the web http://www.reflexionsdata.com/ From bmccaffrey at Hyattleader.com Wed Aug 6 17:53:39 2008 From: bmccaffrey at Hyattleader.com (Brian McCaffrey) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 17:53:39 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Contract PHP Opportunity Message-ID: PHP 5, Zend Framework, Drupal CMS. Major Web Property. Location: North NJ, private shuttle to and from Midtown Daily. Please contact me directly, off list. Responsibilities: * Assist in brainstorming and defining user-facing features. * Architecting, implementing and launching highly-visible, user-facing features. * Developing features that cater to content creators. Requirements: * BS in Computer Science, or equivalent. * 3+ years of software engineering experience. * Experience programming in PHP (a must) * Experience in database development, especially MySQL. * Experience with a web content management system like Drupal, Joomla or Alfresco * Knowledge of UNIX/Linux environments. * Experience developing and designing large web sites. * Familiarity with application server, portal, document management, content management, and knowledge management technologies. Brian McCaffrey Hyatt Leader, Ltd. 622 Third Avenue New York, NY 10017 (917) 512-9360 Direct (212) 993-8010 Main (212) 993-8080 Fax Email: bmccaffrey at hyattleader.com LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/brianmccaffrey -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'd highly recommend contacting him ASAP if this type of role interests you. -- Kristina > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > > PHP 5, Zend Framework, Drupal CMS. > > > > > > Major Web Property. > > > > > > > > Location: North NJ, private shuttle to and from Midtown Daily. > > > > > > > > Please contact me directly, off list. > > > > Responsibilities: > > > > * Assist in brainstorming and defining user-facing features. > > > > * Architecting, implementing and launching highly-visible, > user-facing features. > > > > * Developing features that cater to content creators. > > > > > > > > Requirements: > > > > * BS in Computer Science, or equivalent. > > > > * 3+ years of software engineering experience. > > > > * Experience programming in PHP (a must) > > > > * Experience in database development, especially MySQL. > > > > * Experience with a web content management system like Drupal, > Joomla or Alfresco > > > > * Knowledge of UNIX/Linux environments. > > > > * Experience developing and designing large web sites. > > > > * Familiarity with application server, portal, document management, > content management, and knowledge management technologies. > > > > > > Brian McCaffrey > > Hyatt Leader, Ltd. > > 622 Third Avenue > > New York, NY 10017 > > (917) 512-9360 Direct > > (212) 993-8010 Main > > (212) 993-8080 Fax > > Email: bmccaffrey at hyattleader.com > > LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/brianmccaffrey > rosoft\Signatures\www.linkedin.com\in\brianmccaffrey> > > > > > - From CClark at glotelinc.com Fri Aug 8 11:01:05 2008 From: CClark at glotelinc.com (Christina Clark) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:01:05 -0500 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] PHP Developer- Fulltime/Perm position open Message-ID: <544FC5466FDDBE49BB42E07D8318E84401B6E5C3@CHIMAIL01.us.spring.com> A national online real estate company, is seeking a PHP Developer. Top level, innovative, web development department seeks experienced PHP developer to join a team of 8. This is a growth opportunity at a company with proven revenues and ongoing expansion. The site attracts more than 2 million unique visitors per month and the department is doing new and interesting web development on an ongoing basis. The candidate should have 5 years experience although exceptions will be made for people just out of school who demonstrate an exceptional set of skills (open source projects, etc.). The successful candidate will be an expert in at least one of these disciplines: * Object Oriented Programming (PHP 5, Java, Python, etc...) * XML * SQL (MySQL 5, Oracle, DB2, etc.) Our team has competence with all of these so the ideal candidate will be exceptional with one of the skills above in addition to having a core competency in the other two. The successful candidate will also have experience working with teams of at least 3 in a semi-formal development environment. Evaluating specifications, working with QA, unit testing, etc... are all facets of working on the team. Other desirable skills include: Search Engine Optimization, statistics, Information Architecture, and possibly other areas. Please include a cover letter indicating your experience and detailing specific projects on which you have worked. ***Seriously cool company - -very modern, hip...The candidate just needs to be technically real strong. First interview -phone tech screen with basics Second interview- face to face with possible written test. Christina Clark Technical Recruiter Glotel, Inc A division of Spring Group Plc. T: +1 212-223-6387 M: +1 917-288-5578 F: +1 212-223-5124 E: cclark at glotelinc.com www.glotel.com Global Technology resources and solutions. P Please consider the environment before printing this email. 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Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take: Creating Custom scripts Member signup with email verification & login with session authentication Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using FPDF libraries Command line processing of PHP scripts Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms Google Maps API to display a location with pop-up info XML parsing to database CSV parsing to database RSS feeds using Carp Handling File uploads Generating statistics reports from the database values Generating Graphical reports from the database values Generating Excel download from the database values Working with complex queries in Mysql console Building application with SEO friendly URLs Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in linux boxes I can also take up bigger projects with proper specification documents along with the UI/HTML prototypes. Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com to know more about my skill-set , experiences , projects as well as client references. As a verified premier paypal member since 2005? with over 70 seller reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments. Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs. -- With regards, Sundar Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Be sure to request some source before you work with him. - Ben sundar rajan wrote: > > Hi , > > > I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ yrs > of experience in building web applications . > > > Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take: > /Creating Custom scripts > Member signup with email verification & login with session authentication > Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using FPDF > libraries > Command line processing of PHP scripts > Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms > Google Maps API to display a location with > pop-up info > XML parsing to database > CSV parsing to database > RSS feeds using Carp > Handling File uploads > Generating statistics reports from the database values > Generating Graphical reports from the database values > Generating Excel download from the database values > Working with complex queries in Mysql console > Building application with SEO friendly URLs > Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in > linux boxes > / > I can also take up bigger projects with proper specification documents > along with the UI/HTML prototypes. > > > Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com > to know more about my skill-set , > experiences , projects as well as client references. > > As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 seller > reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments. > > Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs. > > > > -- > With regards, > Sundar > Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php From c_sundar_2k1 at yahoo.co.in Sat Aug 9 00:45:21 2008 From: c_sundar_2k1 at yahoo.co.in (sundar rajan) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 10:15:21 +0530 (IST) Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs of exp & good client references In-Reply-To: <489CB0FE.2090501@projectskyline.com> Message-ID: <435913.83157.qm@web94807.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Hey Ben, Thanks for the criticism, but before making it publicly , you should have contacted me regarding this. Anyway no worries , I'm open to hear to your thoughts so that I can rectify mistakes that I might make. Pls can you tell me which site you audited that I built.? --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro wrote: From: Ben Sgro Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs of exp & good client references To: Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM Hey, I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL injection, XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc. Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and paste, no functions. No layouts, templates or smarty. Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates. Be sure to request some source before you work with him. - Ben sundar rajan wrote: > > Hi , > > > I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ yrs > of experience in building web applications . > > > Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take: > /Creating Custom scripts > Member signup with email verification & login with session authentication > Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using FPDF > libraries > Command line processing of PHP scripts > Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms > Google Maps API to display a location with > pop-up info > XML parsing to database > CSV parsing to database > RSS feeds using Carp > Handling File uploads > Generating statistics reports from the database values > Generating Graphical reports from the database values > Generating Excel download from the database values > Working with complex queries in Mysql console > Building application with SEO friendly URLs > Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in > linux boxes > / > I can also take up bigger projects with proper specification documents > along with the UI/HTML prototypes. > > > Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com > to know more about my skill-set , > experiences , projects as well as client references. > > As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 seller > reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments. > > Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs. > > > > -- > With regards, > Sundar > Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This is not the same as publicly criticizing a particular product, or a company's business practice. --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro wrote: From: Ben Sgro Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs of exp & good client references To: Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM Hey, I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL injection, XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc. Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and paste, no functions. No layouts, templates or smarty. Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates. Be sure to request some source before you work with him. - Ben sundar rajan wrote: > > Hi , > > > I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ yrs > of experience in building web applications . > > > Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take: > /Creating Custom scripts > Member signup with email verification & login with session authentication > Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using FPDF > libraries > Command line processing of PHP scripts > Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms > Google Maps API to display a location with > pop-up info > XML parsing to database > CSV parsing to database > RSS feeds using Carp > Handling File uploads > Generating statistics reports from the database values > Generating Graphical reports from the database values > Generating Excel download from the database values > Working with complex queries in Mysql console > Building application with SEO friendly URLs > Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in > linux boxes > / > I can also take up bigger projects with proper specification documents > along with the UI/HTML prototypes. > > > Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com > to know more about my skill-set , > experiences , projects as well as client references. > > As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 seller > reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments. > > Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs. > > > > -- > With regards, > Sundar > Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sent from my iPhone On Aug 9, 2008, at 9:26 AM, Donna Marie Vincent wrote: > It's not only unethical to publicly disparage an individual's > ability to perform a job, you could be subject to legal action. > > Have you ever made an error while performing your job duties? > > Even a former employer would not give out this type of information. > Do you want to be responsible for someone not getting work, and > ending up homeless on the street, because of your personal opinion > about their work, which may or may not be valid? > > This is not the same as publicly criticizing a particular product, > or a company's business practice. > > > > --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro wrote: > From: Ben Sgro > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about > 5+ yrs of exp & good client references > To: > Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM > > Hey, > > I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL > injection, > XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc. > > Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and paste, > no > functions. No layouts, templates or > smarty. > Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates. > > Be sure to request some source before you work with him. > > - Ben > > sundar rajan wrote: > > > > Hi > , > > > > > > I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ yrs > > of experience in building web applications . > > > > > > Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take: > > /Creating Custom scripts > > Member signup with email verification & login with session > authentication > > Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using FPDF > > libraries > > Command line processing of PHP scripts > > Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms > > Google Maps API to display a location with > > > pop-up > info > > XML parsing to database > > CSV parsing to database > > RSS feeds using Carp > > Handling File uploads > > Generating statistics reports from the database values > > Generating Graphical reports from the database values > > Generating Excel download from the database > values > > Working with complex queries in Mysql console > > Building application with SEO friendly URLs > > Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in > > linux boxes > > / > > I can also take up bigger projects with proper specification > documents > > along with the UI/HTML prototypes. > > > > > > Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com > > to know more about my skill-set , > > experiences , projects as > well as client references. > > > > As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 seller > > reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments. > > > > Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs. > > > > > > > > -- > > With regards, > > Sundar > > Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387 > > > > > > > > --- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ka at kacomputerconsulting.com Sat Aug 9 10:19:10 2008 From: ka at kacomputerconsulting.com (Kristina Anderson) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 07:19:10 -0700 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs of exp & good client references Message-ID: <1218291550.18999@coral.he.net> There's been a firestorm of public criticism over "el cheapo Indian purveyors of crappy half a**ed code" both in general and specifically against various individuals, and for good reason. Warning someone against this sort of thing might even be considered a public service in some cases. So I think there might be a huge difference, legally, between doing that, and actual disparagment of anyone's competence. Besides...it's impossibly expensive for them to sue anyone in America for disparagement and loss of income -- and impossible also for us to sue them for delivery of crappy code, because they're in India. -- Kristina > > It's not only unethical to publicly disparage an individual's ability to perform a job, you could be subject to legal action. > > Have you ever made an error while performing your job duties? > > Even a former employer would not give out this type of information. Do you want to be responsible for someone not getting work, and ending up homeless on the street, because of your personal opinion about their work, which may or may not be valid? > > This is not the same as publicly criticizing a particular product, or a company's business practice. > > > > > > --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro wrote: > > From: Ben Sgro > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs of exp & good client references > To: > Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM > > > Hey, > > I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL injection, > XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc. > > Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and paste, no > functions. No layouts, templates or smarty. > Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates. > > Be sure to request some source before you work with him. > > - Ben > > sundar rajan wrote: > > > > Hi > , > > > > > > I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ yrs > > of experience in building web applications . > > > > > > Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take: > > /Creating Custom scripts > > Member signup with email verification & login with session > authentication > > Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using FPDF > > libraries > > Command line processing of PHP scripts > > Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms > > Google Maps API to display a location with > > > pop-up info > > XML parsing to database > > CSV parsing to database > > RSS feeds using Carp > > Handling File uploads > > Generating statistics reports from the database values > > Generating Graphical reports from the database values > > Generating Excel download from the database > values > > Working with complex queries in Mysql console > > Building application with SEO friendly URLs > > Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in > > linux boxes > > / > > I can also take up bigger projects with proper specification documents > > along with the UI/HTML prototypes. > > > > > > Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com > > to know more about my skill-set , > > experiences , projects as well as client references. > > > > As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 seller > > reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments. > > > > Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs. > > > > > > > > -- > > With regards, > > Sundar > > Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387 > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php From webmiester at gmail.com Sat Aug 9 10:50:48 2008 From: webmiester at gmail.com (RDP) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 10:50:48 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references References: <454260.65614.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <71C398476EF943939B8606AAB139D901@RDP> I'm sorry Donna, but I disagree. It's perfectly fine to express a view about someone's work. Of course we make errors in our code, everybody does. But you can't evaluate experience without examining ones work. And employers DO give out this information. Especially if an individual was let go because of inability. Finally, I'm having a problem imagining rows of unemployed PHP coders down and out on skid-row in cardboard boxes, homeless, because their work was criticized. Bye, Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: Donna Marie Vincent To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references It's not only unethical to publicly disparage an individual's ability to perform a job, you could be subject to legal action. Have you ever made an error while performing your job duties? Even a former employer would not give out this type of information. Do you want to be responsible for someone not getting work, and ending up homeless on the street, because of your personal opinion about their work, which may or may not be valid? This is not the same as publicly criticizing a particular product, or a company's business practice. --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro wrote: From: Ben Sgro Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs of exp & good client references To: Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM Hey,I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL injection, XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc.Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and paste, no functions. No layouts, templates or smarty.Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates.Be sure to request some source before you work with him.- Bensundar rajan wrote:>> Hi ,>>> I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ yrs > of experience in building web applications .>>> Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take:> /Creating Custom scripts> Member signup with email verification & login with sessionauthentication> Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using FPDF > libraries> Command line processing of PHP scripts> Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms> Google Maps API to display a location with> pop-up info> XML parsing to database> CSV parsing to database> RSS feeds using Carp> Handling File uploads> Generating statistics reports from the database values> Generating Graphical reports from the database values> Generating Excel download from the database values> Working with complex queries in Mysql console> Building application with SEO friendly URLs> Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in > linux boxes> /> I can also take up bigger projects with proper specification documents > along with the UI/HTML prototypes.>>> Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com > to know more about my skill-set , > experiences , projects as well as client references.>> As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 seller > reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments.>> Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs.>>>> -- > With regards,> Sundar> Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------>> _______________________________________________> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online> http://www.nyphpcon.com>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php_______________________________________________New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing Listhttp://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobsNYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Onlinehttp://www.nyphpcon.comShow Your Participation in New York PHPhttp://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ben at projectskyline.com Sat Aug 9 11:49:09 2008 From: ben at projectskyline.com (Ben Sgro) Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 11:49:09 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs of exp & good client references In-Reply-To: <435913.83157.qm@web94807.mail.in2.yahoo.com> References: <435913.83157.qm@web94807.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <489DBC75.2000800@projectskyline.com> Hello, No, I can't. If the client feels they want to speak up, so be it. I believe they found you on this list. - Ben sundar rajan wrote: > Hey Ben, > > Thanks for the criticism, but before making it publicly , you should > have contacted me regarding this. > > Anyway no worries , I'm open to hear to your thoughts so that I can > rectify mistakes that I might make. > > Pls can you tell me which site you audited that I built.? > > --- On *Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro //* wrote: > > From: Ben Sgro > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with > about 5+ yrs of exp & good client references > To: > Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM > > Hey, > > I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL injection, > XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc. > > Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and paste, no > functions. No layouts, templates or smarty. > Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates. > > Be sure to request some source before you work with him. > > - Ben > > sundar rajan wrote: > > > > Hi > , > > > > > > I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ yrs > > of experience in building web applications . > > > > > > Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take: > > /Creating Custom scripts > > Member signup with email verification & login with session > authentication > > Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using FPDF > > libraries > > Command line processing of PHP scripts > > Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms > > Google Maps API to display a location with > > > pop-up info > > XML parsing to database > > CSV parsing to database > > RSS feeds using Carp > > Handling File uploads > > Generating statistics reports from the database values > > Generating Graphical reports from the database values > > Generating Excel download from the database > values > > Working with complex queries in Mysql console > > Building application with SEO friendly URLs > > Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in > > linux boxes > > / > > I can also take up bigger projects with proper specification documents > > along with the UI/HTML prototypes. > > > > > > Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com > > to know more about my skill-set , > > experiences , projects as well as client references. > > > > As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 seller > > reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments. > > > > Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs. > > > > > > > > -- > > With regards, > > Sundar > > Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387 > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > From wint at socketnet.com Sat Aug 9 12:00:22 2008 From: wint at socketnet.com (Andrew Wint) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 12:00:22 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references In-Reply-To: <71C398476EF943939B8606AAB139D901@RDP> References: <454260.65614.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <71C398476EF943939B8606AAB139D901@RDP> Message-ID: All he did was to provide transparency, now we are discussing the issues. Kristina gave very valid points about the 'delivery of crappy code' and not being able to take action because they are in another country. Another point is that this why we have standards of development practices, these standards shouldn't be compromised they can bend a bit but not break. Sundar needs to seek them out and adhere to them. I know it may seem harsh but it may help Sundar down the line in his growth. As well as protect a small struggling company, thinking they are saving money but falling into a trap. Ben did a good thing. On Aug 9, 2008, at 10:50 AM, RDP wrote: > I'm sorry Donna, but I disagree. > > It's perfectly fine to express a view about someone's work. > > Of course we make errors in our code, everybody does. But you can't > evaluate experience without examining ones work. > > And employers DO give out this information. Especially if an > individual was let go because of inability. > > Finally, I'm having a problem imagining rows of unemployed PHP > coders down and out on skid-row in cardboard boxes, homeless, > because their work was criticized. > > Bye, > > Rob > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Donna Marie Vincent > To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:26 AM > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about > 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references > > It's not only unethical to publicly disparage an individual's > ability to perform a job, you could be subject to legal action. > > Have you ever made an error while performing your job duties? > > Even a former employer would not give out this type of information. > Do you want to be responsible for someone not getting work, and > ending up homeless on the street, because of your personal opinion > about their work, which may or may not be valid? > > This is not the same as publicly criticizing a particular product, > or a company's business practice. > > > > --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro wrote: > From: Ben Sgro > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about > 5+ yrs of exp & good client references > To: > Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM > > Hey, > > I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL > injection, > XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc. > > Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and paste, > no > functions. No layouts, templates or > smarty. > Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates. > > Be sure to request some source before you work with him. > > - Ben > > sundar rajan wrote: > > > > Hi > , > > > > > > I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ yrs > > of experience in building web applications . > > > > > > Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take: > > /Creating Custom scripts > > Member signup with email verification & login with session > authentication > > Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using FPDF > > libraries > > Command line processing of PHP scripts > > Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms > > Google Maps API to display a location with > > > pop-up > info > > XML parsing to database > > CSV parsing to database > > RSS feeds using Carp > > Handling File uploads > > Generating statistics reports from the database values > > Generating Graphical reports from the database values > > Generating Excel download from the database > values > > Working with complex queries in Mysql console > > Building application with SEO friendly URLs > > Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in > > linux boxes > > / > > I can also take up bigger projects with proper specification > documents > > along with the UI/HTML prototypes. > > > > > > Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com > > to know more about my skill-set , > > experiences , projects as > well as client references. > > > > As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 seller > > reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments. > > > > Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs. > > > > > > > > -- > > With regards, > > Sundar > > Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sean at gcnpublishing.com Sat Aug 9 12:25:43 2008 From: sean at gcnpublishing.com (Sean Fulton) Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 12:25:43 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references In-Reply-To: References: <454260.65614.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <71C398476EF943939B8606AAB139D901@RDP> Message-ID: <489DC507.3070704@gcnpublishing.com> I disagree. This wasn't a former employer complaining about a consultant's work, this was another consultant, a competitor if you will, stating as fact something that no one can possibly double-check. I think it's unfair, and am surprised that, on a list dedicated to helping consultants find jobs, you folks would not be more concerned about it. I think this is the first time I have seen someone in a public forum accuse someone of something and not be called to provide proof of their claims. Very puzzling. No one knows what the job requirements were, what the client's expectations were, or what the budget was. Did the client provide enough time and budget to have the job done right, or did they just say, "Get it done for next to nothing," and then when they realized the short-sidedness of their approach, hire Ben to clean up the mess rather than go back to the developer they low-balled and admit that they didn't give him enough time and $$ to do the job correctly. We don't know. Ben won't even tell the list who the client was or produce evidence of the inferior work. So to my mind, this whole thread is quite unfair to the developer who originally posted his availability and should be dropped. Finally, as you read this, please keep in mind that we are a company that employs people on this list, that's why I subscribe. I have employed developers here in the US and in six other countries. I find *no* geo-political differences in coding skills. We evaluate developers based on samples, client references and their ability to follow directions. I have had more than a few developers who are so focused on developing "great code" that they completely ignore the project specs, budget and time-lines. Those people don't last long, but people who follow directions do. Again, without knowing the original assignment that Sundar was given and what went on between he and the client at that time, facts which I doubt even Ben knows, we really can't draw any useful conclusions nor should we try. Just my $.02. sean Andrew Wint wrote: > All he did was to provide transparency, now we are discussing the > issues. Kristina gave very valid points about the 'delivery of crappy > code' and not being able to take action because they are in another > country. > > Another point is that this why we have standards of development > practices, these standards shouldn't be compromised they can bend a > bit but not break. Sundar needs to seek them out and adhere to them. > > I know it may seem harsh but it may help Sundar down the line in his > growth. As well as protect a small struggling company, thinking they > are saving money but falling into a trap. > > Ben did a good thing. > > > > > > On Aug 9, 2008, at 10:50 AM, RDP wrote: > >> I'm sorry Donna, but I disagree. >> >> It's perfectly fine to express a view about someone's work. >> >> Of course we make errors in our code, everybody does. But you can't >> evaluate experience without examining ones work. >> >> And employers DO give out this information. Especially if an >> individual was let go because of inability. >> >> Finally, I'm having a problem imagining rows of unemployed PHP coders >> down and out on skid-row in cardboard boxes, homeless, because their >> work was criticized. >> >> Bye, >> >> Rob >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Donna Marie Vincent >> *To:* jobs at lists.nyphp.org >> *Sent:* Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:26 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with >> about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references >> >> It's not only unethical to publicly disparage an individual's >> ability to perform a job, you could be subject to legal action. >> >> Have you ever made an error while performing your job duties? >> >> Even a former employer would not give out this type of >> information. Do you want to be responsible for someone not >> getting work, and ending up homeless on the street, because of >> your personal opinion about their work, which may or may not be >> valid? >> >> This is not the same as publicly criticizing a particular >> product, or a company's business practice. >> >> >> >> --- On *Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro /> >/* wrote: >> >> From: Ben Sgro > > >> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with >> about 5+ yrs of exp & good client references >> To: >> Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org >> Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM >> >> Hey, >> >> I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL injection, >> XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc. >> >> Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and paste, no >> functions. No layouts, templates or >> smarty. >> Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates. >> >> Be sure to request some source before you work with him. >> >> - Ben >> >> sundar rajan wrote: >> > >> > Hi >> , >> > >> > >> > I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ yrs >> > of experience in building web applications . >> > >> > >> > Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take: >> > /Creating Custom scripts >> > Member signup with email verification & login with session >> authentication >> > Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using FPDF >> > libraries >> > Command line processing of PHP scripts >> > Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms >> > Google Maps API to display a location with >> >> > pop-up >> info >> > XML parsing to database >> > CSV parsing to database >> > RSS feeds using Carp >> > Handling File uploads >> > Generating statistics reports from the database values >> > Generating Graphical reports from the database values >> > Generating Excel download from the database >> values >> > Working with complex queries in Mysql console >> > Building application with SEO friendly URLs >> > Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in >> > linux boxes >> > / >> > I can also take up bigger projects with proper specification documents >> > along with the UI/HTML prototypes. >> > >> > >> > Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com >> > to know more about my skill-set , >> > experiences , projects as >> well as client references. >> > >> > As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 seller >> > reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments. >> > >> > Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs. >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > With regards, >> > Sundar >> > Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387 >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> > >> > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> > http://www.nyphpcon.com >> > >> > Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -- Sean Fulton GCN Publishing, Inc. 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This was not the appropriate place for his criticism. ----- Original Message ---- From: Andrew Wint To: RDP Cc: Donna Marie Vincent ; jobs at lists.nyphp.org Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2008 12:00:22 PM Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references All he did was to provide transparency, now we are discussing the issues. Kristina gave very valid points about the 'delivery of crappy code' and not being able to take action because they are in another country. Another point is that this why we have standards of development practices, these standards shouldn't be compromised they can bend a bit but not break. Sundar needs to seek them out and adhere to them. I know it may seem harsh but it may help Sundar down the line in his growth. As well as protect a small struggling company, thinking they are saving money but falling into a trap. Ben did a good thing. On Aug 9, 2008, at 10:50 AM, RDP wrote: I'm sorry Donna, but I disagree. It's perfectly fine to express a view about someone's work. Of course we make errors in our code, everybody does. But you can't evaluate experience without examining ones work. And employers DO give out this information. Especially if an individual was let go because of inability. Finally, I'm having a problem imagining rows of unemployed PHP coders down and out on skid-row in cardboard boxes, homeless, because their work was criticized. Bye, Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: Donna Marie Vincent To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references It's not only unethical to publicly disparage an individual's ability to perform a job, you could be subject to legal action. Have you ever made an error while performing your job duties? Even a former employer would not give out this type of information. Do you want to be responsible for someone not getting work, and ending up homeless on the street, because of your personal opinion about their work, which may or may not be valid? This is not the same as publicly criticizing a particular product, or a company's business practice. --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro wrote: From: Ben Sgro Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs of exp & good client references To: Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM Hey, I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL injection, XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc. Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and paste, no functions. No layouts, templates or smarty. Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates. Be sure to request some source before you work with him. - Ben sundar rajan wrote: > > Hi , > > > I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ yrs > of experience in building web applications . > > > Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take: > /Creating Custom scripts > Member signup with email verification & login with session authentication > Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using FPDF > libraries > Command line processing of PHP scripts > Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms > Google Maps API to display a location with > pop-up info > XML parsing to database > CSV parsing to database > RSS feeds using Carp > Handling File uploads > Generating statistics reports from the database values > Generating Graphical reports from the database values > Generating Excel download from the database values > Working with complex queries in Mysql console > Building application with SEO friendly URLs > Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in > linux boxes > / > I can also take up bigger projects with proper specification documents > along with the UI/HTML prototypes. > > > Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com > to know more about my skill-set , > experiences , projects as well as client references. > > As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 seller > reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments. > > Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs. > > > > -- > With regards, > Sundar > Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php ________________________________ _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php_______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com Sat Aug 9 12:40:08 2008 From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 09:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references Message-ID: <132216.12442.qm@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sean, Well said! Thank you for your $.02. Donna ----- Original Message ---- From: Sean Fulton To: Andrew Wint Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2008 12:25:43 PM Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references I disagree. This wasn't a former employer complaining about a consultant's work, this was another consultant, a competitor if you will, stating as fact something that no one can possibly double-check. I think it's unfair, and am surprised that, on a list dedicated to helping consultants find jobs, you folks would not be more concerned about it. I think this is the first time I have seen someone in a public forum accuse someone of something and not be called to provide proof of their claims. Very puzzling. No one knows what the job requirements were, what the client's expectations were, or what the budget was. Did the client provide enough time and budget to have the job done right, or did they just say, "Get it done for next to nothing," and then when they realized the short-sidedness of their approach, hire Ben to clean up the mess rather than go back to the developer they low-balled and admit that they didn't give him enough time and $$ to do the job correctly. We don't know. Ben won't even tell the list who the client was or produce evidence of the inferior work. So to my mind, this whole thread is quite unfair to the developer who originally posted his availability and should be dropped. Finally, as you read this, please keep in mind that we are a company that employs people on this list, that's why I subscribe. I have employed developers here in the US and in six other countries. I find *no* geo-political differences in coding skills. We evaluate developers based on samples, client references and their ability to follow directions. I have had more than a few developers who are so focused on developing "great code" that they completely ignore the project specs, budget and time-lines. Those people don't last long, but people who follow directions do. Again, without knowing the original assignment that Sundar was given and what went on between he and the client at that time, facts which I doubt even Ben knows, we really can't draw any useful conclusions nor should we try. Just my $.02. sean Andrew Wint wrote: All he did was to provide transparency, now we are discussing the issues. Kristina gave very valid points about the 'delivery of crappy code' and not being able to take action because they are in another country. Another point is that this why we have standards of development practices, these standards shouldn't be compromised they can bend a bit but not break. Sundar needs to seek them out and adhere to them. I know it may seem harsh but it may help Sundar down the line in his growth. As well as protect a small struggling company, thinking they are saving money but falling into a trap. Ben did a good thing. On Aug 9, 2008, at 10:50 AM, RDP wrote: I'm sorry Donna, but I disagree. It's perfectly fine to express a view about someone's work. Of course we make errors in our code, everybody does. But you can't evaluate experience without examining ones work. And employers DO give out this information. Especially if an individual was let go because of inability. Finally, I'm having a problem imagining rows of unemployed PHP coders down and out on skid-row in cardboard boxes, homeless, because their work was criticized. Bye, Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: Donna Marie Vincent To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references It's not only unethical to publicly disparage an individual's ability to perform a job, you could be subject to legal action. Have you ever made an error while performing your job duties? Even a former employer would not give out this type of information. Do you want to be responsible for someone not getting work, and ending up homeless on the street, because of your personal opinion about their work, which may or may not be valid? This is not the same as publicly criticizing a particular product, or a company's business practice. --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro wrote: From: Ben Sgro Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs of exp & good client references To: Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM Hey, I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL injection, XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc. Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and paste, no functions. No layouts, templates or smarty. Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates. Be sure to request some source before you work with him. - Ben sundar rajan wrote: > > Hi , > > > I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ yrs > of experience in building web applications . > > > Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take: > /Creating Custom scripts > Member signup with email verification & login with session authentication > Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using FPDF > libraries > Command line processing of PHP scripts > Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms > Google Maps API to display a location with > pop-up info > XML parsing to database > CSV parsing to database > RSS feeds using Carp > Handling File uploads > Generating statistics reports from the database values > Generating Graphical reports from the database values > Generating Excel download from the database values > Working with complex queries in Mysql console > Building application with SEO friendly URLs > Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in > linux boxes > / > I can also take up bigger projects with proper specification documents > along with the UI/HTML prototypes. > > > Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com > to know more about my skill-set , > experiences , projects as well as client references. > > As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 seller > reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments. > > Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs. > > > > -- > With regards, > Sundar > Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php ________________________________ _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php ________________________________ _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -- Sean Fulton GCN Publishing, Inc. Internet Design, Development and Consulting For Today's Media Companies http://www.gcnpublishing.com (203) 665-6211, x203 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From webmiester at gmail.com Sat Aug 9 12:41:27 2008 From: webmiester at gmail.com (RDP) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 12:41:27 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references References: <454260.65614.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <71C398476EF943939B8606AAB139D901@RDP> <489DC507.3070704@gcnpublishing.com> Message-ID: <04DE42BFE1644F019FE317281B37D885@RDP> I agree with Ben! Yay Ben! ----- Original Message ----- From: Sean Fulton To: Andrew Wint Cc: RDP ; jobs at lists.nyphp.org Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references I disagree. This wasn't a former employer complaining about a consultant's work, this was another consultant, a competitor if you will, stating as fact something that no one can possibly double-check. I think it's unfair, and am surprised that, on a list dedicated to helping consultants find jobs, you folks would not be more concerned about it. I think this is the first time I have seen someone in a public forum accuse someone of something and not be called to provide proof of their claims. Very puzzling. No one knows what the job requirements were, what the client's expectations were, or what the budget was. Did the client provide enough time and budget to have the job done right, or did they just say, "Get it done for next to nothing," and then when they realized the short-sidedness of their approach, hire Ben to clean up the mess rather than go back to the developer they low-balled and admit that they didn't give him enough time and $$ to do the job correctly. We don't know. Ben won't even tell the list who the client was or produce evidence of the inferior work. So to my mind, this whole thread is quite unfair to the developer who originally posted his availability and should be dropped. Finally, as you read this, please keep in mind that we are a company that employs people on this list, that's why I subscribe. I have employed developers here in the US and in six other countries. I find *no* geo-political differences in coding skills. We evaluate developers based on samples, client references and their ability to follow directions. I have had more than a few developers who are so focused on developing "great code" that they completely ignore the project specs, budget and time-lines. Those people don't last long, but people who follow directions do. Again, without knowing the original assignment that Sundar was given and what went on between he and the client at that time, facts which I doubt even Ben knows, we really can't draw any useful conclusions nor should we try. Just my $.02. sean Andrew Wint wrote: All he did was to provide transparency, now we are discussing the issues. Kristina gave very valid points about the 'delivery of crappy code' and not being able to take action because they are in another country. Another point is that this why we have standards of development practices, these standards shouldn't be compromised they can bend a bit but not break. Sundar needs to seek them out and adhere to them. I know it may seem harsh but it may help Sundar down the line in his growth. As well as protect a small struggling company, thinking they are saving money but falling into a trap. Ben did a good thing. On Aug 9, 2008, at 10:50 AM, RDP wrote: I'm sorry Donna, but I disagree. It's perfectly fine to express a view about someone's work. Of course we make errors in our code, everybody does. But you can't evaluate experience without examining ones work. And employers DO give out this information. Especially if an individual was let go because of inability. Finally, I'm having a problem imagining rows of unemployed PHP coders down and out on skid-row in cardboard boxes, homeless, because their work was criticized. Bye, Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: Donna Marie Vincent To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references It's not only unethical to publicly disparage an individual's ability to perform a job, you could be subject to legal action. Have you ever made an error while performing your job duties? Even a former employer would not give out this type of information. Do you want to be responsible for someone not getting work, and ending up homeless on the street, because of your personal opinion about their work, which may or may not be valid? This is not the same as publicly criticizing a particular product, or a company's business practice. --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro wrote: From: Ben Sgro Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs of exp & good client references To: Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM Hey, I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL injection, XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc. Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and paste, no functions. No layouts, templates or smarty. Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates. Be sure to request some source before you work with him. - Ben sundar rajan wrote: > > Hi , > > > I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ yrs > of experience in building web applications . > > > Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take: > /Creating Custom scripts > Member signup with email verification & login with session authentication > Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using FPDF > libraries > Command line processing of PHP scripts > Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms > Google Maps API to display a location with > pop-up info > XML parsing to database > CSV parsing to database > RSS feeds using Carp > Handling File uploads > Generating statistics reports from the database values > Generating Graphical reports from the database values > Generating Excel download from the database values > Working with complex queries in Mysql console > Building application with SEO friendly URLs > Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in > linux boxes > / > I can also take up bigger projects with proper specification documents > along with the UI/HTML prototypes. > > > Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com > to know more about my skill-set , > experiences , projects as well as client references. > > As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 seller > reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments. > > Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs. > > > > -- > With regards, > Sundar > Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -- Sean Fulton GCN Publishing, Inc. Internet Design, Development and Consulting For Today's Media Companies http://www.gcnpublishing.com (203) 665-6211, x203 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smanes at magpie.com Sat Aug 9 13:06:24 2008 From: smanes at magpie.com (Steve Manes) Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 13:06:24 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references In-Reply-To: <14978.84810.qm@web35601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <14978.84810.qm@web35601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <489DCE90.3090408@magpie.com> Donna Marie Vincent wrote: > That's something that should have been done privately and directly to > the person involved. > > How do you know Ben's criticism is accurate? How do you know Sundar > hasn't learned to write better code since that time? > > This was not the appropriate place for his criticism. Yeah, that's the concern I have about something like this. I've read Ben's posts for a while so I have no reason to doubt the criticism but, truth is, I also have no reason to believe there might not be a personal grudge being vented. I'm not suggesting that's what's happening here, just that it bothers me that we're all potentially vulnerable to having capricious charges lobbed against us in a public forum. Just last week, on another forum, I read someone brutalize a masonry contractor I've used several times and know to be one of the best in the city. After speaking with him, the issue was a dispute over an expensive change-work order which the client expected the contractor to eat after the contracts had been signed and the quote locked in. From ka at kacomputerconsulting.com Sat Aug 9 13:30:41 2008 From: ka at kacomputerconsulting.com (Kristina Anderson) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 10:30:41 -0700 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs Message-ID: <1218303041.19517@coral.he.net> There are some on this list who've previously said that "the market" will take care of situations where people want to pay low wages to programmers. One of the ways that "the market" might do this, theoretically, is to make sure that people find out the hard way, when they hire cheap programmers, that it takes a lot of experience and dedication to be good at this, and a good programmer expects (and needs) remuneration of a more-than-minimum-wage sort (and stands behind their work -- if something needs to be fixed, fixes it). With globalization and wage pressures increasing, these issues aren't going away. But from a personal standpoint, I'm at a stage in my career where I want to move from competence to excellence. Dealing with situations where I'm being not being paid a fair fee for my work, or situations where clients are being unfair or unreasonable, does not put me in the correct mental state to move towards excellence. Too many of us are caught in a tug of war between our own desire to write good, solid code and the stark reality of the amount of code we need to generate to pay the bills...the greater the amount of that code is, the greater likelihood that some of it just isn't going to be as good as it could have been. I don't mean to say that I agree specifically with posting comments of a critical nature on a public board. I am not qualified to say whether it's right or wrong to do so here. Just posting some thoughts. -- Kristina > Donna Marie Vincent wrote: > > That's something that should have been done privately and directly to > > the person involved. > > > > How do you know Ben's criticism is accurate? How do you know Sundar > > hasn't learned to write better code since that time? > > > > This was not the appropriate place for his criticism. > > Yeah, that's the concern I have about something like this. I've read > Ben's posts for a while so I have no reason to doubt the criticism but, > truth is, I also have no reason to believe there might not be a personal > grudge being vented. I'm not suggesting that's what's happening here, > just that it bothers me that we're all potentially vulnerable to having > capricious charges lobbed against us in a public forum. > > Just last week, on another forum, I read someone brutalize a masonry > contractor I've used several times and know to be one of the best in the > city. After speaking with him, the issue was a dispute over an > expensive change-work order which the client expected the contractor to > eat after the contracts had been signed and the quote locked in. > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com Sat Aug 9 13:32:55 2008 From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 10:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references Message-ID: <456022.17693.qm@web35601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This is cruel and inappropriate. It's more about killing off your competition to build yourself up than it is about providing helpful information. Barbaric is another word that comes to mind. ----- Original Message ---- From: RDP To: sean at gcnpublishing.com; Andrew Wint Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2008 12:41:27 PM Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references I agree with Ben! Yay Ben! ----- Original Message ----- From: Sean Fulton To: Andrew Wint Cc: RDP ; jobs at lists.nyphp.org Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references I disagree. This wasn't a former employer complaining about a consultant's work, this was another consultant, a competitor if you will, stating as fact something that no one can possibly double-check. I think it's unfair, and am surprised that, on a list dedicated to helping consultants find jobs, you folks would not be more concerned about it. I think this is the first time I have seen someone in a public forum accuse someone of something and not be called to provide proof of their claims. Very puzzling. No one knows what the job requirements were, what the client's expectations were, or what the budget was. Did the client provide enough time and budget to have the job done right, or did they just say, "Get it done for next to nothing," and then when they realized the short-sidedness of their approach, hire Ben to clean up the mess rather than go back to the developer they low-balled and admit that they didn't give him enough time and $$ to do the job correctly. We don't know. Ben won't even tell the list who the client was or produce evidence of the inferior work. So to my mind, this whole thread is quite unfair to the developer who originally posted his availability and should be dropped. Finally, as you read this, please keep in mind that we are a company that employs people on this list, that's why I subscribe. I have employed developers here in the US and in six other countries. I find *no* geo-political differences in coding skills. We evaluate developers based on samples, client references and their ability to follow directions. I have had more than a few developers who are so focused on developing "great code" that they completely ignore the project specs, budget and time-lines. Those people don't last long, but people who follow directions do. Again, without knowing the original assignment that Sundar was given and what went on between he and the client at that time, facts which I doubt even Ben knows, we really can't draw any useful conclusions nor should we try. Just my $.02. sean Andrew Wint wrote: All he did was to provide transparency, now we are discussing the issues. Kristina gave very valid points about the 'delivery of crappy code' and not being able to take action because they are in another country. Another point is that this why we have standards of development practices, these standards shouldn't be compromised they can bend a bit but not break. Sundar needs to seek them out and adhere to them. I know it may seem harsh but it may help Sundar down the line in his growth. As well as protect a small struggling company, thinking they are saving money but falling into a trap. Ben did a good thing. On Aug 9, 2008, at 10:50 AM, RDP wrote: I'm sorry Donna, but I disagree. It's perfectly fine to express a view about someone's work. Of course we make errors in our code, everybody does. But you can't evaluate experience without examining ones work. And employers DO give out this information. Especially if an individual was let go because of inability. Finally, I'm having a problem imagining rows of unemployed PHP coders down and out on skid-row in cardboard boxes, homeless, because their work was criticized. Bye, Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: Donna Marie Vincent To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references It's not only unethical to publicly disparage an individual's ability to perform a job, you could be subject to legal action. Have you ever made an error while performing your job duties? Even a former employer would not give out this type of information. Do you want to be responsible for someone not getting work, and ending up homeless on the street, because of your personal opinion about their work, which may or may not be valid? This is not the same as publicly criticizing a particular product, or a company's business practice. --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro wrote: From: Ben Sgro Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs of exp & good client references To: Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM Hey, I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL injection, XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc. Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and paste, no functions. No layouts, templates or smarty. Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates. Be sure to request some source before you work with him. - Ben sundar rajan wrote: > > Hi , > > > I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ yrs > of experience in building web applications . > > > Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take: > /Creating Custom scripts > Member signup with email verification & login with session authentication > Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using FPDF > libraries > Command line processing of PHP scripts > Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms > Google Maps API to display a location with > pop-up info > XML parsing to database > CSV parsing to database > RSS feeds using Carp > Handling File uploads > Generating statistics reports from the database values > Generating Graphical reports from the database values > Generating Excel download from the database values > Working with complex queries in Mysql console > Building application with SEO friendly URLs > Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in > linux boxes > / > I can also take up bigger projects with proper specification documents > along with the UI/HTML prototypes. > > > Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com > to know more about my skill-set , > experiences , projects as well as client references. > > As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 seller > reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments. > > Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs. > > > > -- > With regards, > Sundar > Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php ________________________________ _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php_______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php ________________________________ _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -- Sean Fulton GCN Publishing, Inc. Internet Design, Development and Consulting For Today's Media Companies http://www.gcnpublishing.com (203) 665-6211, x203 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wint at socketnet.com Sat Aug 9 14:23:24 2008 From: wint at socketnet.com (Andrew Wint) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 14:23:24 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references In-Reply-To: <489DCE90.3090408@magpie.com> References: <14978.84810.qm@web35601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <489DCE90.3090408@magpie.com> Message-ID: I don't think we are trying to kill off the competition just raise the bar of professionalism. Ben in his post didn't say outright, Sundar was a bad programmer or someone you shouldn't work with. He gave a description of Sundar's work and recommended that you request a work sample. There might be people who don't care about or know what OOP, Database encapsulation or MVC is, for those people Sundar is some you might want to with. Another issue this brings up is, PHP and web developers are looked down on as Hacks. I work for a Financial Services Technology Company and work with Java, C and C++ developers everyday. They don't think very much of PHP developers. But when they see me use OOP, Database Encapsulation, MVC etc... They are very shocked and surprised. I have been asked by a C++ developer if PHP has arrays. LOL This negative image of PHP and Web Developers is based on their past experience, working with developers who work the same way Sundar does. We all have seen people who code like this. Doesn't mean Sundar is a bad person or never work with the guy. He just has to grow. Sundar will be fine and will be a better developer out of this, I know it isn't easy. It's not fun but he will improve out of this. On Aug 9, 2008, at 1:06 PM, Steve Manes wrote: > Donna Marie Vincent wrote: >> That's something that should have been done privately and directly >> to the person involved. >> How do you know Ben's criticism is accurate? How do you know >> Sundar hasn't learned to write better code since that time? >> This was not the appropriate place for his criticism. > > Yeah, that's the concern I have about something like this. I've > read Ben's posts for a while so I have no reason to doubt the > criticism but, truth is, I also have no reason to believe there > might not be a personal grudge being vented. I'm not suggesting > that's what's happening here, just that it bothers me that we're all > potentially vulnerable to having capricious charges lobbed against > us in a public forum. > > Just last week, on another forum, I read someone brutalize a masonry > contractor I've used several times and know to be one of the best in > the city. After speaking with him, the issue was a dispute over an > expensive change-work order which the client expected the contractor > to eat after the contracts had been signed and the quote locked in. > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php From c_sundar_2k1 at yahoo.co.in Sat Aug 9 14:47:57 2008 From: c_sundar_2k1 at yahoo.co.in (sundar rajan) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 00:17:57 +0530 (IST) Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Important Info & Request to all members in this forum abt my initial post In-Reply-To: <489DC507.3070704@gcnpublishing.com> Message-ID: <678989.93661.qm@web94806.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Hi All, ? Thanks for all the criticism to my post & the reply sent by Ben. ? Actually I never know who this guys Ben is , I have never worked with him before & ofcourse he is not my client too. ? I have been in this freelancing profession for abt 3+ yrs & never got such criticism from my clients , though I had troubles / faults in the project that I work with my clients , they use to tell me the changes & I do make sure to deliver those changes as per the client's requests. ? I never leave my clients in trouble with frustration , even though if I do some mistakes I do admit to my clients & they give me a chance to work on it & prove it & I have done so. ? You all can have a look at my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com , besides I have also been member in various freelancing forums & have good client reference , reputation. ? If you all wish to help a fellow programmer like me , just request Ben to send us what project I worked that had the issues as he said. To the best of my knowledge I don't think there shud be such projects , but if there were some issues the client would have got resolved it with me , they would'nt speak bad abt me to a third party code auditor like Ben (because all the clients I have worked were very genuine , pleasant & helpfull in nature). ? Pls guys never think bad & have a negative impression abt me, due to Ben's posting , though I'm not located in US , I do work with clients based at US / UK etc,.. ? 510.455.4387 this is my US skypein number , you can call me in this number if you have issues with this post. ? I wonder why Ben has posted such critics abt my thread publicly on this forum. ? Anyway lets wait for a good solution. --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Sean Fulton wrote: From: Sean Fulton Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references To: "Andrew Wint" Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 9:55 PM I disagree. This wasn't a former employer complaining about a consultant's work, this was another consultant, a competitor if you will, stating as fact something that no one can possibly double-check. I think it's unfair, and am surprised that, on a list dedicated to helping consultants find jobs, you folks would not be more concerned about it. I think this is the first time I have seen someone in a public forum accuse someone of something and not be called to provide proof of their claims. Very puzzling. No one knows what the job requirements were, what the client's expectations were, or what the budget was. Did the client provide enough time and budget to have the job done right, or did they just say, "Get it done for next to nothing," and then when they realized the short-sidedness of their approach, hire Ben to clean up the mess rather than go back to the developer they low-balled and admit that they didn't give him enough time and $$ to do the job correctly. We don't know. Ben won't even tell the list who the client was or produce evidence of the inferior work. So to my mind, this whole thread is quite unfair to the developer who originally posted his availability and should be dropped. Finally, as you read this, please keep in mind that we are a company that? employs people on this list, that's why I subscribe. I have employed developers here in the US and in six other countries. I find *no* geo-political differences in coding skills. We evaluate developers based on samples, client references and their ability to follow directions. I have had more than a few developers who are so focused on developing "great code" that they completely ignore the project specs, budget and time-lines. Those people don't last long, but people who follow directions do. Again, without knowing the original assignment that Sundar was given and what went on between he and the client at that time, facts which I doubt even Ben knows, we really can't draw any useful conclusions nor should we try. Just my $.02. sean Andrew Wint wrote: All he did was to provide?transparency, now we are?discussing the issues. Kristina gave very valid points about the 'delivery of crappy code' and not being able to take action because they are in another country. ? Another point is that this why we have standards of development practices, these standards shouldn't be?compromised they can bend a bit but not break. Sundar needs to seek them out and adhere to them. I know it may seem harsh but it may help Sundar down the line in his growth.. ?As well as protect a small struggling company, thinking they are saving money but ?falling into a trap. Ben did a good thing. ? On Aug 9, 2008, at 10:50 AM, RDP wrote: I'm sorry Donna, but I disagree. ? It's perfectly fine to express a view about someone's work. ? Of course we make errors in our code, everybody does.? But you can't evaluate experience without examining ones work. ? And employers DO give out this information.? Especially if an individual was let go because of inability. ? Finally, I'm having a problem imagining rows of unemployed PHP coders down and out on skid-row in cardboard boxes, homeless, because their work was criticized. ? Bye, ? Rob ? ? ----- Original Message ----- From:?Donna Marie Vincent To:?jobs at lists.nyphp.org Sent:?Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:26 AM Subject:?Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references It's not only unethical to publicly disparage an individual's ability to perform a job, you could be subject to legal action. Have you ever made an error while performing your job duties? Even a former employer would not give out this type of information.? Do you want to be responsible for someone not getting work, and ending up homeless on the street, because of your personal opinion about their work, which may or may not be valid??? This is not the same as publicly criticizing a particular product, or a company's business practice. --- On?Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro??wrote: From: Ben Sgro Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs of exp & good client references To:? Cc:?jobs at lists.nyphp.org Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM Hey, I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL injection, XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc. Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and paste, no functions. No layouts, templates or smarty. Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates. Be sure to request some source before you work with him. - Ben sundar rajan wrote: > > Hi , > > > I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ yrs > of experience in building web applications . > > > Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take: > /Creating Custom scripts > Member signup with email verification & login with session authentication > Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using FPDF > libraries > Command line processing of PHP scripts > Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms > Google Maps API to display a location with > pop-up info > XML parsing to database > CSV parsing to database > RSS feeds using Carp > Handling File uploads > Generating statistics reports from the database values > Generating Graphical reports from the database values > Generating Excel download from the database values > Working with complex queries in Mysql console > Building application with SEO friendly URLs > Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in > linux boxes > / > I can also take up bigger projects with proper specification documents > along with the UI/HTML prototypes. > > > Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com > to know more about my skill-set , > experiences , projects as well as client references. > > As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 seller > reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments. > > Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs. > > > > -- > With regards, > Sundar > Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php_______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -- Sean Fulton GCN Publishing, Inc. Internet Design, Development and Consulting For Today's Media Companies http://www.gcnpublishing.com (203) 665-6211, x203 _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From guilhermeblanco at gmail.com Sat Aug 9 15:09:25 2008 From: guilhermeblanco at gmail.com (Guilherme Blanco) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 16:09:25 -0300 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Important Info & Request to all members in this forum abt my initial pos In-Reply-To: <678989.93661.qm@web94806.mail.in2.yahoo.com> References: <489DC507.3070704@gcnpublishing.com> <678989.93661.qm@web94806.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Actually it seems Ben did it wrong. None here born with all knowledge, and surely they improved their skills by working hard to improve themselves while reading, researching and experimenting. So, none here has enough words to point a finger on someone else's face, talk about skills, etc. You pay for your code and if you want to pay less, your code will be less secure, organized, implemented. That's what differ senior, junior, etc and also good and bad programmers. I'll never put my money into a 15yrs. old boy that tells me that knows PHP, since I know I have a great chance to have holes in my code. Short version: The amount of money you pay is the code art equivalent you have. Regards, On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 3:47 PM, sundar rajan wrote: > Hi All, > > Thanks for all the criticism to my post & the reply sent by Ben. > > Actually I never know who this guys Ben is , I have never worked with him > before & ofcourse he is not my client too. > > I have been in this freelancing profession for abt 3+ yrs & never got such > criticism from my clients , though I had troubles / faults in the project > that I work with my clients , they use to tell me the changes & I do make > sure to deliver those changes as per the client's requests. > > I never leave my clients in trouble with frustration , even though if I do > some mistakes I do admit to my clients & they give me a chance to work on it > & prove it & I have done so. > > You all can have a look at my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com > , besides I have also been member in various freelancing forums & have good > client reference , reputation. > > If you all wish to help a fellow programmer like me , just request Ben to > send us what project I worked that had the issues as he said. To the best of > my knowledge I don't think there shud be such projects , but if there were > some issues the client would have got resolved it with me , they would'nt > speak bad abt me to a third party code auditor like Ben (because all the > clients I have worked were very genuine , pleasant & helpfull in nature). > > Pls guys never think bad & have a negative impression abt me, due to Ben's > posting , though I'm not located in US , I do work with clients based at US > / UK etc,.. > > 510.455.4387 this is my US skypein number , you can call me in this number > if you have issues with this post. > > I wonder why Ben has posted such critics abt my thread publicly on this > forum. > > Anyway lets wait for a good solution. > > --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Sean Fulton wrote: > > From: Sean Fulton > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs > ofexp & good client references > To: "Andrew Wint" > Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 9:55 PM > > I disagree. This wasn't a former employer complaining about a consultant's > work, this was another consultant, a competitor if you will, stating as fact > something that no one can possibly double-check. I think it's unfair, and am > surprised that, on a list dedicated to helping consultants find jobs, you > folks would not be more concerned about it. I think this is the first time I > have seen someone in a public forum accuse someone of something and not be > called to provide proof of their claims. Very puzzling. > > No one knows what the job requirements were, what the client's expectations > were, or what the budget was. Did the client provide enough time and budget > to have the job done right, or did they just say, "Get it done for next to > nothing," and then when they realized the short-sidedness of their approach, > hire Ben to clean up the mess rather than go back to the developer they > low-balled and admit that they didn't give him enough time and $$ to do the > job correctly. We don't know. Ben won't even tell the list who the client > was or produce evidence of the inferior work. So to my mind, this whole > thread is quite unfair to the developer who originally posted his > availability and should be dropped. > > Finally, as you read this, please keep in mind that we are a company that > employs people on this list, that's why I subscribe. I have employed > developers here in the US and in six other countries. I find *no* > geo-political differences in coding skills. We evaluate developers based on > samples, client references and their ability to follow directions. I have > had more than a few developers who are so focused on developing "great code" > that they completely ignore the project specs, budget and time-lines. Those > people don't last long, but people who follow directions do. > > Again, without knowing the original assignment that Sundar was given and > what went on between he and the client at that time, facts which I doubt > even Ben knows, we really can't draw any useful conclusions nor should we > try. > > Just my $.02. > > sean > > > > > Andrew Wint wrote: > > All he did was to provide transparency, now we are discussing the issues. > Kristina gave very valid points about the 'delivery of crappy code' and not > being able to take action because they are in another country. > Another point is that this why we have standards of development practices, > these standards shouldn't be compromised they can bend a bit but not break. > Sundar needs to seek them out and adhere to them. > I know it may seem harsh but it may help Sundar down the line in his growth. > As well as protect a small struggling company, thinking they are saving > money but falling into a trap. > Ben did a good thing. > > > > > On Aug 9, 2008, at 10:50 AM, RDP wrote: > > I'm sorry Donna, but I disagree. > > It's perfectly fine to express a view about someone's work. > > Of course we make errors in our code, everybody does. But you can't > evaluate experience without examining ones work. > > And employers DO give out this information. Especially if an individual was > let go because of inability. > > Finally, I'm having a problem imagining rows of unemployed PHP coders down > and out on skid-row in cardboard boxes, homeless, because their work was > criticized. > > Bye, > > Rob > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Donna Marie Vincent > To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:26 AM > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs > ofexp & good client references > It's not only unethical to publicly disparage an individual's ability to > perform a job, you could be subject to legal action. > > Have you ever made an error while performing your job duties? > > Even a former employer would not give out this type of information. Do you > want to be responsible for someone not getting work, and ending up homeless > on the street, because of your personal opinion about their work, which may > or may not be valid? > > This is not the same as publicly criticizing a particular product, or a > company's business practice. > > > > --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro wrote: > > From: Ben Sgro > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs > of exp & good client references > To: > Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM > > Hey, > > I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL injection, > XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc. > > Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and paste, no > functions. No layouts, templates or > smarty. > Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates. > > Be sure to request some source before you work with him. > > - Ben > > sundar rajan wrote: >> >> Hi > , >> >> >> I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ yrs >> of experience in building web applications . >> >> >> Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take: >> /Creating Custom scripts >> Member signup with email verification & login with session > authentication >> Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using FPDF >> libraries >> Command line processing of PHP scripts >> Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms >> Google Maps API to display a location with > >> pop-up > info >> XML parsing to database >> CSV parsing to database >> RSS feeds using Carp >> Handling File uploads >> Generating statistics reports from the database values >> Generating Graphical reports from the database values >> Generating Excel download from the database > values >> Working with complex queries in Mysql console >> Building application with SEO friendly URLs >> Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in >> linux boxes >> / >> I can also take up bigger projects with proper specification documents >> along with the UI/HTML prototypes. >> >> >> Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com >> to know more about my skill-set , >> experiences , projects as > well as client references. >> >> As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 seller >> reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments. >> >> Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs. >> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> Sundar >> Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387 >> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > ________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > ________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > -- > Sean Fulton > GCN Publishing, Inc. > Internet Design, Development and Consulting For Today's Media Companies > http://www.gcnpublishing.com > (203) 665-6211, x203 > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -- Guilherme Blanco - Web Developer CBC - Certified Bindows Consultant Cell Phone: +55 (16) 9166-6902 MSN: guilhermeblanco at hotmail.com URL: http://blog.bisna.com Rio de Janeiro - RJ/Brazil From smanes at magpie.com Sat Aug 9 15:20:38 2008 From: smanes at magpie.com (Steve Manes) Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:20:38 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs In-Reply-To: <1218303041.19517@coral.he.net> References: <1218303041.19517@coral.he.net> Message-ID: <489DEE06.4090801@magpie.com> Kristina Anderson wrote: > There are some on this list who've previously said that "the market" > will take care of situations where people want to pay low wages to > programmers. One of the ways that "the market" might do this, > theoretically, is to make sure that people find out the hard way, when > they hire cheap programmers I'm just not sure that's a lesson that can be learned by singling out one programmer for critical review. Anyone who's been in this business for a few years has heard the nightmare outsourcing stories and knows that the market for software talent works pretty much the same as it does buying a TV or a hamburger: caveat emptor. If they choose to ignore it, well, that's who lottery tickets are made for. From bob.gulian at verizon.net Sat Aug 9 15:55:29 2008 From: bob.gulian at verizon.net (Robert Gulian) Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:55:29 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs of exp & good client references In-Reply-To: <2E817DE3-19CB-456D-8F0A-2E290D246ECE@projectskyline.com> References: <454260.65614.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2E817DE3-19CB-456D-8F0A-2E290D246ECE@projectskyline.com> Message-ID: Ben, Your .02$ may backfire on you. You may have an obligation to your client to report your opinion but you have an obligation not to report it to the world at large. I believe it was a bad judgement on your part and if enough people feel likewise, it may be you who loses work over it. Just my .02$. Bob On Aug 9, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Ben Sgro wrote: > It's my .02$. People are free to make their own decision. > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 9, 2008, at 9:26 AM, Donna Marie Vincent > wrote: > >> It's not only unethical to publicly disparage an individual's >> ability to perform a job, you could be subject to legal action. >> >> Have you ever made an error while performing your job duties? >> >> Even a former employer would not give out this type of >> information. Do you want to be responsible for someone not getting >> work, and ending up homeless on the street, because of your >> personal opinion about their work, which may or may not be valid? >> >> This is not the same as publicly criticizing a particular product, >> or a company's business practice. >> >> >> >> --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro wrote: >> From: Ben Sgro >> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about >> 5+ yrs of exp & good client references >> To: >> Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org >> Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM >> >> Hey, >> >> I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL >> injection, >> XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc. >> >> Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and >> paste, no >> functions. No layouts, templates or >> smarty. >> Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates. >> >> Be sure to request some source before you work with him. >> >> - Ben >> >> sundar rajan wrote: >> > >> > Hi >> , >> > >> > >> > I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ >> yrs >> > of experience in building web applications . >> > >> > >> > Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take: >> > /Creating Custom scripts >> > Member signup with email verification & login with session >> authentication >> > Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using >> FPDF >> > libraries >> > Command line processing of PHP scripts >> > Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms >> > Google Maps API to display a location >> with >> >> > pop-up >> info >> > XML parsing to database >> > CSV parsing to database >> > RSS feeds using Carp >> > Handling File uploads >> > Generating statistics reports from the database values >> > Generating Graphical reports from the database values >> > Generating Excel download from the database >> values >> > Working with complex queries in Mysql console >> > Building application with SEO friendly URLs >> > Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in >> > linux boxes >> > / >> > I can also take up bigger projects with proper specification >> documents >> > along with the UI/HTML prototypes. >> > >> > >> > Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com >> > to know more about my skill-set , >> > experiences , projects as >> well as client references. >> > >> > As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 seller >> > reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments. >> > >> > Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs. >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > With regards, >> > Sundar >> > Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387 >> > >> > >> > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> > >> > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> > http://www.nyphpcon.com >> > >> > Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jontas at gmail.com Sat Aug 9 16:03:49 2008 From: jontas at gmail.com (Jon Tascher) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 16:03:49 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Re: Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs of exp & Message-ID: <37728ee0808091303k67e541d9id07fe08de412fb63@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I just wanted to point out that price does not directly correlate to quality. Although more experienced programmers who (presumably) produce better code will often charge more, this is not always the case and certainly does not translate to the overseas market. I am sure there are many excellent and qualified foreign programmers who are able to charge less than American programmers due to the differences in cost of life. That is the usually a reason for outsourcing overseas. Just because someone is cheap(er) does not necessarily imply inexperience or poor skills. Jon Tascher On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 3:57 PM, wrote: > Send jobs mailing list submissions to > jobs at lists.nyphp.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > jobs-request at lists.nyphp.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > jobs-owner at lists.nyphp.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of jobs digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Important Info & Request to all members in this forum abt > my initial pos (Guilherme Blanco) > 2. Re: Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs (Steve Manes) > 3. Re: Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs of exp & > good client references (Robert Gulian) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 16:09:25 -0300 > From: "Guilherme Blanco" > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Important Info & Request to all members in > this forum abt my initial pos > To: c_sundar_2k1 at yahoo.co.in > Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Actually it seems Ben did it wrong. > > None here born with all knowledge, and surely they improved their > skills by working hard to improve themselves while reading, > researching and experimenting. > So, none here has enough words to point a finger on someone else's > face, talk about skills, etc. > > You pay for your code and if you want to pay less, your code will be > less secure, organized, implemented. > That's what differ senior, junior, etc and also good and bad programmers. > I'll never put my money into a 15yrs. old boy that tells me that knows > PHP, since I know I have a great chance to have holes in my code. > > Short version: The amount of money you pay is the code art equivalent you > have. > > > Regards, > > On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 3:47 PM, sundar rajan > wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > Thanks for all the criticism to my post & the reply sent by Ben. > > > > Actually I never know who this guys Ben is , I have never worked with him > > before & ofcourse he is not my client too. > > > > I have been in this freelancing profession for abt 3+ yrs & never got > such > > criticism from my clients , though I had troubles / faults in the project > > that I work with my clients , they use to tell me the changes & I do make > > sure to deliver those changes as per the client's requests. > > > > I never leave my clients in trouble with frustration , even though if I > do > > some mistakes I do admit to my clients & they give me a chance to work on > it > > & prove it & I have done so. > > > > You all can have a look at my online portfolio at > http://www.sundarrajan.com > > , besides I have also been member in various freelancing forums & have > good > > client reference , reputation. > > > > If you all wish to help a fellow programmer like me , just request Ben to > > send us what project I worked that had the issues as he said. To the best > of > > my knowledge I don't think there shud be such projects , but if there > were > > some issues the client would have got resolved it with me , they would'nt > > speak bad abt me to a third party code auditor like Ben (because all the > > clients I have worked were very genuine , pleasant & helpfull in nature). > > > > Pls guys never think bad & have a negative impression abt me, due to > Ben's > > posting , though I'm not located in US , I do work with clients based at > US > > / UK etc,.. > > > > 510.455.4387 this is my US skypein number , you can call me in this > number > > if you have issues with this post. > > > > I wonder why Ben has posted such critics abt my thread publicly on this > > forum. > > > > Anyway lets wait for a good solution. > > > > --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Sean Fulton wrote: > > > > From: Sean Fulton > > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ > yrs > > ofexp & good client references > > To: "Andrew Wint" > > Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > > Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 9:55 PM > > > > I disagree. This wasn't a former employer complaining about a > consultant's > > work, this was another consultant, a competitor if you will, stating as > fact > > something that no one can possibly double-check. I think it's unfair, and > am > > surprised that, on a list dedicated to helping consultants find jobs, you > > folks would not be more concerned about it. I think this is the first > time I > > have seen someone in a public forum accuse someone of something and not > be > > called to provide proof of their claims. Very puzzling. > > > > No one knows what the job requirements were, what the client's > expectations > > were, or what the budget was. Did the client provide enough time and > budget > > to have the job done right, or did they just say, "Get it done for next > to > > nothing," and then when they realized the short-sidedness of their > approach, > > hire Ben to clean up the mess rather than go back to the developer they > > low-balled and admit that they didn't give him enough time and $$ to do > the > > job correctly. We don't know. Ben won't even tell the list who the client > > was or produce evidence of the inferior work. So to my mind, this whole > > thread is quite unfair to the developer who originally posted his > > availability and should be dropped. > > > > Finally, as you read this, please keep in mind that we are a company that > > employs people on this list, that's why I subscribe. I have employed > > developers here in the US and in six other countries. I find *no* > > geo-political differences in coding skills. We evaluate developers based > on > > samples, client references and their ability to follow directions. I have > > had more than a few developers who are so focused on developing "great > code" > > that they completely ignore the project specs, budget and time-lines. > Those > > people don't last long, but people who follow directions do. > > > > Again, without knowing the original assignment that Sundar was given and > > what went on between he and the client at that time, facts which I doubt > > even Ben knows, we really can't draw any useful conclusions nor should we > > try. > > > > Just my $.02. > > > > sean > > > > > > > > > > Andrew Wint wrote: > > > > All he did was to provide transparency, now we are discussing the issues. > > Kristina gave very valid points about the 'delivery of crappy code' and > not > > being able to take action because they are in another country. > > Another point is that this why we have standards of development > practices, > > these standards shouldn't be compromised they can bend a bit but not > break. > > Sundar needs to seek them out and adhere to them. > > I know it may seem harsh but it may help Sundar down the line in his > growth. > > As well as protect a small struggling company, thinking they are saving > > money but falling into a trap. > > Ben did a good thing. > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 9, 2008, at 10:50 AM, RDP wrote: > > > > I'm sorry Donna, but I disagree. > > > > It's perfectly fine to express a view about someone's work. > > > > Of course we make errors in our code, everybody does. But you can't > > evaluate experience without examining ones work. > > > > And employers DO give out this information. Especially if an individual > was > > let go because of inability. > > > > Finally, I'm having a problem imagining rows of unemployed PHP coders > down > > and out on skid-row in cardboard boxes, homeless, because their work was > > criticized. > > > > Bye, > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Donna Marie Vincent > > To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:26 AM > > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ > yrs > > ofexp & good client references > > It's not only unethical to publicly disparage an individual's ability to > > perform a job, you could be subject to legal action. > > > > Have you ever made an error while performing your job duties? > > > > Even a former employer would not give out this type of information. Do > you > > want to be responsible for someone not getting work, and ending up > homeless > > on the street, because of your personal opinion about their work, which > may > > or may not be valid? > > > > This is not the same as publicly criticizing a particular product, or a > > company's business practice. > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro wrote: > > > > From: Ben Sgro > > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ > yrs > > of exp & good client references > > To: > > Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > > Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM > > > > Hey, > > > > I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL injection, > > XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc. > > > > Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and paste, no > > functions. No layouts, templates or > > smarty. > > Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates. > > > > Be sure to request some source before you work with him. > > > > - Ben > > > > sundar rajan wrote: > >> > >> Hi > > , > >> > >> > >> I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ yrs > >> of experience in building web applications . > >> > >> > >> Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take: > >> /Creating Custom scripts > >> Member signup with email verification & login with session > > authentication > >> Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using FPDF > >> libraries > >> Command line processing of PHP scripts > >> Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms > >> Google Maps API to display a location with > > > >> pop-up > > info > >> XML parsing to database > >> CSV parsing to database > >> RSS feeds using Carp > >> Handling File uploads > >> Generating statistics reports from the database values > >> Generating Graphical reports from the database values > >> Generating Excel download from the database > > values > >> Working with complex queries in Mysql console > >> Building application with SEO friendly URLs > >> Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in > >> linux boxes > >> / > >> I can also take up bigger projects with proper specification documents > >> along with the UI/HTML prototypes. > >> > >> > >> Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com > >> to know more about my skill-set , > >> experiences , projects as > > well as client references. > >> > >> As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 seller > >> reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments. > >> > >> Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> With regards, > >> Sundar > >> Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387 > >> > >> > >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > >> > >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > >> http://www.nyphpcon.com > >> > >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP > >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > > > ________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > ________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > -- > > Sean Fulton > > GCN Publishing, Inc. > > Internet Design, Development and Consulting For Today's Media Companies > > http://www.gcnpublishing.com > > (203) 665-6211, x203 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > > > -- > Guilherme Blanco - Web Developer > CBC - Certified Bindows Consultant > Cell Phone: +55 (16) 9166-6902 > MSN: guilhermeblanco at hotmail.com > URL: http://blog.bisna.com > Rio de Janeiro - RJ/Brazil > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:20:38 -0400 > From: Steve Manes > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ > yrs > To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Message-ID: <489DEE06.4090801 at magpie.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Kristina Anderson wrote: > > There are some on this list who've previously said that "the market" > > will take care of situations where people want to pay low wages to > > programmers. One of the ways that "the market" might do this, > > theoretically, is to make sure that people find out the hard way, when > > they hire cheap programmers > > I'm just not sure that's a lesson that can be learned by singling out > one programmer for critical review. Anyone who's been in this business > for a few years has heard the nightmare outsourcing stories and knows > that the market for software talent works pretty much the same as it > does buying a TV or a hamburger: caveat emptor. If they choose to > ignore it, well, that's who lottery tickets are made for. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:55:29 -0400 > From: Robert Gulian > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ > yrs of exp & good client references > To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Ben, > > Your .02$ may backfire on you. You may have an obligation to your > client to report your opinion but you have an obligation not to report > it to the world at large. I believe it was a bad judgement on your > part and if enough people feel likewise, it may be you who loses work > over it. > > Just my .02$. > > Bob > > On Aug 9, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Ben Sgro wrote: > > > It's my .02$. People are free to make their own decision. