From rytech123 at gmail.com Wed Aug 3 09:49:59 2011 From: rytech123 at gmail.com (Laura Gordon) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 09:49:59 -0400 Subject: [joomla] new presenters for joomladaynyc Message-ID: Hi all, I hope that you are having a great summer. We are well underway with our preparations for JoomladayNYC.com, if you haven't signed up yet...you can still do so. * If you sign up by 9/1 you will get 15% off the price. Also we have a discounted 2 day rate, which is also only available until 9/1.* *New presenters:* We are thrilled to have presenters from all over the world this year...here are some of the newest ones... Michel Van Agtmaal: OpenSourceSupportDesk Will be coming from the Netherlands to present on how to select an extension. We are thrilled to have him participate this year. 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An alternative to YooTheme's dropdown menu is a module called Maxi Menu CK that will take your menu and do all kinds of dropdown tricks. ________________________________ From: Stewart Newfeld To: 'NYPHP SIG: Joomla' Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 11:44 AM Subject: [joomla] Need Yootheme Template Alternative Hi All, ? After much work, I finally found a ?tooltip plugin (QLUE Tooltips Pro) ?that works in a module.? But it is based on mootools and conflicts with the jQuery in the Yootheme templates that I have been using on all my sites. ? The Yootheme template menus are exceptionally good for the site I am working on because they easily implement a multi-column dropdown menu that lets me accommodate almost 50 product categories in one dropdown. ? Can someone suggest another template vender they like with dense multi-column dropdown menus, that is not based on jQuery?? The QLUE Tooltip is the only one I could find that is a system plug-in and works in a module. ? Thanks. ? Stewart Newfeld Zebra Systems, Inc. Computer Network & Website Support 131 Joralemon Street, Apt. 52 Brooklyn, NY 11201 www.zebrasystems.com 212.675.8414 _______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidalanroth at gmail.com Fri Aug 5 06:47:55 2011 From: davidalanroth at gmail.com (David Roth) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 06:47:55 -0400 Subject: [joomla] SEO/SEF - Do I need an extension to name my own URL for Joomla 1.5.23? Message-ID: It's been a while since I've had to do this with Joomla. The friendly URLs are fine and working in Joomla 1.5.23, but I have a need to name my own URL for a few pages. Such as domain.com/whitepaper instead of whatever friendly URL Joomla would assign to it. In an early version of Joomla, before 1.5, I think I had to install an extension to do this. And if I remember correctly, as Administrator I was able to put in the desired URL path of my own. I've looked around and can't find the discussion on this I need. I know about renaming htaccess.txt to .htaccess, but I don't believe before I actually edited the .htaccess file to put in my own URL name. I'm fuzzy on what htaccess.txt actually does now, because I still had it off and with the SEO Friendly URL set to 'yes' it was coming up with URLs based on the title of the articles all it's own. Thanks! David Roth From helvecio.rj at gmail.com Fri Aug 5 08:07:39 2011 From: helvecio.rj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Helv=C3=A9cio_da_Silva?=) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 09:07:39 -0300 Subject: [joomla] SEO/SEF - Do I need an extension to name my own URL for Joomla 1.5.23? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Isn't it enough to rename the aliases of your sections/categories/articles? 2011/8/5 David Roth > It's been a while since I've had to do this with Joomla. The friendly URLs > are fine and working in Joomla 1.5.23, but I have a need to name my own URL > for a few pages. Such as domain.com/whitepaper instead of whatever > friendly URL Joomla would assign to it. > > In an early version of Joomla, before 1.5, I think I had to install an > extension to do this. And if I remember correctly, as Administrator I was > able to put in the desired URL path of my own. > > I've looked around and can't find the discussion on this I need. I know > about renaming htaccess.txt to .htaccess, but I don't believe before I > actually edited the .htaccess file to put in my own URL name. > > I'm fuzzy on what htaccess.txt actually does now, because I still had it > off and with the SEO Friendly URL set to 'yes' it was coming up with URLs > based on the title of the articles all it's own. Thanks! > > David Roth > > ______________________________**_________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/**mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_**participation.php > -- Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidalanroth at gmail.com Fri Aug 5 10:36:03 2011 From: davidalanroth at gmail.com (David Roth) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:36:03 -0400 Subject: [joomla] SEO/SEF - Do I need an extension to name my own URL for Joomla 1.5.23? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I wasn't sure if that can be done for the links to the RSFORM Pro, which is mostly what I need this for. I was able to fill in an alias and it worked which is great. However, the alias gets translated to all lower case. Any suggestions to be able to keep the alias case sensitive? Thanks! David Roth On Aug 5, 2011, at 8:07 AM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote: > Isn't it enough to rename the aliases of your sections/categories/ > articles? > > 2011/8/5 David Roth > It's been a while since I've had to do this with Joomla. The > friendly URLs are fine and working in Joomla 1.5.23, but I have a > need to name my own URL for a few pages. Such as domain.com/ > whitepaper instead of whatever friendly URL Joomla would assign to it. > > In an early version of Joomla, before 1.5, I think I had to install > an extension to do this. And if I remember correctly, as > Administrator I was able to put in the desired URL path of my own. > > I've looked around and can't find the discussion on this I need. I > know about renaming htaccess.txt to .htaccess, but I don't believe > before I actually edited the .htaccess file to put in my own URL name. > > I'm fuzzy on what htaccess.txt actually does now, because I still > had it off and with the SEO Friendly URL set to 'yes' it was coming > up with URLs based on the title of the articles all it's own. Thanks! > > David Roth > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > -- > Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva > Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com > http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com Fri Aug 5 10:55:34 2011 From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 07:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] SEO/SEF - Do I need an extension to name my own URL for Joomla 1.5.23? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1312556134.36055.YahooMailNeo@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> sh404sef has an option that allows for both upper and lowercase alias in the url. ________________________________ From: David Roth To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [joomla] SEO/SEF - Do I need an extension to name my own URL for Joomla 1.5.23? I wasn't sure if that can be done for the links to the RSFORM Pro, which is mostly what I need this for. I was able to fill in an alias and it worked which is great. However, the alias gets translated to all lower case. Any suggestions to be able to keep the alias case sensitive? Thanks! David Roth On Aug 5, 2011, at 8:07 AM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote: Isn't it enough to rename the aliases of your sections/categories/articles? > > >2011/8/5 David Roth > >It's been a while since I've had to do this with Joomla. The friendly URLs are fine and working in Joomla 1.5.23, but I have a need to name my own URL for a few pages. Such as domain.com/whitepaper instead of whatever friendly URL Joomla would assign to it. >> >>In an early version of Joomla, before 1.5, I think I had to install an extension to do this. And if I remember correctly, as Administrator I was able to put in the desired URL path of my own. >> >>I've looked around and can't find the discussion on this I need. I know about renaming htaccess.txt to .htaccess, but I don't believe before I actually edited the .htaccess file to put in my own URL name. >> >>I'm fuzzy on what htaccess.txt actually does now, because I still had it off and with the SEO Friendly URL set to 'yes' it was coming up with URLs based on the title of the articles all it's own. Thanks! >> >>David Roth >> >>_______________________________________________ >>New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >>http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla >> >>NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >>Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> > > >-- >Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva >Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com >http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com > >_______________________________________________ >New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > >NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >http://www.nyphpcon.com > >Show Your Participation in New York PHP >http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php _______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From scott at wolpow.com Fri Aug 5 10:56:28 2011 From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow) Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:56:28 -0400 Subject: [joomla] SEO/SEF - Do I need an extension to name my own URL for Joomla 1.5.23? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E3C049C.5000608@wolpow.com> You do not need case for SEO and you should only have lowercase in urls. Scott Wolpow On 8/5/2011 10:36 AM, David Roth wrote: > I wasn't sure if that can be done for the links to the RSFORM Pro, > which is mostly what I need this for. > > I was able to fill in an alias and it worked which is great. However, > the alias gets translated to all lower case. > > Any suggestions to be able to keep the alias case sensitive? Thanks! > > David Roth > > On Aug 5, 2011, at 8:07 AM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote: > >> Isn't it enough to rename the aliases of your >> sections/categories/articles? >> >> 2011/8/5 David Roth > > >> >> It's been a while since I've had to do this with Joomla. The >> friendly URLs are fine and working in Joomla 1.5.23, but I have a >> need to name my own URL for a few pages. Such as >> domain.com/whitepaper instead of >> whatever friendly URL Joomla would assign to it. >> >> In an early version of Joomla, before 1.5, I think I had to >> install an extension to do this. And if I remember correctly, as >> Administrator I was able to put in the desired URL path of my own. >> >> I've looked around and can't find the discussion on this I need. >> I know about renaming htaccess.txt to .htaccess, but I don't >> believe before I actually edited the .htaccess file to put in my >> own URL name. >> >> I'm fuzzy on what htaccess.txt actually does now, because I still >> had it off and with the SEO Friendly URL set to 'yes' it was >> coming up with URLs based on the title of the articles all it's >> own. Thanks! >> >> David Roth >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva >> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com >> >> http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbritton at gmail.com Sat Aug 6 22:30:55 2011 From: sbritton at gmail.com (Stephen Britton) Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 22:30:55 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Reminder: Joomla NYC User Group to meet on Thursday Message-ID: Hi Gang, Hope everyone is enjoying the weekend. I want to remind everyone that at 6:30 PM on Thursday, August 11th, the monthly Joomla NYC User Group meeting will take place at our new meeting room at Lincoln Center, 146 West 65th Street. (For detailed directions, visit www.joomlanyc.org ) Scott Wolpow will discuss wire frames and the best methods to layout websites before you start building. I will present two Joomla templates - Construct and LessJoomla - that work with every screen from smart phones to jumbo television LCDs. I also have copies of Stephen Burge's new book, Joomla and Barry North's Joomla 1.6: A User's Guide. We also need to remind everyone that Joomla Day Weekend is coming up soon - October 22 and 23. To take advantage of the $15 per ticket discount, you must register before Sept. 1. So if you haven't registered yet, think about doing it soon. For information and registration, visit www.joomladaynyc.com And if you have registered, you should visit the website because there is recently updated information about the tracks and speakers. On other Joomla matters, I recently stumbled across an article, "How WordPress Beat Joomla" on Weblog Tools Collection, a website devoted to WordPress. The author, an Australian website