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[Peter Sawczynec]

This is just my exceptionally small irreverent dos centavos on this
topic. 

For about two years now, it seems one has been pretty much able to
develop almost anything desired using virtually any CSS and any
JavaScript (and using big heavy image files to boot) in 1000+ pixel wide
designs and its all good. 

And at this time, if one were to find that one needs to spend too much
hard time reviewing browser compatibility issues, then it is almost
axiomatic that the code itself is not sufficiently or democratically
"cross browser and platform independent" enough in the first place.
Essentially: a) don't use any IE specific code; b) don't use any code
that does not run in IE; and c) especially important, don't use any code
that don’t run in IE Mac. Just not ever. Do something else. Use some
Flash gadget. If you don’t do a, b or c; all the code vets itself and
will be browser independent and automagically run on old browsers too
boot going way back. 

Lastly, try to use <doctype> XHTML "Transitional" to be easy on yourself
and all your friends. You'd be surprised how many "browser"
compatibility issues are actually and simply <doctype> issues. "Strict"
breaks a lot of CSS and indirectly the JavaScript code.  And that
heartache is simply not necessary. 

Then browser compatibility issues seem to just vanish.  

Warmest regards, 
 
Peter Sawczynec 
Technology Dir.
blūstudio 
941.893.0396
ps at blu-studio.com 
www.blu-studio.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
On Behalf Of Michele Waldman
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 8:25 PM
To: 'NYPHP Talk'
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Periodic Browsercam.com group availability

Don't work you aren't raining on my parade.  It's more like a trail of
tears
for me.  (If you don't know what a trail of tears is then you can Yahoo!
It.)

I've had problems with running virtual machines on my computer.  The
last
time I tried it failed on me and I didn't have more time to look into
it.

Using this website saves me from having a ton of more software loaded on
my
one overloaded ancient pc.

I don't need it extensively so it's a good solution for me.  If I was
doing
more heavy css testing I might have to consider something else, but it
fits
my needs of periodic testing.  If you have a group subscription then the
price is nominal.

Plus, I don't test one at a time.  I select many browsers at once and in
renders them all about 15 minutes later, while I'm doing something else.

If there's a specific problem, then I can put my attention to it.

Michele
> -----Original Message-----
> From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org
[mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
> On Behalf Of David Krings
> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 8:11 PM
> To: NYPHP Talk
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Periodic Browsercam.com group availability
> 
> Michele Waldman wrote:
> > on with the development.  How many times have you thought, "I wonder
> > what it looks like in IE6?"  So, join a group now.
> 
> I don't want to rain on your parade, but isn't that something a VM and
the
> IE
> package from Tredosoft can do? Does browsercam do something that the
> regular
> IE instances can't do? When I test browser based apps at work I have
one
> Windows VM and a Linux VM with all the popular and not so popular
browsers
> including IE from version 3.0 up. That covers all rendering engines
and
> about
> all OS (after all Mac OS X is just a window manager on top of BSD, but
I
> also
> got a Mac for testing). I recently transferred those VMs from
Workstation
> to
> Server 2.0 so that I can run it one a different box. And with the free
> TechNet
> accounts that Microsoft gives out I could even run the IEs natively on
yet
> another set of VMs.
> 
> David
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