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Aug 9, 2008, at 9:26 AM, Donna Marie Vincent < > donnamarievincent at yahoo.com > > > wrote: > > > >> It's not only unethical to publicly disparage an individual's > >> ability to perform a job, you could be subject to legal action. > >> > >> Have you ever made an error while performing your job duties? > >> > >> Even a former employer would not give out this type of > >> information. Do you want to be responsible for someone not getting > >> work, and ending up homeless on the street, because of your > >> personal opinion about their work, which may or may not be valid? > >> > >> This is not the same as publicly criticizing a particular product, > >> or a company's business practice. > >> > >> > >> > >> --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro wrote: > >> From: Ben Sgro > >> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about > >> 5+ yrs of exp & good client references > >> To: > >> Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > >> Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM > >> > >> Hey, > >> > >> I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL > >> injection, > >> XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc. > >> > >> Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and > >> paste, no > >> functions. No layouts, templates or > >> smarty. > >> Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates. > >> > >> Be sure to request some source before you work with him. > >> > >> - Ben > >> > >> sundar rajan wrote: > >> > > >> > Hi > >> , > >> > > >> > > >> > I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ > >> yrs > >> > of experience in building web applications . > >> > > >> > > >> > Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take: > >> > /Creating Custom scripts > >> > Member signup with email verification & login with session > >> authentication > >> > Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using > >> FPDF > >> > libraries > >> > Command line processing of PHP scripts > >> > Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms > >> > Google Maps API to display a location > >> with > >> > >> > pop-up > >> info > >> > XML parsing to database > >> > CSV parsing to database > >> > RSS feeds using Carp > >> > Handling File uploads > >> > Generating statistics reports from the database values > >> > Generating Graphical reports from the database values > >> > Generating Excel download from the database > >> values > >> > Working with complex queries in Mysql console > >> > Building application with SEO friendly URLs > >> > Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in > >> > linux boxes > >> > / > >> > I can also take up bigger projects with proper specification > >> documents > >> > along with the UI/HTML prototypes. > >> > > >> > > >> > Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com > >> > to know more about my skill-set , > >> > experiences , projects as > >> well as client references. > >> > > >> > As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 seller > >> > reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments. > >> > > >> > Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > With regards, > >> > Sundar > >> > Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > >> > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > >> > > >> > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > >> > http://www.nyphpcon.com > >> > > >> > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > >> > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > >> _______________________________________________ > >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > >> > >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > >> http://www.nyphpcon.com > >> > >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP > >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > >> > >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > >> http://www.nyphpcon.com > >> > >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP > >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.lists.nyphp.org/pipermail/jobs/attachments/20080809/6f329641/attachment.html > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > jobs mailing list > jobs at lists.nyphp.org > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > End of jobs Digest, Vol 22, Issue 14 > ************************************ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From guilhermeblanco at gmail.com Sat Aug 9 16:08:06 2008 From: guilhermeblanco at gmail.com (Guilherme Blanco) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 17:08:06 -0300 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Re: Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs of exp & In-Reply-To: <37728ee0808091303k67e541d9id07fe08de412fb63@mail.gmail.com> References: <37728ee0808091303k67e541d9id07fe08de412fb63@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: And I agree. I generalized a bit. Here in my country (Brazil) for example.... my current income is 3x more than the average of the country, but it's around 70% of the price of an American programmer with the same skills. Cheers, On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Jon Tascher wrote: > Hi, > I just wanted to point out that price does not directly correlate to > quality. Although more experienced programmers who (presumably) produce > better code will often charge more, this is not always the case and > certainly does not translate to the overseas market. I am sure there are > many excellent and qualified foreign programmers who are able to charge less > than American programmers due to the differences in cost of life. That is > the usually a reason for outsourcing overseas. Just because someone is > cheap(er) does not necessarily imply inexperience or poor skills. > Jon Tascher > > On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 3:57 PM, wrote: >> >> Send jobs mailing list submissions to >> jobs at lists.nyphp.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> jobs-request at lists.nyphp.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> jobs-owner at lists.nyphp.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of jobs digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Important Info & Request to all members in this forum abt >> my initial pos (Guilherme Blanco) >> 2. Re: Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs (Steve Manes) >> 3. Re: Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs of exp & >> good client references (Robert Gulian) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 16:09:25 -0300 >> From: "Guilherme Blanco" >> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Important Info & Request to all members in >> this forum abt my initial pos >> To: c_sundar_2k1 at yahoo.co.in >> Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> Actually it seems Ben did it wrong. >> >> None here born with all knowledge, and surely they improved their >> skills by working hard to improve themselves while reading, >> researching and experimenting. >> So, none here has enough words to point a finger on someone else's >> face, talk about skills, etc. >> >> You pay for your code and if you want to pay less, your code will be >> less secure, organized, implemented. >> That's what differ senior, junior, etc and also good and bad programmers. >> I'll never put my money into a 15yrs. old boy that tells me that knows >> PHP, since I know I have a great chance to have holes in my code. >> >> Short version: The amount of money you pay is the code art equivalent you >> have. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 3:47 PM, sundar rajan >> wrote: >> > Hi All, >> > >> > Thanks for all the criticism to my post & the reply sent by Ben. >> > >> > Actually I never know who this guys Ben is , I have never worked with >> > him >> > before & ofcourse he is not my client too. >> > >> > I have been in this freelancing profession for abt 3+ yrs & never got >> > such >> > criticism from my clients , though I had troubles / faults in the >> > project >> > that I work with my clients , they use to tell me the changes & I do >> > make >> > sure to deliver those changes as per the client's requests. >> > >> > I never leave my clients in trouble with frustration , even though if I >> > do >> > some mistakes I do admit to my clients & they give me a chance to work >> > on it >> > & prove it & I have done so. >> > >> > You all can have a look at my online portfolio at >> > http://www.sundarrajan.com >> > , besides I have also been member in various freelancing forums & have >> > good >> > client reference , reputation. >> > >> > If you all wish to help a fellow programmer like me , just request Ben >> > to >> > send us what project I worked that had the issues as he said. To the >> > best of >> > my knowledge I don't think there shud be such projects , but if there >> > were >> > some issues the client would have got resolved it with me , they >> > would'nt >> > speak bad abt me to a third party code auditor like Ben (because all the >> > clients I have worked were very genuine , pleasant & helpfull in >> > nature). >> > >> > Pls guys never think bad & have a negative impression abt me, due to >> > Ben's >> > posting , though I'm not located in US , I do work with clients based at >> > US >> > / UK etc,.. >> > >> > 510.455.4387 this is my US skypein number , you can call me in this >> > number >> > if you have issues with this post. >> > >> > I wonder why Ben has posted such critics abt my thread publicly on this >> > forum. >> > >> > Anyway lets wait for a good solution. >> > >> > --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Sean Fulton wrote: >> > >> > From: Sean Fulton >> > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ >> > yrs >> > ofexp & good client references >> > To: "Andrew Wint" >> > Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org >> > Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 9:55 PM >> > >> > I disagree. This wasn't a former employer complaining about a >> > consultant's >> > work, this was another consultant, a competitor if you will, stating as >> > fact >> > something that no one can possibly double-check. I think it's unfair, >> > and am >> > surprised that, on a list dedicated to helping consultants find jobs, >> > you >> > folks would not be more concerned about it. I think this is the first >> > time I >> > have seen someone in a public forum accuse someone of something and not >> > be >> > called to provide proof of their claims. Very puzzling. >> > >> > No one knows what the job requirements were, what the client's >> > expectations >> > were, or what the budget was. Did the client provide enough time and >> > budget >> > to have the job done right, or did they just say, "Get it done for next >> > to >> > nothing," and then when they realized the short-sidedness of their >> > approach, >> > hire Ben to clean up the mess rather than go back to the developer they >> > low-balled and admit that they didn't give him enough time and $$ to do >> > the >> > job correctly. We don't know. Ben won't even tell the list who the >> > client >> > was or produce evidence of the inferior work. So to my mind, this whole >> > thread is quite unfair to the developer who originally posted his >> > availability and should be dropped. >> > >> > Finally, as you read this, please keep in mind that we are a company >> > that >> > employs people on this list, that's why I subscribe. I have employed >> > developers here in the US and in six other countries. I find *no* >> > geo-political differences in coding skills. We evaluate developers based >> > on >> > samples, client references and their ability to follow directions. I >> > have >> > had more than a few developers who are so focused on developing "great >> > code" >> > that they completely ignore the project specs, budget and time-lines. >> > Those >> > people don't last long, but people who follow directions do. >> > >> > Again, without knowing the original assignment that Sundar was given and >> > what went on between he and the client at that time, facts which I doubt >> > even Ben knows, we really can't draw any useful conclusions nor should >> > we >> > try. >> > >> > Just my $.02. >> > >> > sean >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Andrew Wint wrote: >> > >> > All he did was to provide transparency, now we are discussing the >> > issues. >> > Kristina gave very valid points about the 'delivery of crappy code' and >> > not >> > being able to take action because they are in another country. >> > Another point is that this why we have standards of development >> > practices, >> > these standards shouldn't be compromised they can bend a bit but not >> > break. >> > Sundar needs to seek them out and adhere to them. >> > I know it may seem harsh but it may help Sundar down the line in his >> > growth. >> > As well as protect a small struggling company, thinking they are saving >> > money but falling into a trap. >> > Ben did a good thing. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Aug 9, 2008, at 10:50 AM, RDP wrote: >> > >> > I'm sorry Donna, but I disagree. >> > >> > It's perfectly fine to express a view about someone's work. >> > >> > Of course we make errors in our code, everybody does. But you can't >> > evaluate experience without examining ones work. >> > >> > And employers DO give out this information. Especially if an individual >> > was >> > let go because of inability. >> > >> > Finally, I'm having a problem imagining rows of unemployed PHP coders >> > down >> > and out on skid-row in cardboard boxes, homeless, because their work was >> > criticized. >> > >> > Bye, >> > >> > Rob >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Donna Marie Vincent >> > To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org >> > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:26 AM >> > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ >> > yrs >> > ofexp & good client references >> > It's not only unethical to publicly disparage an individual's ability to >> > perform a job, you could be subject to legal action. >> > >> > Have you ever made an error while performing your job duties? >> > >> > Even a former employer would not give out this type of information. Do >> > you >> > want to be responsible for someone not getting work, and ending up >> > homeless >> > on the street, because of your personal opinion about their work, which >> > may >> > or may not be valid? >> > >> > This is not the same as publicly criticizing a particular product, or a >> > company's business practice. >> > >> > >> > >> > --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro wrote: >> > >> > From: Ben Sgro >> > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ >> > yrs >> > of exp & good client references >> > To: >> > Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org >> > Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM >> > >> > Hey, >> > >> > I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL injection, >> > XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc. >> > >> > Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and paste, no >> > functions. No layouts, templates or >> > smarty. >> > Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates. >> > >> > Be sure to request some source before you work with him. >> > >> > - Ben >> > >> > sundar rajan wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi >> > , >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ yrs >> >> of experience in building web applications . >> >> >> >> >> >> Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take: >> >> /Creating Custom scripts >> >> Member signup with email verification & login with session >> > authentication >> >> Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using FPDF >> >> libraries >> >> Command line processing of PHP scripts >> >> Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms >> >> Google Maps API to display a location with >> > >> >> pop-up >> > info >> >> XML parsing to database >> >> CSV parsing to database >> >> RSS feeds using Carp >> >> Handling File uploads >> >> Generating statistics reports from the database values >> >> Generating Graphical reports from the database values >> >> Generating Excel download from the database >> > values >> >> Working with complex queries in Mysql console >> >> Building application with SEO friendly URLs >> >> Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in >> >> linux boxes >> >> / >> >> I can also take up bigger projects with proper specification documents >> >> along with the UI/HTML prototypes. >> >> >> >> >> >> Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com >> >> to know more about my skill-set , >> >> experiences , projects as >> > well as client references. >> >> >> >> As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 seller >> >> reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments. >> >> >> >> Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> With regards, >> >> Sundar >> >> Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> >> >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> > _______________________________________________ >> > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> > >> > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> > http://www.nyphpcon.com >> > >> > Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > _______________________________________________ >> > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> > >> > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> > http://www.nyphpcon.com >> > >> > Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> > >> > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> > http://www.nyphpcon.com >> > >> > Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > _______________________________________________ >> > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> > >> > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> > http://www.nyphpcon.com >> > >> > Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> > >> > -- >> > Sean Fulton >> > GCN Publishing, Inc. >> > Internet Design, Development and Consulting For Today's Media Companies >> > http://www.gcnpublishing.com >> > (203) 665-6211, x203 >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> > >> > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> > http://www.nyphpcon.com >> > >> > Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> > >> > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> > http://www.nyphpcon.com >> > >> > Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Guilherme Blanco - Web Developer >> CBC - Certified Bindows Consultant >> Cell Phone: +55 (16) 9166-6902 >> MSN: guilhermeblanco at hotmail.com >> URL: http://blog.bisna.com >> Rio de Janeiro - RJ/Brazil >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:20:38 -0400 >> From: Steve Manes >> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ >> yrs >> To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org >> Message-ID: <489DEE06.4090801 at magpie.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Kristina Anderson wrote: >> > There are some on this list who've previously said that "the market" >> > will take care of situations where people want to pay low wages to >> > programmers. One of the ways that "the market" might do this, >> > theoretically, is to make sure that people find out the hard way, when >> > they hire cheap programmers >> >> I'm just not sure that's a lesson that can be learned by singling out >> one programmer for critical review. Anyone who's been in this business >> for a few years has heard the nightmare outsourcing stories and knows >> that the market for software talent works pretty much the same as it >> does buying a TV or a hamburger: caveat emptor. If they choose to >> ignore it, well, that's who lottery tickets are made for. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:55:29 -0400 >> From: Robert Gulian >> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ >> yrs of exp & good client references >> To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Ben, >> >> Your .02$ may backfire on you. You may have an obligation to your >> client to report your opinion but you have an obligation not to report >> it to the world at large. I believe it was a bad judgement on your >> part and if enough people feel likewise, it may be you who loses work >> over it. >> >> Just my .02$. >> >> Bob >> >> On Aug 9, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Ben Sgro wrote: >> >> > It's my .02$. People are free to make their own decision. >> > >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > On Aug 9, 2008, at 9:26 AM, Donna Marie Vincent >> > > > > wrote: >> > >> >> It's not only unethical to publicly disparage an individual's >> >> ability to perform a job, you could be subject to legal action. >> >> >> >> Have you ever made an error while performing your job duties? >> >> >> >> Even a former employer would not give out this type of >> >> information. Do you want to be responsible for someone not getting >> >> work, and ending up homeless on the street, because of your >> >> personal opinion about their work, which may or may not be valid? >> >> >> >> This is not the same as publicly criticizing a particular product, >> >> or a company's business practice. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro wrote: >> >> From: Ben Sgro >> >> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about >> >> 5+ yrs of exp & good client references >> >> To: >> >> Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org >> >> Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM >> >> >> >> Hey, >> >> >> >> I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL >> >> injection, >> >> XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc. >> >> >> >> Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and >> >> paste, no >> >> functions. No layouts, templates or >> >> smarty. >> >> Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates. >> >> >> >> Be sure to request some source before you work with him. >> >> >> >> - Ben >> >> >> >> sundar rajan wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Hi >> >> , >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ >> >> yrs >> >> > of experience in building web applications . >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take: >> >> > /Creating Custom scripts >> >> > Member signup with email verification & login with session >> >> authentication >> >> > Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using >> >> FPDF >> >> > libraries >> >> > Command line processing of PHP scripts >> >> > Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms >> >> > Google Maps API to display a location >> >> with >> >> >> >> > pop-up >> >> info >> >> > XML parsing to database >> >> > CSV parsing to database >> >> > RSS feeds using Carp >> >> > Handling File uploads >> >> > Generating statistics reports from the database values >> >> > Generating Graphical reports from the database values >> >> > Generating Excel download from the database >> >> values >> >> > Working with complex queries in Mysql console >> >> > Building application with SEO friendly URLs >> >> > Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in >> >> > linux boxes >> >> > / >> >> > I can also take up bigger projects with proper specification >> >> documents >> >> > along with the UI/HTML prototypes. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com >> >> > to know more about my skill-set , >> >> > experiences , projects as >> >> well as client references. >> >> > >> >> > As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 seller >> >> > reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments. >> >> > >> >> > Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > With regards, >> >> > Sundar >> >> > Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387 >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> >> > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> >> > >> >> > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> >> > http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> > >> >> > Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> >> > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> >> >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> >> >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> > _______________________________________________ >> > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> > >> > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> > http://www.nyphpcon.com >> > >> > Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://lists.lists.nyphp.org/pipermail/jobs/attachments/20080809/6f329641/attachment.html >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> jobs mailing list >> jobs at lists.nyphp.org >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> >> End of jobs Digest, Vol 22, Issue 14 >> ************************************ > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -- Guilherme Blanco - Web Developer CBC - Certified Bindows Consultant Cell Phone: +55 (16) 9166-6902 MSN: guilhermeblanco at hotmail.com URL: http://blog.bisna.com Rio de Janeiro - RJ/Brazil From m_rutko at yahoo.com Sat Aug 9 12:37:28 2008 From: m_rutko at yahoo.com (m_rutko at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 16:37:28 +0000 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrsof exp & good client references In-Reply-To: <489DBC75.2000800@projectskyline.com> References: <435913.83157.qm@web94807.mail.in2.yahoo.com><489DBC75.2000800@projectskyline.com> Message-ID: <2110872781-1218314459-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-669851572-@bxe202.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Ben Your email is out of order and a weak attempt to put someone's work down while making yourself feel better. Ohhhh... Ben you are such a good programmer that you exposed errors in Sundar's code. You are so cool. I might name my next child after you, but he would get beat up in the school yard with a name such as loser or geek. If you had an issue with Sundar you should of approched him directly instead of in public. Wow..what a tough cool guy you are... God forbid if we were talking about C++ then you would have really killed Sundar's rep. Good thing we are only talking about mickey mouse code. And the award goes to Ben, our cool role model player programmer. Now kiss yourself in the mirror then go bore someone else with your thoughts. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Ben Sgro Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 11:49:09 To: Cc: Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs of exp & good client references Hello, No, I can't. If the client feels they want to speak up, so be it. I believe they found you on this list. - Ben sundar rajan wrote: > Hey Ben, > > Thanks for the criticism, but before making it publicly , you should > have contacted me regarding this. > > Anyway no worries , I'm open to hear to your thoughts so that I can > rectify mistakes that I might make. > > Pls can you tell me which site you audited that I built.? > > --- On *Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro //* wrote: > > From: Ben Sgro > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with > about 5+ yrs of exp & good client references > To: > Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM > > Hey, > > I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL injection, > XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc. > > Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and paste, no > functions. No layouts, templates or smarty. > Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates. > > Be sure to request some source before you work with him. > > - Ben > > sundar rajan wrote: > > > > Hi > , > > > > > > I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ yrs > > of experience in building web applications . > > > > > > Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take: > > /Creating Custom scripts > > Member signup with email verification & login with session > authentication > > Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using FPDF > > libraries > > Command line processing of PHP scripts > > Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms > > Google Maps API to display a location with > > > pop-up info > > XML parsing to database > > CSV parsing to database > > RSS feeds using Carp > > Handling File uploads > > Generating statistics reports from the database values > > Generating Graphical reports from the database values > > Generating Excel download from the database > values > > Working with complex queries in Mysql console > > Building application with SEO friendly URLs > > Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in > > linux boxes > > / > > I can also take up bigger projects with proper specification documents > > along with the UI/HTML prototypes. > > > > > > Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com > > to know more about my skill-set , > > experiences , projects as well as client references. > > > > As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 seller > > reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments. > > > > Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs. > > > > > > > > -- > > With regards, > > Sundar > > Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387 > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php From ben at projectskyline.com Sat Aug 9 16:56:43 2008 From: ben at projectskyline.com (Ben Sgro) Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 16:56:43 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Re: Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs of exp & In-Reply-To: References: <37728ee0808091303k67e541d9id07fe08de412fb63@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <489E048B.9040604@projectskyline.com> Hello All, Many interesting points; Been trying to keep up w/them on the mobile. I did not intend to create an 'event' on the forum - just wanted to provide my opinion as observed. Someone noted that I did not go about it the correct way - I'll take that to heart. As far as everything else, I love PHP. I love the PHP community. Those that are doing it a service, I commend. Those that are doing it a disservice, I have been vocal about. Either way, its my opinion. Again, I'm not trying to create problems, though it appears I have. Next time, I will probably handle the situation a bit differently - or just say nothing at all (which is bs to me). - Ben Thanks to all the private email providing feedback. Guilherme Blanco wrote: > And I agree. > > I generalized a bit. > Here in my country (Brazil) for example.... my current income is 3x > more than the average of the country, but it's around 70% of the price > of an American programmer with the same skills. > > > Cheers, > > > On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Jon Tascher wrote: > >> Hi, >> I just wanted to point out that price does not directly correlate to >> quality. Although more experienced programmers who (presumably) produce >> better code will often charge more, this is not always the case and >> certainly does not translate to the overseas market. I am sure there are >> many excellent and qualified foreign programmers who are able to charge less >> than American programmers due to the differences in cost of life. That is >> the usually a reason for outsourcing overseas. Just because someone is >> cheap(er) does not necessarily imply inexperience or poor skills. >> Jon Tascher >> >> On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 3:57 PM, wrote: >> >>> Send jobs mailing list submissions to >>> jobs at lists.nyphp.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> jobs-request at lists.nyphp.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> jobs-owner at lists.nyphp.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of jobs digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Important Info & Request to all members in this forum abt >>> my initial pos (Guilherme Blanco) >>> 2. Re: Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs (Steve Manes) >>> 3. Re: Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs of exp & >>> good client references (Robert Gulian) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 16:09:25 -0300 >>> From: "Guilherme Blanco" >>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Important Info & Request to all members in >>> this forum abt my initial pos >>> To: c_sundar_2k1 at yahoo.co.in >>> Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >>> Actually it seems Ben did it wrong. >>> >>> None here born with all knowledge, and surely they improved their >>> skills by working hard to improve themselves while reading, >>> researching and experimenting. >>> So, none here has enough words to point a finger on someone else's >>> face, talk about skills, etc. >>> >>> You pay for your code and if you want to pay less, your code will be >>> less secure, organized, implemented. >>> That's what differ senior, junior, etc and also good and bad programmers. >>> I'll never put my money into a 15yrs. old boy that tells me that knows >>> PHP, since I know I have a great chance to have holes in my code. >>> >>> Short version: The amount of money you pay is the code art equivalent you >>> have. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 3:47 PM, sundar rajan >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> Thanks for all the criticism to my post & the reply sent by Ben. >>>> >>>> Actually I never know who this guys Ben is , I have never worked with >>>> him >>>> before & ofcourse he is not my client too. >>>> >>>> I have been in this freelancing profession for abt 3+ yrs & never got >>>> such >>>> criticism from my clients , though I had troubles / faults in the >>>> project >>>> that I work with my clients , they use to tell me the changes & I do >>>> make >>>> sure to deliver those changes as per the client's requests. >>>> >>>> I never leave my clients in trouble with frustration , even though if I >>>> do >>>> some mistakes I do admit to my clients & they give me a chance to work >>>> on it >>>> & prove it & I have done so. >>>> >>>> You all can have a look at my online portfolio at >>>> http://www.sundarrajan.com >>>> , besides I have also been member in various freelancing forums & have >>>> good >>>> client reference , reputation. >>>> >>>> If you all wish to help a fellow programmer like me , just request Ben >>>> to >>>> send us what project I worked that had the issues as he said. To the >>>> best of >>>> my knowledge I don't think there shud be such projects , but if there >>>> were >>>> some issues the client would have got resolved it with me , they >>>> would'nt >>>> speak bad abt me to a third party code auditor like Ben (because all the >>>> clients I have worked were very genuine , pleasant & helpfull in >>>> nature). >>>> >>>> Pls guys never think bad & have a negative impression abt me, due to >>>> Ben's >>>> posting , though I'm not located in US , I do work with clients based at >>>> US >>>> / UK etc,.. >>>> >>>> 510.455.4387 this is my US skypein number , you can call me in this >>>> number >>>> if you have issues with this post. >>>> >>>> I wonder why Ben has posted such critics abt my thread publicly on this >>>> forum. >>>> >>>> Anyway lets wait for a good solution. >>>> >>>> --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Sean Fulton wrote: >>>> >>>> From: Sean Fulton >>>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ >>>> yrs >>>> ofexp & good client references >>>> To: "Andrew Wint" >>>> Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org >>>> Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 9:55 PM >>>> >>>> I disagree. This wasn't a former employer complaining about a >>>> consultant's >>>> work, this was another consultant, a competitor if you will, stating as >>>> fact >>>> something that no one can possibly double-check. I think it's unfair, >>>> and am >>>> surprised that, on a list dedicated to helping consultants find jobs, >>>> you >>>> folks would not be more concerned about it. I think this is the first >>>> time I >>>> have seen someone in a public forum accuse someone of something and not >>>> be >>>> called to provide proof of their claims. Very puzzling. >>>> >>>> No one knows what the job requirements were, what the client's >>>> expectations >>>> were, or what the budget was. Did the client provide enough time and >>>> budget >>>> to have the job done right, or did they just say, "Get it done for next >>>> to >>>> nothing," and then when they realized the short-sidedness of their >>>> approach, >>>> hire Ben to clean up the mess rather than go back to the developer they >>>> low-balled and admit that they didn't give him enough time and $$ to do >>>> the >>>> job correctly. We don't know. Ben won't even tell the list who the >>>> client >>>> was or produce evidence of the inferior work. So to my mind, this whole >>>> thread is quite unfair to the developer who originally posted his >>>> availability and should be dropped. >>>> >>>> Finally, as you read this, please keep in mind that we are a company >>>> that >>>> employs people on this list, that's why I subscribe. I have employed >>>> developers here in the US and in six other countries. I find *no* >>>> geo-political differences in coding skills. We evaluate developers based >>>> on >>>> samples, client references and their ability to follow directions. I >>>> have >>>> had more than a few developers who are so focused on developing "great >>>> code" >>>> that they completely ignore the project specs, budget and time-lines. >>>> Those >>>> people don't last long, but people who follow directions do. >>>> >>>> Again, without knowing the original assignment that Sundar was given and >>>> what went on between he and the client at that time, facts which I doubt >>>> even Ben knows, we really can't draw any useful conclusions nor should >>>> we >>>> try. >>>> >>>> Just my $.02. >>>> >>>> sean >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Andrew Wint wrote: >>>> >>>> All he did was to provide transparency, now we are discussing the >>>> issues. >>>> Kristina gave very valid points about the 'delivery of crappy code' and >>>> not >>>> being able to take action because they are in another country. >>>> Another point is that this why we have standards of development >>>> practices, >>>> these standards shouldn't be compromised they can bend a bit but not >>>> break. >>>> Sundar needs to seek them out and adhere to them. >>>> I know it may seem harsh but it may help Sundar down the line in his >>>> growth. >>>> As well as protect a small struggling company, thinking they are saving >>>> money but falling into a trap. >>>> Ben did a good thing. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Aug 9, 2008, at 10:50 AM, RDP wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm sorry Donna, but I disagree. >>>> >>>> It's perfectly fine to express a view about someone's work. >>>> >>>> Of course we make errors in our code, everybody does. But you can't >>>> evaluate experience without examining ones work. >>>> >>>> And employers DO give out this information. Especially if an individual >>>> was >>>> let go because of inability. >>>> >>>> Finally, I'm having a problem imagining rows of unemployed PHP coders >>>> down >>>> and out on skid-row in cardboard boxes, homeless, because their work was >>>> criticized. >>>> >>>> Bye, >>>> >>>> Rob >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Donna Marie Vincent >>>> To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org >>>> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:26 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ >>>> yrs >>>> ofexp & good client references >>>> It's not only unethical to publicly disparage an individual's ability to >>>> perform a job, you could be subject to legal action. >>>> >>>> Have you ever made an error while performing your job duties? >>>> >>>> Even a former employer would not give out this type of information. Do >>>> you >>>> want to be responsible for someone not getting work, and ending up >>>> homeless >>>> on the street, because of your personal opinion about their work, which >>>> may >>>> or may not be valid? >>>> >>>> This is not the same as publicly criticizing a particular product, or a >>>> company's business practice. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro wrote: >>>> >>>> From: Ben Sgro >>>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ >>>> yrs >>>> of exp & good client references >>>> To: >>>> Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org >>>> Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM >>>> >>>> Hey, >>>> >>>> I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL injection, >>>> XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc. >>>> >>>> Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and paste, no >>>> functions. No layouts, templates or >>>> smarty. >>>> Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates. >>>> >>>> Be sure to request some source before you work with him. >>>> >>>> - Ben >>>> >>>> sundar rajan wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>> , >>>> >>>>> I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ yrs >>>>> of experience in building web applications . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take: >>>>> /Creating Custom scripts >>>>> Member signup with email verification & login with session >>>>> >>>> authentication >>>> >>>>> Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using FPDF >>>>> libraries >>>>> Command line processing of PHP scripts >>>>> Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms >>>>> Google Maps API to display a location with >>>>> >>>>> pop-up >>>>> >>>> info >>>> >>>>> XML parsing to database >>>>> CSV parsing to database >>>>> RSS feeds using Carp >>>>> Handling File uploads >>>>> Generating statistics reports from the database values >>>>> Generating Graphical reports from the database values >>>>> Generating Excel download from the database >>>>> >>>> values >>>> >>>>> Working with complex queries in Mysql console >>>>> Building application with SEO friendly URLs >>>>> Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in >>>>> linux boxes >>>>> / >>>>> I can also take up bigger projects with proper specification documents >>>>> along with the UI/HTML prototypes. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com >>>>> to know more about my skill-set , >>>>> experiences , projects as >>>>> >>>> well as client references. >>>> >>>>> As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 seller >>>>> reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments. >>>>> >>>>> Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> Sundar >>>>> Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>>>> >>>>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>>>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>>>> >>>>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>>>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>>> >>>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>>> >>>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>>> >>>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>>> >>>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>>> >>>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>>> >>>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>>> >>>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>>> >>>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sean Fulton >>>> GCN Publishing, Inc. >>>> Internet Design, Development and Consulting For Today's Media Companies >>>> http://www.gcnpublishing.com >>>> (203) 665-6211, x203 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>>> >>>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>>> >>>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>>> >>>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>>> >>>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Guilherme Blanco - Web Developer >>> CBC - Certified Bindows Consultant >>> Cell Phone: +55 (16) 9166-6902 >>> MSN: guilhermeblanco at hotmail.com >>> URL: http://blog.bisna.com >>> Rio de Janeiro - RJ/Brazil >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:20:38 -0400 >>> From: Steve Manes >>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ >>> yrs >>> To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org >>> Message-ID: <489DEE06.4090801 at magpie.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >>> >>> Kristina Anderson wrote: >>> >>>> There are some on this list who've previously said that "the market" >>>> will take care of situations where people want to pay low wages to >>>> programmers. One of the ways that "the market" might do this, >>>> theoretically, is to make sure that people find out the hard way, when >>>> they hire cheap programmers >>>> >>> I'm just not sure that's a lesson that can be learned by singling out >>> one programmer for critical review. Anyone who's been in this business >>> for a few years has heard the nightmare outsourcing stories and knows >>> that the market for software talent works pretty much the same as it >>> does buying a TV or a hamburger: caveat emptor. If they choose to >>> ignore it, well, that's who lottery tickets are made for. >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:55:29 -0400 >>> From: Robert Gulian >>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ >>> yrs of exp & good client references >>> To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org >>> Message-ID: >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Ben, >>> >>> Your .02$ may backfire on you. You may have an obligation to your >>> client to report your opinion but you have an obligation not to report >>> it to the world at large. I believe it was a bad judgement on your >>> part and if enough people feel likewise, it may be you who loses work >>> over it. >>> >>> Just my .02$. >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> On Aug 9, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Ben Sgro wrote: >>> >>> >>>> It's my .02$. People are free to make their own decision. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Aug 9, 2008, at 9:26 AM, Donna Marie Vincent >>>> >>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It's not only unethical to publicly disparage an individual's >>>>> ability to perform a job, you could be subject to legal action. >>>>> >>>>> Have you ever made an error while performing your job duties? >>>>> >>>>> Even a former employer would not give out this type of >>>>> information. Do you want to be responsible for someone not getting >>>>> work, and ending up homeless on the street, because of your >>>>> personal opinion about their work, which may or may not be valid? >>>>> >>>>> This is not the same as publicly criticizing a particular product, >>>>> or a company's business practice. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro wrote: >>>>> From: Ben Sgro >>>>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about >>>>> 5+ yrs of exp & good client references >>>>> To: >>>>> Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org >>>>> Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM >>>>> >>>>> Hey, >>>>> >>>>> I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL >>>>> injection, >>>>> XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc. >>>>> >>>>> Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and >>>>> paste, no >>>>> functions. No layouts, templates or >>>>> smarty. >>>>> Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates. >>>>> >>>>> Be sure to request some source before you work with him. >>>>> >>>>> - Ben >>>>> >>>>> sundar rajan wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi >>>>>> >>>>> , >>>>> >>>>>> I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ >>>>>> >>>>> yrs >>>>> >>>>>> of experience in building web applications . >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take: >>>>>> /Creating Custom scripts >>>>>> Member signup with email verification & login with session >>>>>> >>>>> authentication >>>>> >>>>>> Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using >>>>>> >>>>> FPDF >>>>> >>>>>> libraries >>>>>> Command line processing of PHP scripts >>>>>> Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms >>>>>> Google Maps API to display a location >>>>>> >>>>> with >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> pop-up >>>>>> >>>>> info >>>>> >>>>>> XML parsing to database >>>>>> CSV parsing to database >>>>>> RSS feeds using Carp >>>>>> Handling File uploads >>>>>> Generating statistics reports from the database values >>>>>> Generating Graphical reports from the database values >>>>>> Generating Excel download from the database >>>>>> >>>>> values >>>>> >>>>>> Working with complex queries in Mysql console >>>>>> Building application with SEO friendly URLs >>>>>> Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in >>>>>> linux boxes >>>>>> / >>>>>> I can also take up bigger projects with proper specification >>>>>> >>>>> documents >>>>> >>>>>> along with the UI/HTML prototypes. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com >>>>>> to know more about my skill-set , >>>>>> experiences , projects as >>>>>> >>>>> well as client references. >>>>> >>>>>> As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 seller >>>>>> reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> Sundar >>>>>> Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>>>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>>>>> >>>>>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>>>>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>>>>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>>>> >>>>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>>>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>>>> >>>>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>>>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>>>> >>>>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>>>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>>>> >>>>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>>>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>>> >>>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>>> >>>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> http://lists.lists.nyphp.org/pipermail/jobs/attachments/20080809/6f329641/attachment.html >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> jobs mailing list >>> jobs at lists.nyphp.org >>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>> >>> End of jobs Digest, Vol 22, Issue 14 >>> ************************************ >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> >> > > > > From webmiester at gmail.com Sat Aug 9 18:32:37 2008 From: webmiester at gmail.com (RDP) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 18:32:37 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrsofexp & good client references References: <456022.17693.qm@web35601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0245EC92CD6D4364B852A2ED27B06162@RDP> Oh please Donna, the drama!! I didn't see any cruelty in Ben's observation. Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: Donna Marie Vincent To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrsofexp & good client references This is cruel and inappropriate. It's more about killing off your competition to build yourself up than it is about providing helpful information. Barbaric is another word that comes to mind. ----- Original Message ---- From: RDP To: sean at gcnpublishing.com; Andrew Wint Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2008 12:41:27 PM Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references I agree with Ben! Yay Ben! ----- Original Message ----- From: Sean Fulton To: Andrew Wint Cc: RDP ; jobs at lists.nyphp.org Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references I disagree. This wasn't a former employer complaining about a consultant's work, this was another consultant, a competitor if you will, stating as fact something that no one can possibly double-check. I think it's unfair, and am surprised that, on a list dedicated to helping consultants find jobs, you folks would not be more concerned about it. I think this is the first time I have seen someone in a public forum accuse someone of something and not be called to provide proof of their claims. Very puzzling. No one knows what the job requirements were, what the client's expectations were, or what the budget was. Did the client provide enough time and budget to have the job done right, or did they just say, "Get it done for next to nothing," and then when they realized the short-sidedness of their approach, hire Ben to clean up the mess rather than go back to the developer they low-balled and admit that they didn't give him enough time and $$ to do the job correctly. We don't know. Ben won't even tell the list who the client was or produce evidence of the inferior work. So to my mind, this whole thread is quite unfair to the developer who originally posted his availability and should be dropped. Finally, as you read this, please keep in mind that we are a company that employs people on this list, that's why I subscribe. I have employed developers here in the US and in six other countries. I find *no* geo-political differences in coding skills. We evaluate developers based on samples, client references and their ability to follow directions. I have had more than a few developers who are so focused on developing "great code" that they completely ignore the project specs, budget and time-lines. Those people don't last long, but people who follow directions do. Again, without knowing the original assignment that Sundar was given and what went on between he and the client at that time, facts which I doubt even Ben knows, we really can't draw any useful conclusions nor should we try. Just my $.02. sean Andrew Wint wrote: All he did was to provide transparency, now we are discussing the issues. Kristina gave very valid points about the 'delivery of crappy code' and not being able to take action because they are in another country. Another point is that this why we have standards of development practices, these standards shouldn't be compromised they can bend a bit but not break. Sundar needs to seek them out and adhere to them. I know it may seem harsh but it may help Sundar down the line in his growth. As well as protect a small struggling company, thinking they are saving money but falling into a trap. Ben did a good thing. On Aug 9, 2008, at 10:50 AM, RDP wrote: I'm sorry Donna, but I disagree. It's perfectly fine to express a view about someone's work. Of course we make errors in our code, everybody does. But you can't evaluate experience without examining ones work. And employers DO give out this information. Especially if an individual was let go because of inability. Finally, I'm having a problem imagining rows of unemployed PHP coders down and out on skid-row in cardboard boxes, homeless, because their work was criticized. Bye, Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: Donna Marie Vincent To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references It's not only unethical to publicly disparage an individual's ability to perform a job, you could be subject to legal action. Have you ever made an error while performing your job duties? Even a former employer would not give out this type of information. Do you want to be responsible for someone not getting work, and ending up homeless on the street, because of your personal opinion about their work, which may or may not be valid? This is not the same as publicly criticizing a particular product, or a company's business practice. --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro wrote: From: Ben Sgro Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs of exp & good client references To: Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM Hey,I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL injection, XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc.Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and paste, no functions. No layouts, templates or smarty.Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates.Be sure to request some source before you work with him.- Bensundar rajan wrote:>> Hi ,>>> I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ yrs > of experience in building web applications .