designer, doesn't trash Joomla, but he mentions how WordPress was able to make quick changes that helped boost its popularity. I don't completely agree with him, especially the part where bases CMS popularity on Google searches, but he brings up some interesting points. http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2011/08/05/how-wordpress-beat-joomla/ Hope to see everyone on Thursday. All best, Steve -- Stephen Britton Technology Consultant sbritton at gmail.com ph: 914-661-0040 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com Sat Aug 6 23:28:46 2011 From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent) Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 20:28:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] Reminder: Joomla NYC User Group to meet on Thursday In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1312687726.20945.YahooMailNeo@web35602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In regard to "How WordPress Beat Joomla" -- Joomla is becoming a PROBLEM.? I've been working a lot with 1.6 and 1.7 and am finding it VERY buggy. And as the author says, why doesn't Joomla put it in your face when your version is out of date?? Even with the new "one-click" upgrade, you have to click the "check for updates" thing manually before you know if Joomla is out of date. ________________________________ From: Stephen Britton To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 10:30 PM Subject: [joomla] Reminder: Joomla NYC User Group to meet on Thursday Hi Gang, Hope everyone is enjoying the weekend.? I want to remind everyone that at 6:30 PM on Thursday, August 11th, the monthly Joomla NYC User Group meeting will take place at our new meeting room at Lincoln Center, 146 West 65th Street. (For detailed directions, visit www.joomlanyc.org ) Scott Wolpow will discuss wire frames and the best methods to layout websites before you start building. I will present two Joomla templates - Construct and LessJoomla - that work with every screen from smart phones to jumbo television LCDs. ? I also have copies of Stephen Burge's new book, Joomla and Barry North's Joomla 1.6: A User's Guide. We also need to remind everyone that Joomla Day Weekend is coming up soon - October 22 and 23. To take advantage of the $15 per ticket discount, you must register before Sept. 1. So if you haven't registered yet, think about doing it soon. For information and registration, visit www.joomladaynyc.com? And if you have registered, you should visit the website because there is recently updated information about the tracks and speakers. On other Joomla matters, I recently stumbled across an article, "How WordPress Beat Joomla" on Weblog Tools Collection, a website devoted to WordPress. The author, an Australian website designer, doesn't trash Joomla, but he mentions how WordPress was able to make quick changes that helped boost its popularity.? I don't completely agree with him, especially the part where bases CMS popularity on Google searches, but he brings up some interesting points.? ?http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2011/08/05/how-wordpress-beat-joomla/?? Hope to see everyone on Thursday. All best, Steve -- Stephen Britton Technology Consultant sbritton at gmail.com ph: 914-661-0040 _______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidalanroth at gmail.com Sun Aug 7 00:56:47 2011 From: davidalanroth at gmail.com (David Roth) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 00:56:47 -0400 Subject: [joomla] "check for updates" (Re: Reminder: Joomla NYC User Group to meet on Thursday) In-Reply-To: <1312687726.20945.YahooMailNeo@web35602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1312687726.20945.YahooMailNeo@web35602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Donna has a very good point. Maybe this would work, when you login as Admin it does a check for upgrade. If it's available, next to the version, which could be changed to "Current version: 1.x.x New version: 1.xy". The "New version" could be linked to either the one-click upgrade you mentioned or directly where to download it from joomla.org. The "New version" would only appear if there was indeed a newer stable version available over the current one installed. Highlighted with a different color. This could be configured as Admin for those who want to know about even beta versions. Also, this would be a good area to alert about new patches especially for security updates. For those who might always be logged in as Admin, the script could check every 24 hours if a new upgrade is available. David Roth On Aug 6, 2011, at 11:28 PM, Donna Marie Vincent wrote: > In regard to "How WordPress Beat Joomla" -- Joomla is becoming a > PROBLEM. I've been working a lot with 1.6 and 1.7 and am finding it > VERY buggy. > > And as the author says, why doesn't Joomla put it in your face when > your version is out of date? Even with the new "one-click" upgrade, > you have to click the "check for updates" thing manually before you > know if Joomla is out of date. > > > From: Stephen Britton > To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla > Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 10:30 PM > Subject: [joomla] Reminder: Joomla NYC User Group to meet on Thursday From scott at wolpow.com Sun Aug 7 09:38:49 2011 From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow) Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 09:38:49 -0400 Subject: [joomla] WP V Joomla In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E3E9569.3080304@wolpow.com> One reason for WP rise is with people with zero budget. It is very easy to use, but also very limited in scope and abilities. Joomla is beginning to become a frustration. But if you have complaints, then go and fix them. Scott Wolpow On 8/6/2011 10:30 PM, Stephen Britton wrote: > Hi Gang, > > Hope everyone is enjoying the weekend. > > I want to remind everyone that at 6:30 PM on Thursday, August 11th, > the monthly Joomla NYC User Group meeting will take place at our new > meeting room at Lincoln Center, 146 West 65th Street. (For detailed > directions, visit www.joomlanyc.org ) > > Scott Wolpow will discuss wire frames and the best methods to layout > websites before you start building. I will present two Joomla > templates - Construct and LessJoomla - that work with every screen > from smart phones to jumbo television LCDs. > I also have copies of Stephen Burge's new book, Joomla and > Barry North's Joomla 1.6: A User's Guide. > > We also need to remind everyone that Joomla Day Weekend is coming up > soon - October 22 and 23. To take advantage of the $15 per ticket > discount, you must register before Sept. 1. So if you haven't > registered yet, think about doing it soon. For information and > registration, visit www.joomladaynyc.com > > And if you have registered, you should visit the website because there > is recently updated information about the tracks and speakers. > > On other Joomla matters, I recently stumbled across an article, "How > WordPress Beat Joomla" on Weblog Tools Collection, a website devoted > to WordPress. The author, an Australian website designer, doesn't > trash Joomla, but he mentions how WordPress was able to make quick > changes that helped boost its popularity. > > I don't completely agree with him, especially the part where bases CMS > popularity on Google searches, but he brings up some interesting points. > http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2011/08/05/how-wordpress-beat-joomla/ > > > Hope to see everyone on Thursday. > > All best, > > Steve > > -- > Stephen Britton > Technology Consultant > sbritton at gmail.com > ph: 914-661-0040 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Joomla is beginning to become a frustration. But if you have complaints, then go and fix them. Scott Wolpow On 8/6/2011 10:30 PM, Stephen Britton wrote: Hi Gang, > > >Hope everyone is enjoying the weekend.? > > >I want to remind everyone that at 6:30 PM on Thursday, August 11th, the monthly Joomla NYC User Group meeting will take place at our new meeting room at Lincoln Center, 146 West 65th Street. (For detailed directions, visit www.joomlanyc.org ) > > >Scott Wolpow will discuss wire frames and the best methods to layout websites before you start building. I will present two Joomla templates - Construct and LessJoomla - that work with every screen from smart phones to jumbo television LCDs. >? >I also have copies of Stephen Burge's new book, Joomla and Barry North's Joomla 1.6: A User's Guide. > > >We also need to remind everyone that Joomla Day Weekend is coming up soon - October 22 and 23. To take advantage of the $15 per ticket discount, you must register before Sept. 1. So if you haven't registered yet, think about doing it soon. For information and registration, visit www.joomladaynyc.com? > > >And if you have registered, you should visit the website because there is recently updated information about the tracks and speakers. > > >On other Joomla matters, I recently stumbled across an article, "How WordPress Beat Joomla" on Weblog Tools Collection, a website devoted to WordPress. The author, an Australian website designer, doesn't trash Joomla, but he mentions how WordPress was able to make quick changes that helped boost its popularity.? > > >I don't completely agree with him, especially the part where bases CMS popularity on Google searches, but he brings up some interesting points.? >?http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2011/08/05/how-wordpress-beat-joomla/?? > > >Hope to see everyone on Thursday. > > >All best, > > >Steve > >-- >Stephen Britton >Technology Consultant >sbritton at gmail.com >ph: 914-661-0040 > > > > > >_______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php _______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! 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Visit, http://www.joomla.org/about-joomla/contribute-to-joomla.html and see what you can do to make it better. -- Laura On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Donna Marie Vincent < donnamarievincent at yahoo.com> wrote: > It makes no sense that Joomla is now extremely buggy when we had a stable > 1.5. The core team used to be all volunteers. Now they are being paid and > Joomla has not gotten much better and in some ways worse. I think it's time > for another fork. There were many good 3rd party admin tools that could > have been incorporated and they weren't. > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Scott Wolpow > *To:* joomla at lists.nyphp.org > *Sent:* Sunday, August 7, 2011 9:38 AM > *Subject:* [joomla] WP V Joomla > > One reason for WP rise is with people with zero budget. > It is very easy to use, but also very limited in scope and abilities. > Joomla is beginning to become a frustration. > But if you have complaints, then go and fix them. > Scott Wolpow > > > On 8/6/2011 10:30 PM, Stephen Britton wrote: > > Hi Gang, > > Hope everyone is enjoying the weekend. > > I want to remind everyone that at 6:30 PM on Thursday, August 11th, the > monthly Joomla NYC User Group meeting will take place at our new meeting > room at Lincoln Center, 146 West 65th Street. (For detailed directions, > visit www.joomlanyc.org ) > > Scott Wolpow will discuss wire frames and the best methods to layout > websites before you start building. I will present two Joomla templates - > Construct and LessJoomla - that work with every screen from smart phones to > jumbo television LCDs. > > I also have copies of Stephen Burge's new book, Joomla and > Barry North's Joomla 1.6: A User's Guide. > > We also need to remind everyone that Joomla Day Weekend is coming up soon > - October 22 and 23. To take advantage of the $15 per ticket discount, you > must register before Sept. 1. So if you haven't registered yet, think about > doing it soon. For information and registration, visit > www.joomladaynyc.com > > And if you have registered, you should visit the website because there is > recently updated information about the tracks and speakers. > > On other Joomla matters, I recently stumbled across an article, "How > WordPress Beat Joomla" on Weblog Tools Collection, a website devoted to > WordPress. The author, an Australian website designer, doesn't trash Joomla, > but he mentions how WordPress was able to make quick changes that helped > boost its popularity. > > I don't completely agree with him, especially the part where bases CMS > popularity on Google searches, but he brings up some interesting points. > > http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2011/08/05/how-wordpress-beat-joomla/ > > > Hope to see everyone on Thursday. > > All best, > > Steve > > -- > Stephen Britton > Technology Consultant > sbritton at gmail.com > ph: 914-661-0040 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing Listhttp://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Onlinehttp://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHPhttp://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -- I have a new email address: rytech123 at gmail.com Member of www.JoomlaNYC.org Trainer for www.JoomlaTraining.com Sponsor for www.JoomlaDayNYC.com Come to JoomlaDayNYC.com - 2011 - October 22 & October 23 www.RytechSites.com Dynamic Websites for your company! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chris at theendrecords.com Sun Aug 7 10:03:01 2011 From: chris at theendrecords.com (Chris French) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 10:03:01 -0400 Subject: [joomla] WP V Joomla In-Reply-To: References: <4E3E9569.3080304@wolpow.com> <1312725019.41716.YahooMailNeo@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I personally feel a lot of what common users thing are features they can't live without from wordpress we could add to joomla with a new more user friendly admin template. On Aug 7, 2011 9:59 AM, "Laura Gordon" wrote: > I have to agree on Scott with this one...if you see bugs, or room for > improvement, contact the joomla.org team and make a difference. > > Visit, http://www.joomla.org/about-joomla/contribute-to-joomla.html and see > what you can do to make it better. > > > -- Laura > > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Donna Marie Vincent < > donnamarievincent at yahoo.com> wrote: > >> It makes no sense that Joomla is now extremely buggy when we had a stable >> 1.5. The core team used to be all volunteers. Now they are being paid and >> Joomla has not gotten much better and in some ways worse. I think it's time >> for another fork. There were many good 3rd party admin tools that could >> have been incorporated and they weren't. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Scott Wolpow >> *To:* joomla at lists.nyphp.org >> *Sent:* Sunday, August 7, 2011 9:38 AM >> *Subject:* [joomla] WP V Joomla >> >> One reason for WP rise is with people with zero budget. >> It is very easy to use, but also very limited in scope and abilities. >> Joomla is beginning to become a frustration. >> But if you have complaints, then go and fix them. >> Scott Wolpow >> >> >> On 8/6/2011 10:30 PM, Stephen Britton wrote: >> >> Hi Gang, >> >> Hope everyone is enjoying the weekend. >> >> I want to remind everyone that at 6:30 PM on Thursday, August 11th, the >> monthly Joomla NYC User Group meeting will take place at our new meeting >> room at Lincoln Center, 146 West 65th Street. (For detailed directions, >> visit www.joomlanyc.org ) >> >> Scott Wolpow will discuss wire frames and the best methods to layout >> websites before you start building. I will present two Joomla templates - >> Construct and LessJoomla - that work with every screen from smart phones to >> jumbo television LCDs. >> >> I also have copies of Stephen Burge's new book, Joomla and >> Barry North's Joomla 1.6: A User's Guide. >> >> We also need to remind everyone that Joomla Day Weekend is coming up soon >> - October 22 and 23. To take advantage of the $15 per ticket discount, you >> must register before Sept. 1. So if you haven't registered yet, think about >> doing it soon. For information and registration, visit >> www.joomladaynyc.com >> >> And if you have registered, you should visit the website because there is >> recently updated information about the tracks and speakers. >> >> On other Joomla matters, I recently stumbled across an article, "How >> WordPress Beat Joomla" on Weblog Tools Collection, a website devoted to >> WordPress. The author, an Australian website designer, doesn't trash Joomla, >> but he mentions how WordPress was able to make quick changes that helped >> boost its popularity. >> >> I don't completely agree with him, especially the part where bases CMS >> popularity on Google searches, but he brings up some interesting points. >> >> http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2011/08/05/how-wordpress-beat-joomla/ >> >> >> Hope to see everyone on Thursday. >> >> All best, >> >> Steve >> >> -- >> Stephen Britton >> Technology Consultant >> sbritton at gmail.com >> ph: 914-661-0040 >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing Listhttp:// lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Onlinehttp://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHPhttp:// www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> > > > > -- > I have a new email address: rytech123 at gmail.com > > Member of www.JoomlaNYC.org > Trainer for www.JoomlaTraining.com > Sponsor for www.JoomlaDayNYC.com > > Come to JoomlaDayNYC.com - 2011 - October 22 & October 23 > > www.RytechSites.com > Dynamic Websites for your company! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From info at ostraining.com Sun Aug 7 10:23:16 2011 From: info at ostraining.com (OSTraining) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 10:23:16 -0400 Subject: [joomla] WP V Joomla In-Reply-To: <4E3E9569.3080304@wolpow.com> References: <4E3E9569.3080304@wolpow.com> Message-ID: Donna Please, do a bit of research before slinging mud: The core team hasn't been paid in almost a year now. They are all volunteers. At WordPress, they are almost all paid and paid one by one person. They run an Apple model, where according to a WP core developer I talked to last month, they have three dictators to make all final decisions. The good thing about that for community members is that they largely don't have to worry about the core code at all. Joomla (and increasingly Drupal) run more of the Android model where things are more fragmented and if you do want to see improvements, you have to get involved and push. There's no free ride from a big company that makes all the decisions for us. Steve On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Scott Wolpow wrote: > One reason for WP rise is with people with zero budget. > It is very easy to use, but also very limited in scope and abilities. > Joomla is beginning to become a frustration. > But if you have complaints, then go and fix them. > Scott Wolpow > > > On 8/6/2011 10:30 PM, Stephen Britton wrote: > > Hi Gang, > > Hope everyone is enjoying the weekend. > > I want to remind everyone that at 6:30 PM on Thursday, August 11th, the > monthly Joomla NYC User Group meeting will take place at our new meeting > room at Lincoln Center, 146 West 65th Street. (For detailed directions, > visit www.joomlanyc.org ) > > Scott Wolpow will discuss wire frames and the best methods to layout > websites before you start building. I will present two Joomla templates - > Construct and LessJoomla - that work with every screen from smart phones to > jumbo television LCDs. > > I also have copies of Stephen Burge's new book, Joomla and > Barry North's Joomla 1.6: A User's Guide. > > We also need to remind everyone that Joomla Day Weekend is coming up soon > - October 22 and 23. To take advantage of the $15 per ticket discount, you > must register before Sept. 1. So if you haven't registered yet, think about > doing it soon. For information and registration, visit > www.joomladaynyc.com > > And if you have registered, you should visit the website because there is > recently updated information about the tracks and speakers. > > On other Joomla matters, I recently stumbled across an article, "How > WordPress Beat Joomla" on Weblog Tools Collection, a website devoted to > WordPress. The author, an Australian website designer, doesn't trash Joomla, > but he mentions how WordPress was able to make quick changes that helped > boost its popularity. > > I don't completely agree with him, especially the part where bases CMS > popularity on Google searches, but he brings up some interesting points. > > http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2011/08/05/how-wordpress-beat-joomla/ > > > Hope to see everyone on Thursday. > > All best, > > Steve > > -- > Stephen Britton > Technology Consultant > sbritton at gmail.com > ph: 914-661-0040 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing Listhttp://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Onlinehttp://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHPhttp://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -- Steve Burge CEO | Open Source Training steve at ostraining.com | (c) 678.516.4410 | (o) 678.223-3351 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com Sun Aug 7 10:37:43 2011 From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 07:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] WP V Joomla In-Reply-To: References: <4E3E9569.3080304@wolpow.com> <1312725019.41716.YahooMailNeo@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1312727863.88862.YahooMailNeo@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Laura, Saying "fix it yourself" is not a productive response, since there are so many bugs.? It's shameful that they released these versions as stable.? I might be able to debug a few things here and there, which I did yesterday when I posted a solution to something that several people were asking about and there was no answer for, but I cannot work full-time to debug everything.?? The core developers are now being paid and OSM is capable of raising funds.? I've been a big fan of Joomla since the beginning, but OSM is not keeping Joomla up with the competition.? I'm not in the inner circle so I don't know what the issues are, but Joomla is in big trouble. Donna ________________________________ From: Laura Gordon To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [joomla] WP V Joomla I have to agree on Scott with this one...if you see bugs, or room for improvement, contact the joomla.org team and make a difference.? Visit, http://www.joomla.org/about-joomla/contribute-to-joomla.html and see what you can do to make it better. -- Laura On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Donna Marie Vincent wrote: It makes no sense that Joomla is now extremely buggy when we had a stable 1.5.? The core team used to be all volunteers.? Now they are being paid and Joomla has not gotten much better and in some ways worse.? I think it's time for another fork.? There were many good 3rd party admin tools that could have been incorporated and they weren't. > > > > > >________________________________ > From: Scott Wolpow >To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org >Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 9:38 AM >Subject: [joomla] WP V Joomla > > > >One reason for WP rise is with people with zero budget. >It is very easy to use, but also very limited in scope and abilities. >Joomla is beginning to become a frustration. >But if you have complaints, then go and fix them. >Scott Wolpow > > >On 8/6/2011 10:30 PM, Stephen Britton wrote: >Hi Gang, >> >> >>Hope everyone is enjoying the weekend.? >> >> >>I want to remind everyone that at 6:30 PM on Thursday, August 11th, the monthly Joomla NYC User Group meeting will take place at our new meeting room at Lincoln Center, 146 West 65th Street. (For detailed directions, visit www.joomlanyc.org ) >> >> >>Scott Wolpow will discuss wire frames and the best methods to layout websites before you start building. I will present two Joomla templates - Construct and LessJoomla - that work with every screen from smart phones to jumbo television LCDs. >>? >>I also have copies of Stephen Burge's new book, Joomla and Barry North's Joomla 1.6: A User's Guide. >> >> >>We also need to remind everyone that Joomla Day Weekend is coming up soon - October 22 and 23. To take advantage of the $15 per ticket discount, you must register before Sept. 1. So if you haven't registered yet, think about doing it soon. For information and registration, visit www.joomladaynyc.com? >> >> >>And if you have registered, you should visit the website because there is recently updated information about the tracks and speakers. >> >> >>On other Joomla matters, I recently stumbled across an article, "How WordPress Beat Joomla" on Weblog Tools Collection, a website devoted to WordPress. The author, an Australian website designer, doesn't trash Joomla, but he mentions how WordPress was able to make quick changes that helped boost its popularity.? >> >> >>I don't completely agree with him, especially the part where bases CMS popularity on Google searches, but he brings up some interesting points.? >>?http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2011/08/05/how-wordpress-beat-joomla/?? >> >> >>Hope to see everyone on Thursday. >> >> >>All best, >> >> >>Steve >> >>-- >>Stephen Britton >>Technology Consultant >>sbritton at gmail.com >>ph: 914-661-0040 >> >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >_______________________________________________ >New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > >NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >http://www.nyphpcon.com > >Show Your Participation in New York PHP >http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > >_______________________________________________ >New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > >NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >http://www.nyphpcon.com > >Show Your Participation in New York PHP >http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -- I have a new email address: rytech123 at gmail.com Member of www.JoomlaNYC.org Trainer for www.JoomlaTraining.com Sponsor for www.JoomlaDayNYC.com Come to JoomlaDayNYC.com - 2011 - October 22 & October 23 www.RytechSites.com Dynamic Websites for your company! _______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! 