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[nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a Developer/Partner toMake it Happen

Ben Sgro ben at projectskyline.com
Wed Aug 20 09:13:10 EDT 2008


Well said, "

any competent engineer can calculate the value of 10% of ZERO...


Cash is king.

- Ben


Kristina Anderson wrote:
> Great article.  Thanks!  
>
> As far as equity goes, I have "equity" in a project which I did last 
> winter.  Most of the time these people pay a few grand in cash, which 
> for the hours worked ends up being like $10 an hour or less, 
> and "equity", and then just expect the thing to sell itself after you 
> build it.  If they don't have the cash to pay you to build it, you KNOW 
> they don't have the cash to market it and make it profitable.  I think 
> any competent engineer can calculate the value of 10% of ZERO...
>
> NEVER AGAIN.  My landlord, and the grocery store, don't accept a 
> promise of "equity" as payment.  I learned the hard way not to go this 
> route.  Maybe 1 out of 1,000 projects might be worth doing on that 
> basis....maybe.
>
> -- Kristina
>
>
>
>   
>> I recommend this article/post:
>>
>> http://codeclimber.blogspot.com/2008/04/all-i-need-is-programmer.html
>>
>> As a member of several NYC networking groups, I can promise you that
>> ideas (both good and bad) are a dime a dozen, it's all on the
>> execution.
>>
>> Maybe you're not looking for freebies, but if you are I recommend
>> against it. You might have more luck finding a developer that will
>> lower their wages in exchange for equity, or if you're absolutely
>> desperate, outsource the work developing a prototype, sell your idea
>> to investors, and then hire programmers to execute.
>>
>> Hope that helps,
>>
>> - Brian D.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:42 PM, RDP <webmiester at gmail.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> Sounds great!!
>>>
>>> Show me the money!
>>>
>>> Have a nice day!
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: New Media Concept
>>> To: jobs at lists.nyphp.org
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:24 PM
>>> Subject: [nycphp-jobs] Got a Great Big Idea - Need a 
>>>       
> Developer/Partner toMake
>   
>>> it Happen
>>> I've got a pretty good idea that's been brewing in my head for 
>>>       
> quite a
>   
>>> while. It's ambitious, audacious, and certainly a challenge, but at 
>>>       
> the same
>   
>>> time, it's so audacious that it deserves nothing less than a real 
>>>       
> try.
>   
>>> I used to work in the media industry and came to the painful 
>>>       
> realization
>   
>>> that it's probably the only industry that does an incredibly poor 
>>>       
> job of
>   
>>> bringing in new people and new ideas. At the same time the media 
>>>       
> industry
>   
>>> hasn't changed much even as technology has given it the potential 
>>>       
> to solve
>   
>>> many of these issues. The end result is more misses than hits, and 
>>>       
> promising
>   
>>> original talent being burned out as they tire out from trying to 
>>>       
> get their
>   
>>> lucky break. I think it's time to change that.
>>>
>>> I've spoken to several tech and marketing execs who all agree that 
>>>       
> this is
>   
>>> an idea that is entirely feasible and self sustainable, and 
>>>       
> therefore worth
>   
>>> trying at the very least. I've spoken with others in the industry, 
>>>       
> including
>   
>>> other artists and creatives, who all tell me that they and everyone 
>>>       
> they
>   
>>> know would jump at the chance to partake in that concept because 
>>>       
> something
>   
>>> like this has been sorely lacking in the industry for nearly it's 
>>>       
> entire
>   
>>> history. So in the end, it could be at the very least a self 
>>>       
> sustainable and
>   
>>> unique niche site, or be even more, and disrupt and shift the entire
>>> industry.
>>>
>>> It's not a concept that can be deployed overnight, but whose 
>>>       
> features can be
>   
>>> logically implemented over time to create an ever more full featured
>>> product. The first iteration of the concept would be simple and 
>>>       
> could be up
>   
>>> and running fairly fast(in fact a simple prototype using open source
>>> resources was built and successfully tested). However I need 
>>>       
> someone who
>   
>>> will be able to take it beyond that, and keep it going as new 
>>>       
> pieces of the
>   
>>> puzzle are being implemented and thought up.
>>>
>>> I'm going to need a good LAMP developer who knows how to work with 
>>>       
> UGC and a
>   
>>> CMS, and wants to be part of building an idea that might carry them 
>>>       
> for the
>   
>>> long haul. I'm really looking for my long term technical 
>>>       
> team/partner(s) to
>   
>>> really make this idea and vision happen.
>>>
>>> So if you went through the trouble of reading all that and don't 
>>>       
> think I'm a
>   
>>> nut for daring to think big, shoot me an email with your 
>>>       
> qualifications and
>   
>>> I'll let you know more of the details.
>>>
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