>>> Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take:> /Creating Custom scripts> Member signup with email verification & login with sessionauthentication> Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using FPDF > libraries> Command line processing of PHP scripts> Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms> Google Maps API to display a location with> pop-up info> XML parsing to database> CSV parsing to database> RSS feeds using Carp> Handling File uploads> Generating statistics reports from the database values> Generating Graphical reports from the database values> Generating Excel download from the database values> Working with complex queries in Mysql console> Building application with SEO friendly URLs> Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in > linux boxes> /> I can also take up bigger projects with proper specification documents > along with the UI/HTML prototypes.>>> Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com > to know more about my skill-set , > experiences , projects as well as client references.>> As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 seller > reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments.>> Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs.>>>> -- > With regards,> Sundar> Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------>> _______________________________________________> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online> http://www.nyphpcon.com>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php_______________________________________________New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing Listhttp://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobsNYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Onlinehttp://www.nyphpcon.comShow Your Participation in New York PHPhttp://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php --------------------------------------------------------------------------_______________________________________________New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing Listhttp://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobsNYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Onlinehttp://www.nyphpcon.comShow Your Participation in New York PHPhttp://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -- Sean FultonGCN Publishing, Inc.Internet Design, Development and Consulting For Today's Media Companieshttp://www.gcnpublishing.com(203) 665-6211, x203 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com Sat Aug 9 18:44:28 2008 From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 15:44:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrsofexp & good client references Message-ID: <85338.93846.qm@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Some people don't see anything unless and until it's happening to them. If it doesn't have a negative impact on *you*, then I guess everything is fine. ----- Original Message ---- From: RDP To: Donna Marie Vincent ; jobs at lists.nyphp.org Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2008 6:32:37 PM Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrsofexp & good client references Oh please Donna, the drama!! I didn't see any cruelty in Ben's observation. Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: Donna Marie Vincent To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrsofexp & good client references This is cruel and inappropriate. It's more about killing off your competition to build yourself up than it is about providing helpful information. Barbaric is another word that comes to mind. ----- Original Message ---- From: RDP To: sean at gcnpublishing.com; Andrew Wint Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2008 12:41:27 PM Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references I agree with Ben! Yay Ben! ----- Original Message ----- From: Sean Fulton To: Andrew Wint Cc: RDP ; jobs at lists.nyphp.org Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references I disagree. This wasn't a former employer complaining about a consultant's work, this was another consultant, a competitor if you will, stating as fact something that no one can possibly double-check. I think it's unfair, and am surprised that, on a list dedicated to helping consultants find jobs, you folks would not be more concerned about it. I think this is the first time I have seen someone in a public forum accuse someone of something and not be called to provide proof of their claims. Very puzzling. No one knows what the job requirements were, what the client's expectations were, or what the budget was. Did the client provide enough time and budget to have the job done right, or did they just say, "Get it done for next to nothing," and then when they realized the short-sidedness of their approach, hire Ben to clean up the mess rather than go back to the developer they low-balled and admit that they didn't give him enough time and $$ to do the job correctly. We don't know. Ben won't even tell the list who the client was or produce evidence of the inferior work. So to my mind, this whole thread is quite unfair to the developer who originally posted his availability and should be dropped. Finally, as you read this, please keep in mind that we are a company that employs people on this list, that's why I subscribe. I have employed developers here in the US and in six other countries. I find *no* geo-political differences in coding skills. We evaluate developers based on samples, client references and their ability to follow directions. I have had more than a few developers who are so focused on developing "great code" that they completely ignore the project specs, budget and time-lines. Those people don't last long, but people who follow directions do. Again, without knowing the original assignment that Sundar was given and what went on between he and the client at that time, facts which I doubt even Ben knows, we really can't draw any useful conclusions nor should we try. Just my $.02. sean Andrew Wint wrote: All he did was to provide transparency, now we are discussing the issues. Kristina gave very valid points about the 'delivery of crappy code' and not being able to take action because they are in another country. Another point is that this why we have standards of development practices, these standards shouldn't be compromised they can bend a bit but not break. Sundar needs to seek them out and adhere to them. I know it may seem harsh but it may help Sundar down the line in his growth. As well as protect a small struggling company, thinking they are saving money but falling into a trap. Ben did a good thing. On Aug 9, 2008, at 10:50 AM, RDP wrote: I'm sorry Donna, but I disagree. It's perfectly fine to express a view about someone's work. Of course we make errors in our code, everybody does. But you can't evaluate experience without examining ones work. And employers DO give out this information. Especially if an individual was let go because of inability. Finally, I'm having a problem imagining rows of unemployed PHP coders down and out on skid-row in cardboard boxes, homeless, because their work was criticized. Bye, Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: Donna Marie Vincent To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references It's not only unethical to publicly disparage an individual's ability to perform a job, you could be subject to legal action. Have you ever made an error while performing your job duties? Even a former employer would not give out this type of information. Do you want to be responsible for someone not getting work, and ending up homeless on the street, because of your personal opinion about their work, which may or may not be valid? This is not the same as publicly criticizing a particular product, or a company's business practice. --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro wrote: From: Ben Sgro Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs of exp & good client references To: Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM Hey, I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL injection, XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc. Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and paste, no functions. No layouts, templates or smarty. Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates. Be sure to request some source before you work with him. - Ben sundar rajan wrote: > > Hi , > > > I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ yrs > of experience in building web applications . > > > Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take: > /Creating Custom scripts > Member signup with email verification & login with session authentication > Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using FPDF > libraries > Command line processing of PHP scripts > Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms > Google Maps API to display a location with > pop-up info > XML parsing to database > CSV parsing to database > RSS feeds using Carp > Handling File uploads > Generating statistics reports from the database values > Generating Graphical reports from the database values > Generating Excel download from the database values > Working with complex queries in Mysql console > Building application with SEO friendly URLs > Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in > linux boxes > / > I can also take up bigger projects with proper specification documents > along with the UI/HTML prototypes. > > > Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com > to know more about my skill-set , > experiences , projects as well as client references. > > As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 seller > reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments. > > Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs. > > > > -- > With regards, > Sundar > Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php ________________________________ _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php_______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php ________________________________ _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -- Sean Fulton GCN Publishing, Inc. Internet Design, Development and Consulting For Today's Media Companies http://www.gcnpublishing.com (203) 665-6211, x203 ________________________________ _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mike at greenzer.com Sat Aug 9 19:57:16 2008 From: mike at greenzer.com (Mike Dikan) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 19:57:16 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrsofexp & good client references In-Reply-To: <85338.93846.qm@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <85338.93846.qm@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8F3B2139-D2CC-40C8-81D6-7DBB097BBC24@greenzer.com> This has all been an interesting discussion, i think Ben has a lot of cheers because we have all in some way or another had to feel the pain of cleaning up someone else's code mess, be it foreign-built or otherwise. I think the point that it wasn't the place do so might have some merit, but one point i haven't heard mentioned is whether or not the NY PHP board is really the place for Sundar or any other non- NY php developer to post about his services and expect non-reproachful responses when he does so. What are the NY PHP list moderator's positions on that? -Mike On Aug 9, 2008, at 6:44 PM, Donna Marie Vincent wrote: > Some people don't see anything unless and until it's happening to > them. If it doesn't have a negative impact on *you*, then I guess > everything is fine. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: RDP > To: Donna Marie Vincent ; jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2008 6:32:37 PM > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about > 5+ yrsofexp & good client references > > Oh please Donna, the drama!! > > I didn't see any cruelty in Ben's observation. > > > > Rob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Donna Marie Vincent > To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 1:32 PM > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about > 5+ yrsofexp & good client references > > This is cruel and inappropriate. It's more about killing off your > competition to build yourself up than it is about providing helpful > information. Barbaric is another word that comes to mind. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: RDP > To: sean at gcnpublishing.com; Andrew Wint > Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2008 12:41:27 PM > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about > 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references > > I agree with Ben! Yay Ben! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sean Fulton > To: Andrew Wint > Cc: RDP ; jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 12:25 PM > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about > 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references > > I disagree. This wasn't a former employer complaining about a > consultant's work, this was another consultant, a competitor if you > will, stating as fact something that no one can possibly double- > check. I think it's unfair, and am surprised that, on a list > dedicated to helping consultants find jobs, you folks would not be > more concerned about it. I think this is the first time I have seen > someone in a public forum accuse someone of something and not be > called to provide proof of their claims. Very puzzling. > > No one knows what the job requirements were, what the client's > expectations were, or what the budget was. Did the client provide > enough time and budget to have the job done right, or did they just > say, "Get it done for next to nothing," and then when they realized > the short-sidedness of their approach, hire Ben to clean up the mess > rather than go back to the developer they low-balled and admit that > they didn't give him enough time and $$ to do the job correctly. We > don't know. Ben won't even tell the list who the client was or > produce evidence of the inferior work. So to my mind, this whole > thread is quite unfair to the developer who originally posted his > availability and should be dropped. > > Finally, as you read this, please keep in mind that we are a company > that employs people on this list, that's why I subscribe. I have > employed developers here in the US and in six other countries. I > find *no* geo-political differences in coding skills. We evaluate > developers based on samples, client references and their ability to > follow directions. I have had more than a few developers who are so > focused on developing "great code" that they completely ignore the > project specs, budget and time-lines. Those people don't last long, > but people who follow directions do. > > Again, without knowing the original assignment that Sundar was given > and what went on between he and the client at that time, facts which > I doubt even Ben knows, we really can't draw any useful conclusions > nor should we try. > > Just my $.02. > > sean > > > > > Andrew Wint wrote: >> >> All he did was to provide transparency, now we are discussing the >> issues. Kristina gave very valid points about the 'delivery of >> crappy code' and not being able to take action because they are in >> another country. >> >> Another point is that this why we have standards of development >> practices, these standards shouldn't be compromised they can bend a >> bit but not break. Sundar needs to seek them out and adhere to them. >> >> I know it may seem harsh but it may help Sundar down the line in >> his growth. As well as protect a small struggling company, >> thinking they are saving money but falling into a trap. >> >> Ben did a good thing. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Aug 9, 2008, at 10:50 AM, RDP wrote: >> >>> I'm sorry Donna, but I disagree. >>> >>> It's perfectly fine to express a view about someone's work. >>> >>> Of course we make errors in our code, everybody does. But you >>> can't evaluate experience without examining ones work. >>> >>> And employers DO give out this information. Especially if an >>> individual was let go because of inability. >>> >>> Finally, I'm having a problem imagining rows of unemployed PHP >>> coders down and out on skid-row in cardboard boxes, homeless, >>> because their work was criticized. >>> >>> Bye, >>> >>> Rob >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Donna Marie Vincent >>> To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org >>> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:26 AM >>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with >>> about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references >>> >>> It's not only unethical to publicly disparage an individual's >>> ability to perform a job, you could be subject to legal action. >>> >>> Have you ever made an error while performing your job duties? >>> >>> Even a former employer would not give out this type of >>> information. Do you want to be responsible for someone not >>> getting work, and ending up homeless on the street, because of >>> your personal opinion about their work, which may or may not be >>> valid? >>> >>> This is not the same as publicly criticizing a particular product, >>> or a company's business practice. >>> >>> >>> >>> --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro wrote: >>> From: Ben Sgro >>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with >>> about 5+ yrs of exp & good client references >>> To: >>> Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org >>> Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM >>> >>> Hey, >>> >>> I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL >>> injection, >>> XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc. >>> >>> Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and >>> paste, no >>> functions. No layouts, templates or >>> smarty. >>> Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates. >>> >>> Be sure to request some source before you work with him. >>> >>> - Ben >>> >>> sundar rajan wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi >>> , >>> > >>> > >>> > I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ >>> yrs >>> > of experience in building web applications . >>> > >>> > >>> > Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take: >>> > /Creating Custom scripts >>> > Member signup with email verification & login with session >>> authentication >>> > Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using >>> FPDF >>> >>> > >>> libraries >>> > Command line processing of PHP scripts >>> > Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms >>> > Google Maps API to display a location >>> with >>> >>> > pop-up >>> info >>> > XML parsing to database >>> > CSV parsing to database >>> > RSS feeds using Carp >>> > Handling File uploads >>> > Generating statistics reports from the database values >>> > Generating Graphical reports from the database values >>> > Generating Excel download from the database >>> values >>> > Working with complex queries in Mysql console >>> > Building application with SEO friendly URLs >>> > Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in >>> > linux boxes >>> > / >>> > I can also take up bigger projects with proper >>> specification documents >>> >>> > along with the UI/HTML prototypes. >>> > >>> > >>> > Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com >>> > to know more about my skill-set , >>> > experiences , projects as >>> well as client references. >>> > >>> > As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 >>> seller >>> > reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments. >>> > >>> > Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > With regards, >>> > Sundar >>> > Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387 >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > New York PHP >>> Community Jobs Mailing >>> List >>> > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>> > >>> > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>> > http://www.nyphpcon.com >>> > >>> > Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>> > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>> _______________________________________________ >>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>> >>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>> >>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>> >>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>> >>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>> _______________________________________________ >>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>> >>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>> >>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > -- > Sean Fulton > GCN > Publishing, > Inc. > Internet Design, Development and Consulting For Today's Media > Companies > http://www.gcnpublishing.com > (203) 665-6211, x203 > > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k at krisgale.com Sat Aug 9 20:34:20 2008 From: k at krisgale.com (k at krisgale.com) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 17:34:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrsofexp & good client references In-Reply-To: <8F3B2139-D2CC-40C8-81D6-7DBB097BBC24@greenzer.com> References: <85338.93846.qm@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8F3B2139-D2CC-40C8-81D6-7DBB097BBC24@greenzer.com> Message-ID: <55495.70.91.36.165.1218328460.squirrel@webmail.krisgale.com> > we have all in some way or another had to feel the pain > of cleaning up someone else's code mess and it's also true that, albeit painful, cleanup work can easily account for half of the new business development in any freelancer's career... i for one have been dealing with four-year+ old code for one company for which i currently consult (and have been for over a year) and the former developer did such a poor job that the expectations are rather low and the client is utterly grateful for any and all improvements i suggest and implement... it's not as interesting as new development which uses your own sense of best-practice, but it sure can be lucrative! From sean at gcnpublishing.com Sat Aug 9 20:48:55 2008 From: sean at gcnpublishing.com (Sean Fulton) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 20:48:55 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrsofexp & good client references Message-ID: <200808100048.m7A0m5Y4028931@boston-2.grand-central.net> As an employer, i appreciate availability posts and *always* check the person out, whether we need help at the moment or not. I hope that freelancers will continue to post their availability on this list. That's why I am concerned about anything that might inhibit someone from posting for fear of being publicly criticized. It's hard to find good people! Let them post and I will make my own decisions. sean -----Original Message----- From: "Mike Dikan" To: "Donna Marie Vincent" Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Sent: 8/9/2008 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrsofexp & good client references This has all been an interesting discussion, i think Ben has a lot of cheers because we have all in some way or another had to feel the pain of cleaning up someone else's code mess, be it foreign-built or otherwise. I think the point that it wasn't the place do so might have some merit, but one point i haven't heard mentioned is whether or not the NY PHP board is really the place for Sundar or any other non- NY php developer to post about his services and expect non-reproachful responses when he does so. What are the NY PHP list moderator's positions on that? -Mike On Aug 9, 2008, at 6:44 PM, Donna Marie Vincent wrote: > Some people don't see anything unless and until it's happening to > them. If it doesn't have a negative impact on *you*, then I guess > everything is fine. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: RDP > To: Donna Marie Vincent ; jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2008 6:32:37 PM > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about > 5+ yrsofexp & good client references > > Oh please Donna, the drama!! > > I didn't see any cruelty in Ben's observation. > > > > Rob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Donna Marie Vincent > To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 1:32 PM > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about > 5+ yrsofexp & good client references > > This is cruel and inappropriate. It's more about killing off your > competition to build yourself up than it is about providing helpful > information. Barbaric is another word that comes to mind. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: RDP > To: sean at gcnpublishing.com; Andrew Wint > Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2008 12:41:27 PM > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about > 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references > > I agree with Ben! Yay Ben! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sean Fulton > To: Andrew Wint > Cc: RDP ; jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 12:25 PM > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about > 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references > > I disagree. This wasn't a former employer complaining about a > consultant's work, this was another consultant, a competitor if you > will, stating as fact something that no one can possibly double- > check. I think it's unfair, and am surprised that, on a list > dedicated to helping consultants find jobs, you folks would not be > more concerned about it. I think this is the first time I have seen > someone in a public forum accuse someone of something and not be > called to provide proof of their claims. Very puzzling. > > No one knows what the job requirements were, what the client's > expectations were, or what the budget was. Did the client provide > enough time and budget to have the job done right, or did they just > say, "Get it done for next to nothing," and then when they realized > the short-sidedness of their approach, hire Ben to clean up the mess > rather than go back to the developer they low-balled and admit that > they didn't give him enough time and $$ to do the job correctly. We > don't know. Ben won't even tell the list who the client was or > produce evidence of the inferior work. So to my mind, this whole > thread is quite unfair to the developer who originally posted his > availability and should be dropped. > > Finally, as you read this, please keep in mind that we are a company > that employs people on this list, that's why I subscribe. I have > employed developers here in the US and in six other countries. I > find *no* geo-political differences in coding skills. We evaluate > developers based on samples, client references and their ability to > follow directions. I have had more than a few developers who are so > focused on developing "great code" that they completely ignore the > project specs, budget and time-lines. Those people don't last long, > but people who follow directions do. > > Again, without knowing the original assignment that Sundar was given > and what went on between he and the client at that time, facts which > I doubt even Ben knows, we really can't draw any useful conclusions > nor should we try. > > Just my $.02. > > sean > > > > > Andrew Wint wrote: >> >> All he did was to provide transparency, now we are discussing the >> issues. Kristina gave very valid points about the 'delivery of >> crappy code' and not being able to take action because they are in >> another country. >> >> Another point is that this why we have standards of development >> practices, these standards shouldn't be compromised they can bend a >> bit but not break. Sundar needs to seek them out and adhere to them. >> >> I know it may seem harsh but it may help Sundar down the line in >> his growth. As well as protect a small struggling company, >> thinking they are saving money but falling into a trap. >> >> Ben did a good thing. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Aug 9, 2008, at 10:50 AM, RDP wrote: >> >>> I'm sorry Donna, but I disagree. >>> >>> It's perfectly fine to express a view about someone's work. >>> >>> Of course we make errors in our code, everybody does. But you >>> can't evaluate experience without examining ones work. >>> >>> And employers DO give out this information. Especially if an >>> individual was let go because of inability. >>> >>> Finally, I'm having a problem imagining rows of unemployed PHP >>> coders down and out on skid-row in cardboard boxes, homeless, >>> because their work was criticized. >>> >>> Bye, >>> >>> Rob >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Donna Marie Vincent >>> To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org >>> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:26 AM >>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with >>> about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references >>> >>> It's not only unethical to publicly disparage an individual's >>> ability to perform a job, you could be subject to legal action. >>> >>> Have you ever made an error while performing your job duties? >>> >>> Even a former employer would not give out this type of >>> information. Do you want to be responsible for someone not >>> getting work, and ending up homeless on the street, because of >>> your personal opinion about their work, which may or may not be >>> valid? >>> >>> This is not the same as publicly criticizing a particular product, >>> or a company's business practice. >>> >>> >>> >>> --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro wrote: >>> From: Ben Sgro >>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with >>> about 5+ yrs of exp & good client references >>> To: >>> Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org >>> Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM >>> >>> Hey, >>> >>> I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL >>> injection, >>> XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc. >>> >>> Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and >>> paste, no >>> functions. No layouts, templates or >>> smarty. >>> Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates. >>> >>> Be sure to request some source before you work with him. >>> >>> - Ben >>> >>> sundar rajan wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi >>> , >>> > >>> > >>> > I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ >>> yrs >>> > of experience in building web applications . >>> > >>> > >>> > Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take: >>> > /Creating Custom scripts >>> > Member signup with email verification & login with session >>> authentication >>> > Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using >>> FPDF >>> >>> > >>> libraries >>> > Command line processing of PHP scripts >>> > Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms >>> > Google Maps API to display a location >>> with >>> >>> > pop-up >>> info >>> > XML parsing to database >>> > CSV parsing to database >>> > RSS feeds using Carp >>> > Handling File uploads >>> > Generating statistics reports from the database values >>> > Generating Graphical reports from the database values >>> > Generating Excel download from the database >>> values >>> > Working with complex queries in Mysql console >>> > Building application with SEO friendly URLs >>> > Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in >>> > linux boxes >>> > / >>> > I can also take up bigger projects with proper >>> specification documents >>> >>> > along with the UI/HTML prototypes. >>> > >>> > >>> > Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com >>> > to know more about my skill-set , >>> > experiences , projects as >>> well as client references. >>> > >>> > As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 >>> seller >>> > reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments. >>> > >>> > Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > With regards, >>> > Sundar >>> > Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387 >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > New York PHP >>> Community Jobs Mailing >>> List >>> > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>> > >>> > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>> > http://www.nyphpcon.com >>> > >>> > Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>> > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>> _______________________________________________ >>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>> >>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>> >>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>> >>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>> >>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>> _______________________________________________ >>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>> >>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>> >>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > -- > Sean Fulton > GCN > Publishing, > Inc. > Internet Design, Development and Consulting For Today's Media > Companies > http://www.gcnpublishing.com > (203) 665-6211, x203 > > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php From mike at greenzer.com Sat Aug 9 21:02:00 2008 From: mike at greenzer.com (Mike Dikan) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 21:02:00 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrsofexp & good client references In-Reply-To: <200808100048.m7A0m5Y4028931@boston-2.grand-central.net> References: <200808100048.m7A0m5Y4028931@boston-2.grand-central.net> Message-ID: <11CDFB3B-7777-41A3-8774-9110282F6AB2@greenzer.com> Granted there are some people who want help, no matter where that help is coming from - they are fine looking into a telecommuting contractor. My question is just if this list is the place for it, or if there is another list specifically for that type of posting. Its like going to ebay (does anyone even shop on ebay anymore?) to shop for a computer, going to the 'computers' category, and seeing a bunch of computer parts. Maybe someone out there clicked the computers category and also happened to be looking for a video card and is glad to see it, but its still an abuse of the system and makes the overall categorization aspect of ebay less valuable. I'm not saying that non NY developers don't have a place here, i'm pretty new to the board, and am in no position to say whether or not they do or not, i'm just wondering if someone else here who has been around a while longer does know what the official (or emergent) position is. Just curious! On Aug 9, 2008, at 8:48 PM, Sean Fulton wrote: > As an employer, i appreciate availability posts and *always* check > the person out, whether we need help at the moment or not. > > I hope that freelancers will continue to post their availability on > this list. That's why I am concerned about anything that might > inhibit someone from posting for fear of being publicly criticized. > > It's hard to find good people! Let them post and I will make my own > decisions. > > sean > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Mike Dikan" > To: "Donna Marie Vincent" > Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Sent: 8/9/2008 7:57 PM > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about > 5+ yrsofexp & good client references > > This has all been an interesting discussion, i think Ben has a lot of > cheers because we have all in some way or another had to feel the pain > of cleaning up someone else's code mess, be it foreign-built or > otherwise. I think the point that it wasn't the place do so might > have some merit, but one point i haven't heard mentioned is whether or > not the NY PHP board is really the place for Sundar or any other non- > NY php developer to post about his services and expect non-reproachful > responses when he does so. > > What are the NY PHP list moderator's positions on that? > > -Mike > > On Aug 9, 2008, at 6:44 PM, Donna Marie Vincent wrote: > >> Some people don't see anything unless and until it's happening to >> them. If it doesn't have a negative impact on *you*, then I guess >> everything is fine. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: RDP >> To: Donna Marie Vincent ; jobs at lists.nyphp.org >> Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2008 6:32:37 PM >> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about >> 5+ yrsofexp & good client references >> >> Oh please Donna, the drama!! >> >> I didn't see any cruelty in Ben's observation. >> >> >> >> Rob >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Donna Marie Vincent >> To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org >> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 1:32 PM >> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about >> 5+ yrsofexp & good client references >> >> This is cruel and inappropriate. It's more about killing off your >> competition to build yourself up than it is about providing helpful >> information. Barbaric is another word that comes to mind. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: RDP >> To: sean at gcnpublishing.com; Andrew Wint >> Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org >> Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2008 12:41:27 PM >> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about >> 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references >> >> I agree with Ben! Yay Ben! >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Sean Fulton >> To: Andrew Wint >> Cc: RDP ; jobs at lists.nyphp.org >> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 12:25 PM >> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about >> 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references >> >> I disagree. This wasn't a former employer complaining about a >> consultant's work, this was another consultant, a competitor if you >> will, stating as fact something that no one can possibly double- >> check. I think it's unfair, and am surprised that, on a list >> dedicated to helping consultants find jobs, you folks would not be >> more concerned about it. I think this is the first time I have seen >> someone in a public forum accuse someone of something and not be >> called to provide proof of their claims. Very puzzling. >> >> No one knows what the job requirements were, what the client's >> expectations were, or what the budget was. Did the client provide >> enough time and budget to have the job done right, or did they just >> say, "Get it done for next to nothing," and then when they realized >> the short-sidedness of their approach, hire Ben to clean up the mess >> rather than go back to the developer they low-balled and admit that >> they didn't give him enough time and $$ to do the job correctly. We >> don't know. Ben won't even tell the list who the client was or >> produce evidence of the inferior work. So to my mind, this whole >> thread is quite unfair to the developer who originally posted his >> availability and should be dropped. >> >> Finally, as you read this, please keep in mind that we are a company >> that employs people on this list, that's why I subscribe. I have >> employed developers here in the US and in six other countries. I >> find *no* geo-political differences in coding skills. We evaluate >> developers based on samples, client references and their ability to >> follow directions. I have had more than a few developers who are so >> focused on developing "great code" that they completely ignore the >> project specs, budget and time-lines. Those people don't last long, >> but people who follow directions do. >> >> Again, without knowing the original assignment that Sundar was given >> and what went on between he and the client at that time, facts which >> I doubt even Ben knows, we really can't draw any useful conclusions >> nor should we try. >> >> Just my $.02. >> >> sean >> >> >> >> >> Andrew Wint wrote: >>> >>> All he did was to provide transparency, now we are discussing the >>> issues. Kristina gave very valid points about the 'delivery of >>> crappy code' and not being able to take action because they are in >>> another country. >>> >>> Another point is that this why we have standards of development >>> practices, these standards shouldn't be compromised they can bend a >>> bit but not break. Sundar needs to seek them out and adhere to them. >>> >>> I know it may seem harsh but it may help Sundar down the line in >>> his growth. As well as protect a small struggling company, >>> thinking they are saving money but falling into a trap. >>> >>> Ben did a good thing. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Aug 9, 2008, at 10:50 AM, RDP wrote: >>> >>>> I'm sorry Donna, but I disagree. >>>> >>>> It's perfectly fine to express a view about someone's work. >>>> >>>> Of course we make errors in our code, everybody does. But you >>>> can't evaluate experience without examining ones work. >>>> >>>> And employers DO give out this information. Especially if an >>>> individual was let go because of inability. >>>> >>>> Finally, I'm having a problem imagining rows of unemployed PHP >>>> coders down and out on skid-row in cardboard boxes, homeless, >>>> because their work was criticized. >>>> >>>> Bye, >>>> >>>> Rob >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Donna Marie Vincent >>>> To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org >>>> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:26 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with >>>> about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references >>>> >>>> It's not only unethical to publicly disparage an individual's >>>> ability to perform a job, you could be subject to legal action. >>>> >>>> Have you ever made an error while performing your job duties? >>>> >>>> Even a former employer would not give out this type of >>>> information. Do you want to be responsible for someone not >>>> getting work, and ending up homeless on the street, because of >>>> your personal opinion about their work, which may or may not be >>>> valid? >>>> >>>> This is not the same as publicly criticizing a particular product, >>>> or a company's business practice. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro wrote: >>>> From: Ben Sgro >>>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with >>>> about 5+ yrs of exp & good client references >>>> To: >>>> Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org >>>> Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM >>>> >>>> Hey, >>>> >>>> I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL >>>> injection, >>>> XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc. >>>> >>>> Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and >>>> paste, no >>>> functions. No layouts, templates or >>>> smarty. >>>> Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates. >>>> >>>> Be sure to request some source before you work with him. >>>> >>>> - Ben >>>> >>>> sundar rajan wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi >>>> , >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ >>>> yrs >>>>> of experience in building web applications . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take: >>>>> /Creating Custom scripts >>>>> Member signup with email verification & login with session >>>> authentication >>>>> Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using >>>> FPDF >>>> >>>>> >>>> libraries >>>>> Command line processing of PHP scripts >>>>> Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms >>>>> Google Maps API to display a location >>>> with >>>> >>>>> pop-up >>>> info >>>>> XML parsing to database >>>>> CSV parsing to database >>>>> RSS feeds using Carp >>>>> Handling File uploads >>>>> Generating statistics reports from the database values >>>>> Generating Graphical reports from the database values >>>>> Generating Excel download from the database >>>> values >>>>> Working with complex queries in Mysql console >>>>> Building application with SEO friendly URLs >>>>> Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in >>>>> linux boxes >>>>> / >>>>> I can also take up bigger projects with proper >>>> specification documents >>>> >>>>> along with the UI/HTML prototypes. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com >>>>> to know more about my skill-set , >>>>> experiences , projects as >>>> well as client references. >>>>> >>>>> As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 >>>> seller >>>>> reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments. >>>>> >>>>> Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> Sundar >>>>> Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> New York PHP >>>> Community Jobs Mailing >>>> List >>>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>>>> >>>>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>>>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>>>> >>>>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>>>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>>> >>>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>>> >>>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>>> >>>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>>> >>>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>>> >>>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>>> >>>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>> >>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>> >>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> >> -- >> Sean Fulton >> GCN >> Publishing, >> Inc. >> Internet Design, Development and Consulting For Today's Media >> Companies >> http://www.gcnpublishing.com >> (203) 665-6211, x203 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > From ben at projectskyline.com Sat Aug 9 21:09:50 2008 From: ben at projectskyline.com (Ben Sgro) Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 21:09:50 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrsofexp & good client references In-Reply-To: <200808100048.m7A0m5Y4028931@boston-2.grand-central.net> References: <200808100048.m7A0m5Y4028931@boston-2.grand-central.net> Message-ID: <489E3FDE.9010807@projectskyline.com> Hello All, /This is cruel and inappropriate. It's more about killing off your competition to build yourself up than it is about providing helpful information. Barbaric is another word that comes to mind./ To be clear I'm not a freelancer. I was in the past for many years, but I now have an excellent day job and I only do *research* outside of work. (For those like are interested in Singularity, Evolutionary Robotics and Genetic Programming, drop me a line - I just finished presenting at HOPE @ Hotel Penn a few weekends ago on those very subjects) I learned something today and I'm glad for the praise and criticisms. Enjoy the weekend. - Ben Sean Fulton wrote: > As an employer, i appreciate availability posts and *always* check the person out, whether we need help at the moment or not. > > I hope that freelancers will continue to post their availability on this list. That's why I am concerned about anything that might inhibit someone from posting for fear of being publicly criticized. > > It's hard to find good people! Let them post and I will make my own decisions. > > sean > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Mike Dikan" > To: "Donna Marie Vincent" > Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Sent: 8/9/2008 7:57 PM > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrsofexp & good client references > > This has all been an interesting discussion, i think Ben has a lot of > cheers because we have all in some way or another had to feel the pain > of cleaning up someone else's code mess, be it foreign-built or > otherwise. I think the point that it wasn't the place do so might > have some merit, but one point i haven't heard mentioned is whether or > not the NY PHP board is really the place for Sundar or any other non- > NY php developer to post about his services and expect non-reproachful > responses when he does so. > > What are the NY PHP list moderator's positions on that? > > -Mike > > On Aug 9, 2008, at 6:44 PM, Donna Marie Vincent wrote: > > >> Some people don't see anything unless and until it's happening to >> them. If it doesn't have a negative impact on *you*, then I guess >> everything is fine. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: RDP >> To: Donna Marie Vincent ; jobs at lists.nyphp.org >> Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2008 6:32:37 PM >> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about >> 5+ yrsofexp & good client references >> >> Oh please Donna, the drama!! >> >> I didn't see any cruelty in Ben's observation. >> >> >> >> Rob >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Donna Marie Vincent >> To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org >> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 1:32 PM >> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about >> 5+ yrsofexp & good client references >> >> This is cruel and inappropriate. It's more about killing off your >> competition to build yourself up than it is about providing helpful >> information. Barbaric is another word that comes to mind. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: RDP >> To: sean at gcnpublishing.com; Andrew Wint >> Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org >> Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2008 12:41:27 PM >> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about >> 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references >> >> I agree with Ben! Yay Ben! >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Sean Fulton >> To: Andrew Wint >> Cc: RDP ; jobs at lists.nyphp.org >> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 12:25 PM >> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about >> 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references >> >> I disagree. This wasn't a former employer complaining about a >> consultant's work, this was another consultant, a competitor if you >> will, stating as fact something that no one can possibly double- >> check. I think it's unfair, and am surprised that, on a list >> dedicated to helping consultants find jobs, you folks would not be >> more concerned about it. I think this is the first time I have seen >> someone in a public forum accuse someone of something and not be >> called to provide proof of their claims. Very puzzling. >> >> No one knows what the job requirements were, what the client's >> expectations were, or what the budget was. Did the client provide >> enough time and budget to have the job done right, or did they just >> say, "Get it done for next to nothing," and then when they realized >> the short-sidedness of their approach, hire Ben to clean up the mess >> rather than go back to the developer they low-balled and admit that >> they didn't give him enough time and $$ to do the job correctly. We >> don't know. Ben won't even tell the list who the client was or >> produce evidence of the inferior work. So to my mind, this whole >> thread is quite unfair to the developer who originally posted his >> availability and should be dropped. >> >> Finally, as you read this, please keep in mind that we are a company >> that employs people on this list, that's why I subscribe. I have >> employed developers here in the US and in six other countries. I >> find *no* geo-political differences in coding skills. We evaluate >> developers based on samples, client references and their ability to >> follow directions. I have had more than a few developers who are so >> focused on developing "great code" that they completely ignore the >> project specs, budget and time-lines. Those people don't last long, >> but people who follow directions do. >> >> Again, without knowing the original assignment that Sundar was given >> and what went on between he and the client at that time, facts which >> I doubt even Ben knows, we really can't draw any useful conclusions >> nor should we try. >> >> Just my $.02. >> >> sean >> >> >> >> >> Andrew Wint wrote: >> >>> All he did was to provide transparency, now we are discussing the >>> issues. Kristina gave very valid points about the 'delivery of >>> crappy code' and not being able to take action because they are in >>> another country. >>> >>> Another point is that this why we have standards of development >>> practices, these standards shouldn't be compromised they can bend a >>> bit but not break. Sundar needs to seek them out and adhere to them. >>> >>> I know it may seem harsh but it may help Sundar down the line in >>> his growth. As well as protect a small struggling company, >>> thinking they are saving money but falling into a trap. >>> >>> Ben did a good thing. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Aug 9, 2008, at 10:50 AM, RDP wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I'm sorry Donna, but I disagree. >>>> >>>> It's perfectly fine to express a view about someone's work. >>>> >>>> Of course we make errors in our code, everybody does. But you >>>> can't evaluate experience without examining ones work. >>>> >>>> And employers DO give out this information. Especially if an >>>> individual was let go because of inability. >>>> >>>> Finally, I'm having a problem imagining rows of unemployed PHP >>>> coders down and out on skid-row in cardboard boxes, homeless, >>>> because their work was criticized. >>>> >>>> Bye, >>>> >>>> Rob >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Donna Marie Vincent >>>> To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org >>>> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:26 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with >>>> about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references >>>> >>>> It's not only unethical to publicly disparage an individual's >>>> ability to perform a job, you could be subject to legal action. >>>> >>>> Have you ever made an error while performing your job duties? >>>> >>>> Even a former employer would not give out this type of >>>> information. Do you want to be responsible for someone not >>>> getting work, and ending up homeless on the street, because of >>>> your personal opinion about their work, which may or may not be >>>> valid? >>>> >>>> This is not the same as publicly criticizing a particular product, >>>> or a company's business practice. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro wrote: >>>> From: Ben Sgro >>>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with >>>> about 5+ yrs of exp & good client references >>>> To: >>>> Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org >>>> Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM >>>> >>>> Hey, >>>> >>>> I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL >>>> injection, >>>> XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc. >>>> >>>> Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and >>>> paste, no >>>> functions. No layouts, templates or >>>> smarty. >>>> Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates. >>>> >>>> Be sure to request some source before you work with him. >>>> >>>> - Ben >>>> >>>> sundar rajan wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>> , >>>> >>>>> I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ >>>>> >>>> yrs >>>> >>>>> of experience in building web applications . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take: >>>>> /Creating Custom scripts >>>>> Member signup with email verification & login with session >>>>> >>>> authentication >>>> >>>>> Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using >>>>> >>>> FPDF >>>> >>>> >>>> libraries >>>> >>>>> Command line processing of PHP scripts >>>>> Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms >>>>> Google Maps API to display a location >>>>> >>>> with >>>> >>>> >>>>> pop-up >>>>> >>>> info >>>> >>>>> XML parsing to database >>>>> CSV parsing to database >>>>> RSS feeds using Carp >>>>> Handling File uploads >>>>> Generating statistics reports from the database values >>>>> Generating Graphical reports from the database values >>>>> Generating Excel download from the database >>>>> >>>> values >>>> >>>>> Working with complex queries in Mysql console >>>>> Building application with SEO friendly URLs >>>>> Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in >>>>> linux boxes >>>>> / >>>>> I can also take up bigger projects with proper >>>>> >>>> specification documents >>>> >>>> >>>>> along with the UI/HTML prototypes. