[nycphp-talk] Cake v. Symfony
Peter Sawczynec
ps at pswebcode.com
Thu Sep 7 21:48:38 EDT 2006
Whether one examines fairly generic concepts like Joomla, phpNuke,
dotProject or TYPO3. Or one looks at the generic frameworks.
Or one looks at the sourceforge.net collection of tools and projects. It
might be proper to observe that there is
quite sufficient baseline "generic" PHP product out there.
And that these worldwide, many years long collective collaborations were
likely originally engendered predominantly to propel
PHP development from 0 - 60, causing PHP to rapidly appear as a competitive,
diverse, solutions-oriented code framework when
compared to JAVA and ASP.
Maybe these PHP projects have achieved what was originally needed to
basically propel PHP to an IT takes note status.
Now it may be time for new talents to focus on the next evolutionary
competitive step and that would be to tie together, maximize, enhance and
compound all these "generic" projects and spin them into very rich, full
package commercial enterprise-wide solutions with a bit more out of the box
readiness to meet the expectations of known market segments that need and
buy full scale (verily even expensive and satisfyingly profitable) web
application solutions.
Might there not be a business case that shows the there is sufficient
competitive cause now -- that PHP developers need -- more access to free or
low-cost well done projects that really answer contemporary commercial
business needs.
No collective of developers needs to hold back anymore and think: "Well, if
we want to create a successful project that is going to get used a lot, we
need to make this non-specific grey box set of features and functions for a
hypothetical vast generic market of scientifically precise programmers to
use." To the contrary, the collective of developers should now be thinking:
"What are some of the present day ripe business categories that have
exploded onto the internet and PHP developers could use targeted, base code
projects that meet the needs of an ever expanding, feature hungry mass of
potential PHP customers who are right now paying way too much to other
programmer/code languages."
New PHP projects really need to cohesively, convincingly and accurately do
modern expected things that most customers are now desiring as a matter of
course, such as: streaming media, perform bulk emails, collect and create
RSS, encrypt cookies/session, registration/login/preferences, meeting
calendar, customer inquiries center, FAQ, online chat/IM, help desk/trouble
ticket, mapping, weather, and even interface with bar codes.
PHP could use to take and grow market share in all the following business
segments:
Chamber of Commerce
Convention Center
Visitor's Bureau
Supermarkets
Television Station
Automobile Dealership
Yacht Dealership
Cruise Line
Venture Capital Firm
Museum
Resort / Resort Chain
Hotel / Hotel Chain
Movie Theatre Chain
Performing Arts Center
Dance Troupe
Theatre Ensemble
Circus
National Park
Day School Site
Grade School / High School Site
Real Estate Agency
Real Estate Residential Developer
Real Estate Commercial Developer
Accounting Firm
Law Firm
Politician
Political Group
Fundraiser
Trucking Firm
Tanker Firm
Police Department
Fire Department
Art Gallery Chain
Even bigger and more ambitious:
News Site with multimedia
Weather Service
Traffic Site
Media Download Site
Software Download Site
Photo Sharing Site
Train Scheduler
Web Cam Viewer Site
Expedition Chronicler
Digital Movie Download Site
If I am off base and you know a full featured opensource project that fills
the gap in the above business segments, just list them and everyone will be
helped by what might otherwise be interpreted as shameless PHP project
publicity.
Warmest regards,
Peter Sawczynec,
Technology Director
PSWebcode
_Design & Interface
_Ecommerce
_Database Management
ps at pswebcode.com
646.316.3678
www.pswebcode.com
-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org] On
Behalf Of Paul M Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 6:36 PM
To: NYPHP Talk
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Cake v. Symfony
On Sep 7, 2006, at 4:43 PM, Ajai Khattri wrote:
> Having spent ages looking at all these several months ago, to save
> bandwidth, I have a list:
>
> Symfony
> CakePHP
> Seagull (seagullproject.org)
> Prado
> SolarPHP
> Cerebral Cortex (crtx.org)
> Savant (phpsavant.com)
Much as I appreciate the plug, Savant is more a template/presentation-
logic system than a framework.
And IIRC, Cortex is officially defunct; Davey gave it up in favor of
Zend Framework. Via Google Cache:
<http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:_vh2DrrKkZIJ:pixelated-
dreams.com/archives/206-All-for-naught....html+pixelated+dreams
+cerebral+cortex>
-- pmj
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