[nycphp-talk] Re: OT: webmaster test
Ben Sgro
ben at projectskyline.com
Wed Apr 16 21:49:30 EDT 2008
Good call,
I love to read. Read all the time. Just read your email and I'm going to
read a book.
- Ben
Christopher R. Merlo wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 5:02 PM, David Krings <ramons at gmx.net
> <mailto:ramons at gmx.net>> wrote:
>
> A university is supposed to train interested candidates in a field
> of choice with the goal to make them subject matter experts in
> that field.
>
>
> That's actually not true, and your apparent belief in this untruth is
> probably what has led to your seemingly very strongly felt distaste
> for university education.
>
> The purpose of a college or university is to provide the student with
> an education, so that the student may go on to contribute back to
> society. An education involves more than just learning a trade, or a
> skill. Moreover, most experts in any field are usually well-versed in
> some other field as well; this is what allows educated people to do
> things like draw analogies, or relate to non-technical people.
> Physicists must read the classics in English literature so that
> non-physicists will talk to them at dinner parties; this helps with
> things like professional networking. (Everyone who got your job
> because you know the right non-IT person, raise your hands. David,
> look at all those hands!) No one expects a physicist to be able to
> prattle on about Huck Finn like a lit professor; but the physicist
> shouldn't just stare open-mouthed, either. "Yes, Mark Twain was an
> important figure in American Literature" will go a long, long way in
> making friends and influencing people. And an English major should
> take a lab science course for the exact same reason; in case he finds
> himself at a dinner party populated mostly by physicists, knowing at
> least that there's an inverse relationship between distance and
> gravitational pull, even if the English major doesn't remember or
> understand that it's an exponential relationship, can keep him in the
> conversation long enough to not be embarrassed.
>
> When my programming students complain (and they always do) about how
> much of their grade is based on writing, I tell them two things.
> First, when I worked in industry as a programmer, the pointy-haired
> bosses kept coming to me for explanations, and eventually asked me to
> join large inter-department teams to work on big special projects with
> all the suits, and eventually would have asked me to lead those kinds
> of special projects had I stayed with that company any longer; and the
> reason they kept tapping me, over my colleagues, was that I was an
> effective communicator, and I was able to translate plans to code, and
> feature requests to timetables, but also code to English, and bug
> hunts to revised timetables; and I didn't scare the suits away when I
> talked to them. And I owe that to my liberal-arts undergrad
> experience, taking a BA in CS, with a creative writing course and a
> public speaking course and all the trimmings. I even made use of
> something I learned in a phys ed course, when I was tutoring a
> seventh-grader in math last school year. He really wanted to shoot
> baskets more than do math problems, and so I gave him five minutes if
> he got a few questions right. Of course he got those questions right,
> and off we went to shoot baskets. But he had a great deal of trouble
> passing me the basketball, and I taught him the bounce pass, the way I
> learned it as a college junior. His mom kept hiring me back to tutor
> him, because he really liked me after that (and the grades slowly went
> up).
>
> The other thing I tell my students is that out there in the real
> world, where all you guys are, people judge other people's
> intelligence, fairly or not, according to how effectively they
> communicate, and that the only two things that make you a better
> writer are 1) writing a lot, and 2) reading a lot.
>
> So, anyway, I felt compelled to write, because I'm afraid that people
> trying to choose whether to get a college education or not might be
> misled into thinking it's something it's not. The service we provide
> is not something you can get anywhere else, and for lots of people,
> it's the difference between promotions or not.
> $0.02,
> -c
>
>
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