well here are the specs of my machine P4 1.4ghz 128mb RDRam i usually run X windows, Zend, Firefox, X-Chat, and some other apps. I think it's a tad heavy on the ram side, however it's a java app :D Did i mention i couldnt get windows 2000 to run on this machine LOL -- Joseph Crawford Jr. Codebowl Solutions codebowl at gmail.com