NYCPHP Meetup

[Mark Withington]

For what it's worth: I use DynDNS, a Linksys BEFVP41 router (ipSec) and the
SSH Sentinel client to "talk back" to my office whilst on the road.  If the
stars align and the creek don't rise (and the ISP in between doesn't
f$#k-it-up) things work just great...e.g. once in a blue freaking moon.

This definitely isn't Kansas Toto.

If anyone is interested in hearing more, contact me off-list and I'll tell
you the bloody details while crying in my beer.

Cheers,

Mark  

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Mark L. Withington
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org 
> [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On Behalf Of Cliff Hirsch
> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 12:06 PM
> To: 'NYPHP Talk'
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Subversion, Bugzilla hosting
> 
> 
> Well, I settled on cvsdude for Subversion, Bugzilla and Trac. 
> 
> And I'm giving a XEN-based VPS provider a try -- will report 
> back my experience.
> 
> On another note, wasted a few bucks and a few hours trying 
> Dynamic DNS to just use my office dev. server, which is 
> behind a Firewall and NAT. Fugetaboutit... Talk about a pain. 
> And then there's all the fine print about "if your service 
> provider blocks port 80..." Waste of time....
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Greg Rundlett greg.rundlett-at-gmail.com |nyphp dev/internal 
> group use| 
> wrote:
> 
> >On 3/10/06, Cliff Hirsch <cliff at pinestream.com> wrote:
> >Another option I'm honing in on is VPS -- looks pretty reasonable and
> >flexible.
> >
> >Caution.  I know other people have obviously had positive experiences
> >with VPS and/or 'root servers' from 1&1 or other companies.  
> I did not.
> >
> >I found it to be one of the most dissatisfying experiences of my
> >consulting career.  I wasted 10x the amount of time I would 
> have spent 
> >just doing the sysadmin work myself.  The installation and 
> setup of my 
> >accounts were buggy.  The software (cPanel or Plesk) were 
> useless. That
> 
> >software is not nearly as useful as Webmin.  More than anything,
> >managing the server through the terrible 'control panel' was 
> the really
> 
> >bad part.  And there was incongruous language in their 
> advertising and
> >TOS that ended up biting me too.
> >  
> >
> Now that someone has said this, I will agree.
> 
> I still use Westhost Virtual Server accounts for a few 
> projects, and I 
> *think* I appreciate that I don't have as many sysadmin/security 
> concerns as I have with other dedicated servers. However, I find the 
> control panel (which is actually a PHP/DHTML application) 
> horribly slow 
> and an unwelcomed intermediary between me and the system. 
> Luckily I can 
> ssh in for *most* things when I want to.
> 
> If you want to re-install a base system, though, it is pretty easy to 
> reset the virtual server and start fresh. Not sure how often I could 
> accomplish that with the dedicated servers without being ready to pay 
> for some hands-on support or make a site visit.
> 
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