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[Jake McGraw]

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Eddie Drapkin <oorza2k5 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Jake McGraw <jmcgraw1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Matt Juszczak <matt at atopia.net> wrote:
>>>> InnoDB for everything but tables that require fulltext search, which
>>>> is not yet supported on InnoDB.
>>>
>>> Can always use something like lucene for this.
>>
>> Yea, but then you've got to keep a Tomcat instance up and know Java or
>> use a PHP implementation which can be slow. MySQL Fulltext works
>> really well in most instances.
>>
>
> That's just a little bit inaccurate.  While it certainly helps to know
> Java, running a Solr instance requires only the ability to start a
> java process and read some documentation.  The entire thing is
> communicated to / from a REST API and it's configured with (over|very
> well) documented XML files.  There's no knowledge of Java or lucene or
> tokenizing or anything other than how to read documentation required.
> It will almost always work out better than MySQL FULLTEXT because Solr
> has some niceties built into it, like search suggestions, spelling
> corrections, stemming, etc.  There's a lot of other cool stuff built
> into it now, like document importing (I think they support PDF, MS
> Word, OO.o formats, etc. but I'm not too sure as I don't use that
> feature myself), multi-core searching, there's a bundled tool for
> indexing out of SQL and a lot more I'm sure that I'm forgetting. You
> can go from "no search" to "well implemented, professional feeling
> search" in two or three days, with no prior experience in Java or
> advanced text searching.

This best sums up my feelings:

http://jakemcgraw.com/imgs/nyphp-solr.jpg

It wasn't to say that deploying Lucene is some insurmountable task,
just that, if MySQL fulltext works for your use case then why go
through the pain of supporting another application stack.

- jake
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