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They run an Apple model, where according to a WP core developer I talked to last month, they have three dictators to make all final decisions. The good thing about that for community members is that they largely don't have to worry about the core code at all. Joomla (and increasingly Drupal) run more of the Android model where things are more fragmented and if you do want to see improvements, you have to get involved and push. There's no free ride from a big company that makes all the decisions for us. Steve On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Scott Wolpow wrote: One reason for WP rise is with people with zero budget. >It is very easy to use, but also very limited in scope and abilities. >Joomla is beginning to become a frustration. >But if you have complaints, then go and fix them. >Scott Wolpow > > >On 8/6/2011 10:30 PM, Stephen Britton wrote: >Hi Gang, >> >> >>Hope everyone is enjoying the weekend.? >> >> >>I want to remind everyone that at 6:30 PM on Thursday, August 11th, the monthly Joomla NYC User Group meeting will take place at our new meeting room at Lincoln Center, 146 West 65th Street. (For detailed directions, visit www.joomlanyc.org ) >> >> >>Scott Wolpow will discuss wire frames and the best methods to layout websites before you start building. I will present two Joomla templates - Construct and LessJoomla - that work with every screen from smart phones to jumbo television LCDs. >>? >>I also have copies of Stephen Burge's new book, Joomla and Barry North's Joomla 1.6: A User's Guide. >> >> >>We also need to remind everyone that Joomla Day Weekend is coming up soon - October 22 and 23. To take advantage of the $15 per ticket discount, you must register before Sept. 1. So if you haven't registered yet, think about doing it soon. For information and registration, visit www.joomladaynyc.com? >> >> >>And if you have registered, you should visit the website because there is recently updated information about the tracks and speakers. >> >> >>On other Joomla matters, I recently stumbled across an article, "How WordPress Beat Joomla" on Weblog Tools Collection, a website devoted to WordPress. The author, an Australian website designer, doesn't trash Joomla, but he mentions how WordPress was able to make quick changes that helped boost its popularity.? >> >> >>I don't completely agree with him, especially the part where bases CMS popularity on Google searches, but he brings up some interesting points.? >>?http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2011/08/05/how-wordpress-beat-joomla/?? >> >> >>Hope to see everyone on Thursday. >> >> >>All best, >> >> >>Steve >> >>-- >>Stephen Britton >>Technology Consultant >>sbritton at gmail.com >>ph: 914-661-0040 >> >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >_______________________________________________ >New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > >NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >http://www.nyphpcon.com > >Show Your Participation in New York PHP >http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -- Steve Burge CEO | Open Source Training steve at ostraining.com | (c) 678.516.4410 | (o) 678.223-3351 _______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From info at ostraining.com Sun Aug 7 10:53:20 2011 From: info at ostraining.com (OSTraining) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 10:53:20 -0400 Subject: [joomla] WP V Joomla In-Reply-To: <1312727933.92836.YahooMailNeo@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4E3E9569.3080304@wolpow.com> <1312727933.92836.YahooMailNeo@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks Donna I don't think there's any denying that open source projects that don't have businesses behind them are struggling to find models that work: - Joomla has problems as you mentioned. - I still see huge projects starting on Drupal 6 because those developers don't believe Drupal 7 is stable yet. - Firefox is being rapidly overhauled by Google Chrome. Just because community open source projects have challenges doesn't mean we should give up and turn to business-owned open source. More reason to roll up our sleeves. Steve On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Donna Marie Vincent < donnamarievincent at yahoo.com> wrote: > I stand corrected regarding the pay. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* OSTraining > > *To:* NYPHP SIG: Joomla > *Sent:* Sunday, August 7, 2011 10:23 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [joomla] WP V Joomla > > Donna > > Please, do a bit of research before slinging mud: > > The core team hasn't been paid in almost a year now. They are all > volunteers. > > At WordPress, they are almost all paid and paid one by one person. They run > an Apple model, where according to a WP core developer I talked to last > month, they have three dictators to make all final decisions. The good thing > about that for community members is that they largely don't have to worry > about the core code at all. > > Joomla (and increasingly Drupal) run more of the Android model where things > are more fragmented and if you do want to see improvements, you have to get > involved and push. There's no free ride from a big company that makes all > the decisions for us. > > Steve > > > > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Scott Wolpow wrote: > > One reason for WP rise is with people with zero budget. > It is very easy to use, but also very limited in scope and abilities. > Joomla is beginning to become a frustration. > But if you have complaints, then go and fix them. > Scott Wolpow > > > On 8/6/2011 10:30 PM, Stephen Britton wrote: > > Hi Gang, > > Hope everyone is enjoying the weekend. > > I want to remind everyone that at 6:30 PM on Thursday, August 11th, the > monthly Joomla NYC User Group meeting will take place at our new meeting > room at Lincoln Center, 146 West 65th Street. (For detailed directions, > visit www.joomlanyc.org ) > > Scott Wolpow will discuss wire frames and the best methods to layout > websites before you start building. I will present two Joomla templates - > Construct and LessJoomla - that work with every screen from smart phones to > jumbo television LCDs. > > I also have copies of Stephen Burge's new book, Joomla and > Barry North's Joomla 1.6: A User's Guide. > > We also need to remind everyone that Joomla Day Weekend is coming up soon > - October 22 and 23. To take advantage of the $15 per ticket discount, you > must register before Sept. 1. So if you haven't registered yet, think about > doing it soon. For information and registration, visit > www.joomladaynyc.com > > And if you have registered, you should visit the website because there is > recently updated information about the tracks and speakers. > > On other Joomla matters, I recently stumbled across an article, "How > WordPress Beat Joomla" on Weblog Tools Collection, a website devoted to > WordPress. The author, an Australian website designer, doesn't trash Joomla, > but he mentions how WordPress was able to make quick changes that helped > boost its popularity. > > I don't completely agree with him, especially the part where bases CMS > popularity on Google searches, but he brings up some interesting points. > > http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2011/08/05/how-wordpress-beat-joomla/ > > > Hope to see everyone on Thursday. > > All best, > > Steve > > -- > Stephen Britton > Technology Consultant > sbritton at gmail.com > ph: 914-661-0040 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing Listhttp://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Onlinehttp://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHPhttp://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > > -- > Steve Burge > CEO | Open Source Training > steve at ostraining.com | (c) 678.516.4410 | (o) 678.223-3351 > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -- Steve Burge CEO | Open Source Training steve at ostraining.com | (c) 678.516.4410 | (o) 678.223-3351 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From scott at wolpow.com Sun Aug 7 11:03:06 2011 From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow) Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 11:03:06 -0400 Subject: [joomla] WP V Joomla In-Reply-To: <1312727933.92836.YahooMailNeo@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4E3E9569.3080304@wolpow.com> <1312727933.92836.YahooMailNeo@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4E3EA92A.4030507@wolpow.com> Drupal is a bit of a hybrid. Core changes come from Drupal.org, which is often based on improvements done by Aquia (the company run by the Drupal creator). However, Drupal only allows vetted modules, which has good and bad elements. Back to Joomla. Most people who use Joomla are not coders. We need more people to get involved. That is one main reason for the second day of Joomla Day weekend. I have not started on 1.6 or 1.7 because I do not yet have all the extensions I need. Perhaps at the Joomla Day Weekend we can start to build a plan to advance Joomla. I am gain, who else wants to meet? Scott Wolpow On 8/7/2011 10:38 AM, Donna Marie Vincent wrote: > I stand corrected regarding the pay. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* OSTraining > *To:* NYPHP SIG: Joomla > *Sent:* Sunday, August 7, 2011 10:23 AM > *Subject:* Re: [joomla] WP V Joomla > > Donna > > Please, do a bit of research before slinging mud: > > The core team hasn't been paid in almost a year now. They are all > volunteers. > > At WordPress, they are almost all paid and paid one by one person. > They run an Apple model, where according to a WP core developer I > talked to last month, they have three dictators to make all final > decisions. The good thing about that for community members is that > they largely don't have to worry about the core code at all. > > Joomla (and increasingly Drupal) run more of the Android model where > things are more fragmented and if you do want to see improvements, you > have to get involved and push. There's no free ride from a big company > that makes all the decisions for us. > > Steve > > > > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Scott Wolpow > wrote: > > One reason for WP rise is with people with zero budget. > It is very easy to use, but also very limited in scope and abilities. > Joomla is beginning to become a frustration. > But if you have complaints, then go and fix them. > Scott Wolpow > > > On 8/6/2011 10:30 PM, Stephen Britton wrote: >> Hi Gang, >> >> Hope everyone is enjoying the weekend. >> >> I want to remind everyone that at 6:30 PM on Thursday, August >> 11th, the monthly Joomla NYC User Group meeting will take place >> at our new meeting room at Lincoln Center, 146 West 65th Street. >> (For detailed directions, visit www.joomlanyc.org >> ) >> >> Scott Wolpow will discuss wire frames and the best methods to >> layout websites before you start building. I will present two >> Joomla templates - Construct and LessJoomla - that work with >> every screen from smart phones to jumbo television LCDs. >> I also have copies of Stephen Burge's new book, Joomla >> and Barry North's Joomla 1.6: A User's Guide. >> >> We also need to remind everyone that Joomla Day Weekend is coming >> up soon - October 22 and 23. To take advantage of the $15 per >> ticket discount, you must register before Sept. 1. So if you >> haven't registered yet, think about doing it soon. For >> information and registration, visit www.joomladaynyc.com >> >> >> And if you have registered, you should visit the website because >> there is recently updated information about the tracks and speakers. >> >> On other Joomla matters, I recently stumbled across an article, >> "How WordPress Beat Joomla" on Weblog Tools Collection, a website >> devoted to WordPress. The author, an Australian website designer, >> doesn't trash Joomla, but he mentions how WordPress was able to >> make quick changes that helped boost its popularity. >> >> I don't completely agree with him, especially the part where >> bases CMS popularity on Google searches, but he brings up some >> interesting points. >> http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2011/08/05/how-wordpress-beat-joomla/ >> >> >> Hope to see everyone on Thursday. >> >> All best, >> >> Steve >> >> -- >> Stephen Britton >> Technology Consultant >> sbritton at gmail.com >> ph: 914-661-0040 >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > > -- > Steve Burge > CEO | Open Source Training > steve at ostraining.com | (c) 678.516.4410 > | (o) 678.223-3351 > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bbly1956 at gmail.com Sun Aug 7 11:09:54 2011 From: bbly1956 at gmail.com (William Bly) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 11:09:54 -0400 Subject: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 56, Issue 15 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear All, These days there seem to be more challenges with the new CMS and I have not yet found my comfort zone. It seems the Problem to solution ratio is leaning heavily to the problem side. Just finished a course attending not teaching where we used 1.6. I found a number of things troubling. Many of the extensions I regularly use with 1.5 not available. As a result I had to learn a new editor which was a plus but to add a map and a video needed to create an HTML module but to embed the code needed to turn off the editor. OK not too difficult but time consuming to track down and implement. I would imagine a big turn off to a new user. During the class we migrated from 1.6 to 1.7 where a number of things broke although the migration was swift it looks like I will need to go back to the template clubs forums for more fixes. Joomla is not alone. At work they chose to use Drupal to build a site for one of the units I work with. They started with 7 early this year then moved back to 6 as 7 was giving way too many problems. I believe the plan is too migrate to 7 again later. Now a third site we built with Joomla was converted to a custom CMS with PHP this site is sailing along without any of the issues we are facing with the Open Source CMS however you would need some good php skills to work on the custom CMS aside from uploading to the preset templates. An original attraction to CMS for me was less coding and an interface that non technical users could easily work with via the wysywig. Today signs all point to time to get up to speed with programming skills to develop and trouble shoot or build your own? regards - Bill Bly On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 10:38 AM, wrote: > Send joomla mailing list submissions to > joomla at lists.nyphp.