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com >>>>> to know more about my skill-set , >>>>> experiences , projects as >>>>> >>>> well as client references. >>>> >>>>> As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 >>>>> >>>> seller >>>> >>>>> reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments. >>>>> >>>>> Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> Sundar >>>>> Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> New York PHP >>>>> >>>> Community Jobs Mailing >>>> List >>>> >>>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>>>> >>>>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>>>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>>>> >>>>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>>>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>>> >>>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>>> >>>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>>> >>>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>>> >>>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>>> >>>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>>> >>>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>> >>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>> >>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>> >> -- >> Sean Fulton >> GCN >> Publishing, >> Inc. >> Internet Design, Development and Consulting For Today's Media >> Companies >> http://www.gcnpublishing.com >> (203) 665-6211, x203 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > From gary066 at yahoo.com Sun Aug 10 16:40:17 2008 From: gary066 at yahoo.com (gary066 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Technical Manager, Internet Applications - up to 150K salary In-Reply-To: <85338.93846.qm@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <914102.18793.qm@web32702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This is a technical management position for a premier media company. I have previously worked as a J2EE consultant in this group. Need someone with a strong J2EE technical background, although this is a managerial level position. Some job functions: ? Oversee development of web application functionality ? Evaluate business requirements for technical feasibility ? Estimate, plan, track and provide status on technical projects and activities ? Identify and mitigate project risks ? Hire, train, mentor and manage developers ? Perform technical design and code reviews ? Approve and commit code for integration ? Design and develop application features ? Be a primary problem solving resource ? Oversee the technical work of vendor consultants and consulting teams ? Define and enforce company technical standards and best practices ? Evaluate technology vendors and products ? Develop, improve and enforce software development processes Required Skills: ? The candidate must have a BA/BS degree and 7+ years professional experience and a minimum of three years supervisory experience. ? J2EE web application development (Servlets, JDBC, JSP, Javascript, etc.) ? Web application frameworks such as Struts, Spring, SiteMesh ? Data modeling and SQL ? Object-relational mapping frameworks such as Hibernate or EJB3 ? Internet technologies (TCP/IP, HTTP, SMTP, XML, RSS, AJAX, etc.) ? Software engineering methodologies ? Version control and release management practices ? Development and deployment of applications on Unix / Linux. ? Load testing, profiling and performance tuning. ? Shell scripting Desired Skills: ? Online publishing / media industry ? Content management systems such as Interwoven TeamSite ? Online community applications and services (forums, blogs, etc.) ? Alternative web development languages and frameworks, such as Grails, Ruby on Rails, Django, PHP and / or Flex From gary066 at yahoo.com Sun Aug 10 16:49:23 2008 From: gary066 at yahoo.com (gary066 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:49:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Java Analyst - salary DOE - media industry In-Reply-To: <85338.93846.qm@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <557998.34938.qm@web32703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> We are looking for a J2EE developer to build and enhance web applications for a premier magazine publishing company. In this position, you will create high-performing and scalable code server side code to support our millions of users. Developers on our team provide technical documentation, follow process and code standards, write unit tests, provide estimates, meet deadlines, contribute new ideas and have a commitment to quality. Current skills needed include SQL, Struts, Tiles, Spring, and Hibernate. Candidates with publishing experience and excellent communication skills preferred. From gary066 at yahoo.com Sun Aug 10 16:55:38 2008 From: gary066 at yahoo.com (gary066 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:55:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Sr Software Engineer - Content Mgmt - up to 110K In-Reply-To: <85338.93846.qm@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <164018.37790.qm@web32705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My client is building progressive applications for popular Web sites and invites you to join our team! Technologies include Java EE, PHP, Perl, AJAX, Adobe Flex & AIR, and object-relational databases. Become part of a bright and dedicated team of software developers using agile development methodologies to build high volume interactive web sites. As a Software Developer in the Content Management team, you will be part of the team that is responsible for the development and maintenance of our internal data production systems. The ideal candidate is a team player who is excited about developing and maintaining high quality and efficient production systems. Responsibilities ? Participate in architecting, designing, building, and testing content management solutions for web publishing platforms. ? Provide technical direction at all stages of the content management lifecycle. ? Evaluate solutions, recommend approaches, lead the design, and create solid technical executions for complex business systems. ? Interact within an agile team environment. ? Develop test strategies and work with QA in developing test plans. ? Work with the business to support, define, and enhance content management implementations. Required Qualifications ? Strong communication skills. ? Experience in Interwoven Teamsite; Teamsite WorkFlow, OpenDeploy, advanced FormApi, and Configuration (2 years minimum). ? Experience with JavaScript, HTML, JAVA, Perl, XML (4-6 years minimum) . ? Ability to perform effectively in a demanding environment; proven ability to work in a team. ? Bachelors or Masters Degree in Computer Science or related field, or equivalent software development experience. ? Familiarity with the Unix Operating System. Desired Qualifications ? Experience developing clear technical documentation preferred. ? Experience with client side rich applications using AJAX or Flash is a plus ? Experience with PHP and Drupal, Python, or Ruby ? Publishing experience a plus. From lists at zaunere.com Sun Aug 10 17:35:25 2008 From: lists at zaunere.com (Hans Zaunere) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:35:25 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references In-Reply-To: <8F3B2139-D2CC-40C8-81D6-7DBB097BBC24@greenzer.com> References: <85338.93846.qm@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8F3B2139-D2CC-40C8-81D6-7DBB097BBC24@greenzer.com> Message-ID: <037001c8fb31$02392d50$06ab87f0$@com> All, At the end of the day, it's about what the market will bear. We feel that people should be able to post their availability, and at the same time critique each other in a professional manner. If you're not good at handling criticism, or cannot criticize constructively, then I'd recommend you not post. While there have been some unnecessary jab posts in this thread, overall this is the type of discussion that makes a jobs mailing list not just a repository of resumes and position listings (those sites already exist). This level of discussion provides: -- those seeking skill to see how someone can handle themselves and what's available in today's market -- those with skill to see what and what/not to do from others (their competition) -- those on both sides, to get a feel for the current market's strong areas, risks, etc. There are a number of adages that perhaps illustrate the democratic nature of free discussion (substitute "enemy" with "competition" where you feel necessary): Know thy enemy What goes around comes around Once bitten, twice shy Keep your friends close and your enemies closer If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen Fool me once, shame on you Fool me twice, shame on me Let's keep it clean and come out fighting Or, in the words from the FABULOUSLY BORING Mamma Mia movie that I saw last night with my girlfriend: The Name of the Game --- Hans Zaunere / President / New York PHP www.nyphp.org / ?www.nyphp.com > -----Original Message----- > From: jobs-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:jobs-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On > Behalf Of Mike Dikan > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 7:57 PM > To: Donna Marie Vincent > Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ > yrsofexp & good client references > > This has all been an interesting discussion, i think Ben has a lot of cheers > because we have all in some way or another had to feel the pain of cleaning up > someone else's code mess, be it foreign-built or otherwise. I think the point > that it wasn't the place do so might have some merit, but one point i haven't > heard mentioned is whether or not the NY PHP board is really the place for > Sundar or any other non-NY php developer to post about his services and expect > non-reproachful responses when he does so. > > > > What are the NY PHP list moderator's positions on that? > > > -Mike > > > On Aug 9, 2008, at 6:44 PM, Donna Marie Vincent wrote: > > > > Some people don't see anything unless and until it's happening to them. > If it doesn't have a negative impact on *you*, then I guess everything is > fine. > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: RDP > To: Donna Marie Vincent ; > jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2008 6:32:37 PM > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ > yrsofexp & good client references > > > Oh please Donna, the drama!! > > I didn't see any cruelty in Ben's observation. > > > > Rob > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Donna Marie Vincent > To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 1:32 PM > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with > about 5+ yrsofexp & good client references > > This is cruel and inappropriate. It's more about killing off > your competition to build yourself up than it is about providing helpful > information. Barbaric is another word that comes to mind. > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: RDP > To: sean at gcnpublishing.com; Andrew Wint > Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2008 12:41:27 PM > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with > about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references > > > I agree with Ben! Yay Ben! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sean Fulton > To: Andrew Wint > Cc: RDP ; > jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 12:25 PM > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig > with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references > > I disagree. This wasn't a former employer complaining > about a consultant's work, this was another consultant, a competitor if you > will, stating as fact something that no one can possibly double-check. I think > it's unfair, and am surprised that, on a list dedicated to helping consultants > find jobs, you folks would not be more concerned about it. I think this is the > first time I have seen someone in a public forum accuse someone of something > and not be called to provide proof of their claims. Very puzzling. > > No one knows what the job requirements were, what the > client's expectations were, or what the budget was. Did the client provide > enough time and budget to have the job done right, or did they just say, "Get > it done for next to nothing," and then when they realized the short-sidedness > of their approach, hire Ben to clean up the mess rather than go back to the > developer they low-balled and admit that they didn't give him enough time and > $$ to do the job correctly. We don't know. Ben won't even tell the list who > the client was or produce evidence of the inferior work. So to my mind, this > whole thread is quite unfair to the developer who originally posted his > availability and should be dropped. > > Finally, as you read this, please keep in mind that we are > a company that employs people on this list, that's why I subscribe. I have > employed developers here in the US and in six other countries. I find *no* > geo-political differences in coding skills. We evaluate developers based on > samples, client references and their ability to follow directions. I have had > more than a few developers who are so focused on developing "great code" that > they completely ignore the project specs, budget and time-lines. Those people > don't last long, but people who follow directions do. > > Again, without knowing the original assignment that Sundar > was given and what went on between he and the client at that time, facts which > I doubt even Ben knows, we really can't draw any useful conclusions nor should > we try. > > Just my $.02. > > sean > > > > > Andrew Wint wrote: > > All he did was to provide transparency, now we are > discussing the issues. Kristina gave very valid points about the 'delivery of > crappy code' and not being able to take action because they are in another > country. > > Another point is that this why we have standards of > development practices, these standards shouldn't be compromised they can bend > a bit but not break. Sundar needs to seek them out and adhere to them. > > I know it may seem harsh but it may help Sundar down > the line in his growth. As well as protect a small struggling company, > thinking they are saving money but falling into a trap. > > Ben did a good thing. > > > > > > On Aug 9, 2008, at 10:50 AM, RDP wrote: > > > > I'm sorry Donna, but I disagree. > > It's perfectly fine to express a view about > someone's work. > > Of course we make errors in our code, > everybody does. But you can't evaluate experience without examining ones > work. > > And employers DO give out this information. > Especially if an individual was let go because of inability. > > Finally, I'm having a problem imagining rows > of unemployed PHP coders down and out on skid-row in cardboard boxes, > homeless, because their work was criticized. > > Bye, > > Rob > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Donna Marie Vincent > > To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:26 > AM > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance > Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references > > It's not only unethical to publicly > disparage an individual's ability to perform a job, you could be subject to > legal action. > > Have you ever made an error while > performing your job duties? > > Even a former employer would not give > out this type of information. Do you want to be responsible for someone not > getting work, and ending up homeless on the street, because of your personal > opinion about their work, which may or may not be valid? > > This is not the same as publicly > criticizing a particular product, or a company's business practice. > > > > > --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro wrote: > > > From: Ben Sgro > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ > yrs of exp & good client references > To: > Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM > > > Hey, > > I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL injection, > XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc. > > Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and paste, no > functions. No layouts, templates or > smarty. > Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates. > > Be sure to request some source before you work with him. > > - Ben > > sundar rajan wrote: > > > > Hi > , > > > > > > I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ yrs > > of experience in building web applications . > > > > > > Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take: > > /Creating Custom scripts > > Member signup with email verification & login with session > authentication > > Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using FPDF > > > > libraries > > Command line processing of PHP scripts > > Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms > > Google Maps API > to display a location with > > > pop-up > info > > XML parsing to database > > CSV parsing to database > > RSS feeds using Carp > > Handling File uploads > > Generating statistics reports from the database values > > Generating Graphical reports from the database values > > Generating Excel download from the database > values > > Working with complex queries in Mysql console > > Building application with SEO friendly URLs > > Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in > > linux boxes > > / > > I can also take up bigger projects with proper > specification documents > > > along with the UI/HTML prototypes. > > > > > > Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com > > to know more about my skill-set , > > experiences , projects as > well as client references. > > > > As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 seller > > reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments. > > > > Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs. > > > > > > > > -- > > With regards, > > Sundar > > Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387 > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP > Community Jobs Mailing > List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing > List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York > PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > ________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > -- > Sean Fulton > GCN > Publishing, > Inc. > Internet Design, Development and Consulting For Today's > Media Companies > http://www.gcnpublishing.com > (203) 665-6211, x203 > > > > > ________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > From gary666 at hacksrus.com Mon Aug 11 07:34:58 2008 From: gary666 at hacksrus.com (gary666 at hacksrus.com) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:34:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Backhoe Operator - network management - up to 120K Message-ID: <177d5b568ad350be65e5de28a14deb1e.squirrel@mail.omnistep.com> We are looking for a backhoe operator to dig holes and move dirt from one location to another. While this job does not directly utilize PHP, by digging in specific locations deep enough, you have the ability to control access to thousands if not millions of internet PHP applications. Required qualifications: sharp spacial cognition, pushing levers forwards and backwards, J2EE web application development, and the ability to wolf whistle loudly. From k at krisgale.com Mon Aug 11 08:28:44 2008 From: k at krisgale.com (k at krisgale.com) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 05:28:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Backhoe Operator - network management - up to 120K In-Reply-To: <177d5b568ad350be65e5de28a14deb1e.squirrel@mail.omnistep.com> References: <177d5b568ad350be65e5de28a14deb1e.squirrel@mail.omnistep.com> Message-ID: <63458.70.91.36.165.1218457724.squirrel@webmail.krisgale.com> > We are looking for a backhoe operator to dig holes and move dirt from one > location to another. While this job does not directly utilize PHP, by > digging in specific locations deep enough, you have the ability to control > access to thousands if not millions of internet PHP applications. Required > qualifications: sharp spacial cognition, pushing levers forwards and > backwards, J2EE web application development, and the ability to wolf > whistle loudly. you just made my day, sir :) From codebowl at gmail.com Mon Aug 11 09:43:03 2008 From: codebowl at gmail.com (Joseph Crawford) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:43:03 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Backhoe Operator - network management - up to 120K In-Reply-To: <63458.70.91.36.165.1218457724.squirrel@webmail.krisgale.com> References: <177d5b568ad350be65e5de28a14deb1e.squirrel@mail.omnistep.com> <63458.70.91.36.165.1218457724.squirrel@webmail.krisgale.com> Message-ID: This is great thanks for the laugh ;) On Aug 11, 2008, at 8:28 AM, k at krisgale.com wrote: >> We are looking for a backhoe operator to dig holes and move dirt >> from one >> location to another. While this job does not directly utilize PHP, by >> digging in specific locations deep enough, you have the ability to >> control >> access to thousands if not millions of internet PHP applications. >> Required >> qualifications: sharp spacial cognition, pushing levers forwards and >> backwards, J2EE web application development, and the ability to wolf >> whistle loudly. > > you just made my day, sir :) > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php From michael at mgvassociates.com Mon Aug 11 11:21:48 2008 From: michael at mgvassociates.com (michael at mgvassociates.com) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:21:48 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Associate Internet Application Developer - NYPHP Message-ID: <004c01c8fbc6$0e725750$6438a8c0@Sonny> Hi All, I hope this email finds you well. I was referred to your group as one that may be able to assist me in filling a fulltime permanent position with a client of mine headquartered in Manhattan. My client is a well funded, profitable interactive media company that builds, monetizes and promotes social media applications for millions of users on FaceBook and other large social networks. They also help their large media clients develop, build, manage and promote similar applications that are targeted to specific user groups. They are looking for an online savvy, social network aware Associate Internet Application Developer to join their team. The ideal candidate would be someone with strong skills in PHP5, SQL (MySQL), OOP, XML, UML, HTML, CSS, Javascript and AJAX. Prior experience in Facebook application development would be a hugh advantage! The position reports to the VP of Engineering who I've known for many years. Great individual as well as a great company. The company offers excellent benefits and compensation is excellent for the right individual and includes stock options. Below, please find my contact information. If you or someone you know would be interested in hearing more about this position, please feel free to contact me at your earliest convenience. If you're interested in this position for yourself, please forward to me your resume in Word format so that we can discuss in more detail. Thank you and kind regards, Michael. _____________________________________ Michael Valentin President mgv associates, inc. T: 516.308.3600 C: 516.250.2842 F: 516.977.4441 E: michael at mgvassociates.com W: http://www.mgvassociates.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The ideal candidate would be someone with strong skills in PHP, SQL (MySQL), OOP, XML, UML, HTML, CSS, Javascript and AJAX. Prior experience in Java, C++, C# or Ruby on Rails would be a big plus. Facebook application development would be a hugh advantage! The position reports to the VP of Engineering who I've known for many years. Great individual as well as a great company. The company offers excellent benefits and compensation is excellent for the right individual and includes stock options. Below, please find my contact information. If you or someone you know would be interested in hearing more about this position, please feel free to contact me at your earliest convenience. If you're interested in this position for yourself, please forward to me your resume in Word format so that we can discuss in more detail. Thank you and kind regards, Michael. _____________________________________ Michael Valentin President mgv associates, inc. T: 516.308.3600 C: 516.250.2842 F: 516.977.4441 E: michael at mgvassociates.com W: http://www.mgvassociates.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jobs at oddcast.com Mon Aug 11 11:48:26 2008 From: jobs at oddcast.com (Odddcast Jobs) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:48:26 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] ODDCAST SEEKS A PHP DEVELOPER In-Reply-To: <544FC5466FDDBE49BB42E07D8318E84401B6E5C3@CHIMAIL01.us.spring.com> References: <544FC5466FDDBE49BB42E07D8318E84401B6E5C3@CHIMAIL01.us.spring.com> Message-ID: <055601c8fbc9$b320f920$b200670a@lithium> Oddcast, the Online leader in creating conversational characters (www.oddcast.com ) is seeking a PHP Developer. Please see below description. Thanks, Anne Aquilina Director of Human Resources About the Position This position is responsible for developing cutting edge media rich Internet applications & development tools. Be a part of a great and innovative team and be a driving force for continuous excellence through innovation. Develop cutting edge web applications. Research, analyze, implement and integrate new mechanisms and technologies within an interactive online environment. Design and develop database infrastructure and front end UI. Code, test and debug applications from written and verbal specifications. Utilize PHP, MySQL, MS-SQL, ODBC, XML, JavaScript, DHTML Requirements We are looking for an exceptional individual, capable of taking advantage of an empowering environment. Specific background must include: . B.Sc. in Computer Science or Mathematics . Experienced in development of rich media & ecommerce web applications . 2 to 5 years experience with PHP & mySQL. . Experience with Graphic, Audio & Video formats - highly desired . Self motivated, innovative, and capable of independent achievement Contact Info: Please send Resume and brief cover note including salary requirements to: Email: jobs at oddcast.com (please mention "PHP/MySQL Developer" in the subject line) _____ From: jobs-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:jobs-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On Behalf Of Christina Clark Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 11:01 AM To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Subject: [nycphp-jobs] PHP Developer- Fulltime/Perm position open A national online real estate company, is seeking a PHP Developer. Top level, innovative, web development department seeks experienced PHP developer to join a team of 8. This is a growth opportunity at a company with proven revenues and ongoing expansion. The site attracts more than 2 million unique visitors per month and the department is doing new and interesting web development on an ongoing basis. The candidate should have 5 years experience although exceptions will be made for people just out of school who demonstrate an exceptional set of skills (open source projects, etc.). The successful candidate will be an expert in at least one of these disciplines: * Object Oriented Programming (PHP 5, Java, Python, etc.) * XML * SQL (MySQL 5, Oracle, DB2, etc.) Our team has competence with all of these so the ideal candidate will be exceptional with one of the skills above in addition to having a core competency in the other two. The successful candidate will also have experience working with teams of at least 3 in a semi-formal development environment. Evaluating specifications, working with QA, unit testing, etc. are all facets of working on the team. Other desirable skills include: Search Engine Optimization, statistics, Information Architecture, and possibly other areas. Please include a cover letter indicating your experience and detailing specific projects on which you have worked. ***Seriously cool company - -very modern, hip.The candidate just needs to be technically real strong. First interview -phone tech screen with basics Second interview- face to face with possible written test. Christina Clark Technical Recruiter Glotel, Inc A division of Spring Group Plc. T: +1 212-223-6387 M: +1 917-288-5578 F: +1 212-223-5124 E: cclark at glotelinc.com www.glotel.com Global Technology resources and solutions. P Please consider the environment before printing this email. Even small changes can make a big impact. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kevin.wolkober at gmail.com Mon Aug 11 14:51:05 2008 From: kevin.wolkober at gmail.com (Kevin Wolkober) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:51:05 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Backhoe Operator - network management - up to 120K In-Reply-To: <177d5b568ad350be65e5de28a14deb1e.squirrel@mail.omnistep.com> References: <177d5b568ad350be65e5de28a14deb1e.squirrel@mail.omnistep.com> Message-ID: Hi Gary, I'm interested in the operator position. I do not have a backhoe-focused resume on hand, but I have dealt a lot with physical labor on a daily basis. My fingers are in great shape from my current grind, PHP. Therefore, I do not foresee any issues in lever operation. I do not have much experience with J2EE development, but I am a quick learner. I'll be straight with you on the wolf whistle. The best you're going to get out of me a whisper, but I am willing to substitute with a bark, various duck calls, or gratuitous shouting. I look forward to hearing from you soon. -Kevin On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 7:34 AM, wrote: > We are looking for a backhoe operator to dig holes and move dirt from one > location to another. While this job does not directly utilize PHP, by > digging in specific locations deep enough, you have the ability to control > access to thousands if not millions of internet PHP applications. Required > qualifications: sharp spacial cognition, pushing levers forwards and > backwards, J2EE web application development, and the ability to wolf > whistle loudly. > > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > From ka at kacomputerconsulting.com Mon Aug 11 15:02:23 2008 From: ka at kacomputerconsulting.com (Kristina Anderson) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:02:23 -0700 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Full Time PHP Job Wanted Message-ID: <1218481343.24547@coral.he.net> Greetings, Upon due consideration, I've decided that what's best for me right now is to transition from a freelance role into a full time PHP role. I want to spend my time writing code and building things. In fact, I NEED to be spending my time doing that, or what's the point? Instead I'm spending over 60% of my time just in keeping things afloat here, sending out RFPs, dealing with interminable phone calls and emails and meetings, being an accountant, a therapist and a collection agent... Resume will be sent upon request to any interested parties, and I'd welcome any suggestions. -Kristina ------------------- Kristina Anderson 646-247-4987 From dsteplight at gmail.com Mon Aug 11 15:03:48 2008 From: dsteplight at gmail.com (Darryle Steplight) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:03:48 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Backhoe Operator - network management - up to 120K In-Reply-To: References: <177d5b568ad350be65e5de28a14deb1e.squirrel@mail.omnistep.com> Message-ID: <47f4c4570808111203h43d8602t7e8039021b35a53@mail.gmail.com> Hi Gary, Unfortunately, I'm over qualified for this position. I'm interested in knowing if you are rewarding any referral points for 30 days of employment. I have a couple ex's I will like to sign up for the position. On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Kevin Wolkober wrote: > Hi Gary, > > I'm interested in the operator position. I do not have a > backhoe-focused resume on hand, but I have dealt a lot with physical > labor on a daily basis. My fingers are in great shape from my current > grind, PHP. Therefore, I do not foresee any issues in lever > operation. I do not have much experience with J2EE development, but I > am a quick learner. I'll be straight with you on the wolf whistle. > The best you're going to get out of me a whisper, but I am willing to > substitute with a bark, various duck calls, or gratuitous shouting. I > look forward to hearing from you soon. > > -Kevin > > > On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 7:34 AM, wrote: >> We are looking for a backhoe operator to dig holes and move dirt from one >> location to another. While this job does not directly utilize PHP, by >> digging in specific locations deep enough, you have the ability to control >> access to thousands if not millions of internet PHP applications. Required >> qualifications: sharp spacial cognition, pushing levers forwards and >> backwards, J2EE web application development, and the ability to wolf >> whistle loudly. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > From philip at noo.com Mon Aug 11 15:38:13 2008 From: philip at noo.com (Philip Cotty) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:38:13 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Startup Seeks Full-Time Developer In-Reply-To: <8875d9520808111233p63117b12kb95b89e216b92a10@mail.gmail.com> References: <8875d9520808111233p63117b12kb95b89e216b92a10@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8875d9520808111238i3f7bf6b8k87e4ca267e2dc7d3@mail.gmail.com> Noo Experiences, a division of the Noo Group Ltd. (www.noo.com), is seeking a bright developer to help enhance its fast growing high-profile web application. This developer will be expected to turn coherent features into high-quality software. You should be enthusiastic about your work, practical about solutions, open to new concepts, independent but take direction well, and able to deal well under pressure. You'll be reporting to and working directly with the CTO to add essential new features. Additional work on other projects by Noo is also very likely. You should have... ...practical experience with: coding in PHP5 building a database from SQL integrating HTML templates into a web framework ...demonstrated understanding of: development environments versioning systems web frameworks, (perferably Zend and Symfony) ...optional knowledge of or interest in: development methodologies system administration on linux Bug tracking systems US work permit (sorry, we can not issue work visas at this time) This position is great for a lightly seasoned developer who has some practical experience and is looking to add to their portfolio of public-facing systems. Come join us in our casual, centrally located office off Bryant Park (beautiful this time of year)! Compensation Full-time salary plus benefits. More Information For more information about this position please visit http://careers.noo.com/ To Apply Please send a cover letter, resume and salary requirements to careers {at} noo {dot} com From gary666 at hacksrus.com Mon Aug 11 17:41:09 2008 From: gary666 at hacksrus.com (gary666 at hacksrus.com) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:41:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Backhoe Operator - network management - up to 120K In-Reply-To: <48A0AF84.40300@omnistep.com> References: <48A0AF84.40300@omnistep.com> Message-ID: <2f578d5a10e19b5d49473abd8aa267c4.squirrel@mail.omnistep.com> > Hi Gary, > Unfortunately, I'm over qualified for this position. I'm > interested in knowing if you are rewarding any referral points for 30 > days of employment. I have a couple ex's I will like to sign up for > the position. > Hello Darryle, I'm sorry you might have misread. The job description is seeking candidates experienced with dirt and backhoes, not dirty ho's. ~Gary666 From callaire at talener.com Tue Aug 12 17:38:43 2008 From: callaire at talener.com (Chris Allaire) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:38:43 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] 4 month contract Message-ID: <025b01c8fcc3$cc9554a0$65bffde0$@com> I have an international client looking for a PHP developer to do some back end development work and customization of Drupal. The role is roughly 3-4 months paying around 55/hour 1099 in midtown Manhattan. Call me or email me if you would like to hear more about the company. Thanks! Chris Allaire Talener Group, LLC 212.209.3976 www.talener.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisallaire Quality breeds quality -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From codebowl at gmail.com Tue Aug 12 18:15:11 2008 From: codebowl at gmail.com (Joseph Crawford) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:15:11 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Please remove me from you distribution list In-Reply-To: <20080812151209.fe8357a1bd7c26a8ea0a0bcbcdb71bc2.d32b8caa31.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20080812151209.fe8357a1bd7c26a8ea0a0bcbcdb71bc2.d32b8caa31.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: lists.nyphp.org unsubscribe yourself On Aug 12, 2008, at 6:12 PM, michael.toney at pritechnology.com wrote: > I have been trying to get off the list as well but they won't let me > off.... > > HELP.....LOL > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Please remove me from you distribution list > From: "Melanie Martines" > Date: Tue, August 12, 2008 5:51 pm > To: > > Hello: > > I've tried numerous times to delete myself from your distribution > list. > > Could you please assist. 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I am still getting emails... >> >> Thank you very much! >> >> Melanie >> >> *Melanie Martines** >> Executive Administrator** >> Selling Source, LLC** >> Marketing & Technology for the Financial Sector* >> Melanie.Martines at SellingSource.com >> >> P: 702-407-0707 ext. 2195 >> D: 702-851-9566 >> F: 702-835-8910 >> >> ** >> >> *Confidentiality Statement & Notice:* This email is covered by >> the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521 >> and intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom >> it is addressed as it may contain confidential and legally >> privileged information subject to the attorney/client privilege. >> E-mail transmission is not intended to waive the attorney-client >> privilege or any other privilege. Any review, retransmission, >> dissemination to unauthorized persons or other use of the >> original message and any attachments is strictly prohibited. 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Thank you for your cooperation. >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php From webmiester at gmail.com Tue Aug 12 20:43:55 2008 From: webmiester at gmail.com (RDP) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:43:55 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Please remove me from you distribution list References: <20080812151209.fe8357a1bd7c26a8ea0a0bcbcdb71bc2.d32b8caa31.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <8295BEB8ADA4438BB2E11E22B6D1EC8E@RDP> You can't leave!! We've got you trapped! Ahahahahha!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: michael.toney at pritechnology.com To: Melanie Martines Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:12 PM Subject: RE: [nycphp-jobs] Please remove me from you distribution list I have been trying to get off the list as well but they won't let me off.... HELP.....LOL -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Please remove me from you distribution list From: "Melanie Martines" Date: Tue, August 12, 2008 5:51 pm To: Hello: I've tried numerous times to delete myself from your distribution list. Could you please assist. I am still getting emails... Thank you very much! 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URL: From gary066 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 12 23:49:27 2008 From: gary066 at yahoo.com (gary066 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:49:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Tech Manager - Up to 150K salary In-Reply-To: <85338.93846.qm@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <906465.23792.qm@web32707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This is for a technical manager for a premier media company. Need someone with a strong J2EE technical background, although this is a managerial level position. Some job functions: ? Oversee development of web application functionality ? Evaluate business requirements for technical feasibility ? Estimate, plan, track and provide status on technical projects and activities ? Identify and mitigate project risks ? Hire, train, mentor and manage developers ? Perform technical design and code reviews ? Approve and commit code for integration ? Design and develop application features ? Be a primary problem solving resource ? Oversee the technical work of vendor consultants and consulting teams ? Define and enforce company technical standards and best practices ? Evaluate technology vendors and products ? Develop, improve and enforce software development processes Required Skills: ? The candidate must have a BA/BS degree and 7+ years professional experience and a minimum of three years supervisory experience. ? J2EE web application development (Servlets, JDBC, JSP, Javascript, etc.) ? Web application frameworks such as Struts, Spring, SiteMesh ? Data modeling and SQL ? Object-relational mapping frameworks such as Hibernate or EJB3 ? Internet technologies (TCP/IP, HTTP, SMTP, XML, RSS, AJAX, etc.) ? Software engineering methodologies ? Version control and release management practices ? Development and deployment of applications on Unix / Linux. ? Load testing, profiling and performance tuning. ? Shell scripting Desired Skills: ? Online publishing / media industry ? Content management systems such as Interwoven TeamSite ? Online community applications and services (forums, blogs, etc.) ? Alternative web development languages and frameworks, such as Grails, Ruby on Rails, Django, PHP and / or Flex _________________ From bzcoder at bzcode.com Wed Aug 13 06:26:53 2008 From: bzcoder at bzcode.com (bzcoder) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 06:26:53 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Please remove me from you distribution list In-Reply-To: <48A21751.203@omnistep.com> References: <20080812151209.fe8357a1bd7c26a8ea0a0bcbcdb71bc2.d32b8caa31.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <48A21751.203@omnistep.com> Message-ID: <48A2B6ED.9010607@bzcode.com> Rolan Yang wrote: > Oh and if you can't get a grasp of the web interface, just email > "jobs-unsubscribe at lists.nyphp.org" > > I configure all my mailing lists to insert a footer with unsubscribe > info like > > "To unsubscribe from this list, email jobs-unsubscribe at lists.nyphp.org" > > People do still post "how do I unsubscribe" emails, but much fewer. It is also useful to include a "you are subscribed as xxx at yyy" along with the instructions. Out of approximately 200,000 subscribers, at least 10 a month will forget that they forwarded all the email from address X to address Y - resulting in them trying to unsubscribe with their new address and the system either saying "ok your unsubscribed" if it's stupid or "I don't know who you are" if it is smart. Either way, the person is stuck on the list. Out of 10 people failing to unsubscribe due to forwarding issues, 1 will be someone who inherited a job someone else did who left the company, and so had all their email forwarded to the new persons address[often not even knowing it] - so its a good idea not to get too cranky at people for not realising their subscription is to the wrong address. _And not all of them can be expected to look through the headers for the line _ Received: from ne3.nyphp.com ([207.58.185.222]:48172) by cl38.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KT3E1-0004Vs-TV for bzcoder at bzcode.com; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:24:27 -0700 To determine that despite this email coming to my private email box, it was sent to my public bzcoder throwaway address. BTW, this especially applies for commercial email as you don't want people to start hitting the "this is spam" button in frustration. From bzcoder at bzcode.com Wed Aug 13 06:30:43 2008 From: bzcoder at bzcode.com (bzcoder) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 06:30:43 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Tech Manager - Up to 150K salary In-Reply-To: <906465.23792.qm@web32707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <906465.23792.qm@web32707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48A2B7D3.1010509@bzcode.com> IMHO, I much prefer to see overseas people willing to telecommute posting their availability to nyPHP jobs, regardless of whether they are competition or not and whether they spark debates over past practices - than to see Java specific jobs posted to the PHP list. gary066 at yahoo.com wrote: > This is for a technical manager for a premier media company. Need someone with a strong J2EE technical background, although this is a managerial level position. Some job functions: > > From lists at enobrev.com Wed Aug 13 07:26:43 2008 From: lists at enobrev.com (Mark Armendariz) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:26:43 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Please remove me from you distribution list In-Reply-To: <48A2B6ED.9010607@bzcode.com> References: <20080812151209.fe8357a1bd7c26a8ea0a0bcbcdb71bc2.d32b8caa31.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <48A21751.203@omnistep.com> <48A2B6ED.9010607@bzcode.com> Message-ID: <48A2C4F3.5030808@enobrev.com> > Received: from ne3.nyphp.com ([207.58.185.222]:48172) > by cl38.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtps > (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) > (Exim 4.63) > (envelope-from ) > id 1KT3E1-0004Vs-TV > for bzcoder at bzcode.com; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:24:27 -0700 > > To determine that despite this email coming to my private email box, > it was sent to my public bzcoder throwaway address. > > BTW, this especially applies for commercial email as you don't want > people to start hitting the "this is spam" button in frustration. This reminds me of a thought I had the other day. Wouldn't it make sense to add an "unsubscribe" field to the email spec, which would allow spam blockers to start an "auto-unsubscribe" conversation with the originating sender before explicitly marking it as spam? Would also allow a default "unsubscribe" button in all email clients. I hate to think of how many legitimate mailing lists have been marked as spam as a simplified (and reliable) means to unsubscribe. From brian at realm3.com Wed Aug 13 08:01:43 2008 From: brian at realm3.com (Brian D.) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:01:43 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Tech Manager - Up to 150K salary In-Reply-To: <48A2B7D3.1010509@bzcode.com> References: <906465.23792.qm@web32707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <48A2B7D3.1010509@bzcode.com> Message-ID: I tend to agree, and find it amusing that Gary somehow failed to take the hint. On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 6:30 AM, bzcoder wrote: > IMHO, I much prefer to see overseas people willing to telecommute > posting their availability to nyPHP jobs, regardless of whether they are > competition or not and whether they spark debates over past practices - > than to see Java specific jobs posted to the PHP list. > > gary066 at yahoo.com wrote: >> >> This is for a technical manager for a premier media company. Need someone >> with a strong J2EE technical background, although this is a managerial level >> position. Some job functions: >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -- realm3 web applications [realm3.com] Information architecture, application development. phone: (917) 512-3594 fax: (440) 744-3559 From gary066 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 13 09:26:34 2008 From: gary066 at yahoo.com (gary066 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 06:26:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Tech Manager - Up to 150K salary In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <216661.1182.qm@web32705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sorry all, I meant to send these to my nyjava jobs list... Brian D. wrote: > I tend to agree, and find it amusing that Gary somehow failed to take the hint. > On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 6:30 AM, bzcoder wrote: >> IMHO, I much prefer to see overseas people willing to telecommute >> posting their availability to nyPHP jobs, regardless of whether they are >> competition or not and whether they spark debates over past practices - >> than to see Java specific jobs posted to the PHP list. >> >> gary066 at yahoo.com wrote: >>> >>> This is for a technical manager for a premier media company. Need someone >>> with a strong J2EE technical background, although this is a managerial level >>> position. Some job functions: >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> > -- > realm3 web applications [realm3.com] > Information architecture, application development. > phone: (917) 512-3594 > fax: (440) 744-3559 > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php From lists at zaunere.com Wed Aug 13 09:55:17 2008 From: lists at zaunere.com (Hans Zaunere) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:55:17 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Please remove me from you distribution list In-Reply-To: <20080812151209.fe8357a1bd7c26a8ea0a0bcbcdb71bc2.d32b8caa31.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20080812151209.fe8357a1bd7c26a8ea0a0bcbcdb71bc2.d32b8caa31.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <001301c8fd4c$379c9690$a6d5c3b0$@com> > I have been trying to get off the list as well but they won't let me off.... Yeah, we won't let you leave... Folks, this is a mailing list. If you've been able to subscribe, note the email address that you're receiving the mail on and unsubscribe. If you don't know, look at the email header. Regardless, this is easily done at: http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs And a quick note on the list in general... Lately there's been a lot of traffic. As I mentioned in my previous post, while we want to avoid flames and list noise as we do on all NYPHP mailing lists, this is after all a mailing list. This means useful discussion is welcomed and will not be moderated. If you're here to either post your resume, scalp resumes, or find that "perfect developer" without knowing the market, then you are encouraged to subscribe and unsubscribe as suits your needs. That said, we are considering developing a moderated list with a web form, time permitting, that will only allow open positions to be posted. Thoughts, feedback? Help/moderators? Hans Zaunere / President / New York PHP www.nyphp.org / www.nyphp.com From anthony at thrillist.com Wed Aug 13 10:15:27 2008 From: anthony at thrillist.com (Anthony Wlodarski) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:15:27 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Please remove me from you distribution list In-Reply-To: <001301c8fd4c$379c9690$a6d5c3b0$@com> References: <20080812151209.fe8357a1bd7c26a8ea0a0bcbcdb71bc2.d32b8caa31.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <001301c8fd4c$379c9690$a6d5c3b0$@com> Message-ID: <48A2EC7F.7010801@thrillist.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smanes at magpie.com Wed Aug 13 10:25:25 2008 From: smanes at magpie.com (Steve Manes) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:25:25 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Please remove me from you distribution list In-Reply-To: <001301c8fd4c$379c9690$a6d5c3b0$@com> References: <20080812151209.fe8357a1bd7c26a8ea0a0bcbcdb71bc2.d32b8caa31.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <001301c8fd4c$379c9690$a6d5c3b0$@com> Message-ID: <48A2EED5.3050607@magpie.com> Hans Zaunere wrote: > That said, we are considering developing a moderated list with a web > form, time permitting, that will only allow open positions to > be posted. Thoughts, feedback? Help/moderators? I've no problems with the way it is now. I can see why some recruiters might not appreciate the potential for negative feedback but the target market for the list is after all us and not recruiters. I appreciate seeing the comments so long as they stay on point and don't beat the dead and burned beyond all recognition horse. From brian at realm3.com Wed Aug 13 10:41:51 2008 From: brian at realm3.com (Brian Dailey) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:41:51 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Please remove me from you distribution list In-Reply-To: <48A2EED5.3050607@magpie.com> References: <20080812151209.fe8357a1bd7c26a8ea0a0bcbcdb71bc2.d32b8caa31.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <001301c8fd4c$379c9690$a6d5c3b0$@com> <48A2EED5.3050607@magpie.com> Message-ID: <48A2F2AF.6040206@realm3.com> I agree. There are already a plethora of "job boards" available for recruiters and HR departments. I like the down & dirty version of the NYPHP mailing list. It also amuses me to see email messages that start with, "Hi, I would like you to post this for me..." - Brian Steve Manes wrote: > Hans Zaunere wrote: >> That said, we are considering developing a moderated list with a web >> form, time permitting, that will only allow open positions to >> be posted. Thoughts, feedback? Help/moderators? > > I've no problems with the way it is now. I can see why some recruiters > might not appreciate the potential for negative feedback but the target > market for the list is after all us and not recruiters. I appreciate > seeing the comments so long as they stay on point and don't beat the > dead and burned beyond all recognition horse. > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -- realm3 web applications [realm3.com] Information architecture, application development. phone: (917) 512-3594 fax: (440) 744-3559 From henry.lihn at gmail.com Wed Aug 13 12:59:04 2008 From: henry.lihn at gmail.com (Henry Lihn) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:59:04 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] PHP Developer needed Message-ID: <54a0090a0808130959y4c0fe2cau1246db0a5f440c3e@mail.gmail.com> Up-and-coming Downtown New York media agency specializing in digital brand presence is seeking enthusiastic talent for web design and web development. Experience in PHP, Ruby, XHTML/CSS requested. Clients include LOLA New York, Rocawear, SeamlessWeb, Teany, Interview Magazine, and more. Great work environment, clients, and opportunity to grow. Please email us at design at ginlanemedia.com -- Henry Lihn Gin Lane Media 195 Chrystie ST Suite 502G New York, NY 10002 917 686 1979 www.ginlanemedia.