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[Rolan Yang]

Jon Baer wrote:

> for a few days ive been toying around with the PHP-GTK based IDE
> called "Tulip" ... i hacked in some small annoying patches/fixes but
> nothing serious yet (GUI-wise) ... here is a URL if you aren't
> familiar ...
>
> http://tulip.solis.coop.br/
>
> there are a few reasons why i like it ...
>
> a) its php based
> b) its pretty new/good start
> c) cross platform (w/ speed)
> d) gives a great dive/example into OO (extending Gtk objects)
>
Wow, Tulip is hot. Is there any alternative/more mature package 
available now that
comes close to this? I like how the SQL testing/management is all 
integrated into the IDE.

~Rolan

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> >http://blogs.msdn.com/David_Gristwood/archive/2004/06/24/164849.aspx
> >
> >I know, let's keep the Microsoft bashing banter to a minimum... he
does=20
> >make some excellent points, learned from working on some of the most=20
> >complex code ever created.
>
>
> I disagree wholeheartedly (and it has nothing to do with=20
> bashing). I don't see a single excellent point, and I see a=20

Fair enough.

> ton of misguided concepts. He's either a dreamer, delusional,=20
> or just a=20
> glass-half-empty-means-someone's-not-thirsty-anymore optimist=20
> with little real evidence supporting his "credentials".

I thought 4,5,9 and 12 were intersting.  And point 14 is what MS is all
about, and a major factor in their success... consistent look and feel
and all that stuff.

> Name one instance where M$ released "great software on time"=20
> or for that matter even "software on time".  Not once I can determine.

True, there is some marketing hype in there, but considering the scale
and complexity of having to release Windows, there is some merit in
their song and dance.

H