NYCPHP Meetup

[Brian Pang]

I largely, if not wholly, agree with Chris, particularly where it
involves "people asking questions without giving any personal attempt at
solving their own problem."

A question or two for a newbie is ok, but it often seems as though the
list is used in lieu of the PHP (or other) Manual.
Often I refer to the manual to answer someone's question, and that is
just wrong.

I think that the front-end list is a bit of a stretch, but at least it's
separate (and I do subscribe to it). There are other lists available for
problems/questions concering apache, mysql, etc, specific problems.

I suppose, for example, apache specific questions could be relegated to
an apache at lists.nyphp.org list, which people who have no apache interest
could not subscribe to.

While I admit that I've asked an off-topic question or two and I don't
have an issue with a call for off-topic help, I think these threads
should go off-list as soon as possible.



> --- Hans Zaunere <hans at nyphp.org> wrote:
> > Perhaps we should be totally democratic about it and have a vote?
> 
> Although I am in favor of having a separate list, I can give you a
reason why
> some people do not favor this type of idea (it has come up a lot on
php.net
> mailing list discussions). The fear is that all of the "smart" people will
> migrate to the advanced/on-topic/whatever list that is being proposed,
and the
> other list's usefulness will deteriorate, and it will die.
> 
> If we do create an on-topic list, I can pretty much guarantee that I will
> subscribe to it and drop this one. My time is valuable to me, and
while I like
> to contribute back to the PHP community by answering questions
whenever I have
> the time, it is not worth it for me to wade through off-topic
discussions and
> people asking questions without giving any personal attempt at solving
their
> own problem.
> 
> So, I would see the choices as:
> 
> 1. Enforce that this list remain on-topic.
> 2. Create an on-topic list.
> 
> Given these choices, either is fine for me, because I will choose to be
> subscribed to the on-topic list in either case. It makes no difference
to me if
> others have a list where they can chat casually (and I have nothing
against the
> idea at all).
>