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[Herb Tucker]

Mitch,
If you do a similar workshop for the PC crowd deal me in.
Cheers,
Herb

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Today's Topics:

   1. Redmine (Gary Mort)
   2. Re: Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP? (Mitch Pirtle)
   3. Re: Redmine (Mitch Pirtle)
   4. Re: Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP? (Donna Marie Vincent)
   5. Re: Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP? (Donna Marie Vincent)
   6. Re: Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP? (Mitch Pirtle)
   7. Here's a thought (Mitch Pirtle)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:59:27 -0500
From: Gary Mort <garyamort at gmail.com>
To: M Konop <mkonop at gmail.com>, "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"
	<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: [joomla] Redmine
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Hi folks, I'm giving redmine a try..... I figured I'd leave it open for
others to try out as well.  So if you want to sign up for an account on my
redmine install and play with it, feel free

http://plan.catskillcrafting.com/

Note: it's running on a subdomain of my still not up yet personal
website.....

Note2: I'm running it on it on Media Temple just because their easy and low
thought:

http://www.mediatemple.net/go/order/?refdom=catskillcrafting.com
*
*
*I use their GS account with the Ruby container add on. I installed it using
the 64MB free container.....but had it crash a few times as it ran out of
memory, so I upgraded to the 128MB 20/month container.*
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:01:39 -0500
From: Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: Re: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
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That's why I always setup svn on a remote, BACKED UP server. Has
nothing to do with operating system though :-)

For the Mac, I setup MobileMe for a previous job, and liked it enough
to keep it. You got TimeMachine on a local backup drive, iDisk for
important stuff (stored on the internet) and source code repositories
via svn/git on external servers. Now that's cooking!

-- Mitch


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:06:39 -0500
From: Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: Re: [joomla] Redmine
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On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Gary Mort <garyamort at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi folks, I'm giving redmine a try..... I figured I'd leave it open for
> others to try out as well. ?So if you want to sign up for an account on my
> redmine install and play with it, feel free
> http://plan.catskillcrafting.com/
> Note: it's running on a subdomain of my still not up yet personal
> website.....
> Note2: I'm running it on it on Media Temple just because their easy and
low
> thought:
> http://www.mediatemple.net/go/order/?refdom=catskillcrafting.com
> I use their GS account with the Ruby container add on. I installed it
using
> the 64MB free container.....but had it crash a few times as it ran out of
> memory, so I upgraded to the 128MB 20/month container.

You can also run your own Redmine/RoR server at Heroku for free:

* http://heroku.com/

And if that is too much work for you, you got two companies that host
your redmine for you, with additional goodies too:

* https://pmphq.com/
* http://plan.io/en/

Not affiliated with any of the above, just happy to see people FINALLY
attempting to actually manage projects and code :-)

-- Mitch


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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:17:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Cc: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: Re: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
Message-ID: <853210.5403.qm at web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Maybe you don't need to worry but I have dozens of sites to manage. Your
computer is not indestructible and it can also get stolen. 

Where do you put these backups?  On your computer or on a backup drive?
Every backup drive I've had has failed within months, so I don't count on
them  either.  

I cannot afford to lose an entire day's work so I keep my remote webserver
and local synchronized while I'm working. 


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:02 AM, ozzie sutcliffe <oz.sutcliffe at gmail.com>
wrote:

hard drives are OS independent when it comes to failure..
oz

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Helv?cio da Silva
<helvecio.rj at gmail.com> wrote:
I've never had any of my Macs die on me, but I'm not waiting for this to
happen.

That's when all those back up sessions come in handy! ;-)

And I've just found a component called JoomlaPack which is quite easy to
handle out of the box and backup a Joomla site.

So, why worry?

2010/2/15 Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com>

Yeah, working locally is great, until something happens to your computer
and you lose everything.


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 15, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Helv?cio da Silva
<helvecio.rj at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all!

I've been trying out XAMPP in my Mac and it works like a charm! Easy
installation, easy GUI (could be improved).

Once started, it doesn't matter wether I close or not my browser, it's
still
there.

Database and Joomla installations are a breeze. And I've done those more
than once just to make sure.