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > joomla-owner at lists.nyphp.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of joomla digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: WP V Joomla (Donna Marie Vincent) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 07:38:53 -0700 (PDT) > From: Donna Marie Vincent > To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" > Subject: Re: [joomla] WP V Joomla > Message-ID: > <1312727933.92836.YahooMailNeo at web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I stand corrected regarding the pay. > > > > ________________________________ > From: OSTraining > To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla > Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 10:23 AM > Subject: Re: [joomla] WP V Joomla > > > Donna > > Please, do a bit of research before slinging mud: > > The core team hasn't been paid in almost a year now. They are all > volunteers. > > At WordPress, they are almost all paid and paid one by one person. They run > an Apple model, where according to a WP core developer I talked to last > month, they have three dictators to make all final decisions. The good thing > about that for community members is that they largely don't have to worry > about the core code at all. > > Joomla (and increasingly Drupal) run more of the Android model where things > are more fragmented and if you do want to see improvements, you have to get > involved and push. There's no free ride from a big company that makes all > the decisions for us. > > Steve > > > > > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Scott Wolpow wrote: > > One reason for WP rise is with people with zero budget. > >It is very easy to use, but also very limited in scope and > abilities. > >Joomla is beginning to become a frustration. > >But if you have complaints, then go and fix them. > >Scott Wolpow > > > > > >On 8/6/2011 10:30 PM, Stephen Britton wrote: > >Hi Gang, > >> > >> > >>Hope everyone is enjoying the weekend.? > >> > >> > >>I want to remind everyone that at 6:30 PM on Thursday, August 11th, the > monthly Joomla NYC User Group meeting will take place at our new meeting > room at Lincoln Center, 146 West 65th Street. (For detailed directions, > visit www.joomlanyc.org ) > >> > >> > >>Scott Wolpow will discuss wire frames and the best methods to layout > websites before you start building. I will present two Joomla templates - > Construct and LessJoomla - that work with every screen from smart phones to > jumbo television LCDs. > >>? > >>I also have copies of Stephen Burge's new book, Joomla and > Barry North's Joomla 1.6: A User's Guide. > >> > >> > >>We also need to remind everyone that Joomla Day Weekend is coming up soon > - October 22 and 23. To take advantage of the $15 per ticket discount, you > must register before Sept. 1. So if you haven't registered yet, think about > doing it soon. For information and registration, visit > www.joomladaynyc.com? > >> > >> > >>And if you have registered, you should visit the website because there is > recently updated information about the tracks and speakers. > >> > >> > >>On other Joomla matters, I recently stumbled across an article, "How > WordPress Beat Joomla" on Weblog Tools Collection, a website devoted to > WordPress. The author, an Australian website designer, doesn't trash Joomla, > but he mentions how WordPress was able to make quick changes that helped > boost its popularity.? > >> > >> > >>I don't completely agree with him, especially the part where bases CMS > popularity on Google searches, but he brings up some interesting points.? > >>? > http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2011/08/05/how-wordpress-beat-joomla/ > ?? > >> > >> > >>Hope to see everyone on Thursday. > >> > >> > >>All best, > >> > >> > >>Steve > >> > >>-- > >>Stephen Britton > >>Technology Consultant > >>sbritton at gmail.com > >>ph: 914-661-0040 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations > Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > >_______________________________________________ > >New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > >http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > > >NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > >http://www.nyphpcon.com > > > >Show Your Participation in New York PHP > >http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > > -- > Steve Burge > CEO | Open Source Training > steve at ostraining.com | (c) 678.516.4410 | (o) 678.223-3351 > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.nyphp.org/pipermail/joomla/attachments/20110807/c66b414e/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > joomla mailing list > joomla at lists.nyphp.org > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > End of joomla Digest, Vol 56, Issue 15 > ************************************** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com Sun Aug 7 11:26:12 2011 From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 08:26:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [joomla] WP V Joomla In-Reply-To: <4E3EA92A.4030507@wolpow.com> References: <4E3E9569.3080304@wolpow.com> <1312727933.92836.YahooMailNeo@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4E3EA92A.4030507@wolpow.com> Message-ID: <1312730772.51002.YahooMailNeo@web35601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Well, if you have not used 1.6/1.7 yet, then you don't even know what I am referring to! Real basic stuff just not working.? Try changing a few words in a content article and saving.? It says successfully saved, but you better check because sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't. The first time I thought it was my imagination or something to do with my particular installation.? But it happens intermittently on all my sites and on different webhosts.? This never happened before in 1.0 and 1.5. So you better do a quick copy of your content before clicking "Save" because you might have to retype all your edits. ________________________________ From: Scott Wolpow To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [joomla] WP V Joomla Drupal is a bit of a hybrid. Core changes come from Drupal.org, which is often based on improvements done by Aquia (the company run by the Drupal creator). However, Drupal only allows vetted modules, which has good and bad elements. Back to Joomla. Most people who use Joomla are not coders. We need more people to get involved. That is one main reason for the second day of Joomla Day weekend. I have not started on 1.6 or 1.7 because I do not yet have all the extensions I need. Perhaps at the Joomla Day Weekend we can start to build a plan to advance Joomla. I am gain, who else wants to meet? Scott Wolpow On 8/7/2011 10:38 AM, Donna Marie Vincent wrote: I stand corrected regarding the pay. > > > > >________________________________ >From: OSTraining >To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla >Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 10:23 AM >Subject: Re: [joomla] WP V Joomla > > >Donna > >Please, do a bit of research before slinging mud: > >The core team hasn't been paid in almost a year now. They are all volunteers. > >At WordPress, they are almost all paid and paid one by one person. They run an Apple model, where according to a WP core developer I talked to last month, they have three dictators to make all final decisions. The good thing about that for community members is that they largely don't have to worry about the core code at all. > >Joomla (and increasingly Drupal) run more of the Android model where things are more fragmented and if you do want to see improvements, you have to get involved and push. There's no free ride from a big company that makes all the decisions for us. > >Steve > > > > >On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Scott Wolpow wrote: > >One reason for WP rise is with people with zero budget. >>It is very easy to use, but also very limited in scope and abilities. >>Joomla is beginning to become a frustration. >>But if you have complaints, then go and fix them. >>Scott Wolpow >> >> >>On 8/6/2011 10:30 PM, Stephen Britton wrote: >>Hi Gang, >>> >>> >>>Hope everyone is enjoying the weekend.? >>> >>> >>>I want to remind everyone that at 6:30 PM on Thursday, August 11th, the monthly Joomla NYC User Group meeting will take place at our new meeting room at Lincoln Center, 146 West 65th Street. (For detailed directions, visit www.joomlanyc.org ) >>> >>> >>>Scott Wolpow will discuss wire frames and the best methods to layout websites before you start building. I will present two Joomla templates - Construct and LessJoomla - that work with every screen from smart phones to jumbo television LCDs. >>>? >>>I also have copies of Stephen Burge's new book, Joomla and Barry North's Joomla 1.6: A User's Guide. >>> >>> >>>We also need to remind everyone that Joomla Day Weekend is coming up soon - October 22 and 23. To take advantage of the $15 per ticket discount, you must register before Sept. 1. So if you haven't registered yet, think about doing it soon. For information and registration, visit www.joomladaynyc.com? >>> >>> >>>And if you have registered, you should visit the website because there is recently updated information about the tracks and speakers. >>> >>> >>>On other Joomla matters, I recently stumbled across an article, "How WordPress Beat Joomla" on Weblog Tools Collection, a website devoted to WordPress. The author, an Australian website designer, doesn't trash Joomla, but he mentions how WordPress was able to make quick changes that helped boost its popularity.? >>> >>> >>>I don't completely agree with him, especially the part where bases CMS popularity on Google searches, but he brings up some interesting points.? >>>?http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2011/08/05/how-wordpress-beat-joomla/?? >>> >>> >>>Hope to see everyone on Thursday. >>> >>> >>>All best, >>> >>> >>>Steve >>> >>>-- >>>Stephen Britton >>>Technology Consultant >>>sbritton at gmail.com >>>ph: 914-661-0040 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >>_______________________________________________ >>New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >>http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla >> >>NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >>Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> > > >-- >Steve Burge >CEO | Open Source Training >steve at ostraining.com | (c) 678.516.4410 | (o) 678.223-3351 > >_______________________________________________ >New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > >NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >http://www.nyphpcon.com > >Show Your Participation in New York PHP >http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > > > > >_______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php _______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bbly1956 at gmail.com Sun Aug 7 11:27:24 2011 From: bbly1956 at gmail.com (William Bly) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 11:27:24 -0400 Subject: [joomla] web consultant Message-ID: I expect soon there will be consultant position available where I work. These positions are offered periodically for a fixed period with a payment schedule linked to items delivered. This position will be to work on a CMS sort out CSS issues, debugging and develop content areas. They will be looking for experienced developers with PHP, CSS, Javascript for a Drupal install version 