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[Nestor]

I just finished taking a class on ASP.NET and I was impress.
I was an ASP programmer back in 2000 using Visual Studio.
I like writing code using 'vi' and I am all for PHP programming
but ASP.NET  is impressive.  I am playing a bit with a Creator and JSF.
Sun's Creator is trying to do similar drag and drop that ASP.NET offers.
Althought my current job is as a C/Unix programmer I missed the PHP/WEB world.

Nestor :-)

On 11/27/05, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/26/05, Susan Shemin <susan_shemin at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Hey, guys, nice to hear your responses.  However, there's always 2 sides to
> > an argument, and I do not agree with you.  Somehow men think that only hard
> > work is how things get done.  With women, they know it's finesse that works.
> >  And I believe Visual Studio has finesse and class (sorry for the pun).
>
> As a long-term resident of Seattle in the last decade, I remember
> delivering several projects on the initial platform (then called
> Visual InterDev 1.0 IIRC). My experiences on that platform were, that
> as long as you stuck to commonly-needed functionality and standard
> widgets, you were good to go. The second you deviate from the rest of
> the herd, unfortunately, meant you would have to forego the comfy
> controlled confines of the graphical environment and dig manually
> through thousands and thousands of poorly formatted, generated code.
>
> In short, it was excellent if you were developing the same exact appls
> that everyone else was needing to develop. If you needed something
> unique or uncommon you were at a great disadvantage, as the
> development environment was not friendly to the do-it-yourself
> approach.
>
> My wife is the smartest person that I know, and she once explained the
> difference of the environments (and their impact on me personally)
> most succinctly:
>
> "You know, back when you were on Microsoft stuff you spent the entire
> day swearing at your computer. Now that you are back to open source
> you spend the entire day swearing at yourself."
>
> I have never heard a more profound observation of my work habits than
> that one sentence, and it couldn't have been more correct.
>
> With that in mind I suppose it is irrelevant what your gender is, but
> more important who/what you want to be the cause of your
> limitations/frustration at the end of the day. And I'd rather be mad
> at myself for not figuring something out the first time, than be
> trapped in an environment that I cannot fix.
>
> -- Mitch
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