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[Felix Shnir]

Jeez, whats up with all the Java hating today?  First, LUG, now PHP list.
This article is a useless rant and indeed a waste of bandwidth, but the
constant Java sux in this and PHP rules in that conversation is a lot more
annoying simply because it is an irrelevant flame war.

This is a PHP list, lets stick to it.

Felix.


On Jan 2, 2008 3:44 PM, David Krings <ramons at gmx.net> wrote:

> I found this article also a waste of bandwidth. What is even more sad than
> the
> contents (or the lack thereof) is that the writer couldn't answer the
> question
> he put out. I started learning Java and got reminded at my dreadful
> experiences with C. Java inherited all the crappy, annoying stuff from C
> and
> managed to make it even more complicated. PHP is much easier to use and
> understand. There is often a function for pretty much anything and adding
> a
> library is as easy as removing a semicolon or dropping a file where all
> the
> others are and adding a line to the ini file.
> I started programming on the C64 with BASIC, then learned Logo, then did a
> bit
> assembler on the 64. Later I did Pascal on the Apple IIe (in high school),
> then did MS-BASIC, then looked at the early stages of Delphi, and did ANSI
> C
> as well as Assembler on the 8088 at the university. Later I was forced to
> find
> my way through ObjectPAL after the only developer who knew it quit, then
> tried
> my luck with VB6 and VB.NET, and took a stab at Java. During all these
> times I
> loathed programming with every fiber of my being. It was always dumb,
> cumbersome, complicated, difficult to understand, or did not have enough
> features or didn't give access to other resources. I absolutely hate
> programming.
> Then came a course on E-business during my MS degree and I decided to
> program
> a web app as project. I found PHP and since then I am in constant awe as
> how
> easy and powerful application development can be. PHP is easy, it offers a
> lot, it just works, and it doesn't drive one nuts with this compiling and
> linking crap like C, doesn't require to write 50 lines of code first to
> get
> "Hello World" on screen as it is with Java, and doesn't cost hundreds of
> bucks
> like VS. Back then I was impressed by Delphi, but today I think the GUIs
> of
> Delphi apps suck and Delphi is becoming irrelevant quickly. Oh, and none
> can
> really be used easily for web development - unlike PHP.
>
> The kids that pick PHP aren't just cool, they are above all damn smart.
> Java
> is the language of choice for masochists.
>
> David
>
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