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hans at cyberxdesigns.com Wed Aug 13 13:14:23 2008 From: hans at cyberxdesigns.com (Hans Kaspersetz) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:14:23 -0500 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Please remove me from you distribution list In-Reply-To: <001301c8fd4c$379c9690$a6d5c3b0$@com> References: <20080812151209.fe8357a1bd7c26a8ea0a0bcbcdb71bc2.d32b8caa31.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <001301c8fd4c$379c9690$a6d5c3b0$@com> Message-ID: <48A3166F.1020205@cyberxdesigns.com> > That said, we are considering developing a moderated list with a web form, time permitting, that will only allow open positions to be posted. Thoughts, feedback? Help/moderators? > > > Hans, I would be willing to moderate that list. Although, that solution seems to already exist in the market place and I am not sure we really need it. I think there is something unique about how our job list works and it feels like a real meritocracy and provides for a open two way channel. If we cut off half that, then we become more like a media channel and the conversation becomes one sided. I would like to imagine that our complaints (suggestions) about the job listings have improved the quality of them. Maybe I am alone, but I have found the recent discourse on this list to be of more value then the talk list and would like to keep it lively. If we give the recruiters a way out, a 'safe harbor' for posting, then we opt to exclude ourselves from half the conversation. Your email the other day really outlined why this list is important and worthwhile. Hans From webmiester at gmail.com Wed Aug 13 15:24:55 2008 From: webmiester at gmail.com (RDP) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:24:55 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Please remove me from you distribution list References: <20080812151209.fe8357a1bd7c26a8ea0a0bcbcdb71bc2.d32b8caa31.wbe@email.secureserver.net><001301c8fd4c$379c9690$a6d5c3b0$@com> <48A3166F.1020205@cyberxdesigns.com> Message-ID: <3505D32586F643E4B6E4098849B1E684@RDP> Hans, I hope this works. With a name that rolls off the tongue, "Hans Kaspersetz," it should work. Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hans Kaspersetz" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Please remove me from you distribution list > >> That said, we are considering developing a moderated list with a web >> form, time permitting, that will only allow open positions to be posted. >> Thoughts, feedback? Help/moderators? >> >> >> > > Hans, > > I would be willing to moderate that list. Although, that solution seems > to already exist in the market place and I am not sure we really need it. > I think there is something unique about how our job list works and it > feels like a real meritocracy and provides for a open two way channel. If > we cut off half that, then we become more like a media channel and the > conversation becomes one sided. I would like to imagine that our > complaints (suggestions) about the job listings have improved the quality > of them. > > Maybe I am alone, but I have found the recent discourse on this list to > be of more value then the talk list and would like to keep it lively. If > we give the recruiters a way out, a 'safe harbor' for posting, then we opt > to exclude ourselves from half the conversation. Your email the other day > really outlined why this list is important and worthwhile. > > Hans > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php From matt at atopia.net Wed Aug 13 15:26:51 2008 From: matt at atopia.net (Matt Juszczak) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:26:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Please remove me from you distribution list In-Reply-To: <3505D32586F643E4B6E4098849B1E684@RDP> References: <20080812151209.fe8357a1bd7c26a8ea0a0bcbcdb71bc2.d32b8caa31.wbe@email.secureserver.net><001301c8fd4c$379c9690$a6d5c3b0$@com> <48A3166F.1020205@cyberxdesigns.com> <3505D32586F643E4B6E4098849B1E684@RDP> Message-ID: <20080813152620.V41397@mercury.atopia.net> >> Hans, >> >> I would be willing to moderate that list. Although, that solution seems to >> already exist in the market place and I am not sure we really need it. >> I think there is something unique about how our job list works and it feels >> like a real meritocracy and provides for a open two way channel. If we cut >> off half that, then we become more like a media channel and the >> conversation becomes one sided. I would like to imagine that our >> complaints (suggestions) about the job listings have improved the quality >> of them. >> >> Maybe I am alone, but I have found the recent discourse on this list to be >> of more value then the talk list and would like to keep it lively. If we >> give the recruiters a way out, a 'safe harbor' for posting, then we opt to >> exclude ourselves from half the conversation. Your email the other day >> really outlined why this list is important and worthwhile. I agree. We should in no way modify the functionality of the jobs list. It is incredibly helpful the way it is. -Matt From alex at thehappycorp.com Wed Aug 13 17:50:54 2008 From: alex at thehappycorp.com (Alex Sturtevant) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:50:54 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] thehappycorp Seeks Creative Programmers Message-ID: <19BC1522-9EF5-4B8E-9F29-234E998BD707@thehappycorp.com> SEEKING A CREATIVE PROGRAMMER WHO ARE WE? We?re thehappycorp global, but you can call us thehappycorp. We are a brand- ing and marketing company with the insight of digital design, technology and experience. We are young, successful, and fun. Our strategic insights are com- plemented by a production group and digital marketing consultants who work hand-in-hand with our creative team. We are looking for talented people and we offer an excellent career opportunity for new employees. JOB DESCRIPTION You will be the main developer for various programming projects. You will be your own department and work closely with the producers, designers and crea- tive director to manage all technical work. This will include build websites, and other interactive applications for both client and internal projects. This role offers the chance to develop a business with experienced entrepre- neurs and, for the right individual, the future potential to develop an executive role within this fast growing company. This is a great opportunity to revitalize a stagnant career, or start the one you have always wanted; at a company filled with hardworking, talented and fun people. WHO ARE YOU? You love to make great design sing with your code for great design. You are an entrepreneur at heart and want to work in a fast paced, fun environment. You?re personable, driven and love to go above and beyond what is required of you on projects. You are restless and looking to work with an innovative new company that has a great team. You like learning. You?re extremely organized and a self-starter. You are US based. DETAILS ? Position Type: Full-Time, Employee ? Experience Desired: 2+ Years Experience ? Desired Education Level: Bachelor's degree ? Salary Range: 45-75 k depending on experience REQUIREMENTS ? Semantic, standards-compliant XHTML and CSS (2+ years) ? PHP & mySQL (1+ years) ? Experience with Wordpress 2.4 and 2.5 - Must have a thorough understanding of the template hierarchy, actions and filters, and be able to create themes and plugins from scratch, or be able to modify existing plugins. ? Basic Photoshop and Illustrator ? Basic knowledge on how to purchase and transfer domains ? Basic knowledge of cPanel, especially password-protecting directo- ries on the server, creating and administering email accounts, and creating FTP usernames and passwords ? Strong organizational skills ? Ability to multi-task on many concurrent projects ? Sound technical judgment that comes from ability to synthesize consumer perspective with complex business/product needs ? Team player and diplomatic ? Desire to be pro-active, and learn new technologies ? Be a problem-solver and listener on all client engagements ? Deep knowledge of blogs, social networks, and digital media DESIRED SKILLS ? Actionscript 3.0, especially displaying dynamic data from PHP or XML ? Javascript ? Experience with jquery, prototype, or similar library to create ef- fects and animations ? Experience with Zencart ? Experience with Smarty ? Previous work experience in the digital media industry ? Working knowledge of ad tracking and statistical software ? Self starter who enjoys entrepreneurial environments BENEFITS All time employees are enrolled in the company healthcare plan. All employees receive 15 days of personal time (includes vacation, sick days etc). The details of the plan and the vacation policy are detailed in the company handbook, which will be delivered when an offer is extended. Company Holidays Thanksgiving - 2 days off Christmas - 2 days off New Years - 1 day off Memorial Day - 1 day off 4th of July - 1 day off Labor Day - 1 day off INCENTIVES Occasional company happy hours Access to company ZipCar account Access to influential network of media and creative leaders TO APPLY No faxes or phone calls, please. If interested, please send a resume and a cover letter to jobs at thehappycorp.com with ?Creative Programmer? in the subject line. Please copy your resume and cover letter into the body of the email as well as attaching these documents as Microsoft Word, Apple Pages and/or PDF files only! Thanks and have a nice day. CLIENTS, PARTNERS, SUBSIDIARIES With all of our clients, we try to analyze the positive or negative effect they make on the world and use the analysis to help guide our decision making proc- ess. While not a full-proof selection methodology, it is a primary thought that is taken into consideration. Here are a few current and past clients: CURRENT CLIENTS Apple apple.com Idealist idealist.org Miraval Resorts miravalresorts.com baby gooroo babygooroo.com T Ching tching.com Brooklyn Brewery brooklynbrewery.com Max?s Kansas City maxskansascity.com PAST CLIENTS Stanton & Company stanton-company.com Sneaux areyoualwaysbored.com Gift Genius giftgenius.com Ooma ooma.com Heeb Magazine heebonline.com Major League Gaming mlgpro.com Takkle takkle.com PAST AGENCY PARTNERS Anomaly TBWA \ Chiat \ Day Wieden Kennedy Kaplan Thaler Group SUBSIDIARIES LVHRD Arts club fueling creative professionals through an unconven- tional event series and digital media channels (blog, video). AAARRR The pirate studio. We do 3D, motion graphics, print, and video production work for some of the world?s largest and most suc- cessful agencies and brands. Largetail A niche media ad network for publishers with a well defined, and influential audience helping quality brands communicate with the audience effectively. alex sturtevant producer thehappycorp.com 407 Broome Street 5th Floor, New York, NY 10013-3213, USA, EARTH mobile +1(781) 929 5171 direct +1 (646) 613 1220 x114 website \ aim \ facebook \ flickr -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ka at kacomputerconsulting.com Wed Aug 13 18:11:10 2008 From: ka at kacomputerconsulting.com (Kristina Anderson) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:11:10 -0700 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] thehappycorp Seeks Creative Programmers Message-ID: <1218665470.22571@coral.he.net> Speaking of valuable dialogue here on our jobs discussion list, the below job listing prompts me to comment: Why not just come out and say that you are looking for some 24 year old ("We are young, successful, and fun") who is willing to work 60 hours a week for what did you say, 45K?? ("Salary Range: 45-75 k depending on experience"). "INCENTIVES > Occasional company happy hours" This means that in addition to working 60 hours a week for slave wages, you also want me to spend some of my very valuable free time drinking with you and pretending to actually like you?? Oh dear. How much did you say you were going to pay me, again? "> Access to company ZipCar account" No doubt because of another night working until 11 PM, methinks...? Also, detailed enumeration of company paid holidays is really not necessary in an initial ad...it's not as though all the other companies don't have the same deal. Eek. > > > SEEKING A CREATIVE PROGRAMMER > > WHO ARE WE? > We?re thehappycorp global, but you can call us thehappycorp. We are > a brand- > ing and marketing company with the insight of digital design, > technology and > experience. We are young, successful, and fun. Our strategic > insights are com- > plemented by a production group and digital marketing consultants who > work > hand-in-hand with our creative team. We are looking for talented > people and we > offer an excellent career opportunity for new employees. > > JOB DESCRIPTION > You will be the main developer for various programming projects. You > will be > your own department and work closely with the producers, designers > and crea- > tive director to manage all technical work. This will include build > websites, and > other interactive applications for both client and internal projects. > This role offers the chance to develop a business with experienced > entrepre- > neurs and, for the right individual, the future potential to develop > an executive > role within this fast growing company. This is a great opportunity > to revitalize a > stagnant career, or start the one you have always wanted; at a > company filled > with hardworking, talented and fun people. > > WHO ARE YOU? > You love to make great design sing with your code for great design. > You are an > entrepreneur at heart and want to work in a fast paced, fun environment. > You?re personable, driven and love to go above and beyond what is > required of > you on projects. You are restless and looking to work with an > innovative new > company that has a great team. You like learning. You?re extremely > organized > and a self-starter. You are US based. > > DETAILS > ? Position Type: Full-Time, Employee > ? Experience Desired: 2+ Years Experience > ? Desired Education Level: Bachelor's degree > ? Salary Range: 45-75 k depending on experience > > REQUIREMENTS > ? Semantic, standards-compliant XHTML and CSS (2+ years) > ? PHP & mySQL (1+ years) > ? Experience with Wordpress 2.4 and 2.5 - Must have a thorough > understanding of the template hierarchy, actions and filters, and > be able to create themes and plugins from scratch, or be able to > modify existing plugins. > ? Basic Photoshop and Illustrator > ? Basic knowledge on how to purchase and transfer domains > ? Basic knowledge of cPanel, especially password-protecting directo- > ries on the server, creating and administering email accounts, and > creating FTP usernames and passwords > ? Strong organizational skills > ? Ability to multi-task on many concurrent projects > ? Sound technical judgment that comes from ability to synthesize > consumer perspective with complex business/product needs > ? Team player and diplomatic > ? Desire to be pro-active, and learn new technologies > ? Be a problem-solver and listener on all client engagements > ? Deep knowledge of blogs, social networks, and digital media > > DESIRED SKILLS > ? Actionscript 3.0, especially displaying dynamic data from PHP or > XML > ? Javascript > ? Experience with jquery, prototype, or similar library to create ef- > fects and animations > ? Experience with Zencart > ? Experience with Smarty > ? Previous work experience in the digital media industry > ? Working knowledge of ad tracking and statistical software > ? Self starter who enjoys entrepreneurial environments > > BENEFITS > All time employees are enrolled in the company healthcare plan. All > employees > receive 15 days of personal time (includes vacation, sick days etc). > The details of > the plan and the vacation policy are detailed in the company > handbook, which > will be delivered when an offer is extended. > Company Holidays > Thanksgiving - 2 days off > Christmas - 2 days off > New Years - 1 day off > Memorial Day - 1 day off > 4th of July - 1 day off > Labor Day - 1 day off > > INCENTIVES > Occasional company happy hours > Access to company ZipCar account > Access to influential network of media and creative leaders > > TO APPLY > No faxes or phone calls, please. If interested, please send a resume > and a cover > letter to jobs at thehappycorp.com with ?Creative Programmer? in the > subject > line. Please copy your resume and cover letter into the body of the > email as well > as attaching these documents as Microsoft Word, Apple Pages and/or > PDF files > only! Thanks and have a nice day. > > CLIENTS, PARTNERS, SUBSIDIARIES > With all of our clients, we try to analyze the positive or negative > effect they > make on the world and use the analysis to help guide our decision > making proc- > ess. While not a full-proof selection methodology, it is a primary > thought that is > taken into consideration. Here are a few current and past clients: > > CURRENT CLIENTS > Apple apple.com > Idealist idealist.org > Miraval Resorts miravalresorts.com > baby gooroo babygooroo.com > T Ching tching.com > Brooklyn Brewery brooklynbrewery.com > Max?s Kansas City maxskansascity.com > > PAST CLIENTS > Stanton & Company stanton-company.com > Sneaux areyoualwaysbored.com > Gift Genius giftgenius.com > Ooma ooma.com > Heeb Magazine heebonline.com > Major League Gaming mlgpro.com > Takkle takkle.com > > PAST AGENCY PARTNERS > Anomaly > TBWA \ Chiat \ Day > Wieden Kennedy > Kaplan Thaler Group > > SUBSIDIARIES > LVHRD > Arts club fueling creative professionals through an unconven- > tional event series and digital media channels (blog, video). > > AAARRR > The pirate studio. We do 3D, motion graphics, print, and video > production work for some of the world?s largest and most suc- > cessful agencies and brands. > > Largetail > A niche media ad network for publishers with a well defined, > and influential audience helping quality brands communicate > with the audience effectively. > > alex sturtevant producer > thehappycorp.com > 407 Broome Street 5th Floor, New York, NY 10013-3213, USA, EARTH > mobile +1(781) 929 5171 direct +1 (646) 613 1220 x114 > website \ aim \ facebook \ flickr > > > From rolan at omnistep.com Wed Aug 13 19:30:53 2008 From: rolan at omnistep.com (Rolan Yang) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:30:53 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] thehappycorp Seeks Creative Programmers In-Reply-To: <1218665470.22571@coral.he.net> References: <1218665470.22571@coral.he.net> Message-ID: <48A36EAD.2040400@omnistep.com> Alright lets not get too hostile here. At least the post was legitimately seeing a PHP developer. ~Rolan Kristina Anderson wrote: > Speaking of valuable dialogue here on our jobs discussion list, the > below job listing prompts me to comment: > > Why not just come out and say that you are looking for some 24 year old > ("We are young, successful, and fun") who is willing to work 60 hours a > week for what did you say, 45K?? ("Salary Range: 45-75 k depending on > experience"). > > From ka at kacomputerconsulting.com Wed Aug 13 19:32:43 2008 From: ka at kacomputerconsulting.com (Kristina Anderson) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:32:43 -0700 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] thehappycorp Seeks Creative Programmers Message-ID: <1218670363.27094@coral.he.net> Everyone -- sorry if this was inappropriate of me! Will not happen again. -- Kristina > Alright lets not get too hostile here. At least the post was > legitimately seeing a PHP developer. > > ~Rolan > > Kristina Anderson wrote: > > Speaking of valuable dialogue here on our jobs discussion list, the > > below job listing prompts me to comment: > > > > Why not just come out and say that you are looking for some 24 year old > > ("We are young, successful, and fun") who is willing to work 60 hours a > > week for what did you say, 45K?? ("Salary Range: 45-75 k depending on > > experience"). > > > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > \ From ka at kacomputerconsulting.com Wed Aug 13 19:32:41 2008 From: ka at kacomputerconsulting.com (Kristina Anderson) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:32:41 -0700 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] thehappycorp Seeks Creative Programmers Message-ID: <1218670361.27090@coral.he.net> Everyone -- sorry if this was inappropriate of me! Will not happen again. -- Kristina > Alright lets not get too hostile here. At least the post was > legitimately seeing a PHP developer. > > ~Rolan > > Kristina Anderson wrote: > > Speaking of valuable dialogue here on our jobs discussion list, the > > below job listing prompts me to comment: > > > > Why not just come out and say that you are looking for some 24 year old > > ("We are young, successful, and fun") who is willing to work 60 hours a > > week for what did you say, 45K?? ("Salary Range: 45-75 k depending on > > experience"). > > > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > \ From webmiester at gmail.com Wed Aug 13 21:36:50 2008 From: webmiester at gmail.com (RDP) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:36:50 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] thehappycorp Seeks Creative Programmers References: <1218670363.27094@coral.he.net> Message-ID: <6AD07586FB2D49E291E28429FE5F2936@RDP> Actually, I tend to agree with Kristina and her comments about the "happy and peppy and bursting with love" corp. A zipcar account?? I already have one anyway. Show me the money! Yay for Kristina! Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] thehappycorp Seeks Creative Programmers > Everyone -- sorry if this was inappropriate of me! Will not happen > again. > > -- Kristina > >> Alright lets not get too hostile here. At least the post was >> legitimately seeing a PHP developer. >> >> ~Rolan >> >> Kristina Anderson wrote: >> > Speaking of valuable dialogue here on our jobs discussion list, the >> > below job listing prompts me to comment: >> > >> > Why not just come out and say that you are looking for some 24 year > old >> > ("We are young, successful, and fun") who is willing to work 60 > hours a >> > week for what did you say, 45K?? ("Salary Range: 45-75 k > depending on >> > experience"). >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> > \ > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php From steger at flidigital.com Thu Aug 14 13:01:07 2008 From: steger at flidigital.com (Scott Teger) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:01:07 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Fli Digital - looking for full-time proficient developer (onsite/Hauppauge, NY) Message-ID: <9d865ff80808141001m602fc348qeb162fbb69d05155@mail.gmail.com> All - thanks for your consideration. Anyone looking on LI or commuting to NYC coming from Long Island looking to drop the commute, take a look. We are looking for a proficient PHP developer ideally with some framework experience (CodeIgniter/KohannaPHP). Considering the flak i've seen for people looking for full time developers, i'll keep this short - if you're interested, click the link. Thanks! http://www.freshplatform.com/employment/position/1 -- Scott Teger Managing Partner | Fli Digital, Inc. Office: 631-913-0200 x103 Fax: 631-961-5445 (private) Web: http://www.FliDigital.com Check out Fli Digital's Fresh Mobile Platform! http://www.FreshPlatform.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thank you, Jonathan Karlen CTO -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lists at zaunere.com Sun Aug 17 17:08:44 2008 From: lists at zaunere.com (Hans Zaunere) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:08:44 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Please remove me from you distribution list In-Reply-To: <48A3166F.1020205@cyberxdesigns.com> References: <20080812151209.fe8357a1bd7c26a8ea0a0bcbcdb71bc2.d32b8caa31.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <001301c8fd4c$379c9690$a6d5c3b0$@com> <48A3166F.1020205@cyberxdesigns.com> Message-ID: <03e201c900ad$6f2cf7d0$4d86e770$@com> Thanks Hans, and all, for the feedback. Judging from the recent comments, we will be leaving things as is. There is really nothing wrong with the way things are - people just need to be responsible mailing list members, and keep good netiquette. Just as with any active list, these are important things to remember. --- Hans Zaunere / Managing Member / New York PHP www.nyphp.org / www.nyphp.com > -----Original Message----- > From: jobs-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:jobs-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On > Behalf Of Hans Kaspersetz > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 1:14 PM > To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Please remove me from you distribution list > > > > That said, we are considering developing a moderated list with a web form, > time permitting, that will only allow open positions to be posted. Thoughts, > feedback? Help/moderators? > > > > > > > > Hans, > > I would be willing to moderate that list. Although, that solution seems > to already exist in the market place and I am not sure we really need it. > > I think there is something unique about how our job list works and it > feels like a real meritocracy and provides for a open two way channel. > If we cut off half that, then we become more like a media channel and > the conversation becomes one sided. I would like to imagine that our > complaints (suggestions) about the job listings have improved the > quality of them. > > Maybe I am alone, but I have found the recent discourse on this list to > be of more value then the talk list and would like to keep it lively. If > we give the recruiters a way out, a 'safe harbor' for posting, then we > opt to exclude ourselves from half the conversation. Your email the > other day really outlined why this list is important and worthwhile. > > Hans > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php From hans at cyberxdesigns.com Sun Aug 17 17:23:05 2008 From: hans at cyberxdesigns.com (hans at cyberxdesigns.com) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:23:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Please remove me from you distribution list In-Reply-To: <03e201c900ad$6f2cf7d0$4d86e770$@com> References: <20080812151209.fe8357a1bd7c26a8ea0a0bcbcdb71bc2.d32b8caa31.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <001301c8fd4c$379c9690$a6d5c3b0$@com> <48A3166F.1020205@cyberxdesigns.com> <03e201c900ad$6f2cf7d0$4d86e770$@com> Message-ID: <3671.75.181.137.56.1219008185.squirrel@host.cxdhosting.com> > Thanks Hans, and all, for the feedback. Judging from the recent comments, > we will be leaving things as is. There is really nothing wrong with the > way things are - people just need to be responsible mailing list members, > and keep good netiquette. > > Just as with any active list, these are important things to remember. > If you change your mind, keep me in mind. Hans From doug at giganticinc.com Mon Aug 18 21:56:43 2008 From: doug at giganticinc.com (Doug Gatanis) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:56:43 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] PHP Programmer Needed for Ongoing Projects Message-ID: Gigantic Inc., is a small multimedia design firm based in SoHo, that has an immediate need for a PHP/MySQL programmer to work various web projects. We currently have 4-5 projects on our plate that require a talented PHP programmer to build clean, user-friendly solutions that range e-commerce cart implementations to an online ordering system for a major reprographics company. Some of these projects will require building for scratch while others will be modifications of existing PHP programming. We are looking for a freelancer for the next 6 months with the possibility of a lifetime of projects! We are amenable to off-site work but would prefer that you have regular meetings with us in our office or at least be available via iChat video conferencing. No offense, but we also need a good command of the English language as we may need you to explain things to clients. Now here is the kicker - we got burned by a PHP programmer the last time we did this. His name was Tom Gillis and I am not afraid to let you know because if I ever see him again he will have a hard time looking me in the eye. But I can see from reading the threads on this list that there are honest and talented programmers out there that would like to work on projects with dedicated and knowledgeable people. So please, if you are a slacker and a thief, don't waste my time. But if you want to earn a decent wage for some mid-level to high- level programming needs let me know you are interested. Responsibilities Work with our designers and project manager to build back-end solutions to medium-sized database driven websites. In most cases, you will be working with sites that have already had the framework or templates built in HTML and CSS. We would like you to work with our design team to build out the back-end sections of the sites into finished products. These back-end solutions involve simple CMS functionality like creating dynamic pages and integrating FCKEditor or something similar. Also integrating phpBB Forum solutions or Blogging applications. Requirements - PHP, MySQL (AJAX would be nice, but not required) - Integration of off-the-shelf e-commerce software or custom built solutions - Clear understanding of HTML & XHTML and CSS - Knowledge of FCKEditor and phpBB integration very, very helpful - Flash, Actionscript and XML are a big plus but not necessary - Illustrator and Photoshop - Strong communication skills - Healthy desire to work with knowledgeable and really cool people Compensation (fee based or hourly) Depending on the complexity and scope of work, but fees usually range from $3,000 - $8,000 for website projects such as these: http://www.manhattansc.org or http://www.owlibrary.org - these have a simple CMS back-end with integration of FCKEditor. I know this is a big range, but each project has a budget that we have to work within. An hourly wage will be in the $40 - 60 range. Just work quickly ;-) We will always do the best we can to compensate you fairly for your work. Sorry no bennies. To apply, send an email and resume to doug at giganticinc.com. If you want to know more about Gigantic and our projects, send me an email. --------------------- Doug Gatanis Gigantic Inc. doug at giganticinc.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From newmediaconcept at gmail.com Tue Aug 19 21:24:31 2008 From: newmediaconcept at gmail.com (New Media Concept) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:24:31 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner to Make it Happen Message-ID: I've got a pretty good idea that's been brewing in my head for quite a while. It's ambitious, audacious, and certainly a challenge, but at the same time, it's so audacious that it deserves nothing less than a real try. I used to work in the media industry and came to the painful realization that it's probably the only industry that does an incredibly poor job of bringing in new people and new ideas. At the same time the media industry hasn't changed much even as technology has given it the potential to solve many of these issues. The end result is more misses than hits, and promising original talent being burned out as they tire out from trying to get their lucky break. I think it's time to change that. I've spoken to several tech and marketing execs who all agree that this is an idea that is entirely feasible and self sustainable, and therefore worth trying at the very least. I've spoken with others in the industry, including other artists and creatives, who all tell me that they and everyone they know would jump at the chance to partake in that concept because something like this has been sorely lacking in the industry for nearly it's entire history. So in the end, it could be at the very least a self sustainable and unique niche site, or be even more, and disrupt and shift the entire industry. It's not a concept that can be deployed overnight, but whose features can be logically implemented over time to create an ever more full featured product. The first iteration of the concept would be simple and could be up and running fairly fast(in fact a simple prototype using open source resources was built and successfully tested). However I need someone who will be able to take it beyond that, and keep it going as new pieces of the puzzle are being implemented and thought up. I'm going to need a good LAMP developer who knows how to work with UGC and a CMS, and wants to be part of building an idea that might carry them for the long haul. I'm really looking for my long term technical team/partner(s) to really make this idea and vision happen. So if you went through the trouble of reading all that and don't think I'm a nut for daring to think big, shoot me an email with your qualifications and I'll let you know more of the details. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From webmiester at gmail.com Tue Aug 19 21:42:12 2008 From: webmiester at gmail.com (RDP) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:42:12 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner toMake it Happen References: Message-ID: <14438B3E8BF24A3F8DF785AE1A61439C@RDP> Sounds great!! Show me the money! Have a nice day! ----- Original Message ----- From: New Media Concept To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:24 PM Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner toMake it Happen I've got a pretty good idea that's been brewing in my head for quite a while. It's ambitious, audacious, and certainly a challenge, but at the same time, it's so audacious that it deserves nothing less than a real try. I used to work in the media industry and came to the painful realization that it's probably the only industry that does an incredibly poor job of bringing in new people and new ideas. At the same time the media industry hasn't changed much even as technology has given it the potential to solve many of these issues. The end result is more misses than hits, and promising original talent being burned out as they tire out from trying to get their lucky break. I think it's time to change that. I've spoken to several tech and marketing execs who all agree that this is an idea that is entirely feasible and self sustainable, and therefore worth trying at the very least. I've spoken with others in the industry, including other artists and creatives, who all tell me that they and everyone they know would jump at the chance to partake in that concept because something like this has been sorely lacking in the industry for nearly it's entire history. So in the end, it could be at the very least a self sustainable and unique niche site, or be even more, and disrupt and shift the entire industry. It's not a concept that can be deployed overnight, but whose features can be logically implemented over time to create an ever more full featured product. The first iteration of the concept would be simple and could be up and running fairly fast(in fact a simple prototype using open source resources was built and successfully tested). However I need someone who will be able to take it beyond that, and keep it going as new pieces of the puzzle are being implemented and thought up. I'm going to need a good LAMP developer who knows how to work with UGC and a CMS, and wants to be part of building an idea that might carry them for the long haul. I'm really looking for my long term technical team/partner(s) to really make this idea and vision happen. So if you went through the trouble of reading all that and don't think I'm a nut for daring to think big, shoot me an email with your qualifications and I'll let you know more of the details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brian at realm3.com Tue Aug 19 22:37:09 2008 From: brian at realm3.com (Brian D.) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:37:09 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner toMake it Happen In-Reply-To: <14438B3E8BF24A3F8DF785AE1A61439C@RDP> References: <14438B3E8BF24A3F8DF785AE1A61439C@RDP> Message-ID: I recommend this article/post: http://codeclimber.blogspot.com/2008/04/all-i-need-is-programmer.html As a member of several NYC networking groups, I can promise you that ideas (both good and bad) are a dime a dozen, it's all on the execution. Maybe you're not looking for freebies, but if you are I recommend against it. You might have more luck finding a developer that will lower their wages in exchange for equity, or if you're absolutely desperate, outsource the work developing a prototype, sell your idea to investors, and then hire programmers to execute. Hope that helps, - Brian D. On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:42 PM, RDP wrote: > Sounds great!! > > Show me the money! > > Have a nice day! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: New Media Concept > To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:24 PM > Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner toMake > it Happen > I've got a pretty good idea that's been brewing in my head for quite a > while. It's ambitious, audacious, and certainly a challenge, but at the same > time, it's so audacious that it deserves nothing less than a real try. > > I used to work in the media industry and came to the painful realization > that it's probably the only industry that does an incredibly poor job of > bringing in new people and new ideas. At the same time the media industry > hasn't changed much even as technology has given it the potential to solve > many of these issues. The end result is more misses than hits, and promising > original talent being burned out as they tire out from trying to get their > lucky break. I think it's time to change that. > > I've spoken to several tech and marketing execs who all agree that this is > an idea that is entirely feasible and self sustainable, and therefore worth > trying at the very least. I've spoken with others in the industry, including > other artists and creatives, who all tell me that they and everyone they > know would jump at the chance to partake in that concept because something > like this has been sorely lacking in the industry for nearly it's entire > history. So in the end, it could be at the very least a self sustainable and > unique niche site, or be even more, and disrupt and shift the entire > industry. > > It's not a concept that can be deployed overnight, but whose features can be > logically implemented over time to create an ever more full featured > product. The first iteration of the concept would be simple and could be up > and running fairly fast(in fact a simple prototype using open source > resources was built and successfully tested). However I need someone who > will be able to take it beyond that, and keep it going as new pieces of the > puzzle are being implemented and thought up. > > I'm going to need a good LAMP developer who knows how to work with UGC and a > CMS, and wants to be part of building an idea that might carry them for the > long haul. I'm really looking for my long term technical team/partner(s) to > really make this idea and vision happen. > > So if you went through the trouble of reading all that and don't think I'm a > nut for daring to think big, shoot me an email with your qualifications and > I'll let you know more of the details. > > ________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -- realm3 web applications [realm3.com] Information architecture, application development. phone: (917) 512-3594 fax: (440) 744-3559 From ka at kacomputerconsulting.com Wed Aug 20 00:09:15 2008 From: ka at kacomputerconsulting.com (Kristina Anderson) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:09:15 -0700 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner toMake it Happen Message-ID: <1219205355.32147@coral.he.net> Great article. Thanks! As far as equity goes, I have "equity" in a project which I did last winter. Most of the time these people pay a few grand in cash, which for the hours worked ends up being like $10 an hour or less, and "equity", and then just expect the thing to sell itself after you build it. If they don't have the cash to pay you to build it, you KNOW they don't have the cash to market it and make it profitable. I think any competent engineer can calculate the value of 10% of ZERO... NEVER AGAIN. My landlord, and the grocery store, don't accept a promise of "equity" as payment. I learned the hard way not to go this route. Maybe 1 out of 1,000 projects might be worth doing on that basis....maybe. -- Kristina > I recommend this article/post: > > http://codeclimber.blogspot.com/2008/04/all-i-need-is-programmer.html > > As a member of several NYC networking groups, I can promise you that > ideas (both good and bad) are a dime a dozen, it's all on the > execution. > > Maybe you're not looking for freebies, but if you are I recommend > against it. You might have more luck finding a developer that will > lower their wages in exchange for equity, or if you're absolutely > desperate, outsource the work developing a prototype, sell your idea > to investors, and then hire programmers to execute. > > Hope that helps, > > - Brian D. > > On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:42 PM, RDP wrote: > > Sounds great!! > > > > Show me the money! > > > > Have a nice day! > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: New Media Concept > > To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:24 PM > > Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner toMake > > it Happen > > I've got a pretty good idea that's been brewing in my head for quite a > > while. It's ambitious, audacious, and certainly a challenge, but at the same > > time, it's so audacious that it deserves nothing less than a real try. > > > > I used to work in the media industry and came to the painful realization > > that it's probably the only industry that does an incredibly poor job of > > bringing in new people and new ideas. At the same time the media industry > > hasn't changed much even as technology has given it the potential to solve > > many of these issues. The end result is more misses than hits, and promising > > original talent being burned out as they tire out from trying to get their > > lucky break. I think it's time to change that. > > > > I've spoken to several tech and marketing execs who all agree that this is > > an idea that is entirely feasible and self sustainable, and therefore worth > > trying at the very least. I've spoken with others in the industry, including > > other artists and creatives, who all tell me that they and everyone they > > know would jump at the chance to partake in that concept because something > > like this has been sorely lacking in the industry for nearly it's entire > > history. So in the end, it could be at the very least a self sustainable and > > unique niche site, or be even more, and disrupt and shift the entire > > industry. > > > > It's not a concept that can be deployed overnight, but whose features can be > > logically implemented over time to create an ever more full featured > > product. The first iteration of the concept would be simple and could be up > > and running fairly fast(in fact a simple prototype using open source > > resources was built and successfully tested). However I need someone who > > will be able to take it beyond that, and keep it going as new pieces of the > > puzzle are being implemented and thought up. > > > > I'm going to need a good LAMP developer who knows how to work with UGC and a > > CMS, and wants to be part of building an idea that might carry them for the > > long haul. I'm really looking for my long term technical team/partner(s) to > > really make this idea and vision happen. > > > > So if you went through the trouble of reading all that and don't think I'm a > > nut for daring to think big, shoot me an email with your qualifications and > > I'll let you know more of the details. > > > > ________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > > > -- > realm3 web applications [realm3.com] > Information architecture, application development. > phone: (917) 512-3594 > fax: (440) 744-3559 > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > From ben at projectskyline.com Wed Aug 20 09:13:10 2008 From: ben at projectskyline.com (Ben Sgro) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:13:10 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner toMake it Happen In-Reply-To: <1219205355.32147@coral.he.net> References: <1219205355.32147@coral.he.net> Message-ID: <48AC1866.6040402@projectskyline.com> Well said, " any competent engineer can calculate the value of 10% of ZERO... Cash is king. - Ben Kristina Anderson wrote: > Great article. Thanks! > > As far as equity goes, I have "equity" in a project which I did last > winter. Most of the time these people pay a few grand in cash, which > for the hours worked ends up being like $10 an hour or less, > and "equity", and then just expect the thing to sell itself after you > build it. If they don't have the cash to pay you to build it, you KNOW > they don't have the cash to market it and make it profitable. I think > any competent engineer can calculate the value of 10% of ZERO... > > NEVER AGAIN. My landlord, and the grocery store, don't accept a > promise of "equity" as payment. I learned the hard way not to go this > route. Maybe 1 out of 1,000 projects might be worth doing on that > basis....maybe. > > -- Kristina > > > > >> I recommend this article/post: >> >> http://codeclimber.blogspot.com/2008/04/all-i-need-is-programmer.html >> >> As a member of several NYC networking groups, I can promise you that >> ideas (both good and bad) are a dime a dozen, it's all on the >> execution. >> >> Maybe you're not looking for freebies, but if you are I recommend >> against it. You might have more luck finding a developer that will >> lower their wages in exchange for equity, or if you're absolutely >> desperate, outsource the work developing a prototype, sell your idea >> to investors, and then hire programmers to execute. >> >> Hope that helps, >> >> - Brian D. >> >> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:42 PM, RDP wrote: >> >>> Sounds great!! >>> >>> Show me the money! >>> >>> Have a nice day! >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: New Media Concept >>> To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:24 PM >>> Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a >>> > Developer/Partner toMake > >>> it Happen >>> I've got a pretty good idea that's been brewing in my head for >>> > quite a > >>> while. It's ambitious, audacious, and certainly a challenge, but at >>> > the same > >>> time, it's so audacious that it deserves nothing less than a real >>> > try. > >>> I used to work in the media industry and came to the painful >>> > realization > >>> that it's probably the only industry that does an incredibly poor >>> > job of > >>> bringing in new people and new ideas. At the same time the media >>> > industry > >>> hasn't changed much even as technology has given it the potential >>> > to solve > >>> many of these issues. The end result is more misses than hits, and >>> > promising > >>> original talent being burned out as they tire out from trying to >>> > get their > >>> lucky break. I think it's time to change that. >>> >>> I've spoken to several tech and marketing execs who all agree that >>> > this is > >>> an idea that is entirely feasible and self sustainable, and >>> > therefore worth > >>> trying at the very least. I've spoken with others in the industry, >>> > including > >>> other artists and creatives, who all tell me that they and everyone >>> > they > >>> know would jump at the chance to partake in that concept because >>> > something > >>> like this has been sorely lacking in the industry for nearly it's >>> > entire > >>> history. So in the end, it could be at the very least a self >>> > sustainable and > >>> unique niche site, or be even more, and disrupt and shift the entire >>> industry. >>> >>> It's not a concept that can be deployed overnight, but whose >>> > features can be > >>> logically implemented over time to create an ever more full featured >>> product. The first iteration of the concept would be simple and >>> > could be up > >>> and running fairly fast(in fact a simple prototype using open source >>> resources was built and successfully tested). However I need >>> > someone who > >>> will be able to take it beyond that, and keep it going as new >>> > pieces of the > >>> puzzle are being implemented and thought up. >>> >>> I'm going to need a good LAMP developer who knows how to work with >>> > UGC and a > >>> CMS, and wants to be part of building an idea that might carry them >>> > for the > >>> long haul. I'm really looking for my long term technical >>> > team/partner(s) to > >>> really make this idea and vision happen. >>> >>> So if you went through the trouble of reading all that and don't >>> > think I'm a > >>> nut for daring to think big, shoot me an email with your >>> > qualifications and > >>> I'll let you know more of the details. >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>> >>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>> >>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>> >>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>> >>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>> >>> >> >> -- >> realm3 web applications [realm3.com] >> Information architecture, application development. >> phone: (917) 512-3594 >> fax: (440) 744-3559 >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com Wed Aug 20 09:23:35 2008 From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 06:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner toMake it Happen Message-ID: <868934.48722.qm@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Everybody has big ideas. But few have the tenacity to see it through to fruition. > > >> I recommend this article/post: >> >> http://codeclimber.blogspot.com/2008/04/all-i-need-is-programmer.html >> >> As a member of several NYC networking groups, I can promise you that >> ideas (both good and bad) are a dime a dozen, it's all on the >> execution. >> >> Maybe you're not looking for freebies, but if you are I recommend >> against it. You might have more luck finding a developer that will >> lower their wages in exchange for equity, or if you're absolutely >> desperate, outsource the work developing a prototype, sell your idea >> to investors, and then hire programmers to execute. >> >> Hope that helps, >> >> - Brian D. >> >> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:42 PM, RDP wrote: >> >>> Sounds great!! >>> >>> Show me the money! >>> >>> Have a nice day! >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: New Media Concept >>> To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:24 PM >>> Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a >>> > Developer/Partner toMake > >>> it Happen >>> I've got a pretty good idea that's been brewing in my head for >>> > quite a > >>> while. It's ambitious, audacious, and certainly a challenge, but at >>> > the same > >>> time, it's so audacious that it deserves nothing less than a real >>> > try. > >>> I used to work in the media industry and came to the painful >>> > realization > >>> that it's probably the only industry that does an incredibly poor >>> > job of > >>> bringing in new people and new ideas. At the same time the media >>> > industry > >>> hasn't changed much even as technology has given it the potential >>> > to solve > >>> many of these issues. The end result is more misses than hits, and >>> > promising > >>> original talent being burned out as they tire out from trying to >>> > get their > >>> lucky break. I think it's time to change that. >>> >>> I've spoken to several tech and marketing execs who all agree that >>> > this is > >>> an idea that is entirely feasible and self sustainable, and >>> > therefore worth > >>> trying at the very least. I've spoken with others in the industry, >>> > including > >>> other artists and creatives, who all tell me that they and everyone >>> > they > >>> know would jump at the chance to partake in that concept because >>> > something > >>> like this has been sorely lacking in the industry for nearly it's >>> > entire > >>> history. So in the end, it could be at the very least a self >>> > sustainable and > >>> unique niche site, or be even more, and disrupt and shift the entire >>> industry. >>> >>> It's not a concept that can be deployed overnight, but whose >>> > features can be > >>> logically implemented over time to create an ever more full featured >>> product. The first iteration of the concept would be simple and >>> > could be up > >>> and running fairly fast(in fact a simple prototype using open source >>> resources was built and successfully tested). However I need >>> > someone who > >>> will be able to take it beyond that, and keep it going as new >>> > pieces of the > >>> puzzle are being implemented and thought up. >>> >>> I'm going to need a good LAMP developer who knows how to work with >>> > UGC and a > >>> CMS, and wants to be part of building an idea that might carry them >>> > for the > >>> long haul. I'm really looking for my long term technical >>> > team/partner(s) to > >>> really make this idea and vision happen. >>> >>> So if you went through the trouble of reading all that and don't >>> > think I'm a > >>> nut for daring to think big, shoot me an email with your >>> > qualifications and > >>> I'll let you know more of the details. >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>> >>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>> >>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>> >>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>> >>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>> >>> >> >> -- >> realm3 web applications [realm3.com] >> Information architecture, application development. >> phone: (917) 512-3594 >> fax: (440) 744-3559 >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php From ka at kacomputerconsulting.com Wed Aug 20 09:35:13 2008 From: ka at kacomputerconsulting.com (Kristina Anderson) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 06:35:13 -0700 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner toMake it Happen Message-ID: <1219239313.25092@coral.he.net> Exactly. And what a lot of these supposed "business geniuses" don't realize is...there's a huge amount of noise out there in cyberspace, it takes a MASSIVE amount of time and capital to make people aware of your website/software/what have you...and then to get them to open their wallets. Bottom line, if these "idea people" don't have the money to pay someone to BUILD it, they won't have the money to pay someone to SELL it, which from what I've heard can be even more expensive. -- Kristina > > > Everybody has big ideas. But few have the tenacity to see it through to fruition. > > > > > > > > >> I recommend this article/post: > >> > >> http://codeclimber.blogspot.com/2008/04/all-i-need-is- programmer.html > >> > >> As a member of several NYC networking groups, I can promise you that > >> ideas (both good and bad) are a dime a dozen, it's all on the > >> execution. > >> > >> Maybe you're not looking for freebies, but if you