NYCPHP Meetup

[Daniel Kushner]

Hi Edward,

This is a tricky question, and the current economic situation doesn't help.
First and foremost, you get what you pay for - in most cases. Programmers
working at a rate of $20/hour could not be considered professional. Sure
their code will (might) work, but is it optimized? Is it secure? Will it
work under high loads?
I have consulted companies, where 'cheap' programmers where hired to do the
job. After one hour of looking at the code, I found countless security flaws
and no optimization what so ever. When you ask why there is only one
function in the whole application and the answer is: "Well, I only found out
last week that there are functions in PHP", you can fully understand where
the $20/hour comes from.
It's true that we all need to start somewhere, and that's where you'll find
those guys. The fact that companies are hiring them to build major
applications is wrong, but in most cases, they either find this out later on
in life, or their application never gets launched, so the faults are never
found.
What can we do about it? Try to explain this to the hiring company.
Sometimes it work!

Regards,
Daniel Kushner
Vice President
New York PHP
http://nyphp.org/
daniel at nyphp.org


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Edward Potter [mailto:ejp at well.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 12:03 PM
> To: NYPHP Talk
> Subject: [nycphp-talk] NYC Freelance rates
>
>
> Hi,
>
>   I was just wondering what the going rate for freelance (NYC) PHP
> programmers was? I have a client that says she is getting scores of
> resumes where guys are charging less then $20 an hour. I had assumed it
> was about $40 - $50 these days.
>
> thanks
>
> -- ed
>
>
> On Monday, January 20, 2003, at 11:01 AM, Hans Zaunere wrote:
>
> >
> > Good morning,
> >
> > I've made some long deserved mailing list tweaks, that should have
> > improved
> > performance and stability.
> >
> > I also did an audit of user accounts and email addresses.  It seems
> > that
> > there were several registered accounts, but without a related email
> > address.
> > This problem has been corrected, and everyone's account should be
> > inline with
> > the correct email addresses.
> >
> > I urge everyone to login and check that their account info is correct
> > (especially the email addresses), and that they are subscribed to the
> > proper
> > lists (and don't forget the two new lists!).
> >
> > If anything looks off, or you can't login, please don't hesitate to
> > contact
> > me at hans at nyphp.org
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> >
> > =====
> > Hans Zaunere
> > President, New York PHP
> > http://nyphp.org
> > hans at nyphp.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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