6. Usually candidates are requested to have a degree. If you know of any one interested that may be interested in a short term position email me and I will forward the posting when it becomes available. thanks Bill email bbly1956 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Lica at jlrentertainment.com Sun Aug 7 11:52:54 2011 From: Lica at jlrentertainment.com (Lica Wouters) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 11:52:54 -0400 Subject: [joomla] WP V Joomla In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2A6A5C4C-D7B5-4758-9BC0-76289720F1C4@jlrentertainment.com> I'm a strong believer for the right tool for the right job, but recently I've been using Wordpress more than Joomla and here's why: From a marketing point of view, the majority of my clients need and want to tap into social media streams and interact with their target audience. This is easily done in Wordpress. Wordpress, 'out-of-the-box' comes with a comment system which can easily be enhanced by installing some extra bells and whistles through their plug ins. It's easy to use their RSS feeds to both push and pull feeds to social media outlets and again, there is a plethora of plug-ins that really hone in on what you need and even allow for automated posting to and from the Wordpress site from social media outlets. Wordpress, 'out-of-the-box' can easily be themed for HTML5, unlike Joomla! which requires many HTML overrides to make it HTML5 compliant. Wordpress has great SEO 'out-of-the-box' and some great free SEO tools to add-on such as Yoast Wordpress SEO which allows my clients to understand SEO and start using it themselves. The Wordpress admin interface is easier to use for my clients. I personally, don't see the difference, but from a business point of view, I need to give my clients an interface that is not intimidating or requires a steep learning curve. Up to now, I have not had to pay for a subscription or fee to use any add-ons or plug-ins. It has been entirely free. So to sum it up, for me Wordpress is easier to use, cheaper to deploy and has greater social media marketing options and most importantly, its fits the requirements that my clients are looking for. I love Joomla! and I've followed it from when it was still 1.0, but the reality is that the web is changing rapidly and it's not 'easily' meeting my clients needs, so unless my clients come to me and request Joomla! or they need to set-up a user management system, my choice is Wordpress at the moment. Lica Wouters On Aug 7, 2011, at 11:03 AM, joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org wrote: > Send joomla mailing list submissions to > joomla at lists.nyphp.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > joomla-owner at lists.nyphp.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of joomla digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: WP V Joomla (Scott Wolpow) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 11:03:06 -0400 > From: Scott Wolpow > To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org > Subject: Re: [joomla] WP V Joomla > Message-ID: <4E3EA92A.4030507 at wolpow.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" > > Drupal is a bit of a hybrid. Core changes come from Drupal.org, which is > often based on improvements done by Aquia (the company run by the Drupal > creator). > > However, Drupal only allows vetted modules, which has good and bad elements. > > Back to Joomla. > Most people who use Joomla are not coders. > > We need more people to get involved. > That is one main reason for the second day of Joomla Day weekend. > > I have not started on 1.6 or 1.7 because I do not yet have all the > extensions I need. > > Perhaps at the Joomla Day Weekend we can start to build a plan to > advance Joomla. > > I am gain, who else wants to meet? > > Scott Wolpow > > On 8/7/2011 10:38 AM, Donna Marie Vincent wrote: >> I stand corrected regarding the pay. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* OSTraining >> *To:* NYPHP SIG: Joomla >> *Sent:* Sunday, August 7, 2011 10:23 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [joomla] WP V Joomla >> >> Donna >> >> Please, do a bit of research before slinging mud: >> >> The core team hasn't been paid in almost a year now. They are all >> volunteers. >> >> At WordPress, they are almost all paid and paid one by one person. >> They run an Apple model, where according to a WP core developer I >> talked to last month, they have three dictators to make all final >> decisions. The good thing about that for community members is that >> they largely don't have to worry about the core code at all. >> >> Joomla (and increasingly Drupal) run more of the Android model where >> things are more fragmented and if you do want to see improvements, you >> have to get involved and push. There's no free ride from a big company >> that makes all the decisions for us. >> >> Steve >> >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Scott Wolpow > > wrote: >> >> One reason for WP rise is with people with zero budget. >> It is very easy to use, but also very limited in scope and abilities. >> Joomla is beginning to become a frustration. >> But if you have complaints, then go and fix them. >> Scott Wolpow >> >> >> On 8/6/2011 10:30 PM, Stephen Britton wrote: >>> Hi Gang, >>> >>> Hope everyone is enjoying the weekend. >>> >>> I want to remind everyone that at 6:30 PM on Thursday, August >>> 11th, the monthly Joomla NYC User Group meeting will take place >>> at our new meeting room at Lincoln Center, 146 West 65th Street. >>> (For detailed directions, visit www.joomlanyc.org >>> ) >>> >>> Scott Wolpow will discuss wire frames and the best methods to >>> layout websites before you start building. I will present two >>> Joomla templates - Construct and LessJoomla - that work with >>> every screen from smart phones to jumbo television LCDs. >>> I also have copies of Stephen Burge's new book, Joomla >>> and Barry North's Joomla 1.6: A User's Guide. >>> >>> We also need to remind everyone that Joomla Day Weekend is coming >>> up soon - October 22 and 23. To take advantage of the $15 per >>> ticket discount, you must register before Sept. 1. So if you >>> haven't registered yet, think about doing it soon. For >>> information and registration, visit www.joomladaynyc.com >>> >>> >>> And if you have registered, you should visit the website because >>> there is recently updated information about the tracks and speakers. >>> >>> On other Joomla matters, I recently stumbled across an article, >>> "How WordPress Beat Joomla" on Weblog Tools Collection, a website >>> devoted to WordPress. The author, an Australian website designer, >>> doesn't trash Joomla, but he mentions how WordPress was able to >>> make quick changes that helped boost its popularity. >>> >>> I don't completely agree with him, especially the part where >>> bases CMS popularity on Google searches, but he brings up some >>> interesting points. >>> http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2011/08/05/how-wordpress-beat-joomla/ >>> >>> >>> Hope to see everyone on Thursday. >>> >>> All best, >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> -- >>> Stephen Britton >>> Technology Consultant >>> sbritton at gmail.com >>> ph: 914-661-0040 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla >>> >>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >>> http://www.nyphpcon.com >>> >>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla >> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online >> http://www.nyphpcon.com >> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Steve Burge >> CEO | Open Source Training >> steve at ostraining.com | (c) 678.516.4410 >> | (o) 678.223-3351 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! 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I guess I must have forgot if it aint broke don't change it. Oz Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From davidalanroth at gmail.com Mon Aug 8 09:32:50 2011 From: davidalanroth at gmail.com (David Roth) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 09:32:50 -0400 Subject: [joomla] WP V Joomla In-Reply-To: <2A6A5C4C-D7B5-4758-9BC0-76289720F1C4@jlrentertainment.com> References: <2A6A5C4C-D7B5-4758-9BC0-76289720F1C4@jlrentertainment.com> Message-ID: <678E0B5B-47DE-4954-BB70-F17F1F938A37@gmail.com> When I started using Joomla 1.6, my first impression is that it was faster than 1.5. I was annoyed I had to use 1.5 again because some of the things I needed at the time weren't ready for 1.6. But I have confidence that the concerns will get addressed in the Joomla development, unless something has changed lately and I'm not aware of it. I don't see a real problem staying with 1.5 for now to be honest, and I'm willing to wait out for the things I'm reading about to be addressed. It's been a while since I've paid close attention to the development, testing and documentation of the Joomla as a project. Is there an area where we in the Joomla community could pitch in to strengthen the efforts to fix these problems? David Roth From rytech123 at gmail.com Mon Aug 8 09:47:16 2011 From: rytech123 at gmail.com (Laura Gordon) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 09:47:16 -0400 Subject: [joomla] WP V Joomla In-Reply-To: <678E0B5B-47DE-4954-BB70-F17F1F938A37@gmail.com> References: <2A6A5C4C-D7B5-4758-9BC0-76289720F1C4@jlrentertainment.com> <678E0B5B-47DE-4954-BB70-F17F1F938A37@gmail.com> Message-ID: David, Yes, visit joomla.org, here are some good links: http://developer.joomla.org/ Here you can find ways to help the project, and more! Also, attend a joomla event, where the joomla leadership team will be attending, what better way than to speak directly with those making the key decisions for Joomla! Can I mention, joomladaynyc.com ? We will be dedicating the 2nd day for just developers. It will also be a great time for you to meet and speak with Ryan Ozimek, president of OSM, and many others that are integrated into the joomla project. Of course there are many other joomladay events as well, Austin in Sept, and so on... thanks, Laura On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 9:32 AM, David Roth wrote: > When I started using Joomla 1.6, my first impression is that it was faster > than 1.5. I was annoyed I had to use 1.5 again because some of the things I > needed at the time weren't ready for 1.6. But I have confidence that the > concerns will get addressed in the Joomla development, unless something has > changed lately and I'm not aware of it. I don't see a real problem staying > with 1.5 for now to be honest, and I'm willing to wait out for the things > I'm reading about to be addressed. > > It's been a while since I've paid close attention to the development, > testing and documentation of the Joomla as a project. 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Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php From Tim at TEdgeTech.com Wed Aug 10 13:05:24 2011 From: Tim at TEdgeTech.com (Tim Edge) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:05:24 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Pizza time In-Reply-To: <4E4273D2.5000800@wolpow.com> References: <4E4273D2.5000800@wolpow.com> Message-ID: <4E42BA54.8090309@TEdgeTech.