are I recommend > >> against it. You might have more luck finding a developer that will > >> lower their wages in exchange for equity, or if you're absolutely > >> desperate, outsource the work developing a prototype, sell your idea > >> to investors, and then hire programmers to execute. > >> > >> Hope that helps, > >> > >> - Brian D. > >> > >> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:42 PM, RDP wrote: > >> > >>> Sounds great!! > >>> > >>> Show me the money! > >>> > >>> Have a nice day! > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: New Media Concept > >>> To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:24 PM > >>> Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a > >>> > > Developer/Partner toMake > > > >>> it Happen > >>> I've got a pretty good idea that's been brewing in my head for > >>> > > quite a > > > >>> while. It's ambitious, audacious, and certainly a challenge, but at > >>> > > the same > > > >>> time, it's so audacious that it deserves nothing less than a real > >>> > > try. > > > >>> I used to work in the media industry and came to the painful > >>> > > realization > > > >>> that it's probably the only industry that does an incredibly poor > >>> > > job of > > > >>> bringing in new people and new ideas. At the same time the media > >>> > > industry > > > >>> hasn't changed much even as technology has given it the potential > >>> > > to solve > > > >>> many of these issues. The end result is more misses than hits, and > >>> > > promising > > > >>> original talent being burned out as they tire out from trying to > >>> > > get their > > > >>> lucky break. I think it's time to change that. > >>> > >>> I've spoken to several tech and marketing execs who all agree that > >>> > > this is > > > >>> an idea that is entirely feasible and self sustainable, and > >>> > > therefore worth > > > >>> trying at the very least. I've spoken with others in the industry, > >>> > > including > > > >>> other artists and creatives, who all tell me that they and everyone > >>> > > they > > > >>> know would jump at the chance to partake in that concept because > >>> > > something > > > >>> like this has been sorely lacking in the industry for nearly it's > >>> > > entire > > > >>> history. So in the end, it could be at the very least a self > >>> > > sustainable and > > > >>> unique niche site, or be even more, and disrupt and shift the entire > >>> industry. > >>> > >>> It's not a concept that can be deployed overnight, but whose > >>> > > features can be > > > >>> logically implemented over time to create an ever more full featured > >>> product. The first iteration of the concept would be simple and > >>> > > could be up > > > >>> and running fairly fast(in fact a simple prototype using open source > >>> resources was built and successfully tested). However I need > >>> > > someone who > > > >>> will be able to take it beyond that, and keep it going as new > >>> > > pieces of the > > > >>> puzzle are being implemented and thought up. > >>> > >>> I'm going to need a good LAMP developer who knows how to work with > >>> > > UGC and a > > > >>> CMS, and wants to be part of building an idea that might carry them > >>> > > for the > > > >>> long haul. I'm really looking for my long term technical > >>> > > team/partner(s) to > > > >>> really make this idea and vision happen. > >>> > >>> So if you went through the trouble of reading all that and don't > >>> > > think I'm a > > > >>> nut for daring to think big, shoot me an email with your > >>> > > qualifications and > > > >>> I'll let you know more of the details. > >>> > >>> ________________________________ > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > >>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > >>> > >>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > >>> http://www.nyphpcon.com > >>> > >>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP > >>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > >>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > >>> > >>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > >>> http://www.nyphpcon.com > >>> > >>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP > >>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> realm3 web applications [realm3.com] > >> Information architecture, application development. > >> phone: (917) 512-3594 > >> fax: (440) 744-3559 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > >> > >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > >> http://www.nyphpcon.com > >> > >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP > >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > >> > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com Wed Aug 20 09:42:31 2008 From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 06:42:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner toMake it Happen Message-ID: <417035.83068.qm@web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> They'll get someone to sell it the same way they are trying to get someone to develop it -- offer them a piece of the pie. Then you end up in a TV documentary about how someone promised 50% of his business to 5 different people. ----- Original Message ---- From: Kristina Anderson To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:35:13 AM Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner toMake it Happen Exactly. And what a lot of these supposed "business geniuses" don't realize is...there's a huge amount of noise out there in cyberspace, it takes a MASSIVE amount of time and capital to make people aware of your website/software/what have you...and then to get them to open their wallets. Bottom line, if these "idea people" don't have the money to pay someone to BUILD it, they won't have the money to pay someone to SELL it, which from what I've heard can be even more expensive. -- Kristina > > > Everybody has big ideas. But few have the tenacity to see it through to fruition. > > > > > > > > >> I recommend this article/post: > >> > >> http://codeclimber.blogspot.com/2008/04/all-i-need-is- programmer.html > >> > >> As a member of several NYC networking groups, I can promise you that > >> ideas (both good and bad) are a dime a dozen, it's all on the > >> execution. > >> > >> Maybe you're not looking for freebies, but if you are I recommend > >> against it. You might have more luck finding a developer that will > >> lower their wages in exchange for equity, or if you're absolutely > >> desperate, outsource the work developing a prototype, sell your idea > >> to investors, and then hire programmers to execute. > >> > >> Hope that helps, > >> > >> - Brian D. > >> > >> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:42 PM, RDP wrote: > >> > >>> Sounds great!! > >>> > >>> Show me the money! > >>> > >>> Have a nice day! > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: New Media Concept > >>> To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:24 PM > >>> Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a > >>> > > Developer/Partner toMake > > > >>> it Happen > >>> I've got a pretty good idea that's been brewing in my head for > >>> > > quite a > > > >>> while. It's ambitious, audacious, and certainly a challenge, but at > >>> > > the same > > > >>> time, it's so audacious that it deserves nothing less than a real > >>> > > try. > > > >>> I used to work in the media industry and came to the painful > >>> > > realization > > > >>> that it's probably the only industry that does an incredibly poor > >>> > > job of > > > >>> bringing in new people and new ideas. At the same time the media > >>> > > industry > > > >>> hasn't changed much even as technology has given it the potential > >>> > > to solve > > > >>> many of these issues. The end result is more misses than hits, and > >>> > > promising > > > >>> original talent being burned out as they tire out from trying to > >>> > > get their > > > >>> lucky break. I think it's time to change that. > >>> > >>> I've spoken to several tech and marketing execs who all agree that > >>> > > this is > > > >>> an idea that is entirely feasible and self sustainable, and > >>> > > therefore worth > > > >>> trying at the very least. I've spoken with others in the industry, > >>> > > including > > > >>> other artists and creatives, who all tell me that they and everyone > >>> > > they > > > >>> know would jump at the chance to partake in that concept because > >>> > > something > > > >>> like this has been sorely lacking in the industry for nearly it's > >>> > > entire > > > >>> history. So in the end, it could be at the very least a self > >>> > > sustainable and > > > >>> unique niche site, or be even more, and disrupt and shift the entire > >>> industry. > >>> > >>> It's not a concept that can be deployed overnight, but whose > >>> > > features can be > > > >>> logically implemented over time to create an ever more full featured > >>> product. The first iteration of the concept would be simple and > >>> > > could be up > > > >>> and running fairly fast(in fact a simple prototype using open source > >>> resources was built and successfully tested). However I need > >>> > > someone who > > > >>> will be able to take it beyond that, and keep it going as new > >>> > > pieces of the > > > >>> puzzle are being implemented and thought up. > >>> > >>> I'm going to need a good LAMP developer who knows how to work with > >>> > > UGC and a > > > >>> CMS, and wants to be part of building an idea that might carry them > >>> > > for the > > > >>> long haul. I'm really looking for my long term technical > >>> > > team/partner(s) to > > > >>> really make this idea and vision happen. > >>> > >>> So if you went through the trouble of reading all that and don't > >>> > > think I'm a > > > >>> nut for daring to think big, shoot me an email with your > >>> > > qualifications and > > > >>> I'll let you know more of the details. > >>> > >>> ________________________________ > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > >>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > >>> > >>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > >>> http://www.nyphpcon.com > >>> > >>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP > >>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > >>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > >>> > >>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > >>> http://www.nyphpcon.com > >>> > >>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP > >>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> realm3 web applications [realm3.com] > >> Information architecture, application development. > >> phone: (917) 512-3594 > >> fax: (440) 744-3559 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > >> > >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > >> http://www.nyphpcon.com > >> > >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP > >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > >> > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php From codebowl at gmail.com Wed Aug 20 10:07:31 2008 From: codebowl at gmail.com (Joseph Crawford) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:07:31 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner to Make it Happen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1D8E0B3F-827C-416C-9358-C9A6757C3F0F@gmail.com> I have a great big idea too, there are only 2 main competitors.. downfall is i do not have the ability to fund the project even though i would do all the programming myself there is server admin, front end designer / js guys etc. The only way I could get this off the ground would be to use a template (i refuse to) or get friends to join in the deal. Trying to sell something to someone for 10% of ZERO is not going to work. On Aug 19, 2008, at 9:24 PM, New Media Concept wrote: > I've got a pretty good idea that's been brewing in my head for quite > a while. It's ambitious, audacious, and certainly a challenge, but > at the same time, it's so audacious that it deserves nothing less > than a real try. > > I used to work in the media industry and came to the painful > realization that it's probably the only industry that does an > incredibly poor job of bringing in new people and new ideas. At the > same time the media industry hasn't changed much even as technology > has given it the potential to solve many of these issues. The end > result is more misses than hits, and promising original talent being > burned out as they tire out from trying to get their lucky break. I > think it's time to change that. > > I've spoken to several tech and marketing execs who all agree that > this is an idea that is entirely feasible and self sustainable, and > therefore worth trying at the very least. I've spoken with others in > the industry, including other artists and creatives, who all tell me > that they and everyone they know would jump at the chance to partake > in that concept because something like this has been sorely lacking > in the industry for nearly it's entire history. So in the end, it > could be at the very least a self sustainable and unique niche site, > or be even more, and disrupt and shift the entire industry. > > It's not a concept that can be deployed overnight, but whose > features can be logically implemented over time to create an ever > more full featured product. The first iteration of the concept would > be simple and could be up and running fairly fast(in fact a simple > prototype using open source resources was built and successfully > tested). However I need someone who will be able to take it beyond > that, and keep it going as new pieces of the puzzle are being > implemented and thought up. > > I'm going to need a good LAMP developer who knows how to work with > UGC and a CMS, and wants to be part of building an idea that might > carry them for the long haul. I'm really looking for my long term > technical team/partner(s) to really make this idea and vision happen. > > So if you went through the trouble of reading all that and don't > think I'm a nut for daring to think big, shoot me an email with your > qualifications and I'll let you know more of the details. > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com Wed Aug 20 10:23:03 2008 From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:23:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner to Make it Happen Message-ID: <775376.7852.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> If this is truly "entirely feasible and self sustainable" then why isn't it being presented to a venture capitalist who will put up CASH MONEY to pay for development? ----- Original Message ---- From: Joseph Crawford To: New Media Concept Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:07:31 AM Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner to Make it Happen I have a great big idea too, there are only 2 main competitors.. downfall is i do not have the ability to fund the project even though i would do all the programming myself there is server admin, front end designer / js guys etc. The only way I could get this off the ground would be to use a template (i refuse to) or get friends to join in the deal. Trying to sell something to someone for 10% of ZERO is not going to work. On Aug 19, 2008, at 9:24 PM, New Media Concept wrote: I've got a pretty good idea that's been brewing in my head for quite a while. It's ambitious, audacious, and certainly a challenge, but at the same time, it's so audacious that it deserves nothing less than a real try. I used to work in the media industry and came to the painful realization that it's probably the only industry that does an incredibly poor job of bringing in new people and new ideas. At the same time the media industry hasn't changed much even as technology has given it the potential to solve many of these issues. The end result is more misses than hits, and promising original talent being burned out as they tire out from trying to get their lucky break. I think it's time to change that. I've spoken to several tech and marketing execs who all agree that this is an idea that is entirely feasible and self sustainable, and therefore worth trying at the very least. I've spoken with others in the industry, including other artists and creatives, who all tell me that they and everyone they know would jump at the chance to partake in that concept because something like this has been sorely lacking in the industry for nearly it's entire history. So in the end, it could be at the very least a self sustainable and unique niche site, or be even more, and disrupt and shift the entire industry. It's not a concept that can be deployed overnight, but whose features can be logically implemented over time to create an ever more full featured product. The first iteration of the concept would be simple and could be up and running fairly fast(in fact a simple prototype using open source resources was built and successfully tested). However I need someone who will be able to take it beyond that, and keep it going as new pieces of the puzzle are being implemented and thought up. I'm going to need a good LAMP developer who knows how to work with UGC and a CMS, and wants to be part of building an idea that might carry them for the long haul. I'm really looking for my long term technical team/partner(s) to really make this idea and vision happen. So if you went through the trouble of reading all that and don't think I'm a nut for daring to think big, shoot me an email with your qualifications and I'll let you know more of the details. _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php From dan at reea.net Wed Aug 20 10:28:23 2008 From: dan at reea.net (Dan Masca) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:28:23 +0300 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner to Make it Happen In-Reply-To: <1D8E0B3F-827C-416C-9358-C9A6757C3F0F@gmail.com> References: <1D8E0B3F-827C-416C-9358-C9A6757C3F0F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48AC2A07.8010000@reea.net> Hello, we work with start-ups from different States from some years ago. We invest our work for equity and small amount of money in 5 start-ups. One of the best experience we had with Toby Murdock and Mike Lewis. They are co-founders of www.qloud.com ( search for "MyMUSIC" plug-ins on different social networking sites) was done by us ( they and REEA.net team)for shares and small amount of money at the beginning. They respect our low rate and they respect the equity that my new media shop had. They were good and find angel investors and VC's after a lot of work . Not easy, but we fight together for this ideas even that we work at thousands miles distance. From some months ago www.qloud.com is part of www.buzznet.com We work for other start-up : www.cellit.com and related media services in special for radio station. We work right now in other two. One of them found the big investor and after almost 10months of work and some equity we have the chance to develop it the business for next 2-3 years. We believe in the dreams of our business partners and we try to share with them our experience and in almost all the situations we understood what we must do and how we can recover the investment. From my point of view is more important to be pro-active and to try to help the other and to learn how we can do good businesses . Of course that we don't invest money in something that don't have a business plan and a minimum market research, but all the time I will say : "I am interested and let's see if we can make profit and if is possible a big ones." :) I think that big ideas, need big dreamers too . Good luck to every entrepreneurs ! Dan MASCA www.reea.net Joseph Crawford wrote: > I have a great big idea too, there are only 2 main competitors.. > downfall is i do not have the ability to fund the project even though > i would do all the programming myself there is server admin, front end > designer / js guys etc. > > The only way I could get this off the ground would be to use a > template (i refuse to) or get friends to join in the deal. > > Trying to sell something to someone for 10% of ZERO is not going to work. > > > On Aug 19, 2008, at 9:24 PM, New Media Concept wrote: > >> I've got a pretty good idea that's been brewing in my head for quite >> a while. It's ambitious, audacious, and certainly a challenge, but at >> the same time, it's so audacious that it deserves nothing less than a >> real try. >> >> I used to work in the media industry and came to the painful >> realization that it's probably the only industry that does an >> incredibly poor job of bringing in new people and new ideas. At the >> same time the media industry hasn't changed much even as technology >> has given it the potential to solve many of these issues. The end >> result is more misses than hits, and promising original talent being >> burned out as they tire out from trying to get their lucky break. I >> think it's time to change that. >> >> I've spoken to several tech and marketing execs who all agree that >> this is an idea that is entirely feasible and self sustainable, and >> therefore worth trying at the very least. I've spoken with others in >> the industry, including other artists and creatives, who all tell me >> that they and everyone they know would jump at the chance to partake >> in that concept because something like this has been sorely lacking >> in the industry for nearly it's entire history. So in the end, it >> could be at the very least a self sustainable and unique niche site, >> or be even more, and disrupt and shift the entire industry. >> >> It's not a concept that can be deployed overnight, but whose features >> can be logically implemented over time to create an ever more full >> featured product. The first iteration of the concept would be simple >> and could be up and running fairly fast(in fact a simple prototype >> using open source resources was built and successfully tested). >> However I need someone who will be able to take it beyond that, and >> keep it going as new pieces of the puzzle are being implemented and >> thought up. >> >> I'm going to need a good LAMP developer who knows how to work with >> UGC and a CMS, and wants to be part of building an idea that might >> carry them for the long haul. I'm really looking for my long term >> technical team/partner(s) to really make this idea and vision happen. >> >> So if you went through the trouble of reading all that and don't >> think I'm a nut for daring to think big, shoot me an email with your >> qualifications and I'll let you know more of the details. >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From guilhermeblanco at gmail.com Wed Aug 20 10:31:31 2008 From: guilhermeblanco at gmail.com (Guilherme Blanco) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:31:31 -0300 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner to Make it Happen In-Reply-To: <48AC2A07.8010000@reea.net> References: <1D8E0B3F-827C-416C-9358-C9A6757C3F0F@gmail.com> <48AC2A07.8010000@reea.net> Message-ID: I have 2 great ideas too, one of them there's no competitor and the other there are only one competitor, but it's years behind the new web tendencies. I have all expertise to build each project, BUT my main issue is time. Currently I work 10h/day in my own company and the rest of my available time I help in open source projects (read as Doctrine and Symfony). My company job is a fulltime work on a "brilliant idea" of someone else, that has enough money to build it. So, we all have our "brilliant ideas", but most of us never can make it happen. If you have budget to hire someone to build it for you, great.... otherwise... define new metas and "create" time to build by yourself... Cheers, On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Dan Masca wrote: > > Hello, > we work with start-ups from different States from some years ago. > We invest our work for equity and small amount of money in 5 start-ups. > One of the best experience we had with Toby Murdock and Mike Lewis. They > are co-founders of www.qloud.com ( search for "MyMUSIC" plug-ins on > different social networking sites) was done by us ( they and REEA.net > team)for shares and small amount of money at the beginning. > They respect our low rate and they respect the equity that my new media > shop had. They were good and find angel investors and VC's after a lot of > work . Not easy, but we fight together for this ideas even that we work at > thousands miles distance. > >From some months ago www.qloud.com is part of www.buzznet.com > > We work for other start-up : www.cellit.com and related media services in > special for radio station. > We work right now in other two. One of them found the big investor and after > almost 10months of work and some equity we have the chance to develop it the > business for next 2-3 years. > > We believe in the dreams of our business partners and we try to share with > them our experience and in almost all the situations we understood what we > must do and how we can recover the investment. > >From my point of view is more important to be pro-active and to try to help > the other and to learn how we can do good businesses . > Of course that we don't invest money in something that don't have a business > plan and a minimum market research, but all the time I will say : "I am > interested and let's see if we can make profit and if is possible a big > ones." :) > I think that big ideas, need big dreamers too . > > Good luck to every entrepreneurs ! > > Dan MASCA > www.reea.net > > > Joseph Crawford wrote: > > I have a great big idea too, there are only 2 main competitors.. downfall is > i do not have the ability to fund the project even though i would do all the > programming myself there is server admin, front end designer / js guys etc. > The only way I could get this off the ground would be to use a template (i > refuse to) or get friends to join in the deal. > Trying to sell something to someone for 10% of ZERO is not going to work. > > On Aug 19, 2008, at 9:24 PM, New Media Concept wrote: > > I've got a pretty good idea that's been brewing in my head for quite a > while. It's ambitious, audacious, and certainly a challenge, but at the same > time, it's so audacious that it deserves nothing less than a real try. > > I used to work in the media industry and came to the painful realization > that it's probably the only industry that does an incredibly poor job of > bringing in new people and new ideas. At the same time the media industry > hasn't changed much even as technology has given it the potential to solve > many of these issues. The end result is more misses than hits, and promising > original talent being burned out as they tire out from trying to get their > lucky break. I think it's time to change that. > > I've spoken to several tech and marketing execs who all agree that this is > an idea that is entirely feasible and self sustainable, and therefore worth > trying at the very least. I've spoken with others in the industry, including > other artists and creatives, who all tell me that they and everyone they > know would jump at the chance to partake in that concept because something > like this has been sorely lacking in the industry for nearly it's entire > history. So in the end, it could be at the very least a self sustainable and > unique niche site, or be even more, and disrupt and shift the entire > industry. > > It's not a concept that can be deployed overnight, but whose features can be > logically implemented over time to create an ever more full featured > product. The first iteration of the concept would be simple and could be up > and running fairly fast(in fact a simple prototype using open source > resources was built and successfully tested). However I need someone who > will be able to take it beyond that, and keep it going as new pieces of the > puzzle are being implemented and thought up. > > I'm going to need a good LAMP developer who knows how to work with UGC and a > CMS, and wants to be part of building an idea that might carry them for the > long haul. I'm really looking for my long term technical team/partner(s) to > really make this idea and vision happen. > > So if you went through the trouble of reading all that and don't think I'm a > nut for daring to think big, shoot me an email with your qualifications and > I'll let you know more of the details. > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > ________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -- Guilherme Blanco - Web Developer CBC - Certified Bindows Consultant Cell Phone: +55 (16) 9166-6902 MSN: guilhermeblanco at hotmail.com URL: http://blog.bisna.com Rio de Janeiro - RJ/Brazil From ka at kacomputerconsulting.com Wed Aug 20 10:37:12 2008 From: ka at kacomputerconsulting.com (Kristina Anderson) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:37:12 -0700 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner to Make it Happen Message-ID: <1219243032.11198@coral.he.net> Hope to heck they're using your Euros to pay engineers and not just offering them BS "equity shares" which don't pay the bills!!!!!!! Ooops let's see they're using the "reea.net team" who undoubtedly are Indians working for $7 an hour...right? NEXT!! > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > Hello, > we work with start-ups from different States from some years ago. > We invest our work for equity and small amount of money in 5 start- ups. > One of the best experience we had with Toby Murdock and Mike Lewis. They > are co-founders of www.qloud.com ( search for "MyMUSIC" plug-ins on > different social networking sites) was done by us ( they and REEA.net > team)for shares and small amount of money at the beginning. > They respect our low rate and they respect the equity that my new media > shop had. They were good and find angel investors and VC's after a lot > of work . Not easy, but we fight together for this ideas even that we > work at thousands miles distance. > From some months ago www.qloud.com is part of www.buzznet.com > > We work for other start-up : www.cellit.com and related media services > in special for radio station. > We work right now in other two. One of them found the big investor and > after almost 10months of work and some equity we have the chance to > develop it the business for next 2-3 years. > > We believe in the dreams of our business partners and we try to share > with them our experience and in almost all the situations we understood > what we must do and how we can recover the investment. > From my point of view is more important to be pro-active and to try to > help the other and to learn how we can do good businesses . > Of course that we don't invest money in something that don't have a > business plan and a minimum market research, but all the time I will > say : "I am interested and let's see if we can make profit and if is > possible a big ones." :) > I think that big ideas, need big dreamers too . > > Good luck to every entrepreneurs ! > > Dan MASCA > www.reea.net > > > Joseph Crawford wrote: > > I have a great big idea too, there are only 2 main competitors.. > > downfall is i do not have the ability to fund the project even though > > i would do all the programming myself there is server admin, front end > > designer / js guys etc. > > > > The only way I could get this off the ground would be to use a > > template (i refuse to) or get friends to join in the deal. > > > > Trying to sell something to someone for 10% of ZERO is not going to work. > > > > > > On Aug 19, 2008, at 9:24 PM, New Media Concept wrote: > > > >> I've got a pretty good idea that's been brewing in my head for quite > >> a while. It's ambitious, audacious, and certainly a challenge, but at > >> the same time, it's so audacious that it deserves nothing less than a > >> real try. > >> > >> I used to work in the media industry and came to the painful > >> realization that it's probably the only industry that does an > >> incredibly poor job of bringing in new people and new ideas. At the > >> same time the media industry hasn't changed much even as technology > >> has given it the potential to solve many of these issues. The end > >> result is more misses than hits, and promising original talent being > >> burned out as they tire out from trying to get their lucky break. I > >> think it's time to change that. > >> > >> I've spoken to several tech and marketing execs who all agree that > >> this is an idea that is entirely feasible and self sustainable, and > >> therefore worth trying at the very least. I've spoken with others in > >> the industry, including other artists and creatives, who all tell me > >> that they and everyone they know would jump at the chance to partake > >> in that concept because something like this has been sorely lacking > >> in the industry for nearly it's entire history. So in the end, it > >> could be at the very least a self sustainable and unique niche site, > >> or be even more, and disrupt and shift the entire industry. > >> > >> It's not a concept that can be deployed overnight, but whose features > >> can be logically implemented over time to create an ever more full > >> featured product. The first iteration of the concept would be simple > >> and could be up and running fairly fast(in fact a simple prototype > >> using open source resources was built and successfully tested). > >> However I need someone who will be able to take it beyond that, and > >> keep it going as new pieces of the puzzle are being implemented and > >> thought up. > >> > >> I'm going to need a good LAMP developer who knows how to work with > >> UGC and a CMS, and wants to be part of building an idea that might > >> carry them for the long haul. I'm really looking for my long term > >> technical team/partner(s) to really make this idea and vision happen. > >> > >> So if you went through the trouble of reading all that and don't > >> think I'm a nut for daring to think big, shoot me an email with your > >> qualifications and I'll let you know more of the details. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > >> > >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > >> http://www.nyphpcon.com > >> > >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP > >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > From dan at reea.net Wed Aug 20 10:40:44 2008 From: dan at reea.net (Dan Masca) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:40:44 +0300 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner to Make it Happen In-Reply-To: <775376.7852.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <775376.7852.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48AC2CEC.4070200@reea.net> Donna Marie Vincent wrote: > If this is truly "entirely feasible and self sustainable" then why isn't it being presented to a venture capitalist who will put up CASH MONEY to pay for development? > > > Hello Donna, from my experience the VC's don't put money right now in businesses which don't have a prototype which work and can show them that ideas that you present in power point or in a doc file can be implemented . If you don't have an history and is your first start-up than VC's don't put money easy. From my experience the money you can obtain from angel investors easier, from private person, friends which know the entrepreneurs and which want to put some cash for equity. Because of my agreement i can not give you an example of other start-up where we have some equity and which near my team, are another 20 friends of the cofounders which put some cash on it. Right now we work with an entrepreneur which move from Washington DC to NYC from personal and business reason. He is low on money and we analyze right now how we can eliminate the risk of "10% from nothing" . The most important thing is that peoples have ideas, they know there job very well and work hard to make the ideas a succesful business. Sorry for my english and I hope that you understood what I want to say ! Dan MASCA www.reea.net From david at davidmintz.org Wed Aug 20 10:42:17 2008 From: david at davidmintz.org (David Mintz) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:42:17 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner toMake it Happen In-Reply-To: <868934.48722.qm@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <868934.48722.qm@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <721f1cc50808200742g7883082fna7c8363042c6b14c@mail.gmail.com> To me it smells reminiscient of those emails I get from the widow of the former Nigerian oil minister. -- David Mintz http://davidmintz.org/ The subtle source is clear and bright The tributary streams flow through the darkness -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ka at kacomputerconsulting.com Wed Aug 20 10:45:57 2008 From: ka at kacomputerconsulting.com (Kristina Anderson) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:45:57 -0700 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner to Make it Happen Message-ID: <1219243557.13346@coral.he.net> I had a brilliant idea also and that was, as a self employed programmer, to build stuff for people with these "great ideas". Now, thanks to all these people and their "great ideas" and "low budgets", I have some new great ideas. Such as being able to go to the dentist when I need to go, being able to afford decent food, and being able to pay rent on time. Full Time Job....here I come!! Cash is king -- it's so true. I'm done posting on this...but it sure did hit a nerve. > I have 2 great ideas too, one of them there's no competitor and the > other there are only one competitor, but it's years behind the new web > tendencies. > > I have all expertise to build each project, BUT my main issue is time. > Currently I work 10h/day in my own company and the rest of my > available time I help in open source projects (read as Doctrine and > Symfony). My company job is a fulltime work on a "brilliant idea" of > someone else, that has enough money to build it. > So, we all have our "brilliant ideas", but most of us never can make > it happen. If you have budget to hire someone to build it for you, > great.... otherwise... define new metas and "create" time to build by > yourself... > > > Cheers, > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Dan Masca wrote: > > > > Hello, > > we work with start-ups from different States from some years ago. > > We invest our work for equity and small amount of money in 5 start- ups. > > One of the best experience we had with Toby Murdock and Mike Lewis. They > > are co-founders of www.qloud.com ( search for "MyMUSIC" plug-ins on > > different social networking sites) was done by us ( they and REEA.net > > team)for shares and small amount of money at the beginning. > > They respect our low rate and they respect the equity that my new media > > shop had. They were good and find angel investors and VC's after a lot of > > work . Not easy, but we fight together for this ideas even that we work at > > thousands miles distance. > > >From some months ago www.qloud.com is part of www.buzznet.com > > > > We work for other start-up : www.cellit.com and related media services in > > special for radio station. > > We work right now in other two. One of them found the big investor and after > > almost 10months of work and some equity we have the chance to develop it the > > business for next 2-3 years. > > > > We believe in the dreams of our business partners and we try to share with > > them our experience and in almost all the situations we understood what we > > must do and how we can recover the investment. > > >From my point of view is more important to be pro-active and to try to help > > the other and to learn how we can do good businesses . > > Of course that we don't invest money in something that don't have a business > > plan and a minimum market research, but all the time I will say : "I am > > interested and let's see if we can make profit and if is possible a big > > ones." :) > > I think that big ideas, need big dreamers too . > > > > Good luck to every entrepreneurs ! > > > > Dan MASCA > > www.reea.net > > > > > > Joseph Crawford wrote: > > > > I have a great big idea too, there are only 2 main competitors.. downfall is > > i do not have the ability to fund the project even though i would do all the > > programming myself there is server admin, front end designer / js guys etc. > > The only way I could get this off the ground would be to use a template (i > > refuse to) or get friends to join in the deal. > > Trying to sell something to someone for 10% of ZERO is not going to work. > > > > On Aug 19, 2008, at 9:24 PM, New Media Concept wrote: > > > > I've got a pretty good idea that's been brewing in my head for quite a > > while. It's ambitious, audacious, and certainly a challenge, but at the same > > time, it's so audacious that it deserves nothing less than a real try. > > > > I used to work in the media industry and came to the painful realization > > that it's probably the only industry that does an incredibly poor job of > > bringing in new people and new ideas. At the same time the media industry > > hasn't changed much even as technology has given it the potential to solve > > many of these issues. The end result is more misses than hits, and promising > > original talent being burned out as they tire out from trying to get their > > lucky break. I think it's time to change that. > > > > I've spoken to several tech and marketing execs who all agree that this is > > an idea that is entirely feasible and self sustainable, and therefore worth > > trying at the very least. I've spoken with others in the industry, including > > other artists and creatives, who all tell me that they and everyone they > > know would jump at the chance to partake in that concept because something > > like this has been sorely lacking in the industry for nearly it's entire > > history. So in the end, it could be at the very least a self sustainable and > > unique niche site, or be even more, and disrupt and shift the entire > > industry. > > > > It's not a concept that can be deployed overnight, but whose features can be > > logically implemented over time to create an ever more full featured > > product. The first iteration of the concept would be simple and could be up > > and running fairly fast(in fact a simple prototype using open source > > resources was built and successfully tested). However I need someone who > > will be able to take it beyond that, and keep it going as new pieces of the > > puzzle are being implemented and thought up. > > > > I'm going to need a good LAMP developer who knows how to work with UGC and a > > CMS, and wants to be part of building an idea that might carry them for the > > long haul. I'm really looking for my long term technical team/partner(s) to > > really make this idea and vision happen. > > > > So if you went through the trouble of reading all that and don't think I'm a > > nut for daring to think big, shoot me an email with your qualifications and > > I'll let you know more of the details. > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > ________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > > > -- > Guilherme Blanco - Web Developer > CBC - Certified Bindows Consultant > Cell Phone: +55 (16) 9166-6902 > MSN: guilhermeblanco at hotmail.com > URL: http://blog.bisna.com > Rio de Janeiro - RJ/Brazil > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > From johnqwilson at gmail.com Wed Aug 20 10:47:06 2008 From: johnqwilson at gmail.com (John Wilson) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:47:06 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner to Make it Happen In-Reply-To: <775376.7852.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <775376.7852.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <731f5c2f0808200747i4e923966x4c2c2be96d5901f7@mail.gmail.com> Wow you guys are tough. MY dislike with VC's isn't even the VC's, but rather the chase to find a VC - why? A successful business is one that makes a profit. Not one that makes a lot of noise. Profitability and giving ownership to a VC seem to have little if anything in common. The biggest upside to a VC partnership is gaining advice and a strong network - but even that can turn a "venture capital" relationship into "vulture capital" if you are not careful. On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Donna Marie Vincent < donnamarievincent at yahoo.com> wrote: > If this is truly "entirely feasible and self sustainable" then why isn't it > being presented to a venture capitalist who will put up CASH MONEY to pay > for development? > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Joseph Crawford > To: New Media Concept > Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:07:31 AM > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner > to Make it Happen > > I have a great big idea too, there are only 2 main competitors.. downfall > is i do not have the ability to fund the project even though i would do all > the programming myself there is server admin, front end designer / js guys > etc. > > The only way I could get this off the ground would be to use a template (i > refuse to) or get friends to join in the deal. > > Trying to sell something to someone for 10% of ZERO is not going to work. > > > > On Aug 19, 2008, at 9:24 PM, New Media Concept wrote: > > I've got a pretty good idea that's been brewing in my head for quite a > while. It's ambitious, audacious, and certainly a challenge, but at the same > time, it's so audacious that it deserves nothing less than a real try. > > I used to work in the media industry and came to the painful realization > that it's probably the only industry that does an incredibly poor job of > bringing in new people and new ideas. At the same time the media industry > hasn't changed much even as technology has given it the potential to solve > many of these issues. The end result is more misses than hits, and promising > original talent being burned out as they tire out from trying to get their > lucky break. I think it's time to change that. > > I've spoken to several tech and marketing execs who all agree that this is > an idea that is entirely feasible and self sustainable, and therefore worth > trying at the very least. I've spoken with others in the industry, including > other artists and creatives, who all tell me that they and everyone they > know would jump at the chance to partake in that concept because something > like this has been sorely lacking in the industry for nearly it's entire > history. So in the end, it could be at the very least a self sustainable and > unique niche site, or be even more, and disrupt and shift the entire > industry. > > It's not a concept that can be deployed overnight, but whose features can > be logically implemented over time to create an ever more full featured > product. The first iteration of the concept would be simple and could be up > and running fairly fast(in fact a simple prototype using open source > resources was built and successfully tested). However I need someone who > will be able to take it beyond that, and keep it going as new pieces of the > puzzle are being implemented and thought up. > > > I'm going to need a good LAMP developer who knows how to work with UGC and > a CMS, and wants to be part of building an idea that might carry them for > the long haul. I'm really looking for my long term technical team/partner(s) > to really make this idea and vision happen. > > > So if you went through the trouble of reading all that and don't think I'm > a nut for daring to think big, shoot me an email with your qualifications > and I'll let you know more of the details. > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dan at reea.net Wed Aug 20 11:00:04 2008 From: dan at reea.net (Dan Masca) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:00:04 +0300 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner to Make it Happen In-Reply-To: <1219243032.11198@coral.he.net> References: <1219243032.11198@coral.he.net> Message-ID: <48AC3174.8070607@reea.net> Hello Kristina, you are wrong:). We are Romanians and we don't work with 7$/hour :). We work from 0 USD/hour and up depends on the business type and we do pro bono work too , a lot of pro bono work. I work with partners from a lot of countries and the best one are the partners from USA. Why ? Because they have great ideas and know how how to make it alive. This know-how transfer to companies and peoples which work in that companies hlep us together to do better jobs. We make profit together and all the times businesses was win-win, based on respect for the other work. Because I own and manage a 90 peoples multimedia shop here in Transylvania land ( Dracula land too :) ) , i can say that I pay a lot of money for software licences and other equipments sell by companies from USA which make profit and which sell the software here at almost 30% higher prices sometimes than in US, so the profit goes to local community where the company is registered etc. I am sure that you know that internet help a lot the globalization and I am sure that you know that ROmania is part or EU and EU is a strategic partner for USA :). Anyway, my wife just come back from a conference from Harvard and she learn a lot from your countries and she will transfer the know how to Romanians students in some ways and part of Romanian student emigrate in USA and create there value for US country and life is beautiful and short :). have a great day ! Dan Kristina Anderson wrote: > Hope to heck they're using your Euros to pay engineers and not just > offering them BS "equity shares" which don't pay the bills!!!!!!! > > Ooops let's see they're using the "reea.net team" who undoubtedly are > Indians working for $7 an hour...right? > > NEXT!! > > >> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >> >> >> Hello, >> we work with start-ups from different States from some years ago. >> We invest our work for equity and small amount of money in 5 start- >> > ups. > >> One of the best experience we had with Toby Murdock and Mike Lewis. >> > They > >> are co-founders of www.qloud.com ( search for "MyMUSIC" plug-ins on >> different social networking sites) was done by us ( they and REEA.net >> team)for shares and small amount of money at the beginning. >> They respect our low rate and they respect the equity that my new >> > media > >> shop had. They were good and find angel investors and VC's after a >> > lot > >> of work . Not easy, but we fight together for this ideas even that we >> work at thousands miles distance. >> From some months ago www.qloud.com is part of www.buzznet.com >> >> We work for other start-up : www.cellit.com and related media >> > services > >> in special for radio station. >> We work right now in other two. One of them found the big investor >> > and > >> after almost 10months of work and some equity we have the chance to >> develop it the business for next 2-3 years. >> >> We believe in the dreams of our business partners and we try to share >> with them our experience and in almost all the situations we >> > understood > >> what we must do and how we can recover the investment. >> From my point of view is more important to be pro-active and to try >> > to > >> help the other and to learn how we can do good businesses . >> Of course that we don't invest money in something that don't have a >> business plan and a minimum market research, but all the time I will >> say : "I am interested and let's see if we can make profit and if is >> possible a big ones." :) >> I think that big ideas, need big dreamers too . >> >> Good luck to every entrepreneurs ! >> >> Dan MASCA >> www.reea.net >> >> >> Joseph Crawford wrote: >> >>> I have a great big idea too, there are only 2 main competitors.. >>> downfall is i do not have the ability to fund the project even >>> > though > >>> i would do all the programming myself there is server admin, front >>> > end > >>> designer / js guys etc. >>> >>> The only way I could get this off the ground would be to use a >>> template (i refuse to) or get friends to join in the deal. >>> >>> Trying to sell something to someone for 10% of ZERO is not going to >>> > work. > >>> On Aug 19, 2008, at 9:24 PM, New Media Concept wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I've got a pretty good idea that's been brewing in my head for >>>> > quite > >>>> a while. It's ambitious, audacious, and certainly a challenge, but >>>> > at > >>>> the same time, it's so audacious that it deserves nothing less >>>> > than a > >>>> real try. >>>> >>>> I used to work in the media industry and came to the painful >>>> realization that it's probably the only industry that does an >>>> incredibly poor job of bringing in new people and new ideas. At >>>> > the > >>>> same time the media industry hasn't changed much even as >>>> > technology > >>>> has given it the potential to solve many of these issues. The end >>>> result is more misses than hits, and promising original talent >>>> > being > >>>> burned out as they tire out from trying to get their lucky break. >>>> > I > >>>> think it's time to change that. >>>> >>>> I've spoken to several tech and marketing execs who all agree that >>>> this is an idea that is entirely feasible and self sustainable, >>>> > and > >>>> therefore worth trying at the very least. I've spoken with others >>>> > in > >>>> the industry, including other artists and creatives, who all tell >>>> > me > >>>> that they and everyone they know would jump at the chance to >>>> > partake > >>>> in that concept because something like this has been sorely >>>> > lacking > >>>> in the industry for nearly it's entire history. So in the end, it >>>> could be at the very least a self sustainable and unique niche >>>> > site, > >>>> or be even more, and disrupt and shift the entire industry. >>>> >>>> It's not a concept that can be deployed overnight, but whose >>>> > features > >>>> can be logically implemented over time to create an ever more full >>>> featured product. The first iteration of the concept would be >>>> > simple > >>>> and could be up and running fairly fast(in fact a simple prototype >>>> using open source resources was built and successfully tested). >>>> However I need someone who will be able to take it beyond that, >>>> > and > >>>> keep it going as new pieces of the puzzle are being implemented >>>> > and > >>>> thought up. >>>> >>>> I'm going to need a good LAMP developer who knows how to work with >>>> UGC and a CMS, and wants to be part of building an idea that might >>>> carry them for the long haul. I'm really looking for my long term >>>> technical team/partner(s) to really make this idea and vision >>>> > happen. > >>>> So if you went through the trouble of reading all that and don't >>>> think I'm a nut for daring to think big, shoot me an email with >>>> > your > >>>> qualifications and I'll let you know more of the details. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>>> >>>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>>> >>>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> > ---- > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List >>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs >>> >>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>> >>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>> > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nick at meetthefamous.com Wed Aug 20 11:10:48 2008 From: nick at meetthefamous.com (Nick Cavet) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:10:48 -0500 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner to Make it Happen In-Reply-To: <1219243557.13346@coral.he.net> References: <1219243557.13346@coral.he.net> Message-ID: <9612D955DA6C884581D3AA029542F7B4041AE44981@34093-MBX-C01.mex07a.mlsrvr.com> Here's an idea, how about writing some code instead of responding to this ridiculous email chain and billing your clients for it. -----Original Message----- From: jobs-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:jobs-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On Behalf Of Kristina Anderson Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:46 AM To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner to Make it Happen I had a brilliant idea also and that was, as a self employed programmer, to build stuff for people with these "great ideas". Now, thanks to all these people and their "great ideas" and "low budgets", I have some new great ideas. Such as being able to go to the dentist when I need to go, being able to afford decent food, and being able to pay rent on time. Full Time Job....here I come!! Cash is king -- it's so true. I'm done posting on this...but it sure did hit a nerve. > I have 2 great ideas too, one of them there's no competitor and the > other there are only one competitor, but it's years behind the new web > tendencies. > > I have all expertise to build each project, BUT my main issue is time. > Currently I work 10h/day in my own company and the rest of my > available time I help in open source projects (read as Doctrine and > Symfony). My company job is a fulltime work on a "brilliant idea" of > someone else, that has enough money to build it. > So, we all have our "brilliant ideas", but most of us never can make > it happen. If you have budget to hire someone to build it for you, > great.... otherwise... define new metas and "create" time to build by > yourself... > > > Cheers, > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Dan Masca wrote: > > > > Hello, > > we work with start-ups from different States from some years ago. > > We invest our work for equity and small amount of money in 5 start- ups. > > One of the best experience we had with Toby Murdock and Mike Lewis. They > > are co-founders of www.qloud.com ( search for "MyMUSIC" plug-ins on > > different social networking sites) was done by us ( they and REEA.net > > team)for shares and small amount of money at the beginning. > > They respect our low rate and they respect the equity that my new media > > shop had. They were good and find angel investors and VC's after a lot of > > work . Not easy, but we fight together for this ideas even that we work at > > thousands miles distance. > > >From some months ago www.qloud.com is part of www.buzznet.com > > > > We work for other start-up : www.cellit.com and related media services in > > special for radio station. > > We work right now in other two. One of them found the big investor and after > > almost 10months of work and some equity we have the chance to develop it the > > business for next 2-3 years. > > > > We believe in the dreams of our business partners and we try to share with > > them our experience and in almost all the situations we understood what we > > must do and how we can recover the investment. > > >From my point of view is more important to be pro-active and to try to help > > the other and to learn how we can do good businesses . > > Of course that we don't invest money in something that don't have a business > > plan and a minimum market research, but all the time I will say : "I am > > interested and let's see if we can make profit and if is possible a big > > ones." :) > > I think that big ideas, need big dreamers too . > > > > Good luck to every entrepreneurs ! > > > > Dan MASCA > > www.reea.net > > > > > > Joseph Crawford wrote: > > > > I have a great big idea too, there are only 2 main competitors.. downfall is > > i do not have the ability to fund the project even though i would do all the > > programming myself there is server admin, front end designer / js guys etc. > > The only way I could get this off the ground would be to use a template (i > > refuse to) or get friends to join in the deal. > > Trying to sell something to someone for 10% of ZERO is not going to work. > > > > On Aug 19, 2008, at 9:24 PM, New Media Concept wrote: > > > > I've got a pretty good idea that's been brewing in my head for quite a > > while. It's ambitious, audacious, and certainly a challenge, but at the same > > time, it's so audacious that it deserves nothing less than a real try. > > > > I used to work in the media industry and came to the painful realization > > that it's probably the only industry that does an incredibly poor job of > > bringing in new people and new ideas. At the same time the media industry > > hasn't changed much even as technology has given it the potential to solve > > many of these issues. The end result is more misses than hits, and promising > > original talent being burned out as they tire out from trying to get their > > lucky break. I think it's time to change that. > > > > I've spoken to several tech and marketing execs who all agree that this is > > an idea that is entirely feasible and self sustainable, and therefore worth > > trying at the very least. I've spoken with others in the industry, including > > other artists and creatives, who all tell me that they and everyone they > > know would jump at the chance to partake in that concept because something > > like this has been sorely lacking in the industry for nearly it's entire > > history. So in the end, it could be at the very least a self sustainable and > > unique niche site, or be even more, and disrupt and shift the entire > > industry. > > > > It's not a concept that can be deployed overnight, but whose features can be > > logically implemented over time to create an ever more full featured > > product. The first iteration of the concept would be simple and could be up > > and running fairly fast(in fact a simple prototype using open source > > resources was built and successfully tested). However I need someone who > > will be able to take it beyond that, and keep it going as new pieces of the > > puzzle are being implemented and thought up. > > > > I'm going to need a good LAMP developer who knows how to work with UGC and a > > CMS, and wants to be part of building an idea that might carry them for the > > long haul. I'm really looking for my long term technical team/partner(s) to > > really make this idea and vision happen. > > > > So if you went through the trouble of reading all that and don't think I'm a > > nut for daring to think big, shoot me an email with your qualifications and > > I'll let you know more of the details. > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > ________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > > > -- > Guilherme Blanco - Web Developer > CBC - Certified Bindows Consultant > Cell Phone: +55 (16) 9166-6902 > MSN: guilhermeblanco at hotmail.com > URL: http://blog.bisna.com > Rio de Janeiro - RJ/Brazil > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php From ka at kacomputerconsulting.com Wed Aug 20 11:25:27 2008 From: ka at kacomputerconsulting.com (Kristina Anderson) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:25:27 -0700 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner to Make it Happen Message-ID: <1219245927.26501@coral.he.net> Excuse me, I'm not billing my clients for posting these emails...and for you to suggest it in a public forum is slanderous and extremely improper. Who are you, anyway?? -- Kristina > Here's an idea, how about writing some code instead of responding to this ridiculous email chain and billing your clients for it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: jobs-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:jobs- bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On Behalf Of Kristina Anderson > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:46 AM > To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org > Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner to Make it Happen > > I had a brilliant idea also and that was, as a self employed > programmer, to build stuff for people with these "great ideas". > > Now, thanks to all these people and their "great ideas" and "low > budgets", I have some new great ideas. Such as being able to go to the > dentist when I need to go, being able to afford decent food, and being > able to pay rent on time. > > Full Time Job....here I come!! Cash is king -- it's so true. I'm done > posting on this...but it sure did hit a nerve. > > > I have 2 great ideas too, one of them there's no competitor and the > > other there are only one competitor, but it's years behind the new web > > tendencies. > > > > I have all expertise to build each project, BUT my main issue is time. > > Currently I work 10h/day in my own company and the rest of my > > available time I help in open source projects (read as Doctrine and > > Symfony). My company job is a fulltime work on a "brilliant idea" of > > someone else, that has enough money to build it. > > So, we all have our "brilliant ideas", but most of us never can make > > it happen. If you have budget to hire someone to build it for you, > > great.... otherwise... define new metas and "create" time to build by > > yourself... > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Dan Masca wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > we work with start-ups from different States from some years ago. > > > We invest our work for equity and small amount of money in 5 start- > ups. > > > One of the best experience we had with Toby Murdock and Mike Lewis. > They > > > are co-founders of www.qloud.com ( search for "MyMUSIC" plug-ins on > > > different social networking sites) was done by us ( they and > REEA.net > > > team)for shares and small amount of money at the beginning. > > > They respect our low rate and they respect the equity that my new > media > > > shop had. They were good and find angel investors and VC's after a > lot of > > > work . Not easy, but we fight together for this ideas even that we > work at > > > thousands miles distance. > > > >From some months ago www.qloud.com is part of www.buzznet.com > > > > > > We work for other start-up : www.cellit.com and related media > services in > > > special for radio station. > > > We work right now in other two. One of them found the big investor > and after > > > almost 10months of work and some equity we have the chance to > develop it the > > > business for next 2-3 years. > > > > > > We believe in the dreams of our business partners and we try to > share with > > > them our experience and in almost all the situations we understood > what we > > > must do and how we can recover the investment. > > > >From my point of view is more important to be pro-active and to > try to help > > > the other and to learn how we can do good businesses . > > > Of course that we don't invest money in something that don't have a > business > > > plan and a minimum market research, but all the time I will > say : "I am > > > interested and let's see if we can make profit and if is possible a > big > > > ones." :) > > > I think that big ideas, need big dreamers too . > > > > > > Good luck to every entrepreneurs ! > > > > > > Dan MASCA > > > www.reea.net > > > > > > > > > Joseph Crawford wrote: > > > > > > I have a great big idea too, there are only 2 main competitors.. > downfall is > > > i do not have the ability to fund the project even though i would > do all the > > > programming myself there is server admin, front end designer / js > guys etc. > > > The only way I could get this off the ground would be to use a > template (i > > > refuse to) or get friends to join in the deal. > > > Trying to sell something to someone for 10% of ZERO is not going to > work. > > > > > > On Aug 19, 2008, at 9:24 PM, New Media Concept wrote: > > > > > > I've got a pretty good idea that's been brewing in my head for > quite a > > > while. It's ambitious, audacious, and certainly a challenge, but at > the same > > > time, it's so audacious that it deserves nothing less than a real > try. > > > > > > I used to work in the media industry and came to the painful > realization > > > that it's probably the only industry that does an incredibly poor > job of > > > bringing in new people and new ideas. At the same time the media > industry > > > hasn't changed much even as technology has given it the potential > to solve > > > many of these issues. The end result is more misses than hits, and > promising > > > original talent being burned out as they tire out from trying to > get their > > > lucky break. I think it's time to change that. > > > > > > I've spoken to several tech and marketing execs who all agree that > this is > > > an idea that is entirely feasible and self sustainable, and > therefore worth > > > trying at the very least. I've spoken with others in the industry, > including > > > other artists and creatives, who all tell me that they and everyone > they > > > know would jump at the chance to partake in that concept because > something > > > like this has been sorely lacking in the industry for nearly it's > entire > > > history. So in the end, it could be at the very least a self > sustainable and > > > unique niche site, or be even more, and disrupt and shift the entire > > > industry. > > > > > > It's not a concept that can be deployed overnight, but whose > features can be > > > logically implemented over time to create an ever more full featured > > > product. The first iteration of the concept would be simple and > could be up > > > and running fairly fast(in fact a simple prototype using open source > > > resources was built and successfully tested). However I need > someone who > > > will be able to take it beyond that, and keep it going as new > pieces of the > > > puzzle are being implemented and thought up. > > > > > > I'm going to need a good LAMP developer who knows how to work with > UGC and a > > > CMS, and wants to be part of building an idea that might carry them > for the > > > long haul. I'm really looking for my long term technical > team/partner(s) to > > > really make this idea and vision happen. > > > > > > So if you went through the trouble of reading all that and don't > think I'm a > > > nut for daring to think big, shoot me an email with your > qualifications and > > > I'll let you know more of the details. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Guilherme Blanco - Web Developer > > CBC - Certified Bindows Consultant > > Cell Phone: +55 (16) 9166-6902 > > MSN: guilhermeblanco at hotmail.com > > URL: http://blog.bisna.com > > Rio de Janeiro - RJ/Brazil > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > From mmaurele at ctiteksource.com Wed Aug 20 11:33:24 2008 From: mmaurele at ctiteksource.com (Michael Marc-Aurele) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:33:24 -0700 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner to Make it Happen In-Reply-To: <9612D955DA6C884581D3AA029542F7B4041AE44981@34093-MBX-C01.mex07a.mlsrvr.com> References: <1219243557.13346@coral.he.net> <9612D955DA6C884581D3AA029542F7B4041AE44981@34093-MBX-C01.mex07a.mlsrvr.com> Message-ID: <4834A58BDF43324E8821341DFCF1BE3277C84692D3@EXVMBX015-5.exch015.msoutlookonline.net> Best Idea Ive heard all day -----Original Message----- From: jobs-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:jobs-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On Behalf Of Nick Cavet Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:11 AM To: Kristina Anderson; jobs at lists.nyphp.org Subject: RE: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner to Make it Happen Here's an idea, how about writing some code instead of responding to this ridiculous email chain and billing your clients for it. -----Original Message----- From: jobs-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:jobs-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On Behalf Of Kristina Anderson Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:46 AM To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner to Make it Happen I had a brilliant idea also and that was, as a self employed programmer, to build stuff for people with these "great ideas". Now, thanks to all these people and their "great ideas" and "low budgets", I have some new great ideas. Such as being able to go to the dentist when I need to go, being able to afford decent food, and being able to pay rent on time. Full Time Job....here I come!! Cash is king -- it's so true. I'm done posting on this...but it sure did hit a nerve. > I have 2 great ideas too, one of them there's no competitor and the > other there are only one competitor, but it's years behind the new web > tendencies. > > I have all expertise to build each project, BUT my main issue is time. > Currently I work 10h/day in my own company and the rest of my > available time I help in open source projects (read as Doctrine and > Symfony). My company job is a fulltime work on a "brilliant idea" of > someone else, that has enough money to build it. > So, we all have our "brilliant ideas", but most of us never can make > it happen. If you have budget to hire someone to build it for you, > great.... otherwise... define new metas and "create" time to build by > yourself... > > > Cheers, > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Dan Masca wrote: > > > > Hello, > > we work with start-ups from different States from some years ago. > > We invest our work for equity and small amount of money in 5 start- ups. > > One of the best experience we had with Toby Murdock and Mike Lewis. They > > are co-founders of www.qloud.com ( search for "MyMUSIC" plug-ins on > > different social networking sites) was done by us ( they and REEA.net > > team)for shares and small amount of money at the beginning. > > They respect our low rate and they respect the equity that my new media > > shop had. They were good and find angel investors and VC's after a lot of > > work . Not easy, but we fight together for this ideas even that we work at > > thousands miles distance. > > >From some months ago www.qloud.com is part of www.buzznet.com > > > > We work for other start-up : www.cellit.com and related media services in > > special for radio station. > > We work right now in other two. One of them found the big investor and after > > almost 10months of work and some equity we have the chance to develop it the > > business for next 2-3 years. > > > > We believe in the dreams of our business partners and we try to share with > > them our experience and in almost all the situations we understood what we > > must do and how we can recover the investment. > > >From my point of view is more important to be pro-active and to try to help > > the other and to learn how we can do good businesses . > > Of course that we don't invest money in something that don't have a business > > plan and a minimum market research, but all the time I will say : "I am > > interested and let's see if we can make profit and if is possible a big > > ones." :) > > I think that big ideas, need big dreamers too . > > > > Good luck to every entrepreneurs ! > > > > Dan MASCA > > www.reea.net > > > > > > Joseph Crawford wrote: > > > > I have a great big idea too, there are only 2 main competitors.. downfall is > > i do not have the ability to fund the project even though i would do all the > > programming myself there is server admin, front end designer / js guys etc. > > The only way I could get this off the ground would be to use a template (i > > refuse to) or get friends to join in the deal. > > Trying to sell something to someone for 10% of ZERO is not going to work. > > > > On Aug 19, 2008, at 9:24 PM, New Media Concept wrote: > > > > I've got a pretty good idea that's been brewing in my head for quite a > > while. It's ambitious, audacious, and certainly a challenge, but at the same > > time, it's so audacious that it deserves nothing less than a real try. > > > > I used to work in the media industry and came to the painful realization > > that it's probably the only industry that does an incredibly poor job of > > bringing in new people and new ideas. At the same time the media industry > > hasn't changed much even as technology has given it the potential to solve > > many of these issues. The end result is more misses than hits, and promising > > original talent being burned out as they tire out from trying to get their > > lucky break. I think it's time to change that. > > > > I've spoken to several tech and marketing execs who all agree that this is > > an idea that is entirely feasible and self sustainable, and therefore worth > > trying at the very least. I've spoken with others in the industry, including > > other artists and creatives, who all tell me that they and everyone they > > know would jump at the chance to partake in that concept because something > > like this has been sorely lacking in the industry for nearly it's entire > > history. So in the end, it could be at the very least a self sustainable and > > unique niche site, or be even more, and disrupt and shift the entire > > industry. > > > > It's not a concept that can be deployed overnight, but whose features can be > > logically implemented over time to create an ever more full featured > > product. The first iteration of the concept would be simple and could be up > > and running fairly fast(in fact a simple prototype using open source > > resources was built and successfully tested). However I need someone who > > will be able to take it beyond that, and keep it going as new pieces of the > > puzzle are being implemented and thought up. > > > > I'm going to need a good LAMP developer who knows how to work with UGC and a > > CMS, and wants to be part of building an idea that might carry them for the > > long haul. I'm really looking for my long term technical team/partner(s) to > > really make this idea and vision happen. > > > > So if you went through the trouble of reading all that and don't think I'm a > > nut for daring to think big, shoot me an email with your qualifications and > > I'll let you know more of the details. > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > ________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > > > -- > Guilherme Blanco - Web Developer > CBC - Certified Bindows Consultant > Cell Phone: +55 (16) 9166-6902 > MSN: guilhermeblanco at hotmail.com > URL: http://blog.bisna.com > Rio de Janeiro - RJ/Brazil > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com Wed Aug 20 11:35:49 2008 From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:35:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner to Make it Happen Message-ID: <273456.52468.qm@web35602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Krisitina, thanks to you, I may be out of a job soon -- your "brilliant idea" had me laughing out loud at my desk and my boss wanted to know what was so funny! ----- Original Message ---- From: Kristina Anderson To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:45:57 AM Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner to Make it Happen I had a brilliant idea also and that was, as a self employed programmer, to build stuff for people with these "great ideas". Now, thanks to all these people and their "great ideas" and "low budgets", I have some new great ideas. Such as being able to go to the dentist when I need to go, being able to afford decent food, and being able to pay rent on time. Full Time Job....here I come!! Cash is king -- it's so true. I'm done posting on this...but it sure did hit a nerve. > I have 2 great ideas too, one of them there's no competitor and the > other there are only one competitor, but it's years behind the new web > tendencies. > > I have all expertise to build each project, BUT my main issue is time. > Currently I work 10h/day in my own company and the rest of my > available time I help in open source projects (read as Doctrine and > Symfony). My company job is a fulltime work on a "brilliant idea" of > someone else, that has enough money to build it. > So, we all have our "brilliant ideas", but most of us never can make > it happen. If you have budget to hire someone to build it for you, > great.... otherwise... define new metas and "create" time to build by > yourself... > > > Cheers, > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Dan Masca wrote: > > > > Hello, > > we work with start-ups from different States from some years ago. > > We invest our work for equity and small amount of money in 5 start- ups. > > One of the best experience we had with Toby Murdock and Mike Lewis. They > > are co-founders of www.qloud.com ( search for "MyMUSIC" plug-ins on > > different social networking sites) was done by us ( they and REEA.net > > team)for shares and small amount of money at the beginning. > > They respect our low rate and they respect the equity that my new media > > shop had. They were good and find angel investors and VC's after a lot of > > work . Not easy, but we fight together for this ideas even that we work at > > thousands miles distance. > > >From some months ago www.qloud.com is part of www.buzznet.com > > > > We work for other start-up : www.cellit.com and related media services in > > special for radio station. > > We work right now in other two. One of them found the big investor and after > > almost 10months of work and some equity we have the chance to develop it the > > business for next 2-3 years. > > > > We believe in the dreams of our business partners and we try to share with > > them our experience and in almost all the situations we understood what we > > must do and how we can recover the investment. > > >From my point of view is more important to be pro-active and to try to help > > the other and to learn how we can do good businesses . > > Of course that we don't invest money in something that don't have a business > > plan and a minimum market research, but all the time I will say : "I am > > interested and let's see if we can make profit and if is possible a big > > ones." :) > > I think that big ideas, need big dreamers too . > > > > Good luck to every entrepreneurs ! > > > > Dan MASCA > > www.reea.net > > > > > > Joseph Crawford wrote: > > > > I have a great big idea too, there are only 2 main competitors.. downfall is > > i do not have the ability to fund the project even though i would do all the > > programming myself there is server admin, front end designer / js guys etc. > > The only way I could get this off the ground would be to use a template (i > > refuse to) or get friends to join in the deal. > > Trying to sell something to someone for 10% of ZERO is not going to work. > > > > On Aug 19, 2008, at 9:24 PM, New Media Concept wrote: > > > > I've got a pretty good idea that's been brewing in my head for quite a > > while. It's ambitious, audacious, and certainly a challenge, but at the same > > time, it's so audacious that it deserves nothing less than a real try. > > > > I used to work in the media industry and came to the painful realization > > that it's probably the only industry that does an incredibly poor job of > > bringing in new people and new ideas. At the same time the media industry > > hasn't changed much even as technology has given it the potential to solve > > many of these issues. The end result is more misses than hits, and promising > > original talent being burned out as they tire out from trying to get their > > lucky break. I think it's time to change that. > > > > I've spoken to several tech and marketing execs who all agree that this is > > an idea that is entirely feasible and self sustainable, and therefore worth > > trying at the very least. I've spoken with others in the industry, including > > other artists and creatives, who all tell me that they and everyone they > > know would jump at the chance to partake in that concept because something > > like this has been sorely lacking in the industry for nearly it's entire > > history. So in the end, it could be at the very least a self sustainable and > > unique niche site, or be even more, and disrupt and shift the entire > > industry. > > > > It's not a concept that can be deployed overnight, but whose features can be > > logically implemented over time to create an ever more full featured > > product. The first iteration of the concept would be simple and could be up > > and running fairly fast(in fact a simple prototype using open source > > resources was built and successfully tested). However I need someone who > > will be able to take it beyond that, and keep it going as new pieces of the > > puzzle are being implemented and thought up. > > > > I'm going to need a good LAMP developer who knows how to work with UGC and a > > CMS, and wants to be part of building an idea that might carry them for the > > long haul. I'm really looking for my long term technical team/partner(s) to > > really make this idea and vision happen. > > > > So if you went through the trouble of reading all that and don't think I'm a > > nut for daring to think big, shoot me an email with your qualifications and > > I'll let you know more of the details. > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > ________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > > > -- > Guilherme Blanco - Web Developer > CBC - Certified Bindows Consultant > Cell Phone: +55 (16) 9166-6902 > MSN: guilhermeblanco at hotmail.com > URL: http://blog.bisna.com > Rio de Janeiro - RJ/Brazil > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Jobs Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php From avidenie at gmail.com Thu Aug 21 03:31:46 2008 From: avidenie at gmail.com (Adrian Videnie) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:31:46 +0300 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner to Make it Happen In-Reply-To: <1219243557.13346@coral.he.net> References: <1219243557.13346@coral.he.net> Message-ID: <48AD19E2.7080109@gmail.com> Kristina Anderson wrote: > I had a brilliant idea also and that was, as a self employed > programmer, to build stuff for people with these "great ideas". > I have another great idea for you, Kristina. Why don't you start using an e-mail client that doesn't break any freaking thread you participate in? And maybe instead of boring us with your childish e-mails, you can start using google to find out what an ternary operator is before "building stuff for people with these great ideas or even better read about netiquette and you will see why it's polite to delete the irrelevant parts from the reply and why it sucks to top-post. Thanks, Adrian From scott at comforcestaffing.com Thu Aug 21 16:12:35 2008 From: scott at comforcestaffing.com (Scott Schnierer) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:12:35 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Full time PHP/MySQL Developer needed for Medical Company Northern New Jersey!! Message-ID: <012c01c903ca$419aa220$0a00a8c0@USS.local> Hello everyone, My name is Scott Schnierer and I am a Search Consultant with Comforce, a nationwide recruiting firm located in Paramus, NJ. My client is a leader in medical research solutions. Their mission is to be a premier medical research organization conducting rehabilitation research that will improve health and promote wellness for persons with physical disabilities, musculoskeletal and neurological conditions. The opportunity available is for a full time PHP/MySQL Developer for their New Jersey headquarters. The objective of this role is to consolidate various web sites in to one full integrated web site utilizing front and back end technologies. Requirements include a minimum of 2 years of experience with Internet and web technologies; expertise in web programming, databases, and web systems; creativity and technical innovation; and proficiency with Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP, HTML, Javascript, Flash, and Perl. Familiarity with health-related content and/or experience in a healthcare environment would be a plus. Salary Range is commensurate with experience. Medical, Dental, Vision, 401k, Expenses included. If you would like to learn more for yourself, pop me an email back (preferably, with a resume attached as a Word Doc) and give me a phone call. Preferential treatment will be given to candidates that apply through our CRM solution at http://12.199.64.171/worldlink40/main.aspx?action=RegisterTalent&mode=initia l Thanks, Scott -------------------------------------------------------- Scott Schnierer Vice President of Marketing and Business Development Comforce Staffing Services Certified WBE (Woman-owned Business Enterprise) Certified SBE (Small Business Enterprise) 40 East Midland Ave. Paramus, NJ 07652 Ph: 201-599-9100 Fax: 201-599-1947 scott at comforcestaffing.com Visit us at www.comforcestaffing.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Architect a Joomla Content Management System and port over their existing content. 8000 records, 12000 user accounts, blogs, video, graphics, etc. etc. Additional skills needed are HTML, CSS, JavaScript, PHP, Markup Language (XML?). Architect will do initial scope of work and then implement the solution. Focus on Search Engine Optimization. Current form has way too many images and nested tables, etc. They have 2 systems now, an old PHP/SQL system that has problems and a newer Joomla system that was not designed with Best Practices and SEO in mind. Sincerely, Mike Marc-Aurele Senior Resource Manager CTI TEKSOURCE LLC 45 West 21st Street 4th Floor New York, New York 10010 212 453-9009 Direct 973 557-5386 Mobile 212 453-9010 MAIN 212 453-9011 FAX Mmaurele at CTITEKSource.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Technology Requirement * PHP 4 and 5 (zend framework experience is a big plus) * Perl 5 (Object Oriented Programming is a plus) * MySQL * Ability to code without the use of WYSIWYG editors (vi(m) or emacs) * Strong knowledge of HTML, xHTML, CSS and JavaScript is a big plus * Intermediate understanding of administering Unix / Apache / MySql environment is required (MySql replication administration is a big plus) Additional skills that are a big plus to this position * Familiarity with RSS/XML standards * Experience building web-based tools & applications * Database design & optimization experience Requirements: * Ability to work at least 40 hours on site in our offices downtown New York City * Ability to put in a bit of extra time nights/weekends (from anywhere) when crises arise. * Can work independently with little direct supervision * Maintain project timelines and meet all project deadlines * Willingness to tackle unfamiliar problems and take the time to discover "best practice" solutions * Excellent communication skills, both written & verbal * Familiarity with the basics of building a ecommerce & content sites. Benefits Include: * Medical Program by Oxford Heath Group (PPO) * Sponsored Physical Fitness Program with NY Sports Club * 401 K Plan * Profit Sharing Plan. * Life Insurance * Paid Vacation & Holidays * Continuing Education Program * Flexible spending plan * Associate Discounts and Savings Competitive Salary Offered and Dependant on Experience!!!!!!!!!!! If you want to know more about Shoplet and the position, send an email!!!!!!!!!! How to Apply: Send your resume and a brief cover letter to: jobs at shoplet.com Leslie H. Scharf Senior Vice President and General Counsel | Shoplet.com P Think before you print Notice: This e-mail and any attachments may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information intended only for the named addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, please be advised that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and attachments is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete this e-mail and any attachments and destroy any printouts. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rcacciato at blue-iceberg.com Mon Aug 25 11:51:10 2008 From: rcacciato at blue-iceberg.com (Richard Cacciato) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:51:10 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Looking for an experienced Joomla Developer Message-ID: Blue Iceberg is looking for an experienced Joomla Developer to lead the backend development of a new website project expected to last 4-6 weeks with a launch date of approximately October 1. This is a 3/4 time contract position reporting to our Senior Developer, but interfacing with our talented, tightly-knit web team of strategists, creatives and front end developers. If you're interested and ready to start immediately onsite at Blue Iceberg in Chelsea (29th and 7th), please respond with: - your resume, - a code sample, and - a short cover email describing the skills and assets you bring to Blue Iceberg and why we should select you. Please email your response to jobs at blue-iceberg.com. Richard Cacciato Partner Blue Iceberg LLC Interactive Strategy | Web Development | Integrated Marketing 146 West 29th Street, Studio 11W New York, NY 10001 Tel: 212.337.9920 http://www.blue-iceberg.com From matt at reconstrukt.com Mon Aug 25 13:22:26 2008 From: matt at reconstrukt.com (Matthew Knight) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:22:26 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Wanted: Geocoding Ninja References: <1218665470.22571@coral.he.net> <48A36EAD.2040400@omnistep.com> Message-ID: Hi, ETL gig involving bulk-geocoding a table of Location names. You'll need to be familiar with the Geonames service (and perhaps Yahoo/Google geocoding APIs) and have solid SQL skills. You'll be given 3 MySQL tables: 1.) A "Locations" table containing 7400 international locations. Each location row has a "parent id" defined, creating a hierarchical relationship between the various locations. So, more precise names can be created by recursively concatenating the location names together. For example: -- World (id = 0, parent = null) -- United States (id = 100, parent = 0) -- New York (id = 200, parent = 100) -- Montauk (id = 300, parent = 200) 2.) A table of US zip codes (will help to disambiguate some US locations). 3.) A table of country codes (will help to break up the lookups into country chunks) Your delivarable: 1.) A plan/approach to geocoding. This will outline the steps you'll take before doing any work. For example, perhaps you'd want to join countries -> locations, pull geonames feeds for those countries, break down the lookups by country. Also, what's your plan for disambuating the lookup results? If you want to write a loop that hits geonames 7500 times with a raw location name, thank you in advance for not replying. :) 2.) An updated Locations table containing 5 new fields: a.) lat coord b.) long coord c.) foreign key to the US zip code table (if applicable) d.) foreign key to the Country table e.) geonames ID Cheers, Matt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jobs at bandwidthproductions.com Tue Aug 26 13:20:56 2008 From: jobs at bandwidthproductions.com (Jobs (Bandwidth Productions)) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:20:56 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Full Time Developer (Salary + Benefits + No Bureaucracy) Message-ID: <00ac01c907a0$19e946d0$0300a8c0@MAINCOMP> > Bandwidth Productions is a three person, Webby Award winning web > development/design shop based in Chelsea. We are financially stable > with long time clients, but also make time to work on our own fun > projects. > We offer you the unique opportunity to work in an entrepreneurial > environment for a company that has a consistent revenue source. We > offer a competitive salary (60-80k), health/vision/dental benefits, > regular hours and profit sharing (after one year). > You will develop complex, custom PHP applications from start to finish > for our clients, many of which are well known. You will also develop > new applications for FIQL.com, our homegrown music social network that > has been featured in Wired, TechCrunch, The Wall Street Journal and > other publications. > The following skills are REQUIRED: > 1. Minimum of 2-3 solid years building custom applications from the > ground up in PHP/MYSQL > 2. Proficiency in XHTML, Javascript, CSS, XML > The following skills are DESIRED: > 1. BS in Computer Science or related field > 2. Experience with MVC frameworks (CodeIgniter a big plus) > 3. Experience in configuring and managing LAMP based servers which may > include: > . use of RPM or other package managers > . Experience in Pear package use and installation > > 4. Experience building and using social networking (Web 2.0) > applications > HOW TO APPLY: > Contact: jobs at bandwidthproductions.com > Send resume with URLs and/or descriptions of relevant web applications > you've developed, describing your duties and responsibilities. > ABOUT THE COMPANY: > Website: BandwidthProductions.com > Bandwidth Productions, Inc. is a small, very active web design and > development agency located in Chelsea, NY (26th and 7th). We provide > end-to-end web solutions from design to development to hosting. We > also produce FIQL.com, a popular music playlist social network wholly > owned and operated by us. We are small so decisions are made quickly. > We have been around since 2001 and have been profitable from day one. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.devito at scivantage.com Tue Aug 26 17:30:20 2008 From: michael.devito at scivantage.com (Michael DeVito) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:30:20 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] php opening Message-ID: Scivantage currently has an opening for a Fulltime/Permanent PHP (Front End) Software Developer. This position is located out of Jersey City (working for a financial client). Salary is 60-65K. If this is not a match or if you are not looking please feel free to pass this info along to anyone you might know of that would be interested/qualified. Required Skills * 3+ years of PHP (object oriented) experience (Objects, XML) * UNIX, Apache * Proficient in JavaScript/HTML/CSS * Working knowledge of Photoshop (Image manipulation) * Ability to translate project design into code, working within an existing PHP infrastructure * Good source code control * Unit Testing w/i.e. PHP Unit, Simple Test * Understanding of development life cycle * Ability to work in a team environment * Must meet tight deadlines and work on several projects simultaneously * Excellent oral/written communication and problem-solving skills * Review design specs and give time estimations * Candidates must be able to supply working urls representing projects they have worked on in whole or in part. Source code samples are not required but are recommended. If interested please send resumes directly to Michael.devito at scivantage.com Michael L. De Vito Senior Technical Recruiter Scivantage 10 Exchange Place, 13th Floor Jersey City NJ 07302 Phone:(646)435-4922 Fax: (646)201-5741 michael.devito at scivantage.com www.scivantage.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From khansbury at winterwyman.com Tue Aug 26 22:02:24 2008 From: khansbury at winterwyman.com (Kainne Hansbury) Date: 26 Aug 2008 22:02:24 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Hello Dumbo! Message-ID: <309607719.1219802544762.JavaMail.cfservice@webserver50> I'm looking for a superstar drupal developer and Drupal Themer for one of my client in the Dumbo section of Brooklyn. Great opportunity to join a fast paced environment working in a high visibility role. The bar is high, you need to be strong PHP and Drupal developer. You will be building and implementing new site functionality. You will be writing new custom Drupal modules therefore community contributors are strongly encouraged to apply. To be considered you must be: - A strong PHP and Drupal developer. - An implementer of best practices for development, configuration and deployment of consumer facing drupal sites. - a US Citizen or green card holder, no visa candidates will be accepted at this time. To be considered for this role and others like it please send your resume and contact information with the expectation of complete confidentiality. KHansbury at WinterWyman.com Find me on LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kainnehansbury -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gary066 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 27 10:59:48 2008 From: gary066 at yahoo.com (gary066 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:59:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [nycphp-jobs] LAMP position 90-100K salary In-Reply-To: <4834A58BDF43324E8821341DFCF1BE3277C84DB5DF@EXVMBX015-5.exch015.msoutlookonline.net> Message-ID: <42518.56670.qm@web32702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> All, I have LAMP position available: 90-100K salary. Nice client. E-mail me privately if you are interested. Gary From JeffreySchreider at mergisgroup.com Wed Aug 27 11:02:18 2008 From: JeffreySchreider at mergisgroup.com (Schreider, Jeffrey) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:02:18 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] PHP/MySQL Developer (Full Time Opportunity) for posting to lists.nyphp.org Message-ID: Posted to lists.nyphp.org on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 Role: PHP/MySQL Developer Term: Full Time Role Available: Immediate Industry: Mobile Phone Company Location; Downtown New York, New York Pay: $55,000 to $85,000 per year (Depending on Experience Level) Job Description: The Development Team is responsible for our web and wap front end, database tier, and mobile content delivery. The team will participate in developing new applications, customizing them for individual customers and partners and adding personalization to our web capabilities. This developer will work closely with technical management, technology architects, and other developers and testers at throughout the requirements, design, and implementation phases of projects ranging from small to very large. The ideal candidate will have extensive PHP experience, database experience, and large-scale systems experience. Ability to work in a remote management environment an absolute must. Specific Responsibilities Include: Working effectively with cross-functional groups to understand and implement requirements. Closely following written design specifications to ensure that software fits into our overall architecture, addresses requirements, and is testable. Providing and meeting time commitments for development projects. Communicating status and issues orally and in writing in a timely manner. Qualifications: Within our start-up environment, you should be prepared to be flexible and help out in several cross-functional areas. The opportunity to grow, learn and contribute immeasurably is boundless. All applicants should have demonstrated experience in all of the following areas. * At least 5 years experience web programming with PHP and MySQL using object oriented design, database abstraction, and templating systems. * Strong understanding of Internet protocols and Networks is required. * Experience using Linux is required. * Linux system administration experience a plus. * At least 2 year of experience in XML language. * Proven background in the design, development and deployment of complex operational systems required. INTERESTED AND QUALIFIED CANDIDATES CAN SEND THEIR RESUME IN CONFIDENCE TO JeffreySchreider at mergisgroup.com YOUR RESUME WILL NEVER BE SENT ANYWHERE UNTIL WE HAVE SPOKEN AND MUTUALLY AGREE THAT THE ROLE UNDER CONSIDERATION MAKES SENSE FOR YOU. * Full Time Local Candidates Are Preferred (No Relocation Assistance is offered) * No Third Party Submissions Are Acceptable * No Restricted Visa Candidates Can Be Considered * It is not acceptable to repost this role to any other forums or boards. Jeffrey Schreider Senior Executive Recruiter Operations and Finance Technology The Mergis Group 750 Washington Boulevard 6th Floor Stamford, CT 06902 Direct: 203-388-2173 http://www.mergisgroup.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mergisinfotechcareers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Arthur Kaye Concepts in Staffing v.212-293-4353 9 E. 37th St. 2nd floor f. 212-652-0787 New York, NY 10016 kaye at cisny.com 212-725-0300 http://www.cisny.com/ From hartley.jay at gmail.com Wed Aug 27 13:07:07 2008 From: hartley.jay at gmail.com (jay hartley) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:07:07 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Full time Lamp Developer Opportunity Message-ID: <65151eaa0808271007i42defc54ga0f3d35c9ad0cc2e@mail.gmail.com> Fulltime LAMP developer opportunity: http://careers.taunton.com/ext/detail.asp?tp215 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From resumes at worldnetjobs.com Wed Aug 27 20:27:48 2008 From: resumes at worldnetjobs.com (resumes) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:27:48 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Global Personals, LLC: PHP Programmer (LAMP) - Union Square (Fulltime role) - Please no recruiter emails Message-ID: <045c01c908a4$e8c56880$ba503980$@com> Global Personals, LLC "Changing the World Through Online Dating" (Miami Beach, FL - New York City/Union Square, Baltimore, MD - San Francisco, CA - McLean, VA) Global Personals LLC is focused on the design and implementation of effective online dating communities. Since 2003, we have been creating cutting-edge communication tools that enable millions of members to quickly and easily spice up their lives! With over 12,000,000 member profiles and growing, our portfolio of top-notch free and paid subscription sites (WebDate.com, WealthyMen.com, and Fling.com) continue to redefine the ways that people communicate and meet online. Interested in a casual, fun, and exciting work environment? We have offices in Miami Beach, New York, Baltimore, Los Angeles and San Francisco. Please check out our most recent job postings. We offer a casual work environment, creative programming & design teams, along with name brand clients that can't be beat. We have an exceptional reputation in the marketplace and are well known among our competitors. Based on increasing demand for our services we are looking for a Senior Software Engineer with solid a PHP skillset to join our dynamic team. Job Description: . Looking for a true PHP programmer that loves to hack code in several languages and has fun doing it. . Design, develop, maintain and optimize secure and scalable multi-tier web applications. . Strong knowledge of PHP, Perl, JavaScript, UNIX shell, SQL, HTML, CSS, XML. . Comfortable with both object oriented and procedural programming methodologies. . Experience with PHP5 and MySQL5 preferable. . Experience with C, C++, Java, Python, and other languages a plus. . Knowledge installing, configuring and maintaining Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP packages. . Strong knowledge of stored procedures, triggers, indexes, table normalization and database design. . Familiarity with Zeus Web Server a big plus. . Knowledge of AJAX development a plus. . Comfortable hacking and compiling Linux software packages. . Strong understanding of software development life-cycle and best practices. . Proficiency in working and developing on Linux (any flavor - debian, redhat, ubuntu, slackware etc. . Create cutting-edge web applications while solving complex programs and analyzing extremely high-traffic web data Requirements: . BS/MS in CS/CE or significant work experience. . Must be able to gather requirements, design, code and test independently as well as work jointly with the team. What we offer: A HIGHLY competitive salary, 100% company-paid benefits (medical, dental, vision, life) for employee, Flexible hours, paid vacation, relocation assistance (where needed), great work environment and cool and exciting projects. We have been in business for 10+ years and are very profitable. Apply today!!! Send resume to: jobs at globalpersonalsmedia.com or you may apply via response to this mail. For more information about Global Personals, LLC, visit http://www.globalpersonalsmedia.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bokelley at appnexus.com Wed Aug 27 23:05:43 2008 From: bokelley at appnexus.com (Brian O'Kelley) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:05:43 -0700 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] PHP developer/architect to build a black box regression test suite for a RESTful interface Message-ID: AppNexus is developing a RESTful API to control a software service. The product is evolving quickly, and to ensure that the documentation and implementation are in sync, we need a black box regression test suite that implements what is _documented_, not necessarily what the system actually does. We would like a senior developer who has experience working with APIs. One of the key results from this process should be ongoing feedback about the design of the system and the quality of the documentation. Fixing a design flaw is equally as valuable as finding a bug in the code. Our team is experienced, so sloppy code will not be tolerated. We have a sandbox environment ready for testing, with scripts that will build/update the system automatically. We use Subversion for version control. Follow-on work is likely, and this project will continue as the system and specs evolve. AppNexus has raised more than $10MM in the past twelve months from top investors. We are also looking for senior development / engineering talent, so feel free to chat with us about that as well. For more information, please contact me at bokelley at appnexus.com. Brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Sonali.Nimbagiri at ucaservices.com Thu Aug 28 14:19:01 2008 From: Sonali.Nimbagiri at ucaservices.com (Sonali Nimbagiri) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:19:01 -0400 Subject: [nycphp-jobs] FW: PHP Developer Opportunity in NYC Message-ID: <8B0EA282BD70E442B470C3B98B0DDF14043B43@nfnjexch04.ucaservices.int> > Hello Everyone, > > We have a contract to perm position with one of our clients in NYC for a PHP Developer. This position focuses on front-end development involved in building a new website platform based on LAMP, Drupal and AJAX. > Please review the job description given below and let me know if you are interested in pursuing this opportunity and you can also refer someone else who is interested. > > Call me or email if you have any questions. > > Responsibilities: > * Collaborate on defining requirements, deliverables, and milestones for user-facing features of a large website > * Design, implement and test production-ready features for content management and delivery system > * Lightly document code and create supporting artifacts as necessary > Required: > * BS in Computer Science, or equivalent. > * 3+ years of software engineering experience. > * Experience programming in PHP 5 (a must), Java or C/C++ (preferred) > * Expertise in XHTML, CSS, JavaScript, AJAX, XML. > Desired: > * Experience in database development, specifically MySQL 5. > * Experience with a web content management system like Drupal (preferred), Joomla or Alfresco > * Experience working in an agile software development environment (Scrum preferred) > * Knowledge of UNIX/Linux environments, specifically shell commands and scripting. > * Experience developing and designing large commercial web sites. > > > Regards, > Sonali Nimbagiri > Technical Recruiter > UCA Services Inc > Ph: 773-693-0147 > Email:sonali.nimbagiri at ucaservices.com > www.ucaservices.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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