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[Kristina Anderson]

Industry certifications are all well and good but state-certified 
professional licenses would be a huge step forward.  

Just think how cool it would be to have a "NYS Licensed Code Jockey" 
certificate in a huge frame on your office wall :)

Not to mention the economic & lobbying power that state professional 
organizations have.

> This is quite a strong summation.
> 
> Yet, fortunately, there is some types of accreditation for some
> programming and related categories. There is Microsoft MSCE, Cisco
> Certified, general network certifications, Oracle cert, Red Hat cert,
> security cert, Zend PHP cert, even a Flash cert. 
> 
> So, maybe if firms and sites (PHP.net and all such related sites)
> started advocating cert programs as one of, if not the first serious
> step, toward an evolving measurable genuine industry competency and
> competitiveness that would help programmers more effectively work
> towards and achieve known knowledge levels that might have nationally
> known pay scales.
> 
> Then a programmer could plan a career and salary objectives a little
> more logically. And businesses could budget and allocate programmer
> workforce more exactly.
> 
> Somewhere, something is all good and better than the existing free for
> all. 
> 
> Warmest regards, 
>  
> Peter Sawczynec 
> Technology Dir.
> Sun-code Interactive
> Sun-code.com 
> 646.316.3678 
> ps at sun-code.com
>    
>   
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Urb LeJeune
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:28 AM
> To: NYPHP Talk
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Re: OT: webmaster test
> 
> 
> >>  By definition, programming and website design is not a
> >>profession.
> >
> >Really? What specifically is that definition?
> 
> profession: "An occupation, such as law, medicine, or engineering, 
> that requires considerable training
> and specialized study"
> 
> Houghton Mifflin Dictionary.
> 
> Even an engineer must have a professional engineering (PE) 
> designation to perform certain types of design.
> I don't have a problem with a self taught programmers, I've known 
> some great ones, however, a field having
> a large number of practitioners without formal training is a trade 
> not a profession. A profession is also
> self-regulated.
> 
> It's another thread but, should there be certification available for 
> programmers and web designers? If we
> ever want to be considered a profession, that's the first step. I was 
> in the stock brokerage business when
> the designation Chartered Financial Analyst (CFA) first came into 
> being. It was extraordinarily difficult
> and it took almost two years after the announcement before the first 
> designation were awarded. It required
> two 8 hour day testing sessions. It made a huge difference in the 
> industry and these days you will not get
> a senior level job in a research department without a CFA. Same thing 
> happened with Chartered Financial
> Planner (CFP).
> 
> I'm unsure of the procedure, but how/when does one change the subject 
> when we have drifted into a new
> area?
> 
> 
> Urb
> 
> Dr. Urban A. LeJeune, President
> E-Government.com
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> 
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