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From web at kluger.com Wed Aug 10 14:25:57 2011 From: web at kluger.com (Larry Kluger) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:25:57 -0400 Subject: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 56, Issue 22 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I plan to be there. Veg pizza is appreciated... Larry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbritton at gmail.com Wed Aug 10 15:03:51 2011 From: sbritton at gmail.com (Stephen Britton) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 15:03:51 -0400 Subject: [joomla] August NYC JUG meeting reminder and BONUS Joomla e-commerce news Message-ID: Greetings! I want to remind everyone that the monthly Joomla NYC User Group meeting takes place tomorrow night at 6:30 PM at Lincoln Center at 146 West 65th St. (For more detailed instructions, http://www.joomlanyc.org ) This month Scott Wolpow and I will be presenting. Scott will discuss wireframes and how to design your site before you start construction. I will show two Joomla templates that can be seen in a wide range of browsers, from iPhones to 55 inch LCD screens. I also have a bunch of Joomla books to give away: Stephen Burge?s new Joomla! , and Barry North?s Joomla 1.6: A Users Guide. And bring your appetite too as Scott is bringing pizza! *BONUS Joomla News, featuring VirtueMart 2* Mark Twain once said "The report of my death is greatly exaggerated" and apparently the same can be said about VirtueMart, the popular shopping cart component for Joomla. Last year it had been rumored that VirtueMart would not be upgraded to work with Joomla versions released after 1.5. This turned out to the false as VirtueMart 2, release candidate 2, was released on July 6th and the final release is expected later this year. To be fair, a year ago it was easy to think that VirtueMart would die off. Security updates were rare and even rarer was news and support from the VirtueMart developers. Fortunately, the lack of communication helped spawn a sub-industry with numerous third-party companies providing tech support, all types of Virtue Mart add-ons, and special templates. Now the original VirtueMart developers have regrouped and are actively developing VirtueMart 1.1.9, which works with J1.5, and the upcoming VirtueMart 2, which will work with J1.6/1.7. Last month at Joomla Day Greece 2011, VirtueMart project member, Max Milbers, gave a presentation on the future of VirtueMart. http://virtuemart.net/blog/136/406-presentation-on-joomladay-greece-2011(Note that there is a 45 minute video on his VirtueMart presentation linked to the site.) Among the features slated to be supported by VirtueMart 2 are jQuery, Akeebabackup, and a redesigned table layout. If you are curious and have some spare time, you can download the release candidate for J1.6/1.7 http://virtuemart.net/news/list-all-news/405-virtuemart-2-rc-2-ready-for-download I don?t want this to sound like a plug for VirtueMart. I need to mention the excellent Tienda shopping cart from our friends at Discouri Design. Owner, Rafael is a board member of Joomla NYC and has recently created a way to use Tienda with the Zoo front-end component. http://bit.ly/ahWJdX Another shopping cart worth considering is redSHOP by redCOMPONENT. http://bit.ly/a2FWB1 redSHOP began life as a fork of VirtueMart and has since taken on a life of its own. Right now, it only works in Joomla 1.5. I tested it last year and it appeared to be stable, but never got around to putting it to use. I also want to add that the redCOMPONENT folks donated several thousand dollars worth of plugins and component subscriptions that we gave away at JoomlaDay 2010. Speaking of JoomlaDay, if you have not registered for JoomlaDay NYC 2011, you should do it now because time is running out. There is a $15 discount per ticket if you sign up before Sept. 1. For more information and to sign up, visit http://www.joomladaynyc.org Hope to see everyone tomorrow night. - - - Steve -- Stephen Britton Technology Consultant sbritton at gmail.com ph: 914-661-0040 "If you want to greatly increase your chance of success, double your rate of failure." - Tom Watson, founder of IBM. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lfranklin88 at verizon.net Wed Aug 10 16:48:05 2011 From: lfranklin88 at verizon.net (Laura Franklin) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:48:05 -0400 Subject: [joomla] August NYC JUG meeting reminder and BONUS Joomla e-commerce news In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000301cc579e$cf8dfca0$6ea9f5e0$@verizon.net> Hi Stephen I have a new Joomla website and tried to go to the July meeting but could not find it!!! What building is it in? I felt really lame. Also, do you have a date for September? I cannot make it tomorrow. Thanks so much. Looking forward to meeting everyone. Laura From: joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Britton Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 3:04 PM To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla Subject: [joomla] August NYC JUG meeting reminder and BONUS Joomla e-commerce news Greetings! I want to remind everyone that the monthly Joomla NYC User Group meeting takes place tomorrow night at 6:30 PM at Lincoln Center at 146 West 65th St. (For more detailed instructions, http://www.joomlanyc.org ) This month Scott Wolpow and I will be presenting. Scott will discuss wireframes and how to design your site before you start construction. I will show two Joomla templates that can be seen in a wide range of browsers, from iPhones to 55 inch LCD screens. I also have a bunch of Joomla books to give away: Stephen Burge's new Joomla! , and Barry North's Joomla 1.6: A Users Guide. And bring your appetite too as Scott is bringing pizza! BONUS Joomla News, featuring VirtueMart 2 Mark Twain once said "The report of my death is greatly exaggerated" and apparently the same can be said about VirtueMart, the popular shopping cart component for Joomla. Last year it had been rumored that VirtueMart would not be upgraded to work with Joomla versions released after 1.5. This turned out to the false as VirtueMart 2, release candidate 2, was released on July 6th and the final release is expected later this year. To be fair, a year ago it was easy to think that VirtueMart would die off. Security updates were rare and even rarer was news and support from the VirtueMart developers. Fortunately, the lack of communication helped spawn a sub-industry with numerous third-party companies providing tech support, all types of Virtue Mart add-ons, and special templates. Now the original VirtueMart developers have regrouped and are actively developing VirtueMart 1.1.9, which works with J1.5, and the upcoming VirtueMart 2, which will work with J1.6/1.7. Last month at Joomla Day Greece 2011, VirtueMart project member, Max Milbers, gave a presentation on the future of VirtueMart. http://virtuemart.net/blog/136/406-presentation-on-joomladay-greece-2011 (Note that there is a 45 minute video on his VirtueMart presentation linked to the site.) Among the features slated to be supported by VirtueMart 2 are jQuery, Akeebabackup, and a redesigned table layout. If you are curious and have some spare time, you can download the release candidate for J1.6/1.7 http://virtuemart.net/news/list-all-news/405-virtuemart-2-rc-2-ready-for-dow nload I don't want this to sound like a plug for VirtueMart. I need to mention the excellent Tienda shopping cart from our friends at Discouri Design. Owner, Rafael is a board member of Joomla NYC and has recently created a way to use Tienda with the Zoo front-end component. http://bit.ly/ahWJdX Another shopping cart worth considering is redSHOP by redCOMPONENT. http://bit.ly/a2FWB1 redSHOP began life as a fork of VirtueMart and has since taken on a life of its own. Right now, it only works in Joomla 1.5. I tested it last year and it appeared to be stable, but never got around to putting it to use. I also want to add that the redCOMPONENT folks donated several thousand dollars worth of plugins and component subscriptions that we gave away at JoomlaDay 2010. Speaking of JoomlaDay, if you have not registered for JoomlaDay NYC 2011, you should do it now because time is running out. There is a $15 discount per ticket if you sign up before Sept. 1. For more information and to sign up, visit http://www.joomladaynyc.org Hope to see everyone tomorrow night. - - - Steve -- Stephen Britton Technology Consultant sbritton at gmail.com ph: 914-661-0040 "If you want to greatly increase your chance of success, double your rate of failure." - Tom Watson, founder of IBM. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbritton at gmail.com Wed Aug 10 17:03:00 2011 From: sbritton at gmail.com (Stephen Britton) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 17:03:00 -0400 Subject: [joomla] August NYC JUG meeting reminder and BONUS Joomla e-commerce news In-Reply-To: <000301cc579e$cf8dfca0$6ea9f5e0$@verizon.net> References: <000301cc579e$cf8dfca0$6ea9f5e0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: Sorry to hear that you could not find the location. It's on 65th Street, west of Broadway. You will see a glass enclosed restaurant on the left side. And underneath the restaurant, you will see two glass doors. Go through the glass doors and walk to the back. Then take a left and you will see a security guard. Tell him you are there for the meeting and he will buzz you in. Here is my cell phone number if you have problems - 914-661-0040. The meetings take place on the second Thursday of the month, so it will be on Sept. 8th. Hope to see you there. - - - - Steve On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Laura Franklin wrote: > Hi Stephen**** > > ** ** > > I have a new Joomla website and tried to go to the July meeting**** > > but could not find it!!! What building is it in? I felt really lame.**** > > Also, do you have a date for September? I cannot make it tomorrow.**** > > ** ** > > Thanks so much. Looking forward to meeting everyone. Laura**** > > ** ** > > *From:* joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto: > joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Britton > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 10, 2011 3:04 PM > *To:* NYPHP SIG: Joomla > *Subject:* [joomla] August NYC JUG meeting reminder and BONUS Joomla > e-commerce news**** > > ** ** > > Greetings!**** > > ** ** > > I want to remind everyone that the monthly Joomla NYC User Group meeting > takes place tomorrow night at 6:30 PM at Lincoln Center at 146 West 65th St. > (For more detailed instructions, http://www.joomlanyc.org )**** > > ** ** > > This month Scott Wolpow and I will be presenting. Scott will discuss > wireframes and how to design your site before you start construction. I will > show two Joomla templates that can be seen in a wide range of browsers, from > iPhones to 55 inch LCD screens. **** > > ** ** > > I also have a bunch of Joomla books to give away: Stephen Burge?s new > Joomla! , and Barry North?s Joomla 1.6: A Users Guide. **** > > ** ** > > And bring your appetite too as Scott is bringing pizza! **** > > ** ** > > *BONUS Joomla News, featuring VirtueMart 2***** > > ** ** > > Mark Twain once said "The report of my death is greatly exaggerated" and > apparently the same can be said about VirtueMart, the popular shopping cart > component for Joomla.**** > > ** ** > > Last year it had been rumored that VirtueMart would not be upgraded to work > with Joomla versions released after 1.5. This turned out to the false as > VirtueMart 2, release candidate 2, was released on July 6th and the final > release is expected later this year.**** > > ** ** > > To be fair, a year ago it was easy to think that VirtueMart would die off. > Security updates were rare and even rarer was news and support from the > VirtueMart developers. Fortunately, the lack of communication helped spawn a > sub-industry with numerous third-party companies providing tech support, all > types of Virtue Mart add-ons, and special templates.**** > > ** ** > > Now the original VirtueMart developers have regrouped and are actively > developing VirtueMart 1.1.9, which works with J1.5, and the upcoming > VirtueMart 2, which will work with J1.6/1.7. Last month at Joomla Day Greece > 2011, VirtueMart project member, Max Milbers, gave a presentation on the > future of VirtueMart. > http://virtuemart.net/blog/136/406-presentation-on-joomladay-greece-2011(Note that there is a 45 minute video on his VirtueMart presentation linked > to the site.)**** > > ** ** > > Among the features slated to be supported by VirtueMart 2 are jQuery, > Akeebabackup, and a redesigned table layout. If you are curious and have > some spare time, you can download the release candidate for J1.6/1.7 > http://virtuemart.net/news/list-all-news/405-virtuemart-2-rc-2-ready-for-download > **** > > ** ** > > I don?t want this to sound like a plug for VirtueMart. I need to mention > the excellent Tienda shopping cart from our friends at Discouri Design. > Owner, Rafael is a board member of Joomla NYC and has recently created a way > to use Tienda with the Zoo front-end component. http://bit.ly/ahWJdX**** > > ** ** > > Another shopping cart worth considering is redSHOP by redCOMPONENT. > http://bit.ly/a2FWB1**** > > redSHOP began life as a fork of VirtueMart and has since taken on a life of > its own. Right now, it only works in Joomla 1.5. I tested it last year and > it appeared to be stable, but never got around to putting it to use. **** > > ** ** > > I also want to add that the redCOMPONENT folks donated several thousand > dollars worth of plugins and component subscriptions that we gave away at > JoomlaDay 2010.**** > > ** ** > > Speaking of JoomlaDay, if you have not registered for JoomlaDay NYC 2011, > you should do it now because time is running out. There is a $15 discount > per ticket if you sign up before Sept. 1. For more information and to sign > up, visit http://www.joomladaynyc.org**** > > ** ** > > Hope to see everyone tomorrow night.**** > > ** ** > > - - - Steve**** > > > -- > Stephen Britton > Technology Consultant > sbritton at gmail.com > ph: 914-661-0040**** > > "If you want to greatly increase your chance of success, double your rate > of failure." - Tom Watson, founder of IBM.**** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php > -- Stephen Britton Technology Consultant sbritton at gmail.com ph: 914-661-0040 "If you want to greatly increase your chance of success, double your rate of failure." - Tom Watson, founder of IBM. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php From rytech123 at gmail.com Fri Aug 19 07:55:31 2011 From: rytech123 at gmail.com (Laura Gordon) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 07:55:31 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Reminder - sign up for joomla day Message-ID: Hi all, Just a reminder that we have a special discount of $15 per ticket if you sign up BEFORE 9/1, so sign up soon! The ticket prices are: 1 Day: $90 Prior to 9/1: $75 2 Day: $160 Prior to 9/1: $145 Tickets include: - Full Day of workshops - Breakfast - Lunch - Freebies & goodies from our sponsors! *Note, we may not be offering the 2 day option after 9/1, just the single day at $90 per day...so you will save a big amount if you sign up prior to 9/1! We will be closing the sale of all tickets COMPLETELY by 10/1, so don't miss out! This 2 day event already has about 60 people signed up for each day, we will stop registrations at 150. This event will have high energy, great speakers, great workshops, and a great time to network with people from all over the world! Also, don't forget about sponsorship. For $300 Silver Sponsorship, you can get a single 2 day ticket, AND get your logo up on our website which is getting over 70 hits a day, and will be increasing as we get closer... get your company noticed! We have 5 Silver sponsorships available. We have many other sponsorship options available as well. To register, visit: http://www.joomladaynyc.com Thanks, Laura & Scott Event Coordinators, JoomlaDayNYC -- I have a new email address: rytech123 at gmail.com Member of www.JoomlaNYC.org Trainer for www.JoomlaTraining.com Sponsor for www.JoomlaDayNYC.com Come to JoomlaDayNYC.com - 2011 - October 22 & October 23 www.RytechSites.com Dynamic Websites for your company! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From helvecio.rj at gmail.com Thu Aug 25 08:09:40 2011 From: helvecio.rj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Helv=C3=A9cio_da_Silva?=) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:09:40 -0300 Subject: [joomla] Molajo Message-ID: I realize there's a lot of unsatisfied people after the launch of 1.6. Out of curiosity I googled for joomla forks and found a distribution in development called Molajo. Even though they claim they're not a fork, I found it quite an interesting project to keep an eye on. It seems there was a talk about it in JDNYC 2010 - which I missed - according to a video I saw. What are your thoughts about it? Cheers! 2011/8/7 Donna Marie Vincent > It makes no sense that Joomla is now extremely buggy when we had a stable > 1.5. The core team used to be all volunteers. Now they are being paid and > Joomla has not gotten much better and in some ways worse. I think it's time > for another fork. There were many good 3rd party admin tools that could > have been incorporated and they weren't. > > > -- Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kim.terry at gmail.com Thu Aug 25 12:17:29 2011 From: kim.terry at gmail.com (Terry Kim) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 12:17:29 -0400 Subject: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 56, Issue 28 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There are a couple podcasts on Joomstew which are worth listening to to get up to speed on Molajo... I'd say it looks promising, but not for me, at least not yet. http://people.joomla.org/groups/viewbulletin/670-joomstew-radio-molajo-a-new-direction.html?groupid=214 On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:00 PM, wrote: > Send joomla mailing list submissions to > ? ? ? ?joomla at lists.nyphp.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > ? ? ? ?http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ? ? ? ?joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ? ? ? ?joomla-owner at lists.nyphp.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of joomla digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > ? 1. Molajo (Helv?cio da Silva) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:09:40 -0300 > From: Helv?cio da Silva > To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" > Subject: [joomla] Molajo > Message-ID: > ? ? ? ? > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I realize there's a lot of unsatisfied people after the launch of 1.6. > > Out of curiosity I googled for joomla forks and found a distribution in > development called Molajo. Even though they claim they're not a fork, I > found it quite an interesting project to keep an eye on. > > It seems there was a talk about it in JDNYC 2010 - which I missed - > according to a video I saw. > > What are your thoughts about it? > > Cheers! > > 2011/8/7 Donna Marie Vincent > >> It makes no sense that Joomla is now extremely buggy when we had a stable >> 1.5. ?The core team used to be all volunteers. ?Now they are being paid and >> Joomla has not gotten much better and in some ways worse. ?I think it's time >> for another fork. ?There were many good 3rd party admin tools that could >> have been incorporated and they weren't. >> >> >> -- > Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva > Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com > http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > joomla mailing list > joomla at lists.nyphp.org > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > End of joomla Digest, Vol 56, Issue 28 > ************************************** > -- Terry Kim ************************ Email: kim.terry at gmail.com ?| ?Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/terrykim From garyamort at gmail.com Mon Aug 29 11:11:44 2011 From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:11:44 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Molajo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E5BAC30.2010505@gmail.com> On 8/25/2011 8:09 AM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote: > I realize there's a lot of unsatisfied people after the launch of 1.6. > > Out of curiosity I googled for joomla forks and found a distribution > in development called Molajo. Even though they claim they're not a > fork, I found it quite an interesting project to keep an eye on. > > It seems there was a talk about it in JDNYC 2010 - which I missed - > according to a video I saw. > > What are your thoughts about it? It has not had a release in over a year. In my book, that makes it a dead project. OTOH Joomla 1.7 is sooooo close to a terrific system... a LOT of 'under the hood' features have been added that I can see from the direction their going things may well improve significantly in 1.8. The number of new features making itself into core have jumped astronomically since moving to github. It makes it so much easier to suggest and add a feature to Joomla - you implement it in your own branch and submit a pull request. No creating patch files, importing, exporting, and such. The CMS itself really needs to get onto the same version control platform. From matt at betweenbrain.com Mon Aug 29 14:42:56 2011 From: matt at betweenbrain.com (Matt Thomas) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 14:42:56 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Molajo In-Reply-To: <4E5BAC30.2010505@gmail.com> References: <4E5BAC30.2010505@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Folks, I just wanted to drop in and add a few thoughts to this thread. The Molajo project was first announced, and we first started work on it, in October of last year - less than one year ago. At J and Beyond this year we announced a new direction for Molajo that would help showcase one of the many potential uses for the Joomla platform. This new direction meant that instead of creating a distribution of Joomla we would create a new application utilizing the Joomla platform. We have been making good progress since this change in May, and you can follow along at https://github.com/organizations/Molajo. Molajo has not reached Alpha yet, but we do anticipate a release in the upcoming months. Hopefully you'll like what we've done. Best, Matt Thomas Founder betweenbrain ? Lead Developer Construct Template Development Framework Phone: 203.632.9322 Twitter: @betweenbrain Github: https://github.com/betweenbrain On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Gary Mort wrote: > On 8/25/2011 8:09 AM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote: > >> I realize there's a lot of unsatisfied people after the launch of 1.6. >> >> Out of curiosity I googled for joomla forks and found a distribution in >> development called Molajo. Even though they claim they're not a fork, I >> found it quite an interesting project to keep an eye on. >> >> It seems there was a talk about it in JDNYC 2010 - which I missed - >> according to a video I saw. >> >> What are your thoughts about it? >> > > It has not had a release in over a year. In my book, that makes it a dead > project. > > OTOH Joomla 1.7 is sooooo close to a terrific system... a LOT of 'under the > hood' features have been added that I can see from the direction their going > things may well improve significantly in 1.8. The number of new features > making itself into core have jumped astronomically since moving to github. > It makes it so much easier to suggest and add a feature to Joomla - you > implement it in your own branch and submit a pull request. No creating > patch files, importing, exporting, and such. > > The CMS itself really needs to get onto the same version control platform. > ______________________________**_________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! 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URL: From chris at theendrecords.com Tue Aug 30 23:19:23 2011 From: chris at theendrecords.com (Chris French) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 23:19:23 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Hosted commenting In-Reply-To: <1314760402.54767.YahooMailNeo@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1314760402.54767.YahooMailNeo@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I personally never used intense debate, but I have used disqus on several sites and find it really nice all around if you pay for an account 19.99 for all your sites you get nice tracking features too. I am sure that since wordpress now owning intense debate they good too but maybe wouldn't be as cross platform?? Atleast disqus claims they are better cross platform On Aug 30, 2011 11:13 PM, "Donna Marie Vincent" wrote: > I am having a difficult time implementing a commenting system in 1.7 with social networking login across all components (MT and Zoo on same site). 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Atleast disqus claims they are better cross platform On Aug 30, 2011 11:13 PM, "Donna Marie Vincent" wrote: > I am having a difficult time implementing a commenting system in 1.7 with social networking login across all components (MT and Zoo on same site).? So I am looking at hosted commenting systems. > > Does anyone have any experience with Disqus vs. IntenseDebate?? The articles comparing them that I've goggled all seem to be old. _______________________________________________ New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From garyamort at gmail.com Wed Aug 31 16:05:42 2011 From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:05:42 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Hosted commenting In-Reply-To: References: <1314760402.54767.YahooMailNeo@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4E5E9416.7050409@gmail.com> On 8/30/2011 11:19 PM, Chris French wrote: > > I personally never used intense debate, but I have used disqus on > several sites and find it really nice all around if you pay for an > account 19.99 for all your sites you get nice tracking features too. > I'm a bit confused on their pricing.. 19.99/month even for a single site sounds like a good deal to me. However, it seems much higher than that: http://disqus.com/admin/addons/packages/ 299/month for Professional which covers up to 3 domains 999/month for VIP which also covers on 3 domains Am I missing something? From chris at theendrecords.com Wed Aug 31 16:07:45 2011 From: chris at theendrecords.com (Christopher French) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:07:45 -0400 Subject: [joomla] Hosted commenting In-Reply-To: <4E5E9416.7050409@gmail.com> References: <1314760402.54767.YahooMailNeo@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4E5E9416.7050409@gmail.com> Message-ID: <73ED08E7-C135-45C9-BBCA-557552C7A0B8@theendrecords.com> 19.99 gets you special features, like analytic and instant updates and stuff. the higher prices is if you use the SSO features they offer. On Aug 31, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Gary Mort wrote: > On 8/30/2011 11:19 PM, Chris French wrote: >> >> I personally never used intense debate, but I have used disqus on several sites and find it really nice all around if you pay for an account 19.99 for all your sites you get nice tracking features too. >> > > I'm a bit confused on their pricing.. 19.99/month even for a single site sounds like a good deal to me. > > However, it seems much higher than that: > http://disqus.com/admin/addons/packages/ > > 299/month for Professional which covers up to 3 domains > 999/month for VIP which also covers on 3 domains > > Am I missing something? > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla > > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online > http://www.nyphpcon.com > > Show Your Participation in New York PHP > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php