NYCPHP Meetup

[edward potter]

Some good points, I think it would be cool to glue all these
applications into what could be a real project. A web site based on
the technologies that drives a Wiki that provides online disaster
relief updates from volunteers in the field.  They need databases,
communications needs, online revenue generating models, communications
links, etc.  You need to scan RSS feeds, how to write scripts that can
chat with a satellite, real time api-google mapping, custom blogs,
etc.

All the programming languages you are teaching here can be
Incorporated into something like that.

:-)  ed



On 12/11/06, Kenneth Downs <ken at secdat.com> wrote:
>
>  Christopher R. Merlo wrote:
> Hello friends.  My apologies for the cross-posting, but I'm sending the same
> request to all groups.
>
>
>  We are developing two new web programming courses at NCC, and we need some
> statements from people in management and leadership positions in IT to
> support the need for these courses, which will teach HTML, JavaScript, CSS,
> PHP, JSP, and RDBMS interaction with MySQL.  If you feel you can help,
> please e-mail me, and I'll send you the proposed course outlines.
>
>  Something that I notice is often missing in whole or in part is an
> appreciation of architecture-level concerns.  In other words, people are
> often taught how to code, but not *what* to code or *where*.  The critical
> issues of where to place code between the tiers, and how to make such
> judgements, are often lacking.
>
>  Another factor that often seems to be missing, strange as it seems, is the
> simple idea that all programs serve human goals.  In other words, some
> person somewhere is committing time and money to a system, and almost always
> it is for the purpose of gain.  While a good programmer will take pride in
> the quality of his craftsmanship, it often seems to be missing to take pride
> in serving the needs of the non-programmer who is depending on you.  While
> this may seem a "soft" issue compared to the nuts-and-bolts of PHP or SQL,
> it separates a useful employee from a useless one.
>
>  With those two ideas in mind, a personal beef of mine is the lack of
> understanding of what a database is and what it can do, so I'm always in
> favor of more emphasis in that area.
>
>  Finally, and this may seem strangest of all, the three most productive
> employees I've ever had knew nothing of our particular technology when I
> hired them.  In each case I hired and attitude and an aptitude and then
> showed them the language we were using and put them to work.  None of them
> was uneducated, I'm not suggesting no education was needed, but all of them
> were well grounded in general principles.  It seems the course outline
> suggested above would be a wonderful cornerstone for teaching a lot of very
> basic CS concepts, which might then produce some general-thinking employment
> candidates.
>
>
>
>  Thanks in advance,
>  -c
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