I even realized how EASY it is to work on a Joomla site locally then
uploading it to a remote server!! ;-D


2010/1/14 Joomla Training <info at joomlatraining.com>

Yes - unfortunately. If you check the support forum, its had the full-on
spambot treatment.

Apparently the developer got sidetracked by another project, Symfony.

Steve

I'm a more hands-on kinda guy, but I can't get enough of macports. I
get everything, even the "hard stuff" that most folks never bother
trying on a Mac. I'd also like to point out to my good friend Gary
Mort that macports has...MongoDB. :-)

-- Mitch, ducking under his desk
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:17:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Cc: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: Re: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
Message-ID: <853210.5403.qm at web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Maybe you don't need to worry but I have dozens of sites to manage. Your
computer is not indestructible and it can also get stolen. 

Where do you put these backups?  On your computer or on a backup drive?
Every backup drive I've had has failed within months, so I don't count on
them  either.  

I cannot afford to lose an entire day's work so I keep my remote webserver
and local synchronized while I'm working. 


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:02 AM, ozzie sutcliffe <oz.sutcliffe at gmail.com>
wrote:

hard drives are OS independent when it comes to failure..
oz

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Helv?cio da Silva
<helvecio.rj at gmail.com> wrote:
I've never had any of my Macs die on me, but I'm not waiting for this to
happen.

That's when all those back up sessions come in handy! ;-)

And I've just found a component called JoomlaPack which is quite easy to
handle out of the box and backup a Joomla site.

So, why worry?

2010/2/15 Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com>

Yeah, working locally is great, until something happens to your computer
and you lose everything.


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 15, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Helv?cio da Silva
<helvecio.rj at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all!

I've been trying out XAMPP in my Mac and it works like a charm! Easy
installation, easy GUI (could be improved).

Once started, it doesn't matter wether I close or not my browser, it's
still
there.

Database and Joomla installations are a breeze. And I've done those more
than once just to make sure.

I even realized how EASY it is to work on a Joomla site locally then
uploading it to a remote server!! ;-D


2010/1/14 Joomla Training <info at joomlatraining.com>

Yes - unfortunately. If you check the support forum, its had the full-on
spambot treatment.

Apparently the developer got sidetracked by another project, Symfony.

Steve

I'm a more hands-on kinda guy, but I can't get enough of macports. I
get everything, even the "hard stuff" that most folks never bother
trying on a Mac. I'd also like to point out to my good friend Gary
Mort that macports has...MongoDB. :-)

-- Mitch, ducking under his desk
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--
Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com
http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com


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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:32:55 -0500
From: Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: Re: [joomla] Server2Go, GONE! How about XAMMP?
Message-ID:
	<330532b61002151032p27f2d07bv98dd7b17f43d9625 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

This is actually solid development practice, something I've been doing
for years, and it's the way we managed development of Joomla (and
Mambo before it). If Git is too modern for you and you just gotta
stick with subversion, you can try one of these:

* http://beanstalkapp.com/
* http://unfuddle.com/

If you develop websites for a living and don't use some sort of source
code revision control, you're making a HUGE mistake.

I setup subversion to run on a server - usually at ServerBeach - and
also provision that server with automated backups. I then checkout my
project on the local machine (laptop) where I do development. Whenever
I finish something, I simply commit, and that sends the new code up to
the subversion repository on the server, which in turn gets backed up.
I have a local external drive that I use for TimeMachine, more than
anything as a precaution in case my laptop gets too much coffee or
falls down the stairs late at night.

In the end, the likelihood of the following all happening at the exact
same time is very close to absolute zero:

* external drive fail
* laptop fail
* server fail
* datacenter backup systems fail

And after some thought, if all these things failed at the same time
then I probably got bigger problems than some stupid website.

-- Mitch


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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:35:05 -0500
From: Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: [joomla] Here's a thought
Message-ID:
	<330532b61002151035n6018cd89i33d1f9249d2a865 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

For all the mac-users out there, would you be interested in me giving
a session on setting up a MacBookPro for web development? It would
cover using macports, and setting up PHP, apache, MySQL and svn/git.
Also would include how to manage your development workflow with remote
servers and whatnot.

I could probably host it at an Apple Store.

If there's any interest I'll take a look into it.

-- Mitch


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