[nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references
Sean Fulton
sean at gcnpublishing.com
Sat Aug 9 12:25:43 EDT 2008
I disagree. This wasn't a former employer complaining about a
consultant's work, this was another consultant, a competitor if you
will, stating as fact something that no one can possibly double-check. I
think it's unfair, and am surprised that, on a list dedicated to helping
consultants find jobs, you folks would not be more concerned about it. I
think this is the first time I have seen someone in a public forum
accuse someone of something and not be called to provide proof of their
claims. Very puzzling.
No one knows what the job requirements were, what the client's
expectations were, or what the budget was. Did the client provide enough
time and budget to have the job done right, or did they just say, "Get
it done for next to nothing," and then when they realized the
short-sidedness of their approach, hire Ben to clean up the mess rather
than go back to the developer they low-balled and admit that they didn't
give him enough time and $$ to do the job correctly. We don't know. Ben
won't even tell the list who the client was or produce evidence of the
inferior work. So to my mind, this whole thread is quite unfair to the
developer who originally posted his availability and should be dropped.
Finally, as you read this, please keep in mind that we are a company
that employs people on this list, that's why I subscribe. I have
employed developers here in the US and in six other countries. I find
*no* geo-political differences in coding skills. We evaluate developers
based on samples, client references and their ability to follow
directions. I have had more than a few developers who are so focused on
developing "great code" that they completely ignore the project specs,
budget and time-lines. Those people don't last long, but people who
follow directions do.
Again, without knowing the original assignment that Sundar was given and
what went on between he and the client at that time, facts which I doubt
even Ben knows, we really can't draw any useful conclusions nor should
we try.
Just my $.02.
sean
Andrew Wint wrote:
> All he did was to provide transparency, now we are discussing the
> issues. Kristina gave very valid points about the 'delivery of crappy
> code' and not being able to take action because they are in another
> country.
>
> Another point is that this why we have standards of development
> practices, these standards shouldn't be compromised they can bend a
> bit but not break. Sundar needs to seek them out and adhere to them.
>
> I know it may seem harsh but it may help Sundar down the line in his
> growth. As well as protect a small struggling company, thinking they
> are saving money but falling into a trap.
>
> Ben did a good thing.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 9, 2008, at 10:50 AM, RDP wrote:
>
>> I'm sorry Donna, but I disagree.
>>
>> It's perfectly fine to express a view about someone's work.
>>
>> Of course we make errors in our code, everybody does. But you can't
>> evaluate experience without examining ones work.
>>
>> And employers DO give out this information. Especially if an
>> individual was let go because of inability.
>>
>> Finally, I'm having a problem imagining rows of unemployed PHP coders
>> down and out on skid-row in cardboard boxes, homeless, because their
>> work was criticized.
>>
>> Bye,
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Donna Marie Vincent <mailto:donnamarievincent at yahoo.com>
>> *To:* jobs at lists.nyphp.org <mailto:jobs at lists.nyphp.org>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:26 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with
>> about 5+ yrs ofexp & good client references
>>
>> It's not only unethical to publicly disparage an individual's
>> ability to perform a job, you could be subject to legal action.
>>
>> Have you ever made an error while performing your job duties?
>>
>> Even a former employer would not give out this type of
>> information. Do you want to be responsible for someone not
>> getting work, and ending up homeless on the street, because of
>> your personal opinion about their work, which may or may not be
>> valid?
>>
>> This is not the same as publicly criticizing a particular
>> product, or a company's business practice.
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On *Sat, 8/9/08, Ben Sgro /<ben at projectskyline.com
>> <mailto:ben at projectskyline.com>>/* wrote:
>>
>> From: Ben Sgro <ben at projectskyline.com
>> <mailto:ben at projectskyline.com>>
>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-jobs] Freelance Remote PHP/MySQL gig with
>> about 5+ yrs of exp & good client references
>> To:
>> Cc: jobs at lists.nyphp.org <mailto:jobs at lists.nyphp.org>
>> Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 2:17 AM
>>
>> Hey,
>>
>> I audited a site this guy built - it was full of holes - SQL injection,
>> XSS, default passwords on CMS admin accounts, etc.
>>
>> Also, the code was PHP4 w/HTML sprinkled all over it, cut and paste, no
>> functions. No layouts, templates or
>> smarty.
>> Basically, impossible and very time consuming to make updates.
>>
>> Be sure to request some source before you work with him.
>>
>> - Ben
>>
>> sundar rajan wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi
>> ,
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm a Freelance Telecommuting PHP/MySQL Programmer with about 5+ yrs
>> > of experience in building web applications .
>> >
>> >
>> > Following are the type of small / contract jobs that I take:
>> > /Creating Custom scripts
>> > Member signup with email verification & login with session
>> authentication
>> > Dynamic PDF File generation from the database information using FPDF
>> > libraries
>> > Command line processing of PHP scripts
>> > Installing CAPTCHA security code for the forms
>> > Google Maps <http://maps.google.com/> <http://maps.google.com/> API to display a location with
>>
>> > pop-up
>> info
>> > XML parsing to database
>> > CSV parsing to database
>> > RSS feeds using Carp
>> > Handling File uploads
>> > Generating statistics reports from the database values
>> > Generating Graphical reports from the database values
>> > Generating Excel download from the database
>> values
>> > Working with complex queries in Mysql console
>> > Building application with SEO friendly URLs
>> > Installing MySQL , Apache , PHP , SVN , AWStats & software apps in
>> > linux boxes
>> > /
>> > I can also take up bigger projects with proper specification documents
>> > along with the UI/HTML prototypes.
>> >
>> >
>> > Checkout my online portfolio at http://www.sundarrajan.com
>> > <http://www.sundarrajan.com/> to know more about my skill-set ,
>> > experiences , projects as
>> well as client references.
>> >
>> > As a verified premier paypal member since 2005 with over 70 seller
>> > reputation , I can accept paypal / credit card payments.
>> >
>> > Please do contact me for further details , if you have any jobs.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > With regards,
>> > Sundar
>> > Phone: (+1) 510.455.4387
>> >